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RE: Feminist writer thinks gym-toned men are a huge turn-off
she is basically saying that she is intimidated by men who are in good shape because she knows she is inferior.

thats the real message, and its a good one for her to explore
07-24-2014 01:10 PM
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RE: Feminist writer thinks gym-toned men are a huge turn-off
This isn't uncommon. I read once that there is a correlation between large breasts for women/muscles for men and lower levels of education. When I'm in Vegas, I see a lot lifters who look like high school douchebags.

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RE: Feminist writer thinks gym-toned men are a huge turn-off
She'd take skinny or chunky Chris Pratt in a second. He's just a tool for her justifcation.

It's hilarious how she justifies her own feelings by using Chris's wife's feelings. News flash, you aren't Anna Farris, you aren't Chris Pratt's wife, and you never will be. She locked down a successful Hollywood actor. You haven't. And of course Anna Farris likes him a little chunkier; she has a valid concern of him getting more attention from hot Hollywood babes.

She obviously doesn't understand she's comparing chubby schlubby Chris Pratt Hollywood star to some unattractive guy she's never heard of who "appears to spend a lot of time on treadmills and sunbeds". Women don't realize they find attractive traits in men to whom they're already attracted.

News flash women, allowing yourself to get fat and settling for chunkier guys won't get you chunky guys like the ol' Chris Pratt, it'll get you fucking losers. I'd even say it'd probably get you more skinny rail-thin guys than "chunky" guys.

The good news is, your dream of activities involving sitting or lying down, having delicious, boozy six-hour dinners, and weekend-long sexual marathons with bacon sandwiches...that's all possible in the comfort of your boyfriend's parents basement.

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(07-24-2014 02:02 PM)lowbudgetballer Wrote:  This isn't uncommon. I read once that there is a correlation between large breasts for women/muscles for men and lower levels of education. When I'm in Vegas, I see a lot lifters who look like high school douchebags.

Don't hate them, admire them for their discipline and learn from them.

I'm a big bastard, know a lot of big bastards, and intelligence in the lifting area seems to be as evenly-distributed as the general population. Some morons, some geniuses, but I'd also argue that even the morons are smart enough to realise fitness gives you a huge life advantage.

I've met some deeply-intelligent girls - for girls - at the gym. They understand cause and effect. As Roosh mentioned above, all a University Education tends to do is produce lazy rationalisations and discourage self-improvement.

Also, I think this writer was trying to be funny and self-deprecating, but we won't see it, because it's Girl Humour.
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I hate attractive beautifully toned women.
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RE: Feminist writer thinks gym-toned men are a huge turn-off
I first started working out to impress girls, way back when. Then, I was doing it to get my body to look the way I wanted it to. Finally, I lifted just to lift. After a while, lifting is its own reward. Greatest part of my day.

Like pretty much everything in life, this is explained in Rocky 4.

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chicks complain about lifting too much anyway. You want to take them to the gym, they say they don't want to get big arms. It's always something. Starting to think women just hate the gym. Just this morning a girl told me she wouldn't date me if I was too "veiny". Just waiting for the day these girls will realise that anyone who has the discipline to workout that much doesn't care about their petty opinion
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(07-24-2014 05:30 PM)nogamenick Wrote:  Just this morning a girl told me she wouldn't date me if I was too "veiny".

If you DGAF: "Yeah, that's cool. I wouldn't want to date you if you were too 'chubby'."

Polite version: "So, you're a big believer in conditional love?"
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(07-24-2014 05:35 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 05:30 PM)nogamenick Wrote:  Just this morning a girl told me she wouldn't date me if I was too "veiny".

If you DGAF: "Yeah, that's cool. I wouldn't want to date you if you were too 'chubby'."

Polite version: "So, you're a big believer in conditional love?"

Of course I went with the first option.
No reason to be polite towards girls like these. Just 3 minutes before she was complaining about how her friends' boyfriend said he would leave her if she didn't lose weight. Oh the double standards
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Anyone young man that lifts and catches flak from women about your muscles should watch this video for how to respond to women. Especially at the 4:00 mark.





For those at work that cannot watch it. He says, "FUCK YOU, I don't lift weights for you! I do it for me!"

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RE: Feminist writer thinks gym-toned men are a huge turn-off
(07-24-2014 04:17 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 02:02 PM)lowbudgetballer Wrote:  This isn't uncommon. I read once that there is a correlation between large breasts for women/muscles for men and lower levels of education. When I'm in Vegas, I see a lot lifters who look like high school douchebags.

Don't hate them, admire them for their discipline and learn from them.

I'm a big bastard, know a lot of big bastards, and intelligence in the lifting area seems to be as evenly-distributed as the general population. Some morons, some geniuses, but I'd also argue that even the morons are smart enough to realise fitness gives you a huge life advantage.

I, myself, am a big bastard, and I've met intelligent people in gyms throughout my life. I'm referring to skinny guys who look like they don't lift weights yet push their elbows out like a high school kid trying to impress people with his (lack of) muscles. In the same restaurant to which I am referring, there was a thin-build guy with action figure arms. I thought that was somewhat impressive but wondered about the chemistry behind it.

I am forced by my physique push my arms out like said douchebags but try my best to downplay it. I developed decent posture over the years, but practicing yoga highly improved both posture and musculature.

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Quote:I'm a big bastard, know a lot of big bastards, and intelligence in the lifting area seems to be as evenly-distributed as the general population. Some morons, some geniuses, but I'd also argue that even the morons are smart enough to realise fitness gives you a huge life advantage.

Yep.

I frequent a couple of lifting clubs, where many of the members are PhDs (in STEM), doctors, lawyers, successful entrepreneurs, self-made millionaires, IBs etc.

It takes intelligence, discipline and dedication to get strong and built.

No comment on average bros at average commercial gyms. Never frequent one.

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How is letting yourself go equated with "being at ease" with your body? I am perfectly at ease with being jacked. And the girls I meet seem to be very at ease with it too.

A lot of people who devalue exercise value their intelligence instead, ignoring the fact that exercise is necessary for optimum brain functioning (see US presidents, CEOs, world leaders).
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I think it comes back to the growth vs. fixed mindset. Smart guys with a fixed mindset avoid the gym because they think their smarts are innate and enough to get them through life. Smart dudes with a growth mindset realize that their mental capacity is a muscle that needs to be trained and will quickly draw the connection to training other muscles.

The most effective guys I know are all in pretty good if not excellent shape.
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(07-27-2014 11:40 AM)Ensam Wrote:  I think it comes back to the growth vs. fixed mindset. Smart guys with a fixed mindset avoid the gym because they think their smarts are innate and enough to get them through life. Smart dudes with a growth mindset realize that their mental capacity is a muscle that needs to be trained and will quickly draw the connection to training other muscles.

The most effective guys I know are all in pretty good if not excellent shape.

I think you're slightly misrepresenting the fixed mindset there - it's more along the lines of this:

- Guys with a fixed mindset believe that their successes have come because they are better than everyone else. They avoid the gym because they realise they will not be the best when they start. People might see them struggle or fail. Those people will think they are failures. This will make them a failure.

- Guys with a growth mindset acknowledge their successes have come from starting small and working hard to improve themselves. They accept that they will struggle and fail at the start. They know that this is the price to pay for improvement and it doesn't make them a failure.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold
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This is equivalent to men who reject attractive women because deep down inside they are insecure about themselves to the point that they cannot get rejected if they do the rejection first.

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Have you ever noticed that at serious gyms, the men there are successful, self invented, self made, and of strong character? There is a reason behind this. The fact is you have to master the body, the mind, and the soul to be a complete man, and without one of those, you are only a shell. I don't meet too many losers that are in the game of improving themselves.

That being said, I personally would never care what a girl thought about my physique, because as many of you have said: I do this for me, not the girls that it indirectly makes interested in me, nor the girls that think it's unattractive. I have a vision of the man I want to be, and I couldn't care less what a subset of lazy fucks thinks. How often do you see a solid physique on a man at any given beach? How often do you see an average and skinny fat physique? I'd much rather be the outlier.

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What's funny is that it's usually the guys who have drive that build careers and struggle to succeed in the face of life's challenges, and it's usually the guys who have drive that work hard in the gym. There's a correlation between physical fitness and deeper attractiveness.

Me personally, I think feminist writers are a huge turn-off.
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Yep. As a 40-something that went from 198lbs +/-30% bf to 193lbs sub 10% bf, I can tell you it's fucking insane the reaction I get. Just wish I'd started lifting in my 20s - wouldn't be so hard to pack on lean mass. It's made a huge difference in everything in my life, career, relationship, I regularly get eye fucked, preselection is awesome. Female co-workers take liberties to touch my body that are HR actionable Smile My long term LTR partner has always said she loved my old body too - but she didn't run her hands over the old one the way she does the new one. She's also said in heated discussions that I'm getting buff to do better in the SMV when I "dump her". Dread FTW.

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(07-24-2014 12:24 PM)Mage Wrote:  This thread gave me an extra motivation to lift.

I second that.
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This is old news according to Dove.

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