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What are some good sources of protein other than meat? I have been eating eggs and fish but I'm trying to supplement with something else. Already got peanut butter.

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04-12-2015 11:23 PM
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(04-12-2015 11:23 PM)Stun Wrote:  What are some good sources of protein other than meat? I have been eating eggs and fish but I'm trying to supplement with something else. Already got peanut butter.

Meat, eggs, dairy.

How much are you trying to hit? PB is good but is very calorically dense.
04-12-2015 11:31 PM
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(04-12-2015 11:31 PM)redbeard Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 11:23 PM)Stun Wrote:  What are some good sources of protein other than meat? I have been eating eggs and fish but I'm trying to supplement with something else. Already got peanut butter.

Meat, eggs, dairy.

How much are you trying to hit? PB is good but is very calorically dense.

Right now:
Breakfast = 4 eggs + turkey bacon + a quest bar
Lunch= a turkey or chicken sandwich with a small salad
Snack= 1 pint fruit and vegetable drink that I make + 1 scoop of whey
Dinner= A large portion of chicken or steak or fish + brown rice

I am trying to supplement out some of the meat. So I am not eating meat at all 3 meals 7 days a week.

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Then you're asking the wrong guy. I eat meat at every meal.

I got 200g protein today with zero supplements.
04-13-2015 12:13 AM
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Not sure what it is about my body but I can't go more than 2 weeks without eating meat.
I feel weak and sick.
A couple years ago I took a trip to spain and italy and had a hard time finding chicken breasts or a large steak to eat.

I can't imagine how people can hit their daily protein goals without eating meat.
Eggs, fish, protein shakes, nuts, milk, and Greek yogurt, possibly.
04-13-2015 03:02 AM
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Maybe I worded the question wrong. I need protein alternatives IN ADDITION to meat. I will still eat eggs and either steak, chicken or pork or fish every day.

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04-13-2015 03:14 AM
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(04-13-2015 03:14 AM)Stun Wrote:  Maybe I worded the question wrong. I need protein alternatives IN ADDITION to meat. I will still eat eggs and either steak, chicken or pork or fish every day.

Cottage cheese, and some beans (eg white beans) are also pretty high in protein, and other good stuff. Cheese more generally is also a good addition, although it's easy to get a lot of extra calories in if you're not careful.

Also don't forget that if you're eating plenty of rice etc, these carb sources also contain a healthy amount of protein. The whole 'if it doesn't come from meat it doesn't count towards your protein quota' is largely nonsense (except to the extent it encourages you to prioritise animal protein), and not terribly important for anyone who isn't looking to step on a stage.
04-13-2015 03:28 AM
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Chicken hearts, livers and gizzards are very lean and high protein, more so than even chicken breasts, and a LOT cheaper.

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(04-13-2015 09:40 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Chicken hearts, livers and gizzards are very lean and high protein, more so than even chicken breasts, and a LOT cheaper.

Good point. I remember seeing a chart somewhere that listed the nutritional value of all the food types, by amino acid/mineral/whatever profile and organ meat crushed everything else, particularly beef liver if I remember right. Again, if I remember correctly, most vegetables were rated about 10/100 on this relative score chart, with there being a huge gulf between organ meat and everything else (organ meat had a 97/100 score or something).
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Yep, you can easily check this out if you have MyFitnessPal or one of those programs.

Might be why the alpha predator of the pack (wolves, lions) always get to eat organ meat first.

IIRC meat off the bones also have better profile than most cuts. If you're on a budget, go to a meat market, you can get chicken frames (still with about 700g of meat on each) and some cuts of meat off the bones for bugger all. One recent winter I bought a dozen frames for $5, and made enough soup to feed an army or two (well just me and my dad). There are some delicious cuts of beef off the shoulders I could buy for $2.50 a kg (2.2lb for you Americans). Sometimes you can get them for free if you buy bones to make stock.

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I love chicken hearts - I used to eat the barbecue ones in Thailand with sticky rice and nam jim jao like they were sweets. I'll have to get some and experiment with cooking them here. How do those that eat them cook them?
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I'm looking into bumping up my carb intake a bit. Would there be any downside to throwing something like dextrose or maltodextrin powder into my post workout shake?
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(04-13-2015 09:40 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Chicken hearts, livers and gizzards are very lean and high protein, more so than even chicken breasts, and a LOT cheaper.

I'm a big fan of the breasts (heh) but maybe the gizzards are worth a try. I had ox tails tonight after my workout and I'm feeling pretty fierce. Sleepy

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04-14-2015 02:42 AM
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I was skeptical about the "insides" until I went to Florence and had this:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampredotto

Delicious. Highly recommended.
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(04-11-2015 11:22 PM)Ensam Wrote:  Been lifting at a university gym the past few weeks. Young dudes do not know how to lift at all. I was watching guys in the squat rack today and all I could think of was the horrible back pain they're going to experience in 10 years. For anybody who's 19 out there, completing a lift and doing it properly are two different things. Lower your weights and work on form before shooting for big numbers.

I saw two young guys doing box squats with three plates a side.

Box squats that ended over 6 inches away from the box.

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04-14-2015 12:47 PM
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Question for all the RVF lifters here:

Does anyone know an effective shoulder routine for someone with a herniated disc / bad lower back?

I felt a flare up the other day, so I want to avoid all exercises that load the spine, meaning military presses, seated dumbbell presses and the like are out the window.

Right now I'm thinking of reverse cable flys and seated dumbbell raises, but would love any extra suggestions
04-14-2015 02:54 PM
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(04-14-2015 02:54 PM)Seamus Wrote:  Right now I'm thinking of reverse cable flys and seated dumbbell raises, but would love any extra suggestions

Good addition on seated dumbbell raises: twist your wrists up or all the way bent in (not neutral and test the burn). I get a solid burn isolated on the shoulders only when turning my wrist up (turning it in can also do wonders for a different burn).
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(04-14-2015 02:54 PM)Seamus Wrote:  Question for all the RVF lifters here:

Does anyone know an effective shoulder routine for someone with a herniated disc / bad lower back?

I felt a flare up the other day, so I want to avoid all exercises that load the spine, meaning military presses, seated dumbbell presses and the like are out the window.

Right now I'm thinking of reverse cable flys and seated dumbbell raises, but would love any extra suggestions

Pushups and dips

BB and DB bench

Reverse fly in machine or with cable

DB lateral raises

Face pulls

etc.

Most shoulder exercises do not load the low back. The only notable exceptions are the standing press and its variations.

The bench press specialists in powerlifting tend to be guys with low back or knee issues.

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Just got a gym card today, time to get serious. Also quit smoking cigarettes, had my last one yesterday before sleep. And I'll try to NoFap.
04-15-2015 08:25 AM
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Never take zinc on an empty stomach. Trust me.
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^^A rep point from me if you can go 3 months without smoking and fapping, and if you can stick to a gym plan.
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(04-15-2015 01:40 PM)britchard Wrote:  ^^A rep point from me if you can go 3 months without smoking and fapping, and if you can stick to a gym plan.

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(04-15-2015 01:40 PM)britchard Wrote:  ^^A rep point from me if you can go 3 months without smoking and fapping, and if you can stick to a gym plan.

Hey guy... Hey buddy..... I have been 3 months without smoking or fapping... and have been going to the gym.
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The question is what's going to be harder nofap or no smoking
04-15-2015 03:19 PM
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(04-15-2015 01:40 PM)britchard Wrote:  ^^A rep point from me if you can go 3 months without smoking and fapping, and if you can stick to a gym plan.

Actually 3 months nofap is the plan. Smoking I want to quit for good, bought a pack now in the evening though and had one smoke but it will be the last package I'm hoping. Down from like 30/day last week to one today. As for the gym plan I was going to go every other day, however that might be to much so guessing twice a week as a minimum would be a better goal, but starting with every other day.

Appreciate the challenge, not to earn a rep-point but to actually achieving my goals.

(04-15-2015 03:19 PM)KC4 Wrote:  The question is what's going to be harder nofap or no smoking

Short-term the smoking and long-term fapping I guess.
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