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Phnom Penh, Cambodia Data Sheet 2014
The capitals of Southeast and East Asia contains much that glitters and is modern, in cities like KL, Bangkok, Singapore, Tokyo, BJ, and so forth. The second tier capitals such as Jakarta and Manila have their share of modern skyscrapers and have seen major financial influx from China and the West among other places, and its reflected in their demographics and infrastructure. Clinging to the final rung of the third tier, below other third tier capitals like Hanoi, is Phnom Penh. However, despite the lack of modernization, there is much to recommend PP as a place to visit and a place to which to relocate.

Formerly under the dominion of the French (after many hundreds of years of fighting with SE Asian rival civilizations), PP still has the look to some degree of the colonialization from French influence. Even though in the 1970s a lot of the city was razed under Pol Pot’s extermination of the intellectual class (over 1,000,000 Cambodians were killed by their own people, mostly urban Cambodians), the city still has a feel like many cities where the French exerted their influence, leaving two and three story european looking buildings with small balconies with wrought-iron gating. In many ways, PP evokes Hanoi, a city with a similar history of colonialism, though the French were far less interested in maintaining their presence in PP.

At the same time, the other overwhelming non-Cambodian influence in PP is from China. Ethnic Chinese have been in Cambodia, resettled, for many generations, just like those in Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia and other SE Asian countries. Estimates are that 50 percent of Cambodians are some part ethnic Chinese, and that influence is exerted around PP very obviously, I would say on a stronger level than experienced in Bangkok. This is something to keep in mind when visiting PP, and I’ll go into more detail later.

As a preface, I’ll mention that my primary reason to go to PP was to look at their textiles industry, particularly silk. Cambodia silk is of exceptional quality for the price, and its something worth considering having a look at if you visit, if only for gifts. Cambodia has a rapidly growing and largely under regulated economy, and also has significant tax benefit from Europe and elsewhere for export because of its third world status. I think there is a lot of business opportunity in Cambodia, and the field, despite the presence of the Chinese, is still fairly wide-open.

Of course, we’re not hear to talk about that.

Logistics

When you arrive in PP airport (two hrs and 15 in the air from Hong Kong), you’ll arrive directly into immigration. Assuming you’re from a visa-on-arrival country like me, you’ll queue on the left hand side with 20$ in hand and a passport sized picture of yourself that you should bring with you. You hand those to the clerk with your passport, and then proceed to the line in front of the desk immediately to the left. They’ll call your name a few minutes later, give you your passport back. Go through immigration check, and then past customs, and you’re in.

After passing customs, immediately on your left are several telecom operators selling sim cards. I myself used SMART, which I was familiar with from the Philippines (I’m guessing its the same company, but in any event I had no issue with the sim card or the data service - much of Cambodia is actually updated for very decent internet speeds and in my experience was far better than the Philippines). I bought for four days 5 dollars of data and 3 dollars for texting and calls, probably overkill but insignificant enough for me not to worry about the Delta.

After getting a sim, follow the walkway, turning left and you’ll find tuktuk hawkers, and taxi cabs. They’ll try to squeeze you for more, but for a foreigner $7 to riverside and $6 to Central Market area is more than fair (and probably double what locals might be paying). If you get too much flack and want to, its easiest enough to walk to the street past the parking lot in front of the hotel - once you’re in the middle of 20 tuktuk drivers, their negotiating becomes a lot easier going as they know they’ve competition.

The ride can be about 30 minutes to riverside, perhaps 5-7 less to Central Market. I found it quite enjoyable riding down Russian Federation Rd, a wide avenue with some park space along the way, surrounded by Cambodians on motorbikes. You’ll pass a bunch of luxury car dealerships on the way, which was a bit of a surprise until you’ve spent some time in PP and see all of the Range Rovers. I’ll note that on the way back to the airport after my trip, there was basically a minor wind storm that whipped up all the dust on the road into the tuktuk. Not that there’s much to do about this other than cover your mouth or take a proper taxi.

A note on currency- reals and US dollars are interchangeable. 4000 real is used as interchangeable for $1, in both directions. If you pay in dollars and the change is less than a dollar, expect to receive reals in exchange (i.e. 3000 for 75 cents, etc.).

With respect to taxis and tuks generally, for short rides, taxis will actually be cheaper assuming they use the meter. Tuks charge in increments of $1 and the taxis do not. On longer rides, I think Tuks are cheaper if you’re paying what you should be paying. Spend a little bit of time in PP and you’l get a sense of the cost -10 minutes should be around $2. 15 minutes, maybe $3. Often its best to just hand them the money after the ride, unless you feel like you need to negotiate before or you don’t have any clues how far you’re going. When you’ve arrived, just give them the appropriate amount - they’ll usually wont say anything. Most of them will be happy to wait for you if you want them to- the additional price should be marginal if you decide that while you’re having lunch you’d like them to wait for you.

I stayed near the Central Market, which is a pretty big landmark area. I booked a hotel called LeBiz through my points hound account (if you PM me I'll send you my referral link which gives bonus miles ontop of your rental to both of us) - which gave me 1100 frequent flyer points for booking this hotel on the network of my choice. I paid 48 per night for 4 nights, and the room was modern, a large waterfall shower with hot water, clean, decent internet in the room (better in the lobby) and a basic breakfast included. Always friendly staff (Cambodian staff, not the foreigner owner) and always had tuks waiting outside though they’ll try to get you for the foreigner rate. It was two blocks walk to Central Market, which was a designation for business, but also has very good bbq seafood and fresh fruit, along with a million stalls selling gems (fake and real) silk, tourist junk, etc. Of the PP markets, though, more foreigners visit Central, which is closer to the foreigner epicenter that is riverside. As a result, prices are higher in Central for somethings, and more english is spoken. Other markets, such as Olympic (near the stadium) and ORussey (which is a bit south from Central Market, maybe 10 minutes walk) have less english and lower prices. They are interesting to visit and definitely grittier, especially ORussey.

Riverside is perhaps five to seven minutes further west of Central Market max. It has hotels and guest houses ranging from $10 up to several hundred per night, and is also nearest to the Palace, one of the major sightseeing spots in PP. More bars, girlie bar, bar girls, and pricier restaurants abound, but hopefully Beyond can drop some intel on some less expensive dining options Riverside. Near Central Market I’ll mention Samdoo, a good and cheapish Chinese restaurant on Street 128. I ate there three times in four days.

The Riverside isn’t particularly scenic, and the river itself is brown and drab and quite dirty, a lot like what you may have seen in India. Its not like Thailand as a secondary source of transportation (or primary). Riverside also has far more beggars and street kids than other areas. Some streets feel like the rest of PP, and some streets feel like Nana in Bangkok. Further south on the Riverside, the area is less touristy and more laid back, with mostly locals and cheaper prices. I think long term that might be a better place to stay than north riverside which is catering to foreigners, at least for those on a stricter budget.

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The girls in Phnom Penh are quite varied in looks, from skinny to a bit voluptuous with the occasional fatty, and from more thai/SE asia looking to Chinese looking. The last night, the girl I hung with pretty much looked latina, but light skinned. Actually she was a solid 8/9, but I didn’t close it because I couldn’t be sure that she didn’t want money - her english was crap and we (BB and I) knew that all of those girls worked at a KTV and were off for the night. This girl realistically reminded me of Jessica Alba, not quite on that level, but very good looking face and physique.

The girls themselves tend to have a mix of characteristics between Northern Vietnam and Thailand. They’re friendly in general like Thais to foreigners, but much shyer in nature and more conservative like Vietnamese girls. I also found they look a bit more like Vietnamese girls, though I haven't been all around Thailand, just a few spots. Finding a Cambodian girl for a hookup during a short stay is definitely doable, but for a quick jaunt through the city, you’re more likely heading towards finding a shore-able part time bar girl or something along those lines. BB can throw down some Khmer and probably has more game than many of us, and thus between the local vibe and that he can close quicker. However, in any third world country the line between working and not working is blurry, and I think anyone of experience in third world countries would admit that they aren’t 100 percent sure about 100 percent of their notches - to be otherwise is to deceive yourself.

In the four nights we did several different restaurants, a few bars including a Bia Hoy (like Vietnam street beer) roadside place, several clubs including for a fashion show, the club at the casino Naga World, Darlin Darlin (also mostly filled with pros but some tourists and maybe barang hunters too) and the notorious hooker bars Pontoon and Heart of Darkness (though Heart has somewhat had a change of heart now and hosts a mixed crowd, one night was mostly gay I think, we didn’t stay and the other had a feeling more like it was Pontoon). Pontoon itself has two rooms, loads of foreigners, girls and guys (backpackers or dudes looking to lighten their wallets). My notch came from a Pontoon shore, half-Singaporean girl/half Cambodian. BB if he likes can share the story of why these girls were “scared” of him.Angel Anyway, this girl, for whatever reason, looked almost Japanese to me, very tiny spinner with a tight body.

She was very standoffish at first, especially for a bargirl because of the aforementioned issue with my drinking companion. In any event, when I spoke to her in my terrible Chinese thats when she warmed up and then I laid it on thick Chinese style. From that point on, it was easy, like rolling downhill. Besides I’m sure my hotel is a much better place to sleep than wherever she lived in PP. I ended up taking her and two other BB-refugees to a late night Chinese restaurant not far from PP tower, very good seafood, and then the girl (just one) back to mine.

The first night we saw a live band play at a club, Code Red, that was 99 percent Cambodian. Good talent levels, but all tables and breaking in wasn’t likely to be a same night thing, and I was pretty exhausted from the travel. As I mentioned before, the last night we went to a club more oriented towards Cambodian girls who are interested in Barangs (unlike the first night) but I was stuck on a work call with the US and I didn’t arrive til perhaps 2AM. We found the KTV girls there and then ended up bouncing to Heart with them, as this place was basically emptying out. There were some mixed couples in that place, and I think BB was right in saying that seems to be the best place to find a non-pro. I did open another girl in that place before moving onto the KTV girls, but she had a ladyboy vibe and strong jawbone. I asked BB for assurance, and he agreed it was a bit close to tell - that was enough reason. I may have left one there, but I’ll steer a wide course around that type of potential encounter.

Prices

Costs are low for basic living. Getting around is very cheap. Decent guesthouses with internet are $10 per night without committing to a long term rental. Double that would move you somewhere more desirable and perhaps more polished.

Food prices range from a cheap meal of $1-2, the aforementioned BBQ of shrimp/squid (with steamed rice and some raw vegetables) was perhaps $6-7 (Samdoo was around the same price, perhaps a bit more), and the japanese place we ate was around $25 per man, but it was fine dining and we had a bottle of wine. THere’s also a great bar on top of the Phnom Penh tower, Eclipse Sky Bar, excellent date place with decent food - probably around 15-20 before drinks (say 5-6 per drink). I know riverside has some fancy french spots, but I didn’t go.

Language

Many Cambodians speak some english, some pretty well to excellently, though many do not. It seems that the language ability is definitely higher nearer to Riverside, not surprisingly and higher among younger people. Also I found a lot of people spoke some to a decent amount of Mandarin, particularly in the markets and more of the people middle aged or older. I don’t know that I encountered many younger cambodians speaking Chinese though there are a few. Sometimes Chinese was more effective as a way to communicate and negotiate, and everything (EVERYTHING) is negotiable from the markets, it seems, as in other aspects of the city.

Overall, I found PP to be a very pleasant city to visit, and a decent location for someone on a limited but location independent budget. I don’t think I’d live there forever, but the locals are friendly and not ethnocentric like their Thai cousins to anywhere near a degree, prices are lower for many things than BKK central areas, traffic isn’t bad and generally logistics are ok. Its a worthy entry to being on the map as a possibility for expatriates who walk just a little bit on the wild side.

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(07-16-2014 04:41 AM)G_global Wrote:  The first night we saw a live band play at a club, Code Red, that was 99 percent Cambodian. Good talent levels, but all tables and breaking in wasn’t likely to be a same night thing, and I was pretty exhausted from the travel.

Great breakdown, G-Global.

That was not actually Code Red that you're referring to though. Code Red was another night and is more of a grunge underground music scene (though there was a show on the night we went so we didn't catch the usual DJ).

I'm going to refrain from leaving the correct name on the place you were referring to with the band because I go there so much and am the only regular foreigner that seems to do so. Just wanted to throw in the correction in case anyone went to hit up Code Red and wondered what you were talking about.

I'll expand on why those nice establishment (cough cough) girls were iffy about BB later, but at the moment a certain someone is peeking over the shoulder. Big Grin Not that she can read much English, but you never know...

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Yeah, sorry about that. I should have been more sensitive to privacy. My bad. Though calling you a REGULAR FOREIGNER might be a stretch razz

My breakdown derives entirely from your stewardship, so thanks for that, once again.

Asians really have a lower sense of personal space, I often get strangers looking over my shoulder at my phone or computer.

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Great write up G_ Global as usual!
I'm growing increasingly curious about PP, needless to say I'll definitely spend some time there thos fall.

Btw, is French spoken there? Can that be used in stores, hotels or girls in general?
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RE: Phnom Penh, Cambodia Data Sheet 2014
Update on Code Red. Still a different place then mentioned in the OP, but I may have done it a disservice by labeling it "grunge."

Popped back in there for some dancing and drinks and it's a very decent spot. Good for dancing if you're into just spacing out on some music or with a girl that likes to dance and the crowd is mixed between foreigners and some well-off Khmers. Great ambiance - very low light and decorated in black and red and lots of comforatble seating.

Always seems to have far less people than the place could accomodate, but I think it's still rather new. And the sparse crowd is kind of nice if you just want a chill night - not to mention that it makes it easy to talk to other groups. It maybe worth a look if you're in PP.

@VP Some definitely speak French and you'd get some ins here and there I think with girls that wanted to practice or show off.

Strong French influence here, as noted, and it blows my mind how many Cambodians are multilingual. I guess when you've got no cash and free or cheap schooling, you take advantage of that shit and take it seriously. Cambodians have a strong drive to be on the international map as well; knowing other languages opens doors for them.

Regarding the schooling and trying to do something with your life when you're poor, it's interesting to note that I've met a lot of Cambodian women who talk about wanting to wait until 30 or so for marriage. Because it's on them to use their education to provide their family with a better life (obviously poor girls).

Many of these same girls aren't fucking around though either; hence why marriage is even a subject of discussion. I can respect that they aren't looking for hand-outs from some foreign guy and are instead trying to earn their own way. Props. Just found it interesting since it goes against the grain of what you usually see in poorer countries - young girls trying to settle down as quick as possible. I think it's because the country is growing so fast and the opportunity is so thick in the air. Everyone wants to hop on ASAP.

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I definitely agree with the fact that opportunity is thick in the air, in Phnom Penh at least. I haven't travelled around Cambodia at all, and I know the countryside is still desperately poor in most places. However, someone who spends time on the ground in PP could almost surely, if they're smart, grab a chunk of a developing industry. There's always the risk that a big Chinese or Japanese investor or company could come in and grab the market , but I think theres a very large vacuum waiting to be filled over the next five to fifteen years. PP will be a very different place, I am guessing, by then, though unfortunately, its likely a lot of it will be owned or controlled by foreigners (or at least not ethnic Cambodians, similar to Thailand).

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Also, with Thailand continuing to shoot itself in the foot with all these idiotic new visa crack downs and rules, I see a huge exodus with the masses heading to Cambodia.
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(07-16-2014 10:32 PM)Kdog Wrote:  Also, with Thailand continuing to shoot itself in the foot with all these idiotic new visa crack downs and rules, I see a huge exodus with the masses heading to Cambodia.

I fucking hope not.
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Lol me too. I've just been reading some of the Thailand expat forums and a lot of them are praising Cambo as the next place. Easy Visa rules and whatnot.
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This is already in full process and will just reach another high.

I found that the city center of Phnom Penh has already grown 100 percent compared to 2-3 years ago. And almost all of the long-term expats I came along have been living in Thailand before...

Nothing to worry about in my eyes. For our generations there are still more than enough undeveloped shitholes for everybody, who really wants to get off the beaten track.
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^ Exactly, even in Cambodia there are plenty of other smaller cities to get off the track should PP blow up. Not to mention all the other countries in the world.

These people need the money; while I like it the way it is now and understand the sentiment, I'm not going to wish for them to hide in obscurity. If they are smart they'll embrace the open door policy for foreigners and take full advantage. It does get old seeing some of the riffraff that shows up, but what can you do?

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(07-17-2014 04:33 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  It does get old seeing some of the riffraff that shows up, but what can you do?

I may be a little bit rough around the edges, but don't you think you're being a bit harsh ?Angel

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^ No. Wink

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Thanks for the post. A very interesting datasheet on a location that has not been covered in much detail here on RVF.
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Thank you for this data sheet! Don't have the time to read it just yet, but I'm going to phnom penh for three months starting in September. Will post back with questions.
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Hello Guys , i will be here on Sundays if some Guys want to meet up for a drink and party .

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Since this thread has been resurrected, I'd like to ask if any of you guys that have been there have run into foreign NGO workers in Phnom Penh.

If so, what is your impression of them? I'm imagining a scenario where they are all young 20-somethings on a high-horse there for the feminist cause and facebook likes.

I will be infiltrating their ranks, and will be living and working among them. With my behavior, it could at some point lead to my ostracization if I don't tread lightly Confused
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(09-11-2014 12:03 PM)Laurifer Wrote:  Since this thread has been resurrected, I'd like to ask if any of you guys that have been there have run into foreign NGO workers in Phnom Penh.

If so, what is your impression of them? I'm imagining a scenario where they are all young 20-somethings on a high-horse there for the feminist cause and facebook likes.

I will be infiltrating their ranks, and will be living and working among them. With my behavior, it could at some point lead to my ostracization if I don't tread lightly Confused

Yeah, I've run into quite a few of them. Some of them seemed pretty level-headed and humble, and they've been of all age levels and professional backgrounds. I also meet a lot of locals that work with the NGOs, and maybe that helps keep them grounded, but then again, that's probably the case everywhere.

Maybe just show up and go meet some of these groups before making any decisions and that will give you a chance to gauge what you're getting yourself into.

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(09-11-2014 11:51 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Yeah, I've run into quite a few of them. Some of them seemed pretty level-headed and humble, and they've been of all age levels and professional backgrounds. I also meet a lot of locals that work with the NGOs, and maybe that helps keep them grounded, but then again, that's probably the case everywhere.

Maybe just show up and go meet some of these groups before making any decisions and that will give you a chance to gauge what you're getting yourself into.

Glad to hear that.

I think there's a good chance I could be placed in a project that deals with gender violence and equality, which is why I asked that question. I don't really want to be put in that one, although I'm sure such a program has more merit in Cambodia than it would in the West.

Just trying to gauge what I might be getting myself into. Either way, I'll get along well enough.

Thanks!
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How do women looks wise compare to Phils ? How about weed, I hear cops don't care.... Is quality any good ?
09-19-2014 09:24 AM
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(09-19-2014 09:24 AM)ballybally Wrote:  How do women looks wise compare to Phils ? How about weed, I hear cops don't care.... Is quality any good ?

There are a couple of pizza places right on the riverfront in PP that will cook weed into the pizza for you... just look for the pizza places that have "happy" in their name. Also right in front of these places are tuk tuk drivers who sell it, so it's not hard to find there and no the cops don't care. I wouldn't call the quality good by Western standards, but it's good enough.
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RE: Phnom Penh, Cambodia Data Sheet 2014
Ok now i will be back to Phnom Penh in a few hours from Siem Reap


I am going out for only a few places In Phnom Penh .

a beer girl ,i meet in a khmer restaurant take me out

She take me to Casa

Only pro there but Some of them are really pretty even if i am not interested by asian girl .The population is mostly chinese .

have been to ponton , i think the quality is better in Casa . More "white" people than in Casa .

The price is around the same for both of them 5 dollard for a cocktail

Now in Siem Reap ,i have been to one bar and the night club called Hip Hop .
Full of cambodgian men .
i dont think the nightlife is great here but angkor wat really deserve a trip by himself

this is a quick report ,i will post later a more detail report
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RE: Phnom Penh, Cambodia Data Sheet 2014
Rolled with some HISO girls yesterday in PP. We lived in the middle of the bar area, just next to Pontoon. At the hotel, i met some rich russian and a french guy living off of his parents dollars. They knew the owner of the hotel, which was a legit 9. I guessed she was a pro, but apperently she was just rich. So me and my friend rode with the 9 and her little sister, also 9, to Code Red ind their brand new big ass Audi. The russians and the french took a moto. At the club the french bought us a bottle, but the girls were to opsessed with their iPhone 6's. The club was still dead around midnight.

Later they left, and we went to Pontoon. 8$ cover and it was packed. I have never in my life seen so many sexy girls at the same place. Of course the were pros, but i wanted to give it a shot anyways. I got grinded by the best ass, and i almost wanted to pay, but naah. When i said i dont pay, the girls left.

PP is booming right now, alot of money comming through.
But im curious. Anybody dealt with HISO SEA girls and had succes? And what about shoring in SEA, i could need some tips
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I'm jealous seabridge. I wanna hang with the high rollers in phnom penh too!

I know a Malaysian girl that was hanging out with a high level officer in the military, he was literally letting her handle various kinds of guns and rode around phnom penh with him in his range rover going to high class restaurants etc.
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(11-15-2014 07:10 AM)seabridge Wrote:  ...
But im curious. Anybody dealt with HISO SEA girls and had succes? And what about shoring in SEA, i could need some tips

Did you miss that epic thread?
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-20433.html
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