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(05-02-2019 02:01 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  SW15.

What is your malfunction?

You seem very bitter about game in general. Have you been getting lays with any type of game?

You say day game is a pain... Well things that have intrinsic value tend to have high barriers for entry and difficulty at the beginning.

SW15 sounds like a seasoned player, who (just like me) have seen how much harder day game (and game in general) became. As written before in much greater detail, it really boils down to how easy and accessible have men become for women. They have a full PenisPipleline, regardless if they are below average looking, or a solid 8.

I started my game journey with 20. I am 27 now. Back in early 2010 or so, women were not approached and had little chance to meet new men outside of their immediate social circle. Now in 2019, they are just bombarded with attention. I vastly improved my looks (Lifting), style (I get compliments from posh mid 30's women often when I dress up), and game (very little approach anxiety).

If I try to game local German women, I get mostly weird responses, and not nearly as positive as it was back in 2010 to 2015. It is also much more rare to see women making eye contact and giving out a smile. Simultaneously, I notice how women of the same age bracket (late teens to late 20's) have gotten fat. This was different back in 2010.

If day game was as bad of a return on investment back in 2010, I would have never bothered to do it and get better at it. I would have rather focused on sports and education to be able to gather wealth and invest in the stock market in companies profiting from the current mess (Apple, Samsung Electronics, and all the other companies involved in the Mobile Industry food chain). The ROI between 2014 and 2019 was decent.
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Maybe y'all are just getting old?
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(05-02-2019 06:24 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 02:01 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  SW15.

What is your malfunction?

You seem very bitter about game in general. Have you been getting lays with any type of game?

You say day game is a pain... Well things that have intrinsic value tend to have high barriers for entry and difficulty at the beginning.

SW15 sounds like a seasoned player, who (just like me) have seen how much harder day game (and game in general) became. As written before in much greater detail, it really boils down to how easy and accessible have men become for women. They have a full PenisPipleline, regardless if they are below average looking, or a solid 8.

I started my game journey with 20. I am 27 now. Back in early 2010 or so, women were not approached and had little chance to meet new men outside of their immediate social circle. Now in 2019, they are just bombarded with attention. I vastly improved my looks (Lifting), style (I get compliments from posh mid 30's women often when I dress up), and game (very little approach anxiety).

If I try to game local German women, I get mostly weird responses, and not nearly as positive as it was back in 2010 to 2015. It is also much more rare to see women making eye contact and giving out a smile. Simultaneously, I notice how women of the same age bracket (late teens to late 20's) have gotten fat. This was different back in 2010.

If day game was as bad of a return on investment back in 2010, I would have never bothered to do it and get better at it. I would have rather focused on sports and education to be able to gather wealth and invest in the stock market in companies profiting from the current mess (Apple, Samsung Electronics, and all the other companies involved in the Mobile Industry food chain). The ROI between 2014 and 2019 was decent.

I'd say that I am a seasoned player and I might be getting tired of it all. I'm 35 years old, never married, been in some relationships over time, and have been attempting to fornicate since age 14. I started reading game materials when I was college with David DeAngelo type cocky and funny stuff. Discovered Roosh's stuff in the early 2010s.

I've gotten lays from day, night, and online over time. There's certain been a noticeable degradation in how much effort that it takes to get lays regardless of which method chosen.

I also tend to be somewhat introverted. I probably would have done best via social circle game and enabling warm leads. I've never had a viable social circle. I've wisely not had female platonic friends. It's been unfortunate that I've never had a female younger sister or cousin to feed me leads. I have had male friends, but there's never been a male friend whose girlfriend or wife set me up with anyone.
I've moved around a few times. Friends have also moved too.

Right now, I happen to think day is the most viable of the 3 options + social circle. At 35, I'm not developing a social circle. Much has been written about how the apps are nightmarish. There's been issues in night game that also been well chronicled here. Day game is a pretty big time investment and that can get rather frustrating.
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I find day game is fun on large college campuses, main streets, near beaches, and in NYC. Its about being social and is a great way to meet cool people.
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You could find another likeminded man that is into game and work on improving your day game togethor. Men tend to organize around a common mission. If your looking to increase your social circle id like to suggest Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. You will meet other red pill men that may have similar interest to you. It will also increase your confidence, agression and being around other high tesosterone men is beneficial. Also you NEED to lift weight atleast 3x a week, this is non negotiable.

NOFAP (not jerking off) will help your drive to meet women, workout and business. Just dont jerk off for the next 90 days. Let your only release be sex.

In my opinion, at 35 you should be spinning multiple "plates" if you indeed are a "seasoned" player. You should have girls in rotation begging you for a relationship. If this is not occurring you are simply not in the top 20% + of men, concerning game, looks etc.....

Wining about not having younger sister and making excuses about reality is childish, sure the women are turning into vapid sluts... But men are also turning into soft metrosexual pussies. Its not hard to stand apart im a masculime frame. Its time to tighten up bros!
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(05-02-2019 07:57 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  SW15

You could find another likeminded man that is into game and work on improving your day game togethor. Men tend to organize around a common mission. If your looking to increase your social circle id like to suggest Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. You will meet other red pill men that may have similar interest to you. It will also increase your confidence. Also lift weight atleast 3x a week.

NOFAP (not jerking off) will help your drive to meet women, workout and business. Just dont jerk off for the next 90 days. Let your only release be sex.

In my opinion, at 35 you should be spinning multiple "plates" if you indeed are a "seasoned" player. You should have girls in rotation begging you for a relationship. If this is not occurring you are simply not in the top 20% + of men, concerning game, looks etc.....

Wining about not having younger sister is childish, Its time to tighten up bro!

No porn and no fap is totally the best idea. I've been doing it for years. I got my testosterone levels checked within the last couple of months. Close to 800 total. That's above average and median.

I exercise 4-5 days a week between lifting and sports and have been doing so for over a decade.

There have been men who have gotten bangs and LTRs from their younger sisters feeding them leads. That's certainly an advantage if you can get it. I didn't have one to get me that advantage. I don't think it is whining to simply point that out especially when discussing 20+ years of history.
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(05-02-2019 01:43 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  I think day game requires a certain mindset, confidence to be effective. Im in sales and handle rejection easily. I am also a hunter. Day game is congruent with my personality as it is like trophy hunting and has sales aspects.

I do not enjoy night game anymore as I dobt drink alcohol and find drunk folks annoying. The competition also tends to be skewed in a females favor of men to women ratios.

Online game is effective but theres no sport in it. I actually enjoy the hunt /pursuot. It also fluffs the ego of my prey.

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(05-02-2019 07:57 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  SW15

You could find another likeminded man that is into game and work on improving your day game togethor. Men tend to organize around a common mission. If your looking to increase your social circle id like to suggest Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. You will meet other red pill men that may have similar interest to you. It will also increase your confidence. Also lift weight atleast 3x a week.

NOFAP (not jerking off) will help your drive to meet women, workout and business. Just dont jerk off for the next 90 days. Let your only release be sex.

In my opinion, at 35 you should be spinning multiple "plates" if you indeed are a "seasoned" player. You should have girls in rotation begging you for a relationship. If this is not occurring you are simply not in the top 20% + of men, concerning game, looks etc.....

Wining about not having younger sister is childish, Its time to tighten up bro!

No porn and no fap is totally the best idea. I've been doing it for years. I got my testosterone levels checked within the last couple of months. Close to 800 total. That's above average and median.

I exercise 4-5 days a week between lifting and sports and have been doing so for over a decade.

There have been men who have gotten bangs and LTRs from their younger sisters feeding them leads. That's certainly an advantage if you can get it. I didn't have one to get me that advantage. I don't think it is whining to simply point that out especially when discussing 20+ years of history.

I am also doing all of that. I am not whining, but rather sharing my past and current experience. I am in an LTR for a few years now, so the "thirst" is not there. I hope that I managed to make my point for the ones who are getting into day game just now, that it used to be much easier before hookup apps went

I believe that in 2019, time would better be spent would by joining a social circle (Rotary club, lions club, Freemasons). You might get lucky, and be introduced to someone's daughter. It happens.
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"The thirst is not there"

This is your problem. The game has not changed that much. Pussy is more abundant than ever. The problem with day game is not the game.... Its you.


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I was at the animal hospital and a mom with her pug and kid was clearly eye fucking me and initiated talking. Didn't ask for her number because my dog getting the shot isn't dog friendly. However this totally validated my day game theory. It can be done anywhere.
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Some soft metrosexual motherf#ckers been infiltrating the forum lately...

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(05-02-2019 11:50 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 08:09 AM)SW15 Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 07:57 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  SW15

You could find another likeminded man that is into game and work on improving your day game togethor. Men tend to organize around a common mission. If your looking to increase your social circle id like to suggest Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. You will meet other red pill men that may have similar interest to you. It will also increase your confidence. Also lift weight atleast 3x a week.

NOFAP (not jerking off) will help your drive to meet women, workout and business. Just dont jerk off for the next 90 days. Let your only release be sex.

In my opinion, at 35 you should be spinning multiple "plates" if you indeed are a "seasoned" player. You should have girls in rotation begging you for a relationship. If this is not occurring you are simply not in the top 20% + of men, concerning game, looks etc.....

Wining about not having younger sister is childish, Its time to tighten up bro!

No porn and no fap is totally the best idea. I've been doing it for years. I got my testosterone levels checked within the last couple of months. Close to 800 total. That's above average and median.

I exercise 4-5 days a week between lifting and sports and have been doing so for over a decade.

There have been men who have gotten bangs and LTRs from their younger sisters feeding them leads. That's certainly an advantage if you can get it. I didn't have one to get me that advantage. I don't think it is whining to simply point that out especially when discussing 20+ years of history.

I am also doing all of that. I am not whining, but rather sharing my past and current experience. I am in an LTR for a few years now, so the "thirst" is not there. I hope that I managed to make my point for the ones who are getting into day game just now, that it used to be much easier before hookup apps went

I believe that in 2019, time would better be spent would by joining a social circle (Rotary club, lions club, Freemasons). You might get lucky, and be introduced to someone's daughter. It happens.

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^Distant Light was basically arguing for this in the early 2010s.

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(05-02-2019 06:49 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  ^Distant Light was basically arguing for this in the early 2010s.

Man truly was living in 2032.

What is the utility of using the freemasons to get a GF. Seriously every freemason I've encountered is an old man, they are loosing many in their ranks quickly due to the ongoing boomer die-off.
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Yeah, WTF is with the Freemason's stuff?

Anyways,

(04-30-2019 06:13 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Krauser's definitive set is Daygame Mastery & Infinite. The books are complimentary and worth every penny.

Curious what the difference is between mastery and infinite? Do you really need both?
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(05-06-2019 10:14 PM)sharksfanguy88 Wrote:  Yeah, WTF is with the Freemason's stuff?

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(04-30-2019 06:13 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Krauser's definitive set is Daygame Mastery & Infinite. The books are complimentary and worth every penny.

Curious what the difference is between mastery and infinite? Do you really need both?

You don't need any of those - but in my opinion they accelerate the learning curve - you don't need to learn from your own mistakes and learn how to interpret the outcomes, given the provided descriptions will speed up your ROI so much faster (saving your frustrations of banging a head against a wall, too). I had exactly the same experiences upon doing the same actions Krauser did - it actually is uncanny, how basic biological wetware makes girls respond in the same way to the same cues, irrespective of a man delivering those cues.

Mastery was written a few years before Infinite, what logically follows from that, Krauser has had more time to digest his experience and understand more deeply the psychosexual dynamic between men and women. Mastery gives a more overall view of the process, whereas Infinite focuses more on theoretical (dear I say, philosophical) angle to women, game and sex, followed with a detailed part on pre-approach and calibration with a truly in-depth messaging management section (I believe there is absolutely nothing approaching his insights regarding "from a distance" girls' management). The former describes the dating phase in much more detail, the latter has very little regarding dating phase. All in all, I've read both cover to cover and referenced when needed. If you were to buy only one, buy Mastery. Infinite builds on the former, hence it would be difficult to understand and apply some of the concepts, reading the books in a reverse order.
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Super helpful KSBMS - thank you!
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It will become the worst way because day game will soon be banned.

We are not far from the day when men will be receiving anti social orders by from the local magistrate as the throbbing drums of (yet another) "Pride" parade passes the courthouse.
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It’s a great way of meeting girls (for now) if you have good social skills/calibration. As far as converting to bangs, I don’t know. I have done probably 10 day game approaches in my life and never converted one to a bang. Thankfully online and social circle game, plus a SNL here and there from the bar scene worked well enough. Respect to the day gamers out there, that shit takes nuts for sure
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(06-15-2019 09:50 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  It’s a great way of meeting girls (for now) if you have good social skills/calibration. As far as converting to bangs, I don’t know. I have done probably 10 day game approaches in my life and never converted one to a bang. Thankfully online and social circle game, plus a SNL here and there from the bar scene worked well enough. Respect to the day gamers out there, that shit takes nuts for sure

All else considered equal, the conversion is lower than other forms of meeting. Even conversion to simple dates. I make an exception if we are comparing DG approaches to swipes. There it may be better, but that also depends.

I may be repeating myself, but think about it this way: during the day you have an endless pool of choices, however those choices are not filtered. You will run into many girls who are unavailable (taken, married, recently out of a relationship), way more than in bars or clubs. Other girls are simply not looking at the moment, or just not open in going out with someone who stopped them on the street. You don't get that with dating apps, they are there to meet someone from the internet. Add to that the general flakiness of women.

The main difficulty with daygame is not so much that, though. It's the amount of effort you have to put in combined with, as you mentioned, its inherent difficulty. You need more skill, there is no alcohol or dance floor to loosen things up, you need to be on the go, women will often be in a hurry.

Having said all that, I still think it's way more fun than online and more flexible than NG. Not to mention the amount of self-confidence you gain. You also gain some social interaction skills which can be transferable to other things. And if you meet a girl who is into you, it's still a better story than swiping right while sitting on the throne.

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Alright so as some of you guys have barely scratched the surface on DG I’ll give my two cents with having actually gone through a few phases of daygame.
What I mean by phases is that from my perspective, when you first start cold approaching you really really suck because of nervousness mainly. Totally normal. As you gain positive experiences, referencing those on going in for the approach really helps come in naturally, calibrated and flexible to change direction in the interaction quickly.
When I first started DG I did probably 50-100 opens with zero luck. Maybe a number or one awkward insta date my first few months. I didn’t know how to stop the girl, how to word the open, the appropriate amount of eye contact to do, where to lead the conversation/interaction..
These things come with time and experience and as I learned what works and what doesn’t I adjusted my game. Also daygaming with someone is super helpful and watching videos if you don’t have a pro to teach you helps as well. So I stuck it out then I started getting dates and good things happened. Funny enough, the NEXT day after my first DG success, I chatted up a girl in Starbucks and was back at my place in a hr! When it rains it pours. Had more successes that year then I wound up getting a girlfriend and did zero approaches for a year and half. Now single and back at it as of last month, I got a date on my 4th or 5th approach. Why? Because I recalled what works and put myself in a relaxed state and bam! It’s a little like riding a bike. Hard to unlearn. Same type of story for a friend of mine as well. Hadn’t approached in a long time. Got a number with a very positive interaction on his 2nd approach. A lot of the people here saying, it’s a waste of time and energy or not efficient. BS. I’m running my errands see a girl go say hi for 2 mins and good things can happen from there. As apposed to making a night of going out. Is minimum 2-3 hr investment or online where quality is generally a lot lower can take a lot of flaky text conversations to get a date. Daygame all the way now that over the learning curve hump. Well not all the way I did go out last night and had a good time Smile
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(06-15-2019 09:50 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  It’s a great way of meeting girls (for now) if you have good social skills/calibration. As far as converting to bangs, I don’t know. I have done probably 10 day game approaches in my life and never converted one to a bang. Thankfully online and social circle game, plus a SNL here and there from the bar scene worked well enough. Respect to the day gamers out there, that shit takes nuts for sure

You can't even consider 10 approaches to be a sample size. That's nothing.

I've done probably 60-75 day game approaches in my life. Probably 12-15 numbers, 5 dates and 3 bangs. I am not tall or especially good looking.

That's roughly 20 approaches to get one bang. If you approach 10 girls per week, that's 2 new notches per month. Not to shabby.

Now consider if you constantly improve and adjust your game. Increase your approach volume when in an especially good mood. We can probably finesse that success rate to 10 approaches for one bang. I believe that's what Roosh said his success rate is/was at when he wrote Day Bang.

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(05-07-2019 06:16 AM)ksbms Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 10:14 PM)sharksfanguy88 Wrote:  Yeah, WTF is with the Freemason's stuff?

Anyways,

(04-30-2019 06:13 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Krauser's definitive set is Daygame Mastery & Infinite. The books are complimentary and worth every penny.

Curious what the difference is between mastery and infinite? Do you really need both?

You don't need any of those - but in my opinion they accelerate the learning curve - you don't need to learn from your own mistakes and learn how to interpret the outcomes, given the provided descriptions will speed up your ROI so much faster (saving your frustrations of banging a head against a wall, too). I had exactly the same experiences upon doing the same actions Krauser did - it actually is uncanny, how basic biological wetware makes girls respond in the same way to the same cues, irrespective of a man delivering those cues.

Mastery was written a few years before Infinite, what logically follows from that, Krauser has had more time to digest his experience and understand more deeply the psychosexual dynamic between men and women. Mastery gives a more overall view of the process, whereas Infinite focuses more on theoretical (dear I say, philosophical) angle to women, game and sex, followed with a detailed part on pre-approach and calibration with a truly in-depth messaging management section (I believe there is absolutely nothing approaching his insights regarding "from a distance" girls' management). The former describes the dating phase in much more detail, the latter has very little regarding dating phase. All in all, I've read both cover to cover and referenced when needed. If you were to buy only one, buy Mastery. Infinite builds on the former, hence it would be difficult to understand and apply some of the concepts, reading the books in a reverse order.

Does Krauser only teach direct day game, or does he also write about indirect approaches?

I have Roosh's book on day game but I want to broaden my learning. (And I think indirect approaches are the safest option given the possibility of being accused of harassment for displaying too much heterosexuality)
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