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(01-17-2018 05:04 PM)Dragan Wrote:  My theory is that they manage to get out, and then the hyper-stimulation of modern Western society just encourages them to pursue more and more "feels". I don't really blame them, especially with their levels of attractiveness. Also, Ukraine is obviously a "shithole", so what are they gonna do when they get to the West?

Water takes the shape of the container that it fills. You can take a nice Ukrainian girl from the village, put her in the West for three years, she comes back an instagram attention whore with 4 sponsors and no more boyfriends, just "fuck buddies", as she calls them. I met girls like this even in Poland, where the problem is worse than earlier reports about Poland suggested i.e. a lot of Polish girls who have "girl game", are generally over 23-25, and are of the sexy/slutty type, they take everything they can and are certainly not the fabled sweet polish stereotype that some people still believe in.

I would say, however, that although the water takes the shape of the container it fills, there are different types of girls, so various girls may be more or less damaged by being in the West than others.

A true quality girl would be a girl who starts as a nice village girl, is exposed to all the degeneracy the West can throw at her via an extended multi-year stay in the US/UK, but comes back just as sweet, traditional and untainted as she was when she left. For it has been rightly commented before: an innocent "good girl" from a village has had limited exposure to Western degeneracy compared to Western girls, so at the moment she takes the shape of her relatively traditional village girl "water container".

The real test is when she exits that sweet village girl container in the Ukraine and is exposed to the West.

Since women generally follow the crowd and are followers of pop culture, I do not have much faith in a Ukrainian girl's ability - or the ability of any girl from anywhere from that matter - to resist the bad influences of the new environment. That's why, as above, the rule still stands: if you find a good one, don't bring her back to the West.
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I guess a lot of us travellers investigate countries thoroughly before boarding a plane and that includes looking at STD and AIDS stats.

Lots of us have worked to hard and planned too long to just go get a "lifetime sexually transmitted souvenir".

The most discussed top 3 countries in the forum...Ukraine, Philippines, and Colombia are the most " sexually risky"

Ukraine is tough because of the semi pro's in the clubs, the single mom or student or low income working girl dabblers/moonlighters

Just walk into "THE BAR" at Arena City and you'll see the tourists mixing with the "ladies" and if you know anything about AIDS you won't stay and chat for long.

It's debatable to me (and other posters) telling a chick how long your in the country (shit tests)
1) IF you say not long .......you see immediately if she wants your money or food
2) IF you say a long time.....she may work you until she gets the food/money......and fuck without a condom is a possibility (your dating and she's safe?)

Any chick thats a 6 and below it's a no brainer to wrap up the tool. Even to a drunken clubber she ain't worth the risk
Sadly for me it's the 7 and up chicks that could be the most risky because they get the big money waved in there faces and the extra cash for raw dogging. Like the post above...50 percent don't know they are infected with AIDS.

Yes there are the sweet village girls? That may only go to the big city for school or to visit.....but it only takes one encounter in a big city.

The first AIDs story I read 20 years ago was a virgin girl in New York City who went to her first night club and fucked the bouncer when she got drunk....she lost her virginity and got AIDs all in one night.

Maybe the diminishing number of "western men" in the Ukraine is our knowledge of the country and the difficulty giving it a value for time rating over it's pro's and cons. IMO
(just like Colombia or Philippines...maybe Romania, Thailand also)

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@Incubus. The HIV rates in Ukraine and Russia are both troubling. And it's all linked to the culture of not giving a fuck, fatalism, and taking massive risk for some feels.

Poland or the Balkans starts to look more promising...

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(01-18-2018 12:41 PM)Dragan Wrote:  @Incubus. The HIV rates in Ukraine and Russia are both troubling. And it's all linked to the culture of not giving a fuck, fatalism, and taking massive risk for some feels.

Poland or the Balkans starts to look more promising...

Have you been to Ukraine?

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RE: The Ukraine Thread III
It's on the list, but I'd hit Russia first for the culture, etc.

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01-18-2018 01:17 PM
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(01-18-2018 12:35 PM)Incubus Wrote:  The most discussed top 3 countries in the forum...Ukraine, Philippines, and Colombia are the most " sexually risky"

Totally bogus and you made that up, for one thing the AIDS rate is multiple orders of magnitude in some African countries.

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I would say Incubus is scaremongering considering he picked three of the most popular rvf destinations. I rawdogged Ukraine from the bottom to the top, I have no diseases. Mostly the cheapest sex workers/gays/heroin addicts that have HIV
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(01-18-2018 02:47 PM)Tintin Wrote:  I would say Incubus is scaremongering considering he picked three of the most popular rvf destinations. I rawdogged Ukraine from the bottom to the top, I have no diseases. Mostly the cheapest sex workers/gays/heroin addicts that have HIV

In my early years in UA back 8 years ago when I started going to UA... I had only a few a girls that wanted a condom.... I went ahead and raw dogged it with them anyways.

Tip: Don't try that in the West with girls. LOL

Now I think back now do I realise how God dam stupid I was....the key is to learn from your mistakes.

The only STD I ever got over the years was warts which is very common since 80% of men get them at some point.

I hear you why most don't want it....a condom is like getting a massage with a coat on.

Still better safe then sorry especially if she never asks for protection the first time you do it... your definitely not first person or the last person she is having unprotected sex with.

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So for those who rawdog potential pregnancy isn't even considered as a possible drawback?
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Always tarp up, esp the idiots that write threads like i banged 50+ chicks in 50 days, you're playing russian roulette with your dick, f*ck that. I guess when you're young and stupid you make mistakes but don't be a cautionary tale.
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It's madness that lads are thinking of going in bareback with multiple women and especially with those they barely know. Wrap up guys and only go bareback when you are in an LTR or if you want kids.

I rawdogged a studentka in Kiev a few years back in a drunken stupor. I was with her for about 3 weeks. When she dropped the 'I was smashed by a Sudanese dude who used hookers', my knob shriveled up faster than you can say "shrinkage".

These girls are sluts, no doubt about it.
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(01-19-2018 05:45 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  So for those who rawdog potential pregnancy isn't even considered as a possible drawback?

They have nothing to gain from getting pregnant from a foreigner visitor. Alimony must be around 50$ in UA.

And...Seems I win the rawdog Olympics of the Ukraine thread!

I must admit though that I have spent quite a chunck last year in morning after pills. I remember one I had to pick her up next day after her work, and gave her the pill and a bottle of water. Then french kissed her to make sure she had swallowed that.

This was an Ukrainian in Portugal though, quite a different story considering that a kid with me would automatically gave her citizenship.

Maybe I should post this on the most degenerate stuff thread)))

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If I fuck 50 Ukrainian young women and I jizz inside a few and one gets knocked up then so be it, if she decides to tell me then I will sling her a few Grivnas every month

Better than to have fucked 50 Ukr cuties with a condom, a few times you probably couldn't even cum because the thing is cutting off your blood supply,and she is also less likely to orgasm.

The only time I wear a condom is if I'm doing her in the ahole and even then not always.

If a girl insists on a condom, then after a few thrusts I will pull it off, she never notices and I can just say it fell off afterwards. Or I will deliberately make it break, buy a condom to small for my dick, pull it tight, then bang her hard to ensure it breaks. Then I can just say "Sorry sweetheart, these Ukrainian condoms aren't made for real men"
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(01-19-2018 09:29 AM)Batka Wrote:  .... she dropped the 'I was smashed by a Sudanese dude who used hookers' ......these girls are sluts, no doubt about it.

Maybe it would be fairer to say "The only girls I am able to score are skanky sluts, no doubt about it".
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(01-19-2018 12:18 PM)Count Pierre Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 09:29 AM)Batka Wrote:  .... she dropped the 'I was smashed by a Sudanese dude who used hookers' ......these girls are sluts, no doubt about it.

Maybe it would be fairer to say "The only girls I am able to score are skanky sluts, no doubt about it".

Even though you may think you're special by banging a hot chick within a couple of dates or hours, chances are she has done that many many times before. Everyone has always heard this one from a chick, i've never done this before or i don't normally do this haha.
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(01-19-2018 10:20 AM)Tintin Wrote:  If I fuck 50 Ukrainian young women and I jizz inside a few and one gets knocked up then so be it, if she decides to tell me then I will sling her a few Grivnas every month

Better than to have fucked 50 Ukr cuties with a condom, a few times you probably couldn't even cum because the thing is cutting off your blood supply,and she is also less likely to orgasm.

The only time I wear a condom is if I'm doing her in the ahole and even then not always.

If a girl insists on a condom, then after a few thrusts I will pull it off, she never notices and I can just say it fell off afterwards. Or I will deliberately make it break, buy a condom to small for my dick, pull it tight, then bang her hard to ensure it breaks. Then I can just say "Sorry sweetheart, these Ukrainian condoms aren't made for real men"

Sounds like you've got it all figured out.
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Haha, I do exactly the same thing Tintin. Usually I can convince them to let me go raw before resorting to that though, simply by getting them extremely horny and making my dick go soft as soon as I put a condom on. Take the condom off- rock hard again. They want it so bad by this point that they just go “fuck it”...
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The HIV problem is more prevalent in the East (conflict area) at least that's all I've been hearing.

Anyone in Kharkiv at the moment? I'm here one more night with my beta male business partner then heading back to Kiev where I'm currently living.
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It very much depends on what girls you like to penetrate, its highly unlikely that any girl that I had in Ukraine was with someone from Sudan.

The gutter gaming, bottom feeding, barebackers will always be at the highest risk.
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(01-19-2018 10:04 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 05:45 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  So for those who rawdog potential pregnancy isn't even considered as a possible drawback?

They have nothing to gain from getting pregnant from a foreigner visitor. Alimony must be around 50$ in UA.

And...Seems I win the rawdog Olympics of the Ukraine thread!

I must admit though that I have spent quite a chunck last year in morning after pills. I remember one I had to pick her up next day after her work, and gave her the pill and a bottle of water. Then french kissed her to make sure she had swallowed that.

This was an Ukrainian in Portugal though, quite a different story considering that a kid with me would automatically gave her citizenship.

Maybe I should post this on the most degenerate stuff thread)))

Yea I understand the citizenship situation, but I was mainly referring to the idea of potentially having multiple children around the world that essentially would never really see or meet.
I have friends who got girls pregnant, where there was absolutely no financial gain for the women, but they were just excited about being pregnant and thus kept the babies.

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This is not strictly connected to Ukraine, but I am observing an improvement of the situation for the Ukrainian girls in Poland. In the past I didn't meet many of them since they were stacked in their local Ukrainian social circles, nowadays they are everywhere and it is getting easy to spot them in bars and clubs - those girls undoubtedly prefer the Western foreigner to the local guy. Solid game is needed and sometimes also Polish skills since they first learn Polish and not English when they move to Poland.
I imagine on the other end (don't have any specific feedback since last September) that it is getting increasingly difficult in Ukraine: there are still hot girls who didn't leave yet the country?)))
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