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RE: Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General
Also really appreciating the wisdom in this thread. I have accepted the nature and challenges of relationships, especially in the Western world, and the vital importance of gratitude, living life on my terms and not allowing others to dictate terms or change my mood. I am closer to making a physical move that will increase my independence and life safisfaction plus provide a challenge that only relocation can. I've been focusing on building my business, making investments, and deepening my commitment to self-improvement along with enjoying moments of beauty throughout the day. As always, there is no place I trust more to learn from and share with than the men of this forum. Thank you, brothers.

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I'm just glad a place like this exists where men can share their wisdom and experiences with other men. We can all learn something from each other and support one another as we go through this thing called life. Especially in this current age of history when we're getting shit on left and right just for having a dick.

We're all in this together.

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Been needing this advice lately.
It's as if by not accepting you feel like you have at least
some sort of control instead of being powerless
in a world where women are the shittiest they have ever been. May days grant me wisdom to not feel angry about the situation.

This gem needs to be back on the front page.
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Bump again...even putting aside the woman thing specifically which is really disappointing, I'm someone who tends to let whatever bother of the day take over my thoughts and mood and not give myself credit for everything that's going well.

I've been working on getting my inner game right which has been slipping for a while...the most helpful thing has been really developing confidence that the things I am doing that I enjoy are OK, be it staying in to read books, or ditching pub nights to get in an evening workout, and carrying with me that sense that because of those things I'm in control of myself, I'm building the Badger I want to be, which snowballs into the confidence and non-neediness you need to game girls effectively.

I also agree with some commenters who suggests it's not that the game is frustrating or challenging as much as it's boring much of the time. There is a real diminishing return, and spending too much time doing it or even thinking about your game can rob you of the time to develop the things you'll use for that inner game. That said I jive with the guys who are frustrated and feeling they're missing out as they see other guys get either new sluts on the weekly or successful serious relationships. When you think you understand game and you still see pairings that don't make sense, it makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't just total luck in a way you can't change your odds.
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What helped me was realizing women have both personal responsibility and a vulnerability for absorbing the best and worst a culture throws at them.

If I meet a tatted thot with a nose ring and a bad attitude, I know she made bad choices and my boundaries won't allow me to even buy her a drink. At the same time, I understand her parents failed her and she's mired in a culture that enables and rewards the worst behavior.

So while my values are firm, I understand how a girl could get caught up in that shit and turn into a caricature of sjw western women. This means I harbor no resentment, bitterness or frustration with the state of women. It's in their nature to follow, and right now, there are few good leaders. I suppose this is a combination of understanding my own values while acknowledging that women, in general and as a whole, are the victims of a declining western empire - but a different kind of victim than the left claims women are. Women are the victims of the very people proclaiming how victimized they are.

There's a Buddhist saying which I like: To understand is to forgive. I have forgiven modern women because I understand them.

But that doesn't mean I take their shit.
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(07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  At the same time, men should understand that the entirety of life is not limited to the world of eros and relations with women. Don't let the fact that the world of women is so tough stain the way you feel about life in general. There are vast other parts of life that can be enjoyed and that are endless sources of interest and pleasure. Don't miss out on life as a whole just because a part of life -- even a major part -- is fraught with problems and difficulties.

Realising this should be a more important part of one's inner game than any enforced abundance mentality. The latter can verge on self-delusion in the anglosphere and also relies on the principle that it is women who can add true lasting value to your life.

You should approach women with the attitude that women in general offer very little value to your life in comparison with your other passions, not that there are other women out there of the same or better quality you could also obtain. Men are gifted with the ability to be passionate about things in themselves, not because they satisfy the female need for attention. These will vary for each man, but they bring a much more intense and lasting satisfaction than the transitory pleasures of even a feminine, compliant 10.

(07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  When I look around me, I see a world that has never been more interesting and more amazing. The Internet is the most wondrous invention in the history of mankind; it allows us to access a million libraries of Alexandria in the palm of our hand. Life has never been more safer or more physically comfortable; there have never been greater opportunities for men to live a healthy lifestyle, to keep their bodies fit and their minds sharp. There are so many things to be interested in, to develop knowledge or even expertise about, to simply enjoy and be entertained by, that it's an embarrassment of riches at every moment.

This passage I have to fundamentally disagree with and I know it wasn't intended this way, but it sounds almost bugmanish. I think many in the manosphere feel a malaise about modernity in general and its effects on masculine men. The depreciating quality of women is just one aspect of this.

Safety and physical comfort carry a psychic cost for men. I also disagree about the opportunities for a healthy lifestyle and a sharp mind. Xenestrogens abound. Modern work is often sedentary. Technology is destroying our attention spans.

And the mere accumulation of knowledge adds little without a backbone of values.

Quintius put it well earlier in this thread:

(07-05-2014 02:15 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Sometimes I really believe that the medieval and ancient worlds were wiser than we are, because they emphasized art, religion, and faith rather than naked science and technology, as we do. I wonder what "progress" has really bought us. Are we any happier now than man in 1500? Man in 900? Man in 100 B.C.? I am not so sure. Educated elites of past ages were far more refined than we are.

Progress in knowledge, science, technology, and power is only progress in means. Unless we improve our ends, purposes, or desires, then "progress" is nothing but an illusion. Reason improves the instrumentalities, but the ends are determined by instincts that come with us from birth. And the only proven checks on instinct are the moral codes of religion.
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"And the mere accumulation of knowledge adds little without a backbone of values."

Yes, but more importantly is to develop an individual sense of purpose. Everyone spends most of their time doing things out of necessity, to build personal comfort, impress others, raise social standing. Sense of purpose is something beyond that. Something you'd want to be remembered by. A legacy.

Most people value things they don't have and are difficult to obtain. However, it's also a cliche' that those who reach the mountaintop feel an immediate sense of anticlimax. The striving tends to be more fulfilling. For instance, I don't know how happy Tom Cruise is, but the fact he learned how to fly a helicopter (and act out a scene at the same time) at 55 and has managed to stay in the sort of physical shape he's in gives himself a sense of continued purpose that most people his age have long lost.

That's the problem with youth in general, hence the problem with bangable women. They have no sense of what they were put on this earth to do, and so naturally they fall back onto little more than superficial pursuits and acting out of raw hypergamy instinct.
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The only solution is forced sex camps where their sole purpose is to sexually please men from 18 years old onwards. Within a few months of this they would understand their true place and purpose on this earth. To open up their fucking legs and shut their wretched mouths. Any politician who proposed this, along with taking away female voting rights would win a fucking landslide.
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(11-20-2019 05:29 AM)notcha Wrote:  The only solution is forced sex camps where their sole purpose is to sexually please men from 18 years old onwards. Within a few months of this they would understand their true place and purpose on this earth. To open up their fucking legs and shut their wretched mouths. Any politician who proposed this, along with taking away female voting rights would win a fucking landslide.

You....sound like a guy that has let his frustrations with women make him feel bad about life in general.

Actually, you sound way beyond that, but I'm being polite here.

I'm frustrated too. I'm angry too. But what good is spewing that ridiculous revenge fantasy gonna do? You know it's never gonna happen, so you should probably start looking for other solutions.
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(11-20-2019 05:29 AM)notcha Wrote:  The only solution is forced sex camps where their sole purpose is to sexually please men from 18 years old onwards. Within a few months of this they would understand their true place and purpose on this earth. To open up their fucking legs and shut their wretched mouths. Any politician who proposed this, along with taking away female voting rights would win a fucking landslide.

You repulse me.
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Thanks for bringing this thread back, so I could read it.
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(07-30-2018 12:25 PM)Oak Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  When I look around me, I see a world that has never been more interesting and more amazing. The Internet is the most wondrous invention in the history of mankind; it allows us to access a million libraries of Alexandria in the palm of our hand. Life has never been more safer or more physically comfortable; there have never been greater opportunities for men to live a healthy lifestyle, to keep their bodies fit and their minds sharp. There are so many things to be interested in, to develop knowledge or even expertise about, to simply enjoy and be entertained by, that it's an embarrassment of riches at every moment.

This passage I have to fundamentally disagree with and I know it wasn't intended this way, but it sounds almost bugmanish. I think many in the manosphere feel a malaise about modernity in general and its effects on masculine men. The depreciating quality of women is just one aspect of this.

Safety and physical comfort carry a psychic cost for men. I also disagree about the opportunities for a healthy lifestyle and a sharp mind. Xenestrogens abound. Modern work is often sedentary. Technology is destroying our attention spans.

I don't understand your objection for this simple reason:

When you live in relative safety and physical comfort you can, at any point, choose to put yourself in harms way or engineer some discomfort. But you can't do that in the opposite situation.

So with safety and modernity, you get all the pleasures of developed culture (obviously you have to seek it out, because great culture is different from current popular entertainment), cuisine, luxury... all of which are required (in some portion) for a full life of context and reflection. But then you can also experience hardship whenever you choose.

When you read enough old books, you'll see that every generation since the beginning of recorded history would roughly break down into people who complained progress wasn't happening fast enough vs people complaining that things are too complicated and it ain't the good old days.

I'll bet the moment after the first caveman figured out how to use a rock to smash his prey, the second caveman complained that it was too decadent and they needed to return to the simpler life of struggle.
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(11-20-2019 04:29 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 12:25 PM)Oak Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  When I look around me, I see a world that has never been more interesting and more amazing. The Internet is the most wondrous invention in the history of mankind; it allows us to access a million libraries of Alexandria in the palm of our hand. Life has never been more safer or more physically comfortable; there have never been greater opportunities for men to live a healthy lifestyle, to keep their bodies fit and their minds sharp. There are so many things to be interested in, to develop knowledge or even expertise about, to simply enjoy and be entertained by, that it's an embarrassment of riches at every moment.

This passage I have to fundamentally disagree with and I know it wasn't intended this way, but it sounds almost bugmanish. I think many in the manosphere feel a malaise about modernity in general and its effects on masculine men. The depreciating quality of women is just one aspect of this.

Safety and physical comfort carry a psychic cost for men. I also disagree about the opportunities for a healthy lifestyle and a sharp mind. Xenestrogens abound. Modern work is often sedentary. Technology is destroying our attention spans.

I don't understand your objection for this simple reason:

When you live in relative safety and physical comfort you can, at any point, choose to put yourself in harms way or engineer some discomfort. But you can't do that in the opposite situation.

So with safety and modernity, you get all the pleasures of developed culture (obviously you have to seek it out, because great culture is different from current popular entertainment), cuisine, luxury... all of which are required (in some portion) for a full life of context and reflection. But then you can also experience hardship whenever you choose.

When you read enough old books, you'll see that every generation since the beginning of recorded history would roughly break down into people who complained progress wasn't happening fast enough vs people complaining that things are too complicated and it ain't the good old days.

I'll bet the moment after the first caveman figured out how to use a rock to smash his prey, the second caveman complained that it was too decadent and they needed to return to the simpler life of struggle.

I have to disagree with you here. A few years ago I was a part of the team that developed a modem for some Apple device. We achieved some enormous data rates that no one would ever need. Every day during my commute, I noticed that 90% of the women have their noses stuck in an iDevice. The mere thought that I spent my time in making these devices even faster just dis motivated me of working too hard at work.

This made me sad at first. I could spot many attractive women that would have otherwise gave me a glance and a smile some five years ago. After the initial moment of sadness passed, I decided to buy a few Apple shares, which gave me a great return on investment.

I cannot fight it directly, so I decided to guerrilla on the system. Profit off the no kids working corporate female rat, the sodomites and anything in between. The profits shall be then invested into the Antonius tribe.
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^ I'm thinking of starting a direct ship wine and cat food business.
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(11-20-2019 04:57 PM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 04:29 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 12:25 PM)Oak Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  When I look around me, I see a world that has never been more interesting and more amazing. The Internet is the most wondrous invention in the history of mankind; it allows us to access a million libraries of Alexandria in the palm of our hand. Life has never been more safer or more physically comfortable; there have never been greater opportunities for men to live a healthy lifestyle, to keep their bodies fit and their minds sharp. There are so many things to be interested in, to develop knowledge or even expertise about, to simply enjoy and be entertained by, that it's an embarrassment of riches at every moment.

This passage I have to fundamentally disagree with and I know it wasn't intended this way, but it sounds almost bugmanish. I think many in the manosphere feel a malaise about modernity in general and its effects on masculine men. The depreciating quality of women is just one aspect of this.

Safety and physical comfort carry a psychic cost for men. I also disagree about the opportunities for a healthy lifestyle and a sharp mind. Xenestrogens abound. Modern work is often sedentary. Technology is destroying our attention spans.

I don't understand your objection for this simple reason:

When you live in relative safety and physical comfort you can, at any point, choose to put yourself in harms way or engineer some discomfort. But you can't do that in the opposite situation.

So with safety and modernity, you get all the pleasures of developed culture (obviously you have to seek it out, because great culture is different from current popular entertainment), cuisine, luxury... all of which are required (in some portion) for a full life of context and reflection. But then you can also experience hardship whenever you choose.

When you read enough old books, you'll see that every generation since the beginning of recorded history would roughly break down into people who complained progress wasn't happening fast enough vs people complaining that things are too complicated and it ain't the good old days.

I'll bet the moment after the first caveman figured out how to use a rock to smash his prey, the second caveman complained that it was too decadent and they needed to return to the simpler life of struggle.

I have to disagree with you here.

It is impossible to function these days without a smart phone.

These devices are some of the most addictive things known to man - destroying man's mental capabilities and assailing us with a wall of non-stop trivia, nonsense and advertising.

Whats the point in libraries when no-one is reading books and, despite our best efforts, our attention span is being denuded by the bombardment of screens around us.

And social media is far more pernicious and addictive. Making us all babies in constant need of our pacifiers.

Modern man does not need these things, ------- they need us in order to remain relevant and monetised.
Hence the drive to make them as addictive as possible.

The effects are catastrophic but they enable the elites to herd humans in a way never before done as we lose touch with the simple presence of natural elements in our lives, and simple unadulterated human company : the very thing that sustains us as humans.

People arguing that its all okay because hey we can fight it with the Keto Diet that they've found on some app, or a cold shower app, or a Time Leverage app, or a new, even Newer, New-Fangled Approach to Life App at the dawn of this incredible, expanding, new age.. what is becoming the eternal present = those people I receive with skepticism.

They forget that in the recent past being happy and healthy and taking cold showers or eating healthily were mere grounders that people did without even thinking about them..
(let alone advertising those things)..
whilst they got on with the serious business of living and dying amongst the real, actual, physical people that they moved amongst and cared about.
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It's not impossible to function without one. It's far less convenient. But if you hate it so much, you could easily do it. I consider it a tool, and enjoy the convenience it entails.

As to AntoniusofEfa saying his modem project enabled women to stick their noses in their device more... yeah, but it may have also enabled the next Thomas Aquinas or John Chrysostom to do more research for their next masterwork. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. And smartphones don't make bored zombies, bored zombies look for enabling devices.

I repeat, if you want to live a life of 50s level tech and food, it's not that far out of your reach. Sure, you'll have to look hard for what you believe (but could never prove of course) to be a 50s style chick, but they are still out there. Some girls are repulsed by the thought of taking birth control, and the pill -- much more than the iPhone -- is the true neutron bomb of modern culture.

But the grass is not greener. Life is impotent striving mixed with humbling washouts. Whether you live screenless among head-covered women or image-bombarded among InstaThots.
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(11-20-2019 06:15 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 05:29 AM)notcha Wrote:  The only solution is forced sex camps where their sole purpose is to sexually please men from 18 years old onwards. Within a few months of this they would understand their true place and purpose on this earth. To open up their fucking legs and shut their wretched mouths. Any politician who proposed this, along with taking away female voting rights would win a fucking landslide.

You repulse me.

You're happy with females voting? it's the biggest mistake of the last 60 years.
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Turning women into fluffers is as much against nature and civilization as feminism. Both concepts are retarded. Also, your power fantasies provide more ammunition for feminists who want to attribute masculinity to sexual violence and atrocity.
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(11-21-2019 07:39 AM)dAversa Wrote:  Turning women into fluffers is as much against nature and civilization as feminism. Both concepts are retarded. Also, your power fantasies provide more ammunition for feminists who want to attribute masculinity to sexual violence and atrocity.

Every time I've slapped or choked a woman during fornication she has only given one response...'do it harder'
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Delete. Lost my train of thought.

After talking to a young lady for a while, she told me “Even though your skin is black, I can tell your heart is white.”
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