Post: #501

911. Water is fluid and flows down until it finds its own leveling, typically flat regardless what object it's on.

I'm not here to say which model is the correct one because I dont fully know. I just take somebody else's word from both models and make my own judgement without cognitive dissonance. It's very hard for people to admit they were wrong. People like to argue about objects above the atmosphere that we can't test ourselves, which is pointless. The fact is that the debate is still up in the air(pun intended) after all these years says something.

Im witnessing a side get an edge and instead of debating them, mock them then ban them if the first part don't work.

Post: #502

How do they counter Sagan's example of Eratosthenes? Is Geometry a hoax too? The greek calculated the earth's circumference with only a 1% error max. Anyone who flies know this

This just more liminal garbage, just like alien stuff.

Post: #503

(06-21-2019 04:56 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  911. Water is fluid and flows down until it finds its own leveling, typically flat regardless what object it's on.

I'm not here to say which model is the correct one because I dont fully know. I just take somebody else's word from both models and make my own judgement without cognitive dissonance. It's very hard for people to admit they were wrong. People like to argue about objects above the atmosphere that we can't test ourselves, which is pointless. The fact is that the debate is still up in the air(pun intended) after all these years says something.

Im witnessing a side get an edge and instead of debating them, mock them then ban them if the first part don't work.

Objects on the surface of the earth are attracted to the center of the earth, which is the center of gravity of earth. Gravity is a force which applies on all objects, proportional to the mass of these objects and applying in the direction of the center of gravity of the earth. Everywhere you go on earth, gravity points towards the center of the earth. That's why the oceans are level everywhere on earth.

The ancient Greeks were able to establish the radius of the earth by measuring the difference in the length of the shade from a stick planted on different latitudes at the same date and time. The Arabs used a different and somewhat simpler experimental surveying method, which allowed them to refine that estimate of the earth radius down to 99.9% accuracy, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_q...rth+Radius

I would also recommend going through this thread, we've debunked flat earth using for instance air travel times, which are wildly incompatible with the flat earth hypothesis.

Post: #504

Flat earth theory and its elaborate stupidity that almost passes itself off as intelligible to the naïve, is a wonderful tool to disarm/discredit conspiracy theorists or those that decent against the elites official narrative on matters that threatens their absolute control.

Post: #505

(06-21-2019 08:07 PM)Sword and Board Wrote:  Flat earth theory and its elaborate stupidity that almost passes itself off as intelligible to the naïve, is a wonderful tool to disarm/discredit conspiracy theorists or those that decent against the elites official narrative on matters that threatens their absolute control.

I used to think that too... flat Earth is just to spread confusion, and to make conspiracy theorists look ridiculous.

Then I realized there isn't a single thing I can think of that they did NOT lie about. So why would the shape of the Earth be any different?

Especially since it is a direct attack against our spiritual traditions... without which we are defenseless against non-spiritual ideologies.

I'm not saying the Earth is flat, but I've learned not to be so cocky... so much we learned turned out to be bullshit once thoroughly examined.

I think it's pretty reasonable to be a flat-Earth agnostic at this point.

I was a moon landing agnostic too, but since I found out about telemetry data I'm sure we never went there.

I'm just waiting for an equivalent red pill about the Earth. The whole "you can't go to or fly over Antarctica thing" is a smoking gun at the very least.

Post: #506

What if we just don't know what the earth is beyond our sky? Considering the masonic angle of NASA, it would be safe to assume that somehow we have not yet been able to escape this place, whatever it is, though inner circles of elites either tell this to their (((kinsmen))) and that is why they try so hard to rule everything. I don't either believe or disbelieve, because looking at my telescope to the other celestial bodies makes me wonder just what is sometimes. I think flat earth has definitely been taken and turned into a religion of its own, painting skeptics and investigators into real nutjobs, which in turn discredits the practice of questioning what you hear, which in turn makes more obedient slaves.

One has to take a more philosophical examination of all facts and findings. Navigation does change angles when charting, as well as isogonic lines due to magnetic variation, which works on a globe model but not on a flat model. I have yet to experience weightlessness from high altitudes, but have worked with some people who *claim* they did. I think there is definitely something being hidden about the nature of our world from everyone's eyes, because if it was common knowledge, much of the deception currently masking our lives would be powerless.

Post: #507

(06-21-2019 08:52 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  I used to think that too... flat Earth is just to spread confusion, and to make conspiracy theorists look ridiculous.

Then I realized there isn't a single thing I can think of that they did NOT lie about. So why would the shape of the Earth be any different?

Especially since it is a direct attack against our spiritual traditions... without which we are defenseless against non-spiritual ideologies.

I'm not saying the Earth is flat, but I've learned not to be so cocky... so much we learned turned out to be bullshit once thoroughly examined.

I think it's pretty reasonable to be a flat-Earth agnostic at this point.

I was a moon landing agnostic too, but since I found out about telemetry data I'm sure we never went there.

Up thread there is a way you can prove, yourself, that the Earth is round. There's no way to lie about it. Thinking that the Earth MIGHT be flat is a reasonable position is willfully ignorant.

It's not surprising that you also think the moon landing didn't happen. Space is fake, right? Nukes are just big bombs. The dinosaurs were just a prank by God.

Post: #508

“It's not surprising that you also think the moon landing didn't happen. Space is fake, right? Nukes are just big bombs. The dinosaurs were just a prank by God.”

See above is my point. Anything and everything regardless of legitimacy can simply be lumped in the “those darn crazy conspiracy theorists that probably believe the earth is flat” waste bin.

Next thing they will be saying feminism and mass immigration were organized plots herp derp tinfoil....

Post: #509

(06-22-2019 06:34 AM)Sword and Board Wrote:  “It's not surprising that you also think the moon landing didn't happen. Space is fake, right? Nukes are just big bombs. The dinosaurs were just a prank by God.”

See above is my point. Anything and everything regardless of legitimacy can simply be lumped in the “those darn crazy conspiracy theorists that probably believe the earth is flat” waste bin.

So you're implying that one of those four things I mentioned is "legitimate."

Do you think so? If so, which one?

Post: #510

Nah, my point was clear. Anything and everything regardless of legitimacy can be lumped in with flat earth’ers. Ie actual red-pill topics tarnished with the same brush made irrelevant and distasteful to the public.

Post: #511

I worked for an Army Satellite communications. While I'm no electrical or satellite engineer one thing i can tell you is you wouldn't need the number of transponders in space if the earth was flat. You would basically just need one transponder with a big enough capacity to handle communication efficiently with overwhelming. Currently, we have hundreds of transponders in space, because satellites still require a direct line of transmission

Post: #512

We live in a world where we are all being lied to on a grand scale; why would the shape of the earth be any different? No one here knows anything, you haven't been up there or anyone you personally know, and you don't have the ability to go there. You're just taking someone else's word for it. A group who can't even keep there story straight might I add. It's like a religious belief.

While both models are still under question, Flat Earth model immediately means God Exist. There is a creator, a being operating on a higher virbrational level. It good be a spiritual warfare thing like Enhanced Eddie mentions. The point is the debate of both models is still up in the air.

Post: #513

(06-22-2019 11:02 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  We live in a world where we are all being lied to on a grand scale; why would the shape of the earth be any different? No one here knows anything, you haven't been up there or anyone you personally know, and you don't have the ability to go there. You're just taking someone else's word for it. A group who can't even keep there story straight might I add. It's like a religious belief.

While both models are still under question, Flat Earth model immediately means God Exist. There is a creator, a being operating on a higher virbrational level. It good be a spiritual warfare thing like Enhanced Eddie mentions. The point is the debate of both models is still up in the air.

You have to be trolling now. In no way is this up for debate. It is easily proven and has been since at least 240BC.

Your mind can be too open.

Post: #514

(06-21-2019 05:20 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  How do they counter Sagan's example of Eratosthenes? Is Geometry a hoax too? The greek calculated the earth's circumference with only a 1% error max. Anyone who flies know this

This one is interesting. They say that the calculations done by Eratosthenes only confirm a spherical Earth if the light rays are mostly parallel - like you (and Eratosthenes) would assume if the Sun is significantly far away. If the Sun is a lot closer, you get the same results, meaning a shadow in one area and none in another, with a flat Earth. Mark Sargent sells a model that shows the idea.

The Behind the Curve documentary is great so, not surprisingly, it's been disavowed by The Flat Earth society. It really shows the usually cast of characters that any movement attracts - the original true believers, the people trying to make money off them and the women looking for attention and validation.

Post: #515

(06-22-2019 11:02 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  While both models are still under question, Flat Earth model immediately means God Exist. There is a creator, a being operating on a higher virbrational level. It good be a spiritual warfare thing like Enhanced Eddie mentions. The point is the debate of both models is still up in the air.

Please elaborate.

Some basic logic tells me that huge universe filled with various stuff is more of an "evidence" that God exists that some disc floating in space.

Post: #516

My old guitar teacher, who I was really tight with and had a lot of respect for, went down the flat earth hole and was always posting about it and far right stuff on FB. The thing is he is really high IQ but opted out of med school to teach music and he seems really bitter about things from what he posts on his Facebook page. I totally get healthy skepticism and questioning everything but he really went off the deep end, it bums me out.

Post: #517

(06-22-2019 02:13 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 11:02 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  While both models are still under question, Flat Earth model immediately means God Exist. There is a creator, a being operating on a higher virbrational level. It good be a spiritual warfare thing like Enhanced Eddie mentions. The point is the debate of both models is still up in the air.

Please elaborate.

Some basic logic tells me that huge universe filled with various stuff is more of an "evidence" that God exists that some disc floating in space.

I think what he means is that the flat earth model pretty much means we are at the center of Creation, whereas in the way it is currently understood we are just a minuscule spec floating aimlessly in a universe that is forever expanding.

I have absolutely no scientific knowledge to back one position or another and from my ignorant standpoint I can nod my head to arguments on both sides while not being able to ascertain (nor being inclined to research) if they are true or not. Instinctively it seems to me that flat makes more sense. The magnetic north pole also seems to make more sense with it being in the center of a flat earth, instead of at the top which is no top at all. But again, I am completely ignorant on these topics, so I don't trust my intuition on them and other than seeing a few videos it's not a topic I am terribly interested in.

The psyop angle is interesting, but it could be seen in the sense of the flat earth society being a compromised institution throwing ridiculous ideas (as even I can identify) to keep people away from the truth - controlled opposition in other words. But I have no idea.

I agree with Enhanced Eddie that we have been lied to so much about everything that I have questioned it. There was a time I believed in evolution and I no longer believe it to be the case so I can't say I won't be convinced some day of this too. I am also fairly certain that NASA is as full of baloney as any other government agency, and probably more than most. I mean, one of their scientists saying they he would go to the moon in a nanosecond if he could, but they lost the technology since the 70s? What?

Post: #518

(06-21-2019 08:52 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  ...

I used to think that too... flat Earth is just to spread confusion, and to make conspiracy theorists look ridiculous.

Then I realized there isn't a single thing I can think of that they did NOT lie about. So why would the shape of the Earth be any different?

Especially since it is a direct attack against our spiritual traditions... without which we are defenseless against non-spiritual ideologies.

I'm not saying the Earth is flat, but I've learned not to be so cocky... so much we learned turned out to be bullshit once thoroughly examined.

I think it's pretty reasonable to be a flat-Earth agnostic at this point.

I was a moon landing agnostic too, but since I found out about telemetry data I'm sure we never went there.

I'm just waiting for an equivalent red pill about the Earth. The whole "you can't go to or fly over Antarctica thing" is a smoking gun at the very least.

The "you can't go to or fly over Antarctica thing" is not a smoking gun, it's a disinfo canard. You CAN fly over antarctica.

The reason we don't fly across the middle of Antarctica or the south pole is that it isn't on any commercial route. There are some routes between the Cono Sur (Chile and Argentina), Australia/NZ and South Africa that do fly over parts of Antarctica, those practically being the direct routes:



Bigger size map here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...rRoute.png

An yes, you can fly over Antarctica, it is done for purely touristic reasons though, Qantas charters flyover tours:





https://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/

Costs A$1,100 for an isle seat, lol.




For those too lazy to scroll back at my debunking FE through basic flight time/distances:

Flight time from Santiago (Chile) to Sydney (Oz) is 12 hours nonstop.

Flight time from LA to Sydney is 15 hours nonstop.



Flat earth map tells you that LA is roughly halfway between Sydney and Santiago de Chile... This alone tells you the flat earth map is completely RETARDED.

Flat earth is a complete mindfuck, a double bluff cognitive infiltration psyop that seeks to turn skeptics into idiots, manufacturing a "false positive". Yeah NASA lies, the media lies, the deep state lies, but it doesn't mean that EVERYTHING, including the most basic aspects of geography, must be a lie!

Flat earth is this guy, globalist technocrat Cass Sunstein, mindfucking you, he came up with this plan as a response to the truth movement making great inroads through high speed internet and YT in the 00s on subjects like 9/11 truth:



There's been literally millions of dollars spent to promote flat earth on the net through slick videos and dozens of agents/shills like Eric Dubay, people who have spent countless hours churning out professional videos promoting flat earth, to the point where there are now thousands of useful idiot followers. Don't be one of them!

Someone with a basic STEM training will understand that a flat earth planetary model defies the laws of gravity, the edges would collapse on the center and form a ball, with the heaviest elements going towards the center. That's why the molten core of the earth is mostly iron (it's actually in solid form due to the extreme level of pressure).

Guys who don't dismiss flat earth out of hand simply lack a basic scientific foundation. If you can't ween yourself from the notion of flat earth through reason, it might be a good idea to take a college-level physics class for your general education. Don't be Cass Sunstein mindfucked bitch!

Post: #519

(06-22-2019 09:38 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  I worked for an Army Satellite communications. While I'm no electrical or satellite engineer one thing i can tell you is you wouldn't need the number of transponders in space if the earth was flat. You would basically just need one transponder with a big enough capacity to handle communication efficiently with overwhelming. Currently, we have hundreds of transponders in space, because satellites still require a direct line of transmission

Flat earthers have to go through incredibly contorted made up theories to explain very basic things such as how you cannot see the sun from half of disc earth at nightime, I mean how in hell can such a bright object not be visible from anywhere on pizza earth, as if there was a giant visor cone that restricted solar rays...

(06-22-2019 11:02 AM)SilentOne Wrote:  We live in a world where we are all being lied to on a grand scale; why would the shape of the earth be any different? No one here knows anything, you haven't been up there or anyone you personally know, and you don't have the ability to go there. You're just taking someone else's word for it. A group who can't even keep there story straight might I add. It's like a religious belief.

While both models are still under question, Flat Earth model immediately means God Exist. There is a creator, a being operating on a higher virbrational level. It good be a spiritual warfare thing like Enhanced Eddie mentions. The point is the debate of both models is still up in the air.

From the PTB's perspective, one of the great things about the flat earth psyop is that it skewers bible literalists, who will take any tangential biblical reference as validation. It wouldn't be the first falsehood vehicled through a distortion of the bible (see the Rothschild Scofield Bible...)

Post: #520

ilostabet. You are correct about Psyops like the Flat Earth Society. It's been working so far to cause confusion. Now to answer sterling_archer...

With the Globe model, it makes sense why Atheists can exist. The idea that we came from the big bang explosion, even though all explosions I know destroys things, this one in particular created life all across the universe. This explosion flew around forming planets, creating life forms, and evolving into endless amounts of species. So far Earth is the only one we know that bear the emergence of Life. The Earth is already been fully explored and no need to search further, so let’s put the attention into exploring space. Although a very few selection of people had the ability to go there in the past, but can’t today.

Now with the Flat Earth model, there is no room for an Atheist. Some Consciousness being operating above the 3 Dimensional plane, normally known as God, created us and put us here for whatever reason. This is an intelligently design place, not created by chance. A duality world where there is Good/Evil, Man/Woman, Strong/Weak, Pleasure/Pain, and Knowledge/Belief. We’re not floating around in space but on a fixed and immovable surface. Maybe in a dome, maybe endless. The Bible claims its a dome and Religion makes more sense under it.

Post: #521

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