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Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
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RE: Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
It's important to make a distinction between the state sponsoring terrorism and private individuals doing it. US citizens almost certainly sponsored the IRA but the US state did not. Of course when one family controls the country it can be hard to separate individual contributions from state sponsorship.
07-27-2014 11:21 AM
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RE: Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
How Saudi Arabia created ISIS in Iraq:



http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comm...02312.html

Quote: Dearlove's explosive revelation about the prediction of a day of reckoning for the Shia by Prince Bandar, and the former head of MI6's view that Saudi Arabia is involved in the Isis-led Sunni rebellion, has attracted surprisingly little attention. Coverage of Dearlove's speech focused instead on his main theme that the threat from Isis to the West is being exaggerated because, unlike Bin Laden's al-Qa'ida, it is absorbed in a new conflict that "is essentially Muslim on Muslim". Unfortunately, Christians in areas captured by Isis are finding this is not true, as their churches are desecrated and they are forced to flee. A difference between al-Qa'ida and Isis is that the latter is much better organised; if it does attack Western targets the results are likely to be devastating.
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07-27-2014 10:11 PM
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RE: Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
The Kingdom of Saud being in such a strategic position just sounds crazy to me, mainly because the assumption one would have to make in order to accept it, is that the people that inhibit Saudi Arabia are educated/wise/clever enough to be in such a position. Getting ahead in that part of Arabia is mostly through might, not cleverness.

I think this is a smoke screen. It's an interesting smoke screen, because it makes you wonder, but it's just a smoke screen.
07-28-2014 01:47 AM
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RE: Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
More than anything else - more than coverage of Wall Street or Israel or feminism or crime - coverage of Saudi Arabia makes me think we're in a oligarchically controlled media environment, things are not what they seem, and money rules.

The portion of the 9/11 Commission report dealing with Saudi connections is still sealed and classified, despite some members of Congress wanting it released.

Saudi Arabia is an ugly tyranny with a wasteful and hypocritical ruling family, which funds terrorism around the world, but they are our "allies?" WTF?
07-30-2014 06:53 AM
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RE: Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
(07-26-2014 09:59 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  but ask yourself this question: 15 of the 19 9/11 hjiackers were Saudi, Bin Laden was Saudi, and Al-Qaeda was funded by Saudi Arabia........... yet Saudi Arabia avoided having to take responsibility for 9/11........... Why?

The answer is that Saudi Arabia has extensive financial dealings with many important people in Washington DC, especially the Bush family. Very few people know how
extensive the financial dealings between the Saudi royal family and Bush family have been. Very few people know before George Bush ran for president, his political tutor
was Saudi Prince Bandar.

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Quote:House of Bush, House of Saud: The Secret Relationship Between the World's Two Most Powerful Dynasties is a 2004 book by Craig Unger that explores the relationship between the Saudi Royal Family and the Bush extended political family. Unger asserts that the groundwork for today's terrorist movements and the modern wars that have sprung up about them was unintentionally laid more than 30 years ago with a series of business deals between the ruling Saudis and the powerful Bush family. The Saudis received investments and military protection in exchange for cooperation on lucrative oil deals. The author claims that the result has been a shady alliance between "the world's two most powerful dynasties." Unger writes, "Never before has an American president been so closely tied to a foreign power that harbors and supports our country's mortal enemies."

Controversial documentary filmmaker Michael Moore's 2004 picture Fahrenheit 9/11 draws heavily on arguments made in Unger's book.[citation needed]

Someone gonna update this thread with a picture of Trump dancing hand in hand with the Sauds?

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06-24-2017 06:18 AM
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RE: Is Saudi Arabia the Master Manipulator of the Middle East?
Worth a peep.




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