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(05-24-2014 10:33 AM)Ensam Wrote:  Yes. It's extremely fucked. I also wonder if it's legal. Seems like it's destroying evidence unless they're keeping an internal backup of everything he wrote.
I was refreshing over there for a while to see all the threads mods were deleting. One thread was titled "Isn't it illegal to delete evidence?"

It got deleted very quickly. Dodgy

PUA Hate has been mentioned in the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...rbara.html

Quote:Rodger was a website forum called PUAHate.com, which describes itself as the 'Anti-Pickup-Artist Movement' and aims to reveal 'the scams, deception, and misleading marketing techniques used by dating gurus and the seduction community to deceive men and profit from them.'
Its members are all men who have spent a lot of time and money on books and seminars and other materials that claim to help men 'pick-up' women - but failed.
The bitter, often misogynistic threads are full of tales of woe from men who don't know how to get women to date them and blame the women themselves for the problem.
He posted in 2013, 'If you could release a virus that would kill every single man on Earth, except for yourself because you would have the antidote, would you do it? You will be the only man left, with all the females. You would be able to have your pick of any beautiful woman you want, as well as having dealt vengeance on the men who took them from you. Imagine how satisfying that would be.'
Rodger's actions have been lauded on the site by other members who have called him a 'hero.'
05-24-2014 10:55 AM
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These betas are really fucked up people. Why do they take it out on the women? Why not the men?

They have the mentality of, "If I can't have these women, NO ONE CAN!!" Like children. Disgusting pathetic wastes of men.

If I was a raging beta, I'd kill the men and rape the women. Not merely murder the women. These guys are simply worthless losers who are going for the weaker targets because they know they'd lose if they tried to fuck with men.

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Errrrbody going Stalin up at the Misc and PUAHate.

That's why I like RVF. We never go Stalin.

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(05-24-2014 11:02 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Errrrbody going Stalin up at the Misc and PUAHate.

That's why I like RVF. We never go Stalin.

I love RVF because our members don't kill people because they can't get laid. Or at least they get banned before it gets that far.
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Hero
A hero or heroine refers to characters who, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, display courage and the will for self-sacrifice—that is, heroism—for some greater good of all humanity.

Loser
The definition of a loser is a person who is defeated or disadvantaged, is habitually failing or who is considered unpopular.

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What exactly is the point of puahate?

Just a collective of miserable men who validate one another and bitch about people who are actually trying to better themselves?

How depressing.
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dude clearly should have moved to montana...

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For someone on puahate, he sure seemed to rag on female mating preferences a lot. I wonder if he really believed game didn't work, or was he angry that it did work?

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(05-24-2014 11:14 AM)Deluge Wrote:  dude clearly should have moved to montana...

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Wait a minute. What is the subtext of this poster "15 bucks for sex isn't normal...but 100 bucks is just fine! Charge that and you're good to go!"

Considering he was so rich, he could have had a lot of sex no matter what the going rate.
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He could have gotten free "aspiring actress" poosay just by dropping his dad's status.

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As disheartening as this shit is, McQueen is right. He had all the intangibles, but just didn't put them together. So on one end, I do feel bad for him, yet at the same time, fuck him for taking the lives of other people solely on beta rage and the lack of strange in his life. Granted, I think this dude had way more mental issues that anyone could let on. It could've even been to the point where not even game could stoke the fires of his psychosis. Seems as if he needed some cognitive behavioral therapy before anything.

Like I said before, I get where he is from, feeling as though the shit you've been told from the beginning was all a lie. But to give up like that? To quit?

I have 1/2 notch to my record. I'm in my early 20s, going to school, with some body language issues that need fixing, social graces that need polishing, and trash logistics that need adjustments. Hell, I couldn't even get laid in my social circle. I could've easily said "fuck all these douches that get vagine, and the sloots that sleep with them" and cashed out. But why am I here?

To get better.
To take control of my situation.

Right now, I'm in the "shit." But do I give up? Of course not. Every man in here had to put in the time to get where they are. Why should I be any different?

Instead of complaining about "how hard" or "how impossible" it is to succeed in game, I ask myself "how DO I make it work?" Honestly, that has made all of the difference.

This is why we need sites like this and RoK. This challenges people to take control of their lives and quit being a victim. Because no matter how bad I can say my life is, there's a dude born in the Manila slums who literally has no chance at becoming anything more than that. I HAVE a shot. Frankly, that's all I need.
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So, PUAhate is "down for maintenance" and when you just got to PUAHate.com you get Rick Rolled on Youtube. Sounds like, as those who have posted before said, they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar (so to speak).
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(05-24-2014 10:45 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ^ Only a matter of time before they go 1984 on PUAHATE

The PUAHate forum is currently "down for maintenance."

Their website redirects to a rickroll if you type in puahate.com

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(05-24-2014 11:30 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  
(05-24-2014 10:45 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ^ Only a matter of time before they go 1984 on PUAHATE

The PUAHate forum is currently "down for maintenance."

Their website redirects to a rickroll if you type in puahate.com

Nice timing, great minds right.
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(05-24-2014 10:29 AM)Icarus Wrote:  January 27, 2014:

Quote:The problem is that women's sexual attractions are flawed. They are attracted to degenerate, stupid, violent men.

January 27, 2014:

Quote:It's not about the sex itself. It's about the validation. It's about knowing that women want you, and the feeling of self-worth that comes with it.

This dude in the honesty of his insanity has encapsulated the essence of the male hamster:

1. Women are dumb whores who love thugs,
2. Nevertheless, the validation conferred on a man by women (not the sex itself, which is always tertiary to these guys, but the validation) is the one thing without which life is not worth living.

Such is the glory of the human mind.

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I think the term Pick-up Artist needs to die already. I prefer the term Cocksman from Wedding Crashers. Laugh

I'm gonna Rant a little here. Just because you pick up a paint brush that doesn't make you fucking Picasso. It doesn't even make you an artist. Most artists didn't get recognition till long after they died. But what picking up the paint brush does is open your mind to another world that you need to explore to understand. This kid just walked into Walmart and bought some fucking paint brushes for 3 for a dollar and said "Look I'm an artist. I derserve recognition. Love me. Fuck me."

To be any kind of "Artist" means to live the lifestyle. To put in the work and achieve greatness despite multiple failures. This kid just didn't have it.

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This is some nice karma for the fucks at PUAHate for their constant bullshit hating on Roosh and this forum.
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Every time this happens, I think of Shakespeare:

Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings,
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.
Grim-visaged war hath smooth'd his wrinkled front;
And now, instead of mounting barded steeds
To fright the souls of fearful adversaries,
He capers nimbly in a lady's chamber
To the lascivious pleasing of a lute.
But I, that am not shaped for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp'd, and want love's majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nymph;
I, that am curtail'd of this fair proportion,
Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
Deformed, unfinish'd, sent before my time
Into this breathing world, scarce half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That dogs bark at me as I halt by them;
Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to spy my shadow in the sun
And descant on mine own deformity:
And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots have I laid, inductions dangerous,

By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams,
To set my brother Clarence and the king
In deadly hate the one against the other:
And if King Edward be as true and just
As I am subtle, false and treacherous,
This day should Clarence closely be mew'd up,


The "spy my shadow in the sun / and descant on mine own deformity" is a particularly uncanny description of his proclivity for venting with his youtube videos and forum accounts.
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It's rare that a story confirms so many manosphere tenants at once in such a shocking and horrific manner.

I'm still processing everything I feel about this, but one thing stands out: I am so thankful I found game.

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Whoever it was who coined the term "bad game kills" didn't know how right he was.

In pretty sure I saw it on RVF first, Athlone?
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Vicious, it was Shakespeare lol if not earlier - see above.
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RE: Male student shoots up California campus because he can't get laid
I really wonder about all of you in this thread saying "look at him, he had a BMW, loaded parents and a good looking face. What does he have to complain about?" That seems to be a very superficial take on what is important in a man's life. If someone were to come onto this board feeling depressed, almost no one would recommend buying an expensive car, getting plastic surgery, and hitting up parents for cash as some sort of cure-all.

This guy is (or rather was) an empty soul. What did he live for? Getting laid? He had no craft, no friends, no romance, and, in his mind, no future. His legacy is a facebook page documenting whatever shallow friendships he accrued, and a series of forum accounts, youtube videos, and blog posts that are an enormous cry for help. If he had one single person that cared about him in this world they would have seen or read something attached to his name and tried to do something. But they didn't.

Sure, he might have displayed some narcissism, but he is one narcissist in a society of narcissists. And this society loves to trumpet about how much it cares about each and every one of us while at the same time it destroys the traditional bonds that people could rely upon in the past. If people spent one tenth of the amount of time they spend signalling about relationships and spent it actually forging relationships we wouldn't be headed on the fast-track to cultural and moral oblivion.

This guy is a symptom of the collapse of masculinity and the Anglosphere in general, and the sick fucks at PUAHate do a good job of emphasizing that he's not alone. This won't be the last time we hear of some listless young male going off the deep end.
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(05-24-2014 09:36 AM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  To be honest I have no sympathy for this bullshit.

Famous Hollywood director father? Check.

Tons of money? Check.

Traveled the world on his Daddy's dime? Check.

Nice BMW car? Check.

Blessed with above average looks? Check.

The problem is is that when someone is coddled to such an extent, they cannot handle when life isn't 'fair'.

This generation needs a serious dose of hardship and a reality check.

Life isn't fucking fair. So what?

Look around at those who have less than you. There's plenty.

A quick Google search on 'how to meet women' pulls up thousands of entries that a monkey could pour through and glean valuable information.

The fact that he was a hollywood kid and couldn't use his dad's prestige to get laid is shocking. He was either gay, mentally retarded, or plain stupid.

This kid was a narcissistic brat. Period.

I was about to write about how I feel for the kid and then I dug a little deeper.

This kid was a psycho plain and simple. He had a f*cking silver platter of playerdom in the making and took his narcissism to another level. How the f*ck he couldn't leverage his dad's influence to land some do nothing producer role and bang hollywood bisches on the regular.

This is what a hedonistic culture does to people on both ends of the spectrum. The punk deserved what came to him.

His victims didn't deserve this.

Edit: Somone quickly grab a cache'd copy of the PUAhate website posts before its scrubbed!!!! That's worth a lot as some evidence when MSM picks this up and tries to paint this on us.
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I'm sure Shakespeare captured the essence of it in prose first but someone on here distilled it to that far shorter phrase yet still kept the meaning intact.
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