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(07-30-2014 08:59 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(07-30-2014 08:41 AM)heavy Wrote:  If he wasn't an idiot, which he is usually, Stephen A would take this and run. He could be a dynamo for speaking truth.

He could do anything he wanted with his previous social / media status, and with this, he could turn this into a brand. But alas, he'll cower to the almighty pc-espn-media crowd and go back hat in hand, either to the mothership if they'll take him back or another sports network.

Unfortunately he's usually just so far from the truth.

Smith has valuable connections with many black athletes. Same goes for Mike Wilbon. ESPN know that they would instantly lose lots of exclusive interviews with many players by getting rid of either one of them every time they piss off the PC police. Like when Mike talked about one of the ladies skirts and boots. ESPN isn't that stupid. Smith could have his own show somewhere else and Bayless might even follow him. Those two are like Opie and Anthony Light Sports Edition, for the mainstream. That suspension is just for the heat to die off then it will be business as usual. Stuart Scott is fighting cancer right now. They cannot let the golden geese that they have left get chased off. PC be damned.

Micheal Irvin is the equivalent for the NFL network and Sapp is just another Charles Barkley for the NFL.

Good point about Smith's connections, I bet in some way he has more credibility with athletes. He said something athletes would catch so much shit for.

It takes two to tango, there are no victims in life. We choose to put ourselves in situations, we choose our actions. Was it the wisest thing for Ray Rice to punch the hoe? No. But it wasn't like everything was fine and he was like, "You know we need to spice things up, let me knock out my girlfriend, yaaa that will be a great idea. Let's make sure it is caught on video."

Plus, the hoe married the guy afterwards, you know she is insane. And smart in a way, since she is set for life if they don't piss the money away. And I bet he didn't get a good pre-nup or one at all, she had him by the balls.

People do stupid shit that causes more shit to happen. A guy walks into a bar and mouths off and gets punched. You don't think he created that mess? Spitting on a man is a big disrespect, and then to have a women do it? Well in this case she is a hoe not a woman or lady, but you get the point.

But ya, women never do anything stupid. Their farts smell like perfume and they walk on water.

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(07-30-2014 11:38 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  
(07-30-2014 08:59 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(07-30-2014 08:41 AM)heavy Wrote:  If he wasn't an idiot, which he is usually, Stephen A would take this and run. He could be a dynamo for speaking truth.

He could do anything he wanted with his previous social / media status, and with this, he could turn this into a brand. But alas, he'll cower to the almighty pc-espn-media crowd and go back hat in hand, either to the mothership if they'll take him back or another sports network.

Unfortunately he's usually just so far from the truth.

Smith has valuable connections with many black athletes. Same goes for Mike Wilbon. ESPN know that they would instantly lose lots of exclusive interviews with many players by getting rid of either one of them every time they piss off the PC police. Like when Mike talked about one of the ladies skirts and boots. ESPN isn't that stupid. Smith could have his own show somewhere else and Bayless might even follow him. Those two are like Opie and Anthony Light Sports Edition, for the mainstream. That suspension is just for the heat to die off then it will be business as usual. Stuart Scott is fighting cancer right now. They cannot let the golden geese that they have left get chased off. PC be damned.

Micheal Irvin is the equivalent for the NFL network and Sapp is just another Charles Barkley for the NFL.

Good point about Smith's connections, I bet in some way he has more credibility with athletes. He said something athletes would catch so much shit for.

It takes two to tango, there are no victims in life. We choose to put ourselves in situations, we choose our actions. Was it the wisest thing for Ray Rice to punch the hoe? No. But it wasn't like everything was fine and he was like, "You know we need to spice things up, let me knock out my girlfriend, yaaa that will be a great idea. Let's make sure it is caught on video."

Plus, the hoe married the guy afterwards, you know she is insane. And smart in a way, since she is set for life if they don't piss the money away. And I bet he didn't get a good pre-nup or one at all, she had him by the balls.

People do stupid shit that causes more shit to happen. A guy walks into a bar and mouths off and gets punched. You don't think he created that mess? Spitting on a man is a big disrespect, and then to have a women do it? Well in this case she is a hoe not a woman or lady, but you get the point.

But ya, women never do anything stupid. Their farts smell like perfume and they walk on water.

He gets respect from athletes the same way he gets tons of respect from your average brothers in the barbershops around America. He says the shit they want to say on TV and absorbs the collective heat for everyone. He is also fairly eloquent in doing it. He is almost like a black Rush Limbaugh because of the amount of respect he gets and the amount of hate he receives. They can trust him not to throw them under the bus when they fuck up by not asking them crazy interview questions and being very careful about the way he frames them. He and Mike Irvin, are like a black Barbara Walters, in that regard. Irvin and sometimes Deion Sanders and Cris Carter, are unique in the way that they can be part of the recovery process itself and help players by vouching for their contriteness after a big fuck up. They help coach these guys up before, during, and after the interview and stump for them as a politician would. As long as the players do not get a big head and will humbly accept their grandstanding and doting.

That kind of stuff is a big deal because stuff happens all the time, during the season, and offseason, and not all of these players are going to feel anywhere near that comfortable with Josina Anderson or Pam Oliver.

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I usually don't care about the feminism stuff too much but for Stephen to get suspended, I find this disgusting. America is becoming very much like Toronto (who came first, the hen or the egg?).

This lizard situation is very unrealistic and the very men that they castrate that they ostracise..the very men that they force into inceldom (does that word exist?) are the same men that save them when they decide to go and hit someone and things go wrong.

They are not observing the laws of nature at all and they are making those who are on the fence normally with a possible leaning in favour of chivalry, actually enjoy now to see a lizard knocked the fcuk out.

Whoopi is the last frontier for the females. When lizards start to believe they can hit men as they wish with no repercussions, they have now capitulated on the last bastion that they could hold dear to them as females.

I had a debate with one of my platonic lizard friends in Toronto about this a while ago and her sister agreed with me that if a woman hits a man, she shouldn't be averse to the notion of getting her claart knocked out.

My lizard friend came with the weak rebuttal that men are stronger. So fcuking what? If we are stronger, then give me pussy, beer and sandwiches then! Take lesser pay for your weakness.

Don't try and rig the game. Now the funny thing is, these lizards usually chase men away and raise fatherless men. Now guess what? Men with no father figure think like lizards! So now they will go around reacting emotionally..just like their mothers taught them and will think nothing of knocking out a lizard since they have been socialised like one!

So go ahead..keep pushing that weak mantra..and watch the new era of skinny jeans wearing soldiers knock you senseless.

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(07-30-2014 05:10 PM)Moma Wrote:  Don't try and rig the game. Now the funny thing is, these lizards usually chase men away and raise fatherless men. Now guess what? Men with no father figure think like lizards! So now they will go around reacting emotionally..just like their mothers taught them and will think nothing of knocking out a lizard since they have been socialised like one!

I think what you'll find is that the more feminized schools become the more potentially a male will become just like the lizards. It's already been too late that men that has been programmed to the feminist agenda will pass those same traits along to their sons and the cycle will continue. Since men are becoming more emasculated over time.

I remember I dated a woman who played this game called "slug bug". This game featured hitting someone in the arm or leg every time they spotted a a VW beetle passing by. I was driving in the car and i suddenly got punched in the arm. She explained to me the game. I told her it was stupid and that she shouldn't just hit people randomly like that.

To prove my point. I picked every car that passed us I called out the make and model and punched her in the arm. Needless to say she never played that game again.

I've never experienced a woman maliciously hitting me. However, I witnessed domestic violence where women have broken bottles over other dudes head though.
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(07-29-2014 09:22 PM)tarquin Wrote:  Video of Whoopi laying down some truth.





The prosecutor on the right is a real bitch. She says that a man can never hit a woman unless his life is in danger. She also prided herself on the fact that she tried a lot of these cases and sent the man to jail.

Im agreeing with Whoopi Goldberg? The End is truly nigh.

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Go Whoopi! The lawyer bitch has that "I'm a lawyer" vibe. WHF.

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They are just looking for something to bitch about and they had to dig this one out of his words. Stephen A. was in no way blaming the victim and what he said applys to people in general, not jut women. It's the same reason that in my high school even when people did not fight back they often got suspended. Why? Because they provoked their attacker. It's not just a lesson for women, DON'T provoke people unless you are looking for a fight.

This shit is getting worse at a very fast rate.
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The masculinization of the Westernized females continues...

Fueled by reality tv
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Stephen A. was most certainly speaking to a certain demographic. Go to ANY urban pocket of this country, and you will find this same dichotomy

Scary to think I've spoken with chicks who feel that if a man DOESN'T put his hands on her/applies his physicality, that he must not care

Just as scary are the one's I've encountered that think that the guy who shows restraint in the face of her physical assaults is somehow less than a man

They all have a skewed idea of what true manhood is about

To me, the over-arching theme was always no dad at home growing up

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(07-31-2014 11:42 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Scary to think I've spoken with chicks who feel that if a man DOESN'T put his hands on her/applies his physicality, that he must not care

Just as scary are the one's I've encountered that think that the guy who shows restraint in the face of her physical assaults is somehow less than a man

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Related, but Ray Rice came out and did some groveling:

Quote:"My actions that night were totally inexcusable," said Rice, who apologized profusely to his wife, 2-year-old daughter, teammates, the Ravens organization, Baltimore community and even other victims of abuse. "That's not who I am as a man."

He admitted he needed help in the aftermath of the assault but pledged to help others suffering from domestic violence once his counseling is complete.

Rice admitted the press conference with his wife in May was "awkward" and took another opportunity to publicly apologize to her. He took no questions then while letting the legal and NFL disciplinary process play out.

"My wife can do no wrong," he said Thursday, while declining several times to discuss what exactly happened in the elevator. "She's an angel."

She spits on and hits the man who she is to marry, yet she can do no wrong and is an angel. That's most of the problem there, not once in the mainstream discussion of this has there been a mention of the full story. The fact that they were both charged with assault has been forgotten. Just another data point for the claim that women are not to be held responsible for their actions
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Let's take the "don't hit a woman unless your life is in danger" argument to its logical conclusion.

A woman damages your penis beyond repair and then steals your car along with $10,000 cash. You can't hit her.



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(07-31-2014 03:46 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  Related, but Ray Rice came out and did some groveling:

Quote:"My actions that night were totally inexcusable," said Rice, who apologized profusely to his wife, 2-year-old daughter, teammates, the Ravens organization, Baltimore community and even other victims of abuse. "That's not who I am as a man."

He admitted he needed help in the aftermath of the assault but pledged to help others suffering from domestic violence once his counseling is complete.

Rice admitted the press conference with his wife in May was "awkward" and took another opportunity to publicly apologize to her. He took no questions then while letting the legal and NFL disciplinary process play out.

"My wife can do no wrong," he said Thursday, while declining several times to discuss what exactly happened in the elevator. "She's an angel."

She spits on and hits the man who she is to marry, yet she can do no wrong and is an angel. That's most of the problem there, not once in the mainstream discussion of this has there been a mention of the full story. The fact that they were both charged with assault has been forgotten. Just another data point for the claim that women are not to be held responsible for their actions

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Kay Fagan weighs in on ESPNW

Quote:McPherson offers another reason the NFL shies away from the issue of domestic violence. "When you say you're fighting breast cancer, it's cancer that is the problem. When you're combating domestic violence, often men are the perpetrators; men are the problem. And the NFL can't do anything in a small way. So if they went big with domestic violence, they would find themselves at the forefront of the national conversation on the issue. It would scrutinize their fans, the language of their game, and they would have to be called to task for the sexism and misogyny that fuels the game."

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(08-01-2014 09:30 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  Kay Fagan weighs in on ESPNW

Quote:McPherson offers another reason the NFL shies away from the issue of domestic violence. "When you say you're fighting breast cancer, it's cancer that is the problem. When you're combating domestic violence, often men are the perpetrators; men are the problem. And the NFL can't do anything in a small way. So if they went big with domestic violence, they would find themselves at the forefront of the national conversation on the issue. It would scrutinize their fans, the language of their game, and they would have to be called to task for the sexism and misogyny that fuels the game."

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So a sport where men knock the shit out of each other is fueled by hatred of women. Alrighty then.

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Quote:So if they went big with domestic violence, they would find themselves at the forefront of the national conversation on the issue. It would scrutinize their fans, the language of their game, and they would have to be called to task for the sexism and misogyny that fuels the game.

Utterly idiotic remarks like this provide further evidence for the fact that progressivism has become the de facto religion of the West. This woman doesn't really even understand what she's talking about, she's just throwing out buzzwords like "a national conversation" and invoking standards of oppression (sexism and misogyny) that don't even make sense when discussing a male-only league. Basically, she is just a poser. She recognizes the supremacy of progressivism in our culture and is attempting to toe the progressive line, because she believes this will raise her professional profile.

This demonstrates that progressivism is ascendent, because people who don't even understand it or believe in it are forced to pretend that they do in order to advance and even preserve their careers. And really, this is the vast majority of public personalities today. Most people don't actually believe in this nonsense. They just know that they must appear to believe in it, or else their careers will be over. And so they all go along with it, and the tide of conformity gradually rises as the most ambitious and sociopathic people continually attempt to one-up each other with their holier-than-thou displays of their progressive bona fides.

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Quote:So if they went big with domestic violence, they would find themselves at the forefront of the national conversation on the issue. It would scrutinize their fans, the language of their game, and they would have to be called to task for the sexism and misogyny that fuels the game.

Utterly idiotic remarks like this provide further evidence for the fact that progressivism has become the de facto religion of the West. This woman doesn't really even understand what she's talking about, she's just throwing out buzzwords like "a national conversation" and invoking standards of oppression (sexism and misogyny) that don't even make sense when discussing a male-only league. Basically, she is just a poser. She recognizes the supremacy of progressivism in our culture and is attempting to toe the progressive line, because she believes this will raise her professional profile.

This demonstrates that progressivism is ascendent, because people who don't even understand it or believe in it are forced to pretend that they do in order to advance and even preserve their careers. And really, this is the vast majority of public personalities today. Most people don't actually believe in this nonsense. They just know that they must appear to believe in it, or else their careers will be over. And so they all go along with it, and the tide of conformity gradually rises as the most ambitious and sociopathic people continually attempt to one-up each other with their holier-than-thou displays of their progressive bona fides.

Good point. This brings up the inevitable question: who is the man behind the curtain? As Scorpion observed, the vast majority of the population toes the progressive line for reasons not unlike those faced by 1930's era Germans or 1920s-1990 era Soviets: you must follow the party line, or else.

Obviously, there are the true believers, the people of Jizzabel, Tmblr, the low level NGO fanatics and other people on the bottom of the social barrel. But what these people have in common besides their fanatical ideological beliefs is that they are all failures. Simply, nobody could at the same time be stupid and illogical enough to actually believe the progressive myths while at the same time rise to positions of real influence. To put it simply, you don't become CEO of a Fortune 500 company while honestly believing "fat is beatiful" or "everybody's equal."

So we live in a society where neither the top people, nor the great mass of the people, truly believe progressivist madness, yet everyone must still kowtow to the madness or else face utter social destruction. So how did this situation come to be? If neither your company's C-suite, nor the majority of your coworkers, nor in fact the majority of the people in the country disagree with your statements, why are you still being fired? The losers at Jizzabel etc. do not hold this kind of power. The truth is rather more "conspiratorial."
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(08-02-2014 12:50 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
Quote:So if they went big with domestic violence, they would find themselves at the forefront of the national conversation on the issue. It would scrutinize their fans, the language of their game, and they would have to be called to task for the sexism and misogyny that fuels the game.

Utterly idiotic remarks like this provide further evidence for the fact that progressivism has become the de facto religion of the West. This woman doesn't really even understand what she's talking about, she's just throwing out buzzwords like "a national conversation" and invoking standards of oppression (sexism and misogyny) that don't even make sense when discussing a male-only league. Basically, she is just a poser. She recognizes the supremacy of progressivism in our culture and is attempting to toe the progressive line, because she believes this will raise her professional profile.

This demonstrates that progressivism is ascendent, because people who don't even understand it or believe in it are forced to pretend that they do in order to advance and even preserve their careers. And really, this is the vast majority of public personalities today. Most people don't actually believe in this nonsense. They just know that they must appear to believe in it, or else their careers will be over. And so they all go along with it, and the tide of conformity gradually rises as the most ambitious and sociopathic people continually attempt to one-up each other with their holier-than-thou displays of their progressive bona fides.

Good point. This brings up the inevitable question: who is the man behind the curtain? As Scorpion observed, the vast majority of the population toes the progressive line for reasons not unlike those faced by 1930's era Germans or 1920s-1990 era Soviets: you must follow the party line, or else.

Obviously, there are the true believers, the people of Jizzabel, Tmblr, the low level NGO fanatics and other people on the bottom of the social barrel. But what these people have in common besides their fanatical ideological beliefs is that they are all failures. Simply, nobody could at the same time be stupid and illogical enough to actually believe the progressive myths while at the same time rise to positions of real influence. To put it simply, you don't become CEO of a Fortune 500 company while honestly believing "fat is beatiful" or "everybody's equal."

So we live in a society where neither the top people, nor the great mass of the people, truly believe progressivist madness, yet everyone must still kowtow to the madness or else face utter social destruction. So how did this situation come to be? If neither your company's C-suite, nor the majority of your coworkers, nor in fact the majority of the people in the country disagree with your statements, why are you still being fired? The losers at Jizzabel etc. do not hold this kind of power. The truth is rather more "conspiratorial."

The international bankers. The few elite wealthy and mostly hidden from public men who literally own the Federal Reserve and the Central banks of Europe.

They cannot rule the world unless they push this progressive agenda. Destroy families, take away men's rights (women will not fight the elites for the most part, they are their own personal idiot soldiers to push the movement), destroy the concept of nationality, control population growth.

All so in the end they can rule over the world, with no competition and live like kings while the lucky few left will be their slaves and serfs.
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(07-27-2014 03:26 PM)MattW Wrote:  Last week I parked my car in public and left it unlocked, windows down with an ipad on the front seat. When I came back the ipad was gone. Don't tell me what to do to protect my stuff, I shouldn't have to take precautions. Tell everyone else to stop stealing stuff that isn't theirs.

Funny you should mention this concept. I've definitely noticed the laxed concern among women re. keeping things locked and in general being prepared for just about anything at all. It coincides with their entitlement attitude.

I know of one girl in particular who has had shit stolen 3 times in the last year or so. Just like a woman will stay with an alpha that beats her over a beta who doesn't, neither will they learn to clean up their act to avoid stupid situations, and are almost always the cause of them in the first place.
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Just saw this today. Someone should show this video to Michelle Beadle.
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That phrase "national conversation" is another way of saying "show trial." Show trial in the court of public opinion.
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(08-03-2014 08:15 PM)J DOE Wrote:  


Just saw this today. Someone should show this video to Michelle Beadle.

Yep and if he had pushed her off he would be in a jail right now.

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The worst part is the female administrator just standing there letting the girl yell and escalate for two whole minutes. The teacher/admin should be fired.
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That girl needed some Cesar Millan. To calm her down. He does this finger jab thing that snaps dogs out of their frenzy modes. Her nonstop energy comes from a place of pain and it seems pretty deep. That is my bro psychology that I freely provide. Big Grin

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