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(12-29-2015 07:38 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Got heated but I stood my ground. Now none of them try that shit with me anymore. In alot of ways doing that was a boon for me. I have a much higher leadership status in the family on both sides. I am far from perfect, but with God's help I will attain the rank of spiritual authority/leader and hopefully set the stage for the future generation of my family on both sides. It's gotta start with someone. Wisdom is burdensome. Are any of you willing to take up that yoke?

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I've thought about this, how can we prevent her from being corrupted by the west?
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(06-02-2019 06:16 AM)Georgepithyou Wrote:  I've thought about this, how can we prevent her from being corrupted by the west?

I heard an interesting theory/solution regarding this timeless problem ^. I can't remember exactly who said it... from memory it may have been Coach Red Pill, Owen Benjamin, Gavin McInnes or someone like that... I'll paraphrase:

If you take a more traditional woman from her country to the west, the best way to protect her from being corrupted by toxic western culture and being ruined by femmunism is to impregnate her as many times as possible. The higher the number of children that she has to care for and raise in the next 20+ years will make a higher probability that she will so busy and being a homemaker and mother that she won't have time to be getting indoctrinated at her corporate job, watching propaganda TV/social media, sipping strawberry daiquiris with her spinster girlfriends, or talking on the phone to her post-wall cat-lady friends.

Of course this theory assumes that the woman truly is traditional and conservative in the first place, and wants nothing more than to be a mother/wife to begin with.

Social circle and propaganda intake is a huge component of corrupting the mind. So if you can control those things to some extent, then it puts up a good fight.
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(06-02-2019 10:03 PM)Jungle Wrote:  
(06-02-2019 06:16 AM)Georgepithyou Wrote:  I've thought about this, how can we prevent her from being corrupted by the west?

I heard an interesting theory/solution regarding this timeless problem ^. I can't remember exactly who said it... from memory it may have been Coach Red Pill, Owen Benjamin, Gavin McInnes or someone like that... I'll paraphrase:

If you take a more traditional woman from her country to the west, the best way to protect her from being corrupted by toxic western culture and being ruined by femmunism is to impregnate her as many times as possible. The higher the number of children that she has to care for and raise in the next 20+ years will make a higher probability that she will so busy and being a homemaker and mother that she won't have time to be getting indoctrinated at her corporate job, watching propaganda TV/social media, sipping strawberry daiquiris with her spinster girlfriends, or talking on the phone to her post-wall cat-lady friends.

Of course this theory assumes that the woman truly is traditional and conservative in the first place, and wants nothing more than to be a mother/wife to begin with.

Social circle and propaganda intake is a huge component of corrupting the mind. So if you can control those things to some extent, then it puts up a good fight.

I would also add something. You have to take her divorced friends out of her life. The caveat is for her friends who left truly horrible relationships - but even then its suspect.

You need to subtly guide her friendships with the good women around her. This is where it helps to have experience with women. You can see through a lot of their lies and manipulation and can steer your wife away from them.

She will want to spend time around women of her culture, so it helps to have a good understanding of how they are so you can be a part of the friendship facilitating.
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If you bring a conservative woman from a conservative culture here to the west you have a year or two( if you are lucky) before western culture perverts and destroys her values. You cannot defeat social media and the overwhelming influence of degeneracy in the west while actually in the west- I have seen it happen personally with my own eyes. Remember Instagram is the devil, and Tinder is even worse.....by Design.

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I agree with Atlanta. Being married in the West regardless where you picked her up from is a bad investment today. There's an agenda going on to get the masculine men out of the family homes and allow the female hive mind to go rampant. Both are destructive to society. You want to play that game, be prepared to get dragged around by the State and learn the hard way. That contract is between 3 parties. You, her, and the State.

Men need to wake up and realize that marriage is simply an outdated construct. Women today make equal money, bombarded with constant validation through social media likes, and don't even know how to cook a basic meal. They are losing the ability to pairbond.

This traditional lifestyle you saw in the past don't exist today thanks to feminism and social media.
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(06-03-2019 01:44 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  Men need to wake up and realize that marriage is simply an outdated construct. Women today make equal money, bombarded with constant validation through social media likes, and don't even know how to cook a basic meal. They are losing the ability to pairbond.

This traditional lifestyle you saw in the past don't exist today thanks to feminism and social media.

This. Banana

Marriage used to work because men and women had strictly defined gender roles and no-fault divorce did not even come into play until starting around 1969 in California. As a consequence, men and women both needed each other, which kept their behavior in check and as a consequence were forced to make the relationship work (at least in theory).

Now days she can press the divorce eject button at any time, for any reason or no reason at all. Or she can stay in the relationship but do a complete 180 in personality and the princess you thought you married quickly turns into Medusa the Witch.

The problem is, it's almost impossible to gauge how a woman will act and change once she becomes married with kids.
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(06-03-2019 12:16 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  If you bring a conservative woman from a conservative culture here to the west you have a year or two( if you are lucky) before western culture perverts and destroys her values. You cannot defeat social media and the overwhelming influence of degeneracy in the west while actually in the west- I have seen it happen personally with my own eyes. Remember Instagram is the devil, and Tinder is even worse.....by Design.

If she's on IG she is exclusively entertainment vagina. If she's not on social media when you import her then you need to inoculate her against it before she ever gets on it via dread game, good D sessions, and buns in the oven.

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(06-03-2019 02:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 12:16 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  If you bring a conservative woman from a conservative culture here to the west you have a year or two( if you are lucky) before western culture perverts and destroys her values. You cannot defeat social media and the overwhelming influence of degeneracy in the west while actually in the west- I have seen it happen personally with my own eyes. Remember Instagram is the devil, and Tinder is even worse.....by Design.

If she's on IG she is exclusively entertainment vagina. If she's not on social media when you import her then you need to inoculate her against it before she ever gets on it via dread game, good D sessions, and buns in the oven.

"Idle hands are the devil's playthings". Benjamin Franklin

"An idle uterus is even more dangerous"...PapayaTapper

Ha! That is one for the wall at work.

I never let my wife fuck around with instagram much. No selfies, no photos of us, none of our lives on ig stories. She doesn't seem to care much, except when it comes to kid pictures.

I - and she agrees too - have a very strict "No Kid Photos on Social Media" policy. But being a mother, she is so in love with her offspring that she gushes out some of it in the form of photos, and I can see it visibly tear at her morals by not putting it on line for other moms to get jealous about - and by extension, cause them to post more kid photos.

Idle hands, no matter how little, has something to do with it. Idle womb, yes for sure. The rest is just seeing her friends get likes for cute or funny shit their kids do. It begs the question, Does one even have a kid if the internet doesn't record it?
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My "Plan B", in list form:

1. Find a girl abroad, 18-23. Hopefully she has some sort of transferrable career (IT, medicine.)
2. Date for 6-12 months abroad, bring her over. Date for another two years in the US before any marriage plans
3. Bring her parents over, move them in to watch the house and children (and their daughter).
4. Knock her up 3-5 times
5. Figure out a way to hide 75% of my assets in case of a divorce.

The parents are key in this process, because they keep tabs on her behavior and can give lifelong babysitters for us. I want my wife to work and bring in 80-150k a year.

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(12-28-2015 08:54 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  
(12-28-2015 08:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(12-28-2015 07:36 PM)Onto Wrote:  By all means though, give your wife the freedom of western culture. A career, her own friends (guys included), happy hours with her co-workers, girls night out, and all the rest. See how it goes. And what's the harm in a TV show anyway? Or a movie? It's just a story. Doesn't mean anything. It won't raise questions in her or give answers, right?

So the answer is light imprisonment?

You find your Svetlana in Odessa, bring her back her at the ripe age of 20.
Knock her up, and have her live in your house out in the burbs.

Far from friends and family, in a new culture, trapped in some suburb with children, while you're out working (and presumably getting some on the side)

That's game?

Hell no, it isn't.

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Yea, keep her in a cage in the basement. Every once in a while, presumably you let her out to cook and clean. That's exactly what's being advocated. Come on, no need to gaslight here.

Ironically, my uncle did something pretty close to what you're satirically describing. I already spoke about this in the thread I linked to:

Quote:My uncle, in his 50s at the time, brought over a Ukranian woman at maybe 20 years old who barely spoke any English. She seemed shy, but was a great cook and cleaned. My female relatives were up in arms, treating her and my uncle with contempt. Not because she was a bad woman, but looking back on it, because they didn't want any of their men to start getting the same idea.

Fast forward to today, he's in his late 60s and she's just turning 30. They just had a kid together. They look happy. How is this possible? I would venture a few guesses. My uncle is an attorney specializing in family and immigration law. That's a kind of soft power, where my aunt knows that whatever she'd try to pull, he'd be 3 steps ahead of her. The other thing is, she works for him as an assistant in his firm. It's just them. He's the boss, and because they spend all day together, he doesn't have to worry about her getting close with coworkers.

He's much older, but also has kept up pretty well for his age, and he's a charmer. They live out in the suburbs so her options aren't as wide. It could all change tomorrow, but she seems to have kept most of her old world values, and I think there's a decent chance it'll work out.

Thing is, she seems happier than most western women her age that I've met. She does have friends- my uncle's friends and family, some of which get along better now with her than they do my uncle. She does work- for my uncle, but now she's devoted to being a mother, and seems ecstatic about it. She does have entertainment- She seems introverted by nature, and happy enough to read Tolstoy and Dostoevsky.

But I guess she'd be better off out getting shitfaced and riding the carousel, eventually coming home to her family of cats when the music stops? Because that would probably be her endgame if my uncle was a pushover and indulged every one of her whims.

I think this was possible a long time ago.

But with IG, it's just a matter of time before a richer or younger guy comes along and swoops her away. Speaking from personal experience.
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Even women in rural areas have access to internet and smartphones, what's stopping an attractive women from getting the attention of many thirsty guys on instagram?

What can you do? Take away her internet and phone? Treat her like a prisoner?

Like most here I want a healthy relationship with a good woman, It isn't much to ask but social media and feminism have taken that away.
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(06-05-2019 11:13 PM)Georgepithyou Wrote:  Even women in rural areas have access to internet and smartphones, what's stopping an attractive women from getting the attention of many thirsty guys on instagram?

What can you do? Take away her internet and phone? Treat her like a prisoner?

Like most here I want a healthy relationship with a good woman, It isn't much to ask but social media and feminism have taken that away.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's one thing to have internet, it's another to be surrounded by bad influences (people).

That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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(06-04-2019 11:53 PM)Graft Wrote:  My "Plan B", in list form:

1. Find a girl abroad, 18-23. Hopefully she has some sort of transferrable career (IT, medicine.)
2. Date for 6-12 months abroad, bring her over. Date for another two years in the US before any marriage plans
3. Bring her parents over, move them in to watch the house and children (and their daughter).
4. Knock her up 3-5 times
5. Figure out a way to hide 75% of my assets in case of a divorce.

The parents are key in this process, because they keep tabs on her behavior and can give lifelong babysitters for us. I want my wife to work and bring in 80-150k a year.

That sounds incredibly complicated. Why not simplify the whole process and live in her country, raise the kids, and stay near her parents where they live?
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^ Steps 2 and 3 are very difficult for visa reasons.

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(06-05-2019 11:13 PM)Georgepithyou Wrote:  Even women in rural areas have access to internet and smartphones, what's stopping an attractive women from getting the attention of many thirsty guys on instagram?

What can you do? Take away her internet and phone? Treat her like a prisoner?

Like most here I want a healthy relationship with a good woman, It isn't much to ask but social media and feminism have taken that away.

Yes they have access but they dont use it like western woman do if the girl is truly conservative which op is after. I am in morocco now and have met and spoken to a few traditional conservative girls.
I am speaking to cute girls who do not even have instagram accounts.... cute 20 year olds with no instagram accounts...

And i am also speaking to other cute girls who have instagram accounts but zero face pictures of them on it.

But instead a bunch of quotes . and some of them say stuff like

"If you are truly love a girl you will wait. Then you know its true love.


They think that if a man loves a woman . truly loves a woman, he will wait a year or 2 with no sex to prove his love to her that he is willing to wait lol. they have this mindset some of them... but this is like 20% of the population. other 80% is westernized.

if you go for this 20% of the population you can find yourself a good conservative girl with values.



There seems to be a mix of woman here though not all of them are like this. only 20%.


These are real traditional good woman.


but the problem with wife hunting abroad is most girls dont want to go to america or europe. there seems to be a stereotype where woman want the greencard or want to go to america... They dont. they are family oriented most of them.... Its mostly the men who want to go to america or europe for the job opportunties. a lot of guys i meet want to go there. but woman? all the woman i met want to stay with their family in their home country ... so bringing them to america may have problems in the long run... it will change them when they miss their family and need to adapt to a diff culture with no friends etc.
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The problem isn't necessarily that the foreign wife gets "corrupted." It's that the SMV equation changes. Guys tend to go abroad and find a hotter and younger wife than they could get in the U.S. To the woman at that time, it seems like a good deal, as his SMV is bolstered by his passport, his resources, his exotic factor, or whatever. Her SMV in her home country may be middle-of-the-road, since lots of her compatriots are hot and there's not much obesity.

When she arrives in the U.S., his artificial boost disappears. Her SMV, meanwhile, shoots through the roof. Attractive, slim feminine foreign women get attention. She automatically starts looking around to see what her options are. The West being what it is, her options are many.

I don't care how "alpha" you are or how good your frame is; that tendency to scan her new environment for other options is her nature. The "corruption" you fear is baked in.
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(10-16-2019 02:22 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  The problem isn't necessarily that the foreign wife gets "corrupted." It's that the SMV equation changes. Guys tend to go abroad and find a hotter and younger wife than they could get in the U.S. To the woman at that time, it seems like a good deal, as his SMV is bolstered by his passport, his resources, his exotic factor, or whatever. Her SMV in her home country may be middle-of-the-road, since lots of her compatriots are hot and there's not much obesity.

When she arrives in the U.S., his artificial boost disappears. Her SMV, meanwhile, shoots through the roof. Attractive, slim feminine foreign women get attention. She automatically starts looking around to see what her options are. The West being what it is, her options are many.

I don't care how "alpha" you are or how good your frame is; that tendency to scan her new environment for other options is her nature. The "corruption" you fear is baked in.

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(10-16-2019 04:21 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Get her pregnant, and keep her pregnant

Not a solution at all. Women with kids cheat all the time. Go look at the /survivinginfidelity section on Reddit. Sometimes they're doing their affair partner in one room while their kids play in another. Frequently they unload the husband, then shack up with the affair partner, kids in tow.
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Wish I could create a time machine, travel back to the pre-pill era and live happily ever after in the hills from the sound of music with a traditional, honest, loyal wife. Fuck this gay earth.
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(10-16-2019 02:22 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  The problem isn't necessarily that the foreign wife gets "corrupted." It's that the SMV equation changes. Guys tend to go abroad and find a hotter and younger wife than they could get in the U.S. To the woman at that time, it seems like a good deal, as his SMV is bolstered by his passport, his resources, his exotic factor, or whatever. Her SMV in her home country may be middle-of-the-road, since lots of her compatriots are hot and there's not much obesity.

When she arrives in the U.S., his artificial boost disappears. Her SMV, meanwhile, shoots through the roof. Attractive, slim feminine foreign women get attention. She automatically starts looking around to see what her options are. The West being what it is, her options are many.

I don't care how "alpha" you are or how good your frame is; that tendency to scan her new environment for other options is her nature. The "corruption" you fear is baked in.

^Very accurate

The same thing happens with immigrant couples who move to the west. The dynamic changes and the wife/GF has new and better options than in the home country (if they are from 2nd or 3rd world). I have witnessed this play out in real life. Female's looks are her main SMV and the west is for women like Thailand is for western men.
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Is it even possible to marry a "conservative' woman as a foreigner?
Do you think conservative woman would go for some foreigner who doesn't speak her language and is not part of her culture?

What many Westerners fail to realize when they get one a foreign women is that they are getting low hanging fruit, loosest, sluttiest ones and LEAST conservative type.
Every time you see black or anglo guy with EE girl you know whats going on there, he might be happy with the catch and think "she is good conservative girl', in most cases local guys would laugh behind his back if he is to marry such a girl.
If you bring her back to the West she will get bored with typical suburban life and start scewing around with other high SMV guys, after all you did not get a traditional girl, try to psychoanalyze a woman who is ready to leave her family, friends and tribe for some random dude, what makes you think she wont leave you for some Chad on Insta when relationship gets dull?
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The best is to bring a girl to a much poorer and conservative place that where she grew up.
Albania is in many ways more "backwards" than Ukraine (my wife s home nation) when it comes to wedding , divorce , drinking etc

I know one woman here who divorced and raised a kid by herself. She is a persona non-grata in her family and in her village. Everyone calls her a whore.

She was beaten up , so I have compassion for her. For me , beating up and alcoholism , drug abuse , or other type of sexual abuse , are a reason to divorce. All the rest is just literature.

We should start to look bad at women who divorce for no reason and tell them the ugly truth in their face : Yes , if you divorce for no real reason , you are a bitch.

Bringing a woman in the West is suicidal. I have millions of examples in the west and in normal (central european) countries of women divorcing for virtually zero reasons. Why do we even accept this ?
They would never dare to do it if we were tougher.

All this degenerate feminism is weakening our entire civilisation
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10-20-2019 09:17 AM
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RE: Marrying conservative women from abroad and bringing them over to the west
I'm surprised that no one has talked about finding a girl in a non western country, and then going to live in another non western country.

That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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10-20-2019 10:08 AM
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RE: Marrying conservative women from abroad and bringing them over to the west
I think quite a few have, Vlad

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10-20-2019 03:59 PM
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