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Great work, Chaos.

Consistency will get you very far, well beyond what most people think is possible.

You keep up the small monthly or quarterly gain over the next few years and soon people will start accusing you of either being a genetic freak or on steroids. Wink

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Pulled 405 for the first time tonight. Was feeling good so went for a 40lb PR at 425lbs and hit that as well. Tried for 445 and got it off the ground but felt my form breaking down more than I was comfortable with so set it down.

Pretty damn happy with a 425 pull tonight though. Big PR for me.
11-19-2015 11:20 PM
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Benched today pain free.

I usually do incline and lighter weight/slower/more reps because of the tenderness (I think from boxing). But the inclines were occupied. It felt great, so I put out 225 5 times. I also do incline last (bench in this case), so I was surprised how much I had in me after all the other lifts I did.

I just am sort of stoked because of the pain free lifting.

I do a lot of pre-lifting stretching, my doc gave me an anti-inflammatory and I only box twice a week now because I am sort of in this mode to add some size/strength.

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What are nice exercises that translate to squat and deadlift strength that you can do with an injured heel? I'm thinking leg press and isolated leg exercises.
11-21-2015 04:50 PM
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(11-21-2015 04:50 PM)kbell Wrote:  What are nice exercises that translate to squat and deadlift strength that you can do with an injured heel? I'm thinking leg press and isolated leg exercises.

What's wrong with the heel?
11-21-2015 09:22 PM
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(11-19-2015 01:15 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  
(11-19-2015 12:22 PM)Hades Wrote:  I decided to say screw it sometime this week and just go for a zero carb (or very low carb) diet. I won't bother with carb refeeds until I see abs, after which will be a weekly thing.

College life is great and all, beer and pizza, but slowly getting fatter is irritating if you know anything about nutrition. What good is knowing something if you do nothing about it?

So yeah, it's just meat, cheese, eggs, and olive oil for me for a good long while. The keto calculator on the internet suggests I should be at the leanest I've ever been in about five or six months.

I'm in the throes of keto flu and brain fog which blows but it's not worse than being a fatass.

Friend of mine whose ex pro hockey player bulked up and put on quite a bit of muscle last spring, brought a little belly fat with it he couldn't easily shed even after adding in cardio... one of the fittest guys I know.

Said he bought an herbal colon cleanse pills he took late one week. Told me he shit himself silly all weekend but lost apx. 12 lbs and went from a 4 pack to close to shredded in short order. Not saying it's for everyone, but it serves dual purpose. Cleans your system and drops a lot of extra crap you don't need. Just be prepared to ride the shitter like a pro.

That sounds pretty intense. He might have just gotten pretty dry and dehydrated after that approach, even though he probably lost a pound or two for sure. The math doesn't really check out.

I'm not sure I'd go that route as it sounds pretty unpleasant, considering you can just drop mad weight by pigging out on fatty cuts of meat, eggs, and cheese, which is what I'm doing right now. I think I pissed out about eight pounds worth of water weight and lost maybe two or three pounds of actual weight.
11-22-2015 08:49 PM
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Finally, after many years in the wilderness, I am starting to think I am getting the hang of this training business. I've been cutting for the past 6 weeks. I've lost 1.5" off my waist, my arms have grown .125 of an inch in the last 8 weeks most of which has been spent in an 800-1000 calorie/day deficit, and I've only lost 4lbs on the scale, suggesting I have built some decent muscle. I have managed to fuck up cutting and bulking more times than I care to remember, but it seems like I might finally have got it figured out.
11-23-2015 04:39 AM
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(11-23-2015 04:39 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Finally, after many years in the wilderness, I am starting to think I am getting the hang of this training business. I've been cutting for the past 6 weeks. I've lost 1.5" off my waist, my arms have grown .125 of an inch in the last 8 weeks most of which has been spent in an 800-1000 calorie/day deficit, and I've only lost 4lbs on the scale, suggesting I have built some decent muscle. I have managed to fuck up cutting and bulking more times than I care to remember, but it seems like I might finally have got it figured out.

What's different about this time?

For me - counting calories was the catalyst. I knew I was overeating, but it wasn't until I started using MFP that I realized I was over 3000 calories regularly.
11-23-2015 08:05 AM
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(11-23-2015 08:05 AM)redbeard Wrote:  
(11-23-2015 04:39 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Finally, after many years in the wilderness, I am starting to think I am getting the hang of this training business. I've been cutting for the past 6 weeks. I've lost 1.5" off my waist, my arms have grown .125 of an inch in the last 8 weeks most of which has been spent in an 800-1000 calorie/day deficit, and I've only lost 4lbs on the scale, suggesting I have built some decent muscle. I have managed to fuck up cutting and bulking more times than I care to remember, but it seems like I might finally have got it figured out.

What's different about this time?

For me - counting calories was the catalyst. I knew I was overeating, but it wasn't until I started using MFP that I realized I was over 3000 calories regularly.

There have been quite a lot of differences this time around. I'll try to outline them:

- The most important, as you found, has been calorie counting. I've been weighing my rice, and doing all that sort of stuff. I find it very easy to overeat rice and potatoes, contrary to what the internet people say about it being hard to put on fat on a clean diet I find it extremely easy to eat 600 calories in rice several times each day. Combine that with the odd high fat meal, and suddenly you're rocketing towards 4000 calories. For example, I weighed my rice at lunch, and had just 100 grams of it (uncooked weight), with 250g beef, some kidney beans, etc in a big chilli con carne. I don't stress about the exact amount of calories, I just try to be at or below 2k each day. Lunch should have been about 900-1000 calories, certainly not more.

- Eating the same foods. I live alone, and am quite happy to eat the same thing 2 or 3 meals in a row. I will have the exact same thing for supper tonight.

- Intermittent fasting. I have a tremendous appetite, and love to eat big meals. Doing IF means I can eat 2 big meals each day and still be in a deficit. This keeps quality of life nice and high, and means that even if I fuck up, the chances of me going over maintenance (about 2800kcal), is very low indeed so long as I eat clean.

- Stressing less about protein. My lunch had about 65-70g protein, as will my dinner. That's about 130-140g protein at 190lbs BW. I find this is plenty for my body, and I actually believe past this point I benefit more from carbs or fats than I do from protein. Trying to hit my bodyweight in protein, and eat enough food to be satisfied without overeating can be difficult for me. Previously I would happily eat 70g protein 3x/day, plus 2-3 lots of 150-200g rice, plus probably some eggs and some cheese. I'm actually amazed I still had abs at all, since that was probably closing in on 4k calories each day.

- Trusting the process, and enjoying the discomfort. I don't sweat a seeming lack of progress over a couple of days, or question whether I shouldn't lose fat faster, or talk down to myself about still being too fat. I am enjoying embracing the discomfort, and the challenge of pushing the first meal back in the day. I enjoy being hungry all morning, I feel sharp, and the discipline is satisfying. Rather than resent the diet, I am glad of it, and happy for the opportunity to strengthen my resolve.

- I have trained every day bar one since before the diet started (6 weeks ago). This keeps me focused on why I am doing the diet, and motivates me to stick to it so that my body reflects my state of mind. There are obvious exceptions, but I am a big believer that a very lean (trained) body has significant benefits for mental toughness.

- The more deliberate approach has encouraged me to be more attentive to the changes in my physique as they happen. Previously, if I felt I was getting a bit fat, I'd just eat less until I had separation between my middle and bottom abs again, and then loosen up the diet. This time around, I am noticing every day, or every couple of days, increased definition somewhere - the last bits of fat melting off my pecs to give them a good shape, increased separation between muscles on my legs, etc.
11-23-2015 09:16 AM
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Well I'm glad it's working for you.

I've had 2.5 litres of beer today Sad
11-23-2015 11:07 AM
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(11-23-2015 11:07 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Well I'm glad it's working for you.

I've had 2.5 litres of beer today Sad


Unfortunately I do not recognise your communist units, however, that is a strong start to the week - before Monday's sun is even over the yardarm.
11-23-2015 11:17 AM
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(11-23-2015 11:17 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  
(11-23-2015 11:07 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Well I'm glad it's working for you.

I've had 2.5 litres of beer today Sad


Unfortunately I do not recognise your communist units, however, that is a strong start to the week - before Monday's sun is even over the yardarm.

Still in Thailand.

Not speaking old money out here old chap...nobody understands me at the best of times!

I seem to have a sabotage mechanism whereby on the days I manage 4 hours training I simply must repay my body with an equal pint/hours worked ratio of beer before bed.

Anyhooo...tallyho, off to bed.

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11-23-2015 11:24 AM
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Man, I forgot how nice it is to have a good weight lifting partner.

I usually roll solo in the gym because most people just get in the way of a good workout. It's been like 4 years since I had a good workout partner.

Lately I've been working out with a guy who was a defensive lineman in college and my workout quality has gone way up.

My rest times have gone down because we go set for set. It's also nice to be able to have a good spotter to get forced reps in on the bench, and someone who can bring new ideas to the table.

Never take a good workout partner for granted. They are hard to come by.
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^^^good quality spots are hard to find sometimes. The ones that help you keep moving but only give just enough. They don't try to upright row it when you are benching. I just need to tell them how to spot me, sometimes I forget to.

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Started working with front squats again. I squatted on Saturday, and I'm still sore.

If you think you've a good back squat, spend some time front squatting. You won't fool yourself.

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11-23-2015 02:32 PM
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@RioNomad - You've got the right profile pic. Well done on the latest triumph.
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Heel spur and inflammation on the bottom which is due from not gradually getting used to a zero drop shoe from a taller heel drop shoe. So I can't walk for a long time and hurts to stand for long.
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I've just found that my body fat level is only 6%

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Eel, how did you come up with that figure?

It's extremely unlikely. 6% is what you see when bodybuilders are completely leaned out and on stage.
11-24-2015 01:58 AM
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I got tested totally randomly on one of those electric scales with 6 (8?) electrodes. This happened while visiting a friend whose friends are are travelling salesmen for various nutritional products, so they just tested everyone in the house (the rest of the guys my age all had 18% or more).

Upon seeing my result, they suddenly lost interest in trying to sell me any of their diet supplements Big Grin

But in all fairness, while I would never compare myself to a ripped-out bodybuilder, I am very lean and have a natural six-pack.

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http://www.thecompetitiveedge.com/shop/i...60834.html

I had myself measured on something similar to that at the sports gym where I worked. They had it on rental, the price seems about the same too. I think they said it cost around 10grand to purchase but they were testing out how popular it would be with a rental. I still have my results sitting around, it put me at either 16 or 18% body fat, which I would say was accurate. And also means I need to clean my diet up.

The thing measured your bone density, water levels, how much muscle you had and gave you a read out on what your supposed body composition was, bone fat muscle etc etc all laid out. The printout looked fairly similar to what that link shows as well. Except the one I received was a bit more detailed. I wasn't able to find the exact model as I don't remember the name but if I do I'll edit the post.
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No homo, but I think we should use more photos in here. It could be an update/progress pic, pictures from google of exercise demonstrations, just make stuff more visual. No homo.
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I love listening to fat boys talk about their extensive lifting knowledge... seriously bro quit talking and apply what you think you're an expert at.

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(11-24-2015 04:32 PM)Oz. Wrote:  I love listening to fat boys talk about their extensive lifting knowledge... seriously bro quit talking and apply what you think you're an expert at.

Fat as in just pure fat or people that lift but are still fat (permabulkers)?
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(11-24-2015 04:41 PM)britchard Wrote:  
(11-24-2015 04:32 PM)Oz. Wrote:  I love listening to fat boys talk about their extensive lifting knowledge... seriously bro quit talking and apply what you think you're an expert at.

Fat as in just pure fat or people that lift but are still fat (permabulkers)?

Like the ones who lift once a month but want to give you advice on why his routines are the best

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