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Russian women are traditional women....... say WHAT? are you all ignorant??

https://www.rt.com/business/334948-russi...s-leaders/

Russia has 45% of senior management positions held by females.

Take that.
04-12-2018 10:57 AM
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Russia is probably the worst place on Earth to look for traditional women. It's all a fuckin lie. Putin's women will drink your blood with a straw.
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(04-12-2018 11:11 AM)gowest Wrote:  Russia is probably the worst place on Earth to look for traditional women.

Talk about a vast overstatement.

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Aren't you the same guy who was talking about how refugees from Africa and the Middle East would be good for Poland on another thread? You have no credibility here. You just make random statements without offering any proof and start flame wars. Enjoy your time here -- before the ban.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-67303...pid1764613
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(04-12-2018 10:57 AM)Bangnutter Wrote:  Russian women are traditional women....... say WHAT? are you all ignorant??

https://www.rt.com/business/334948-russi...s-leaders/

Russia has 45% of senior management positions held by females.

Take that.

Being a business leader does not preclude being a traditional woman. The same article states that the "Baltic states show similar stats." I have not been to Russia, but I have been to the Baltics. The women in the Baltics are quite traditional, especially when compared to the West.

Alcoholism among Russian men is among the highest in the world. Perhaps this creates a void, and an opportunity, that the women fill.
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Most Russian women I met....first thing they ask is how much money I make.

Secondly, most that I met when I was living in Russia said that they don't give two fucks about marriage or babies.
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Tail Gunner, if you have not been to Russia, better listen and not talk.
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(04-12-2018 12:44 PM)gowest Wrote:  Tail Gunner, if you have not been to Russia, better listen and not talk.

Saying "Russia is probably the worst place on Earth to look for traditional women" is just plain nonsensical. I could easily list several dozen countries where the women are less traditional. I have met a number of Russian women in the U.S. While they have their issues, they are typically far more traditional than the average American women. I have also met Russian women in the Baltics. Yes, Russian women can be cold, ruthless, and mercenary (no one is arguing that point), but that does not make them less traditional than the feminists of the West.

Words have meaning. If you are going to make ridiculous overstatements (without any facts or evidence, no less), then you are just a troll -- and you provide no value to the forum.
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Dear, Tail Gunner,

I comment on threads I know the subject pretty well. I'm a high baller and visit only capitals and very big cities, so I cannot comment on Russian villages. Maybe some Russian women there are traditional.

1. I have been to the country at least 5 times and overall spent 1 year.
2. I have dated local women in Russia and I'm really sick of their gold-digger mentality.
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2. I have dated local women in Russia and I'm really sick of their gold-digger mentality.
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(04-12-2018 02:07 PM)gowest Wrote:  Maybe some Russian women there are traditional.

Yes, such as 78% of them.

Quote:According to another opinion poll, 78 percent of both men and women believe a woman’s place is in the home. It’s worth noting here, however, that in a traditional Russian household, it is the woman who makes all decisions regarding finances and domestic issues (“The man is the head, but the woman is the neck” as the popular Russian saying goes).

More importantly, Russian women often visibly grimace at the word “feminism,” which is filled with negative connotations, such as sloppiness, laziness, aggression, and vulgarity. “These feminists, they act like men,” my friend Sveta always says with derision, echoing the thoughts of many other Russian women, “Why would I want to act like a man? I’m proud of being a woman.”

https://www.rbth.com/opinion/2014/03/08/...34907.html
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(04-12-2018 02:07 PM)gowest Wrote:  I comment on threads I know the subject pretty well. I'm a high baller and visit only capitals and very big cities, so I cannot comment on Russian villages. Maybe some Russian women there are traditional.

I've almost always been to small cities and villages, in various countries. As compared from spending most of my life in a town in Britain, the women there are much more feminine and not too Westernised, but there is an obvious difference between women aged about 20 and those about 40. I know one girl from a big city well (Serbia) and although she hasn't brimmed herself with left-wing views she is living much the same directionless hedonistic lifestyle as any girl in London. She's right on the road to panicking out some random low rent guy's child at 37 and won't listen to anything I say that might change that. Meanwhile her friend's mother who is about 50 is asking if I can hook her up with AManLikePutin, if I can find him.

Last year I was in Dhaka, Bangladesh, the capital of one of the most traditional countries in the world. The girls in the country's tiny middle class are uber-feminine, far beyond what you will read on SEA girls. They are like giggling clouds of femininity, playfully looking under every rock to find if there prince is under there. It's still a country where a guy might ask a girl to marry him after meeting for an hour. But when you're not around they are binge watching Desposito and Shape of You before logging on to FapTube.net to see how big dicks can get. In Serbian villages they're still listening to Roki Vulovic and Sanja Ilic i Balkanika.
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There seems to be a lot of heated thoughts about Russia, and even with the great disparity in opinion and observations, I have a difficult time outright disagreeing with much that has been said, as my own personal anecdote is still quite limited compared to many of the other experiences others have shared.

Just an abstract, I sense that I might be a little bit older than many of the gents who frequent this forum these days, and must disclose that this has without a doubt been highly influential towards my own experience, goals, and expectations going into these situations.

Like many who seem to begin achieving a semblance of career success that allows a lifestyle where they can earn a location independent living, I began to look elsewhere to further grow my lifelong love of womanising, as it's just my preferred drug of choice, I suppose. While paying my dues in my mid 20's, I was still relatively inexperienced and lacking the maturity to keep the women I wanted to keep, which drove my attention elsewhere in hopes that perhaps it's everyone else who's insane rather than myself.

I also want to stress that for myself, it's not all about sex or the high of 'getting' the women. That change is an ethic that has either evolved gradually, or is perhaps just something many of us are biologically inclined to experience as we get into our mid 30's and beyond. So before thinking of going anywhere, it was always very important for me to make the trip about something else besides the girls. Even if I was lying to myself at the end of the day (probably most of the time), I truly was always convinced that my main reason for hopping on that plane to go wherever I was going was about something more. Usually, it was tied to my interest in history, and a concept of 'sacred geography'. Sacred in the sense of what any particular piece of land means to not only the inhabitants, but also myself, usually through the geopolitics and wars fought between my home nation and my target host.

Therefore, I felt obliged to really want to spend time in Vietnam and Japan, first. Not long; but just long enough to maybe make friends, see some sights, and just get a new perspective on life as I would imagine all the dead yankees who came before me that probably had thoughts of geographical romanticism not too unlike myself.

It was also a bit of a confidence thing, too. Although I believed I had the looks, education, wealth in knowledge and resources, etc. to be a real "catch", my confidence wasn't where it needed to be after some demoralising defeats in the few years before on the homefront. It just made too much sense to take my interest elsewhere.

Since then, i've been to Asia multiple times, and i've grown quite a liking to it, and a respect for the culture and people there. I think I should've been less greedy and selfish about how I viewed fraternizing with the women in hindsight, but I was still conscious enough to not be one of those yanks who might be a reason why another, future fellow Western national might get themselves beat up or similarly victimised one day if I was to do something unkind enough to leave any locals feeling ill will towards my people, so I don't really have any regrets there.

I did meet some great people. I did the womanising thing as well. I spent time studying the history, and at this point, I certainly feel like I understand the history and every day geopolitics of the region better than the locals, although, as a typical (aka, worthless) native English speaker, I couldn't ever get anywhere with that. I was fully reliant on the women I met pipelining over the course of months. One thing I miss about those women were their patience. They will wait years for you if you do it right. Can't say the same for anywhere else.

Now, fast forward to 2016, and US election having begun to get very heated to the point of it ripping apart families and relationships just over some innocuous opinion on the now President Trump. Although genetically, I probably would not ever be allowed entry into any of the White prison gangs, I started to become quite angry about the way Whites had been continuously attacked in the media, and even in public, the saboteurs were becoming bolder than ever, or so it seemed.

When one of the women I was seeing from Hanoi, who I once legit would've stayed with out of my sheer attraction to her, became very snide and mocking of my concern about the anti-White politics occurring on the homefront, it was at this moment where I lost most of my attraction for her. I realised that there was something off, and that this extended to most all of the Asian women I was seeing. I knew many of these things already based upon my research, and it shouldn't have really surprised or angered me like it did. However, the truth is that it made me markedly more racist than i've been in my life, and made me inclined to turn my back on the Far East/SE Asia in order to explore the lands inhabited by indigenous Whites.

Given my interest in history and seeing the lands that were once or are considered "enemies" to my home nation, I saw Russia as the next obvious destination. The timing was actually quite perfect. I gave myself 10 months of prep for history lessons, cultural lessons, and just other necessary research to ensure I didn't end up dead or anything. (I failed pretty hard with the language, of course), as I become dependent on the English speaking ability of a woman I had gotten to know from a city called Rostov who was the right age (27), and seemed attracted to the kind of aspects of my personality that no other women really seemed to care about. I still believe she's probably an unusual Russian girl, because most of my prior experiences with Russian women were a bit unpleasant and came with a serious learning curve.

Since i'm not particularly a trusting person, and wanted to establish as much an ability to navigate the country on my own without becoming dependent on anybody, it was about 6 months between the time we first chatted and the day I arrived to see her. Most European women would find this unacceptable (I think), and it requires a bit of patience and vetting to pull it off. But everytime I made them earn it, it paid off in the sense that I got the girl, didn't get ripped off, and had an awesome time while I was there. This case was no different.

However, despite her being seemingly perfect in so many ways, it fell apart shortly after I arrived back home and reflected upon the situation and my desire to return to see her again.

I think it came down to some serious issues of compatibility between or cultures. She hated my music. She hated my sense of humour. I had to learn that you can't really joke on these people; thankfully, I didn't get beat up or anything for doing anything offensive, but it did make me realise that Americans can be some insensitive jerks if we're not careful to consider how our words and actions might make our hosts feel. Still, I felt she took herself way too seriously, and that drove a wedge between us as well.

Furthermore, I found her to just be....Cold. I still don't get it. Cold? I have this beautiful woman who is probably better than what I can ever get here at home, and i'm complaining because she's not a drama queen? But that's how I felt. For the first time in over a decade, I missed my old Spanish flames, and the life of living a soap opera. This ended 2 months ago, and i'm still unsure about how to reflect on it, or if I should give Russia another serious chance. Since my visa is good for 3 years, I think I will return to do the Trans-Siberian trip, but i'm very unsure as to how badly I want to pursue another Russian woman.

They're super smart, sexy, they never got weirdly jealous or anything, and are probably as good as I could ever get. But I really missed that warmth in character. Not to sound like a complete wuss, but I was thinking long term here. We both were. But she never made me feel like I was person with a character more complex and insightful than her cat, despite her saying on multiple occasions about being most attracted to intelligence.

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and never pretended to be. But I definitely felt that she was holding me to a pretty unachievable standard. I never tried to change her. But she wanted me to be EXACTLY the way she wanted me to me. That meaning, controlling nearly every possible aspect of my character, which, I just could never accept.

But I would never judge a man harshly for accepting such terms. I think it's still quite rewarding for the right man. I suppose it just wasn't for me.

Still, I really got along well with the dudes, and I could totally hang out with guys like that, and the people were absolutely awesome and kind to me, even being American. I think my failure with this woman (if we can even say it's a failure; I did get all the things men want from a great looking woman with the largest, perky breasts i've ever seen in my life) was largely my fault, and a consequence of just my "character", which she ensured to take a slight at, which was a dagger that angered me and left me feeling a bit asshurt for a couple days afterwards to the point where I called her a cunt who was on the fast track to becoming a spinster with a cat. That seemed to anger her, but I don't regret it one bit, as I think it was a fair observation.

I doubt we'll communicate much again. I've only sparsely wished her well since, as i'm just not a very vindictive person, and try to keep a good attitude about things. I have too much going for me to be so pissed off over something like that. It's just frustrating when a man (or woman) learns they're not as great as maybe we thought we were.

Still, I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. Unfortunately, i've only gotten a bit deeper into White tribalism, but at least i'm not totally whacked out of my mind about it. It's just a mindset, I think, where I most value the kind of individualism and freedom principles that i've only ever truly felt in that American, frontiersman spirit.

Next, i've had my eyes on Western Europe, and to be honest, it's been pretty brutal so far. I used to think I was witty and funny, but the Russians, Germans, and Brits are making me realise i'm much less funny than I am annoying and offensive. But it's all good. I love the challenge, and the learning process. I'm just not sure where to go with it. I do have much love for Britain and Ireland, but I hate what's going on there right now. They just seem broken, mentally.

I find the Italian women pretty irresistible, but they're quite insane so far, as well. Still, i'm not going to give up easily. I did dedicate over a year to learning about Russia, and it brought me some great insight and respect for the place and people that many peers, generational or not, seem not to share. Shame.

So, my tl;dr; is to first try to seriously manage your expectations, if anything. If I just showed up to Russia looking to get laid, I would've made an even bigger ass of myself. Show respect to the people, history, culture, and maybe things will work out better for some of you guys who didn't have the greatest of experiences. Just a suggestion.
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After a few second and third-tier cities in Russia it seems to me the average Ukrainian is more beautiful.

But then again I'm keeping the best for the last, Moscow.
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You are correct, Ukrainians are better looking than Russians, Moscow included
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(04-13-2018 04:59 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  You are correct, Ukrainians are better looking than Russians, Moscow included

Roosh has said Ukrainians are thinner and more petite than Russians, English levels are also a lot lower in Russia than Ukraine
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Is roosh god? Loooool
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He agrees that Ukrainians are hotter if you prefer thinner and more petite which I do as do many other guys
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Russians and Ukrainians together can't beat Polish girls, which are genuine, fun loving, sweet, smart and somewhat easier to bang.

If you are into 'artificially' traditional women, head to Ukraine and Russia. Don't forget to be £ $ loaded though, as money is the only law over there.
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There's a lot of negativity pervading the FSU threads. 'It's not what is used to be', 'the women only want your money', 'Instagram has ruined the women'...

The only thing that matters is this: Is the FSU ( or whichever part of the globe you want to hit up ) better than where you are now? And secondly is it that much better than your home town /current location that it's worth investing time, effort, money going there? If it is then do what you can to go there, if t's not then don't. Simple.

People have unrealistic expectations. There are no perfect places in the world. There are places that might seem perfect for a week, month, summer but eventually the novelty wears off. It can still be a good place but it won't always give you the high it did when you first arrived, that's about you not the place. Take Ukraine. Some people are saying that it's not as good as it was just 2 years ago and is now not worth it. Trust me the country did not change that much in two years despite new Schengen visa rules or deeper insta infiltration. What will have changed in 2 years is your relation to that country because of what you are dealing with internally, your growth ( hopefully ) and subtle changing needs and desires.

Another issue is how few people put down roots in a place and change their mindset from being a visitor to being a member of the community with real local friends you do stuff with ( not just forum members to go clubbing with ). How many people take some classes or go to concerts with friends, how many go for weekend parties at country dachas, or just hang out at local friend's apartments to watch a game and have a beer? How many people make a serious effort to learn the local language and build ties? If you don't then you're rootless and will always be an itinerant wanderer never settling but constantly hitting the next country or city hoping to fill some spiritual void inside. People need community, they need people who care about them otherwise what do you have? Just a list of bangs but not much connection. You only get that from stability and sticking your flag in the ground somewhere and saying for better or worse this is my place.

It is my belief that unlimited choice brings unhappiness. Hence the farmer on the Altiplano in Ecuador is happier than the stock broker in NYC. The farmer doesn't have to decide what to wear to fit in, which of the thousands of matches to meet with, which club to hit up, where he's gonna live...He knows his tomorrow and all his tomorrows already and from that comes contentment. With those of us who are location independent what we searched for in our career ultimately is what kills us. Freedom to choose anywhere! But when you have that choice of leaving at the drop of a hat then why stay and try to make things work? Don't get any closes for a month in Warsaw ok fuck it I'll go to Krakow, fuck no bangs with 8s, I'll try Prague... where does it end? Circles around the globe in search of something but not finding it.

I'm not aiming this at 20 something guys. In your 20s you should be out there exploring but 40 and going in circles still? Nah, that ain't the way. Of course this is a travel forum so most people here will be more pre-disposed to travel and movement as opposed to standing still but there comes a time when you should say fuck it this place will do. Will it be perfect? No but i can handle that mentally. I can handle the lows because they will happen wherever i am. However by sticking somewhere you'll gain from friendships and being a part of a community something that you will lose as insta and tinder and schengen visa free rules downgrade dating dynamics.

My recipe for success: Choose a place and buy an apartment there. The reason being once you own a place you can't leave at the first obstacle. You'll have to make it work. You'll also make friends with your neighbours, you'll learn the language and become part of the social fabric and women will notice that and come into your orbit naturally. Good women. And your relationships will be deeper and strengthened by that.
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Instagram tinder and so on are an enormous problem. A girl can be in her village and with a few ass pictures her value is artificially elevated . With tinder they get messaged constantly. More and more foreigners are out there, so those girls who come from poor environments understand that just banging you for fun won't bring them anything. The whole point of going to FSU is to up date. Unless you go to a second tier city where there is no sex tourism and are lucky enough to find a girl that is not polluted by Instagram, it is possible. You also have to make sure she is not with you for your white god factor, as those girls will ditch you as soon as they get out of their shit hole. But than again, that demands a LOT of effort, and with that effort you could stay in the west create a great business and so on, hence increasing your value. Investing so much effort in a small city in the hopes of finding a preserved girl has no guarantee, and could end up making you néglige your future and hence work against you. Things have terribly changed in the past 5 years, and for the worst. Is EE better than the west? For sure it is, the west is so low it's pathetic for men. Is it still worth it with all the sex tourism instagram shit holes and effort it takes, when you could invest that huge amount of effort in yourself, in not sure. Our society has failed
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It's not going to be a source of strength to be winging it as some broke student or having the typical kind of "twenty-something year old man" kind of money and motives going into Russia, speaking as a fairly typical (i.e. inexperienced, but mostly eager to learn) perspective of somebody of an Anglo nation upbringing. I first got into Russia because I read some books on Peter I, and he's now one of my top 5 favourite leaders in history. I came to have to a lot of respect for Catherine II as well, and just the crazy irony that exists in the historical relationship between Germany and Russia. It's just marvelous to go there and learn about it, and coming from a proudly nationalistic background, I can greatly respect their heart and ethic.

As for this woman I met, I was very surprised by her initiative, and I quickly surmised that she would've made a fantastic business partner if she would've been able to appreciate and accept my lifestyle and local culture. That's the biggest missed opportunity as far as I see it. Of course, i'd be looking at maybe getting only one child out of her at the most, and then she'll be ready to divorce me by the time the child is between 9-12 years old, but I actually could envision making enough money with her to where I could pay her off, do the child proper justice, and still have enough left to live mostly on my terms.

I was going to offer to get her to Moscow or St. Petersburg (since she lived in Rostov), but she took care of that without ever asking for money or doing anything that would make me think she was shady. I was actually pretty stunned, and I still am. That's just not something I expect a woman to do. I'm not sure how much I like it, either. Because I think many of the shortcomings that eventually drove us apart stemmed from her never knowing her father, which harnessed her fantastic survival skills, but this might have damaged her mind pretty much right off the bat. Could be wrong, but this is the third consecutive woman i've known (like, 6-9 months each, roughly) who came of this background, and although they have never admitted it to me, I suspect that they all harbor a hatred for men deep enough to assure they'll never be loyal enough for me, and it stems from their early childhood daddy issues. It meant there was only so much respect she could ever have for me as a man. Now I could surely be "better", but it was a matter of respecting boundaries as far as i'm concerned, and I never asked for much. I just demanded "F off" time, where I just can't deal with needy nagging behaviour; seems like everybody could make use of that, but I guess that's just not the way the world works.

However, in being so practically minded, I think it really does value a man's worth more honestly than the way we behave in the Anglosphere. It's just appalling what kind of behaviour gets rewarded when i'm home. But don't forget that the Russian woman is savvy as hell, and there's most definitely a ceiling in your likely potential with them that you could slam into far quicker than you might have once believed. That lack of silly romanticism made me miss my old Latin lovers for the first time in over a decade, although I'd rather not be reminded of all that drama that comes with many of those memories.

So I'm kind of into the respect given for the power of being 'the man' who's in charge of situations, and truth is, whether your like it/don't like it/or feel indifferent, this respect and power is highly correlated to your supply of resources in most of the world, Russia included. But it's seriously not going to make it that much worse due to the kind of activities I engaged in.

Of all the trips i've ever taken for just the half month duration that I did similar to Russia, I spent far less money than I have anywhere else. It's probably because the kind of things that there are to do really are not all that expensive, and can be as fun as you're willing to make it. I was fun to hang out in Moscow going to a new museum every day while cultivating cool, more sophisticated new hobbies. Made me feel like I grew up in a real simpleton, culture, truth be told. So the lack of love she seemed to have for Americanisms wasn't not completely unjustified, if i'm being honest about it.

While museums might seem boring on paper, I couldn't believe my eyes seeing as how these galleries are 90% young women, the vast majority of them rolling solo or with another single female friend. Never saw many couples at all; I have no idea why. If they did, they usually had a kid with them, but if I spoke Russian and actually lived there, I would hang out in the museums like a new religion if i'm looking for girls to talk to. I can't believe more dudes were not keen on that, or maybe it was just a slow week. I have no idea, but it seems like a pretty good plan if i'm looking for a cool adventure.
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(04-13-2018 09:13 AM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  truth is, whether your like it/don't like it/or feel indifferent, this respect and power is highly correlated to your supply of resources in most of the world, Russia included.

That is how it should be -- and that is what a traditional women desires (for a man who can provide for her and your family). In the West, it is all about how the man can make her feel emotionally and how much he can entertain her, because Western women have "evolved" on the hierarchy of needs from survival and safety to love and belonging, esteem, and self-actualization. lol.


(04-13-2018 09:13 AM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  While museums might seem boring on paper, I couldn't believe my eyes seeing as how these galleries are 90% young women, the vast majority of them rolling solo or with another single female friend.

As a history buff, I go to museums everywhere that I travel, including the U.S. It is a way to connect with the history and the culture of a place -- and is usually intellectually fascinating. You will not, however, see 90% young women in Western museums. That fact bodes well for Russia.
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When I was in Russia in 2015, I was surprised how little actual Russian girls drank. At bars/clubs in Moscow or SPB, the drunkest girls were the Brits and Germans.

Can't comment on traditionality, but of course Instagram has fucked a lot of things up, I do recall meeting this girl at GUM who was easily an 8.5, exchanging numbers, and I suggested exploring Moscow and spending an evening together, she said she really wants to come, but she's in a serious relationship, but has to think about it. A couple of hours later, she texted me and said it'll be unfair on her boyfriend, especially since I am essentially a visitor and it would have been different if I was living and working in Moscow. Tbh, I didn't speak any Russian at the time and my game level wasn't the best, or else it could have been different.

I initially thought she was bluffing, but saw her VK that she got married a couple of months ago (at age 24).
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Tail Gunner makes some good points, but he has not been to Russia, so they are assumptions mostly. Would be better if only guys with experience in the Russian field would comment.
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(04-13-2018 02:52 PM)gowest Wrote:  Tail Gunner makes some good points, but he has not been to Russia, so they are assumptions mostly. Would be better if only guys with experience in the Russian field would comment.

They are not assumptions. As I previously stated, I have met Russian women in the U.S. and in the Baltics.

Would be better if guys who claim that "Russia is probably the worst place on Earth to look for traditional women" would provide facts, proof, or any other type of evidence to substantiate such a wacky claim. Why not at least post a few stories offering even anecdotal evidence of your reasoning?

I have seen men can Eastern European gold diggers just because those women expect men to woo them by buying dinner and drinks, which is the commonly accepted practice in those countries. In other words, they call them gold diggers because they act like traditional women. So, until you explain how you arrived at your conclusion, your claims have no merit.
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