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Last Friday I totally lost myself at the gym doing a back and bicep workout. There isn't a clock and I didn't glance at my phone once.
I only realised when I started to feel faint and light headed that I'd been there for 3 hours and done 52 sets.
Some days I'm just in the zone and can train like that.
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(08-05-2015 08:57 AM)dads Wrote: 1. At what percentage of your max on any lift are you guys working on on a regular basis? I've been trying to find a sweet spot. I've been working at certain weights from the time I started lifting. For example, when benching, my first "main weight" was 185, and then I moved to to 225. In terms of building muscle, as opposed to powerlifting, is this the best option? Or should I be regularly hitting 70-90% of my max on all/some lifts?
So I believe in something called light, medium, heavy. I didn't come up with this, Bob Hoffman did. You train three days a week.
It looks like this:
Day 1: 70% of your max as your best set (or three sets).
Day 2: 85-90% of your max
Day 3: 100% of max, and trying to set new PRs.
Tommy Kono won three Olympic medals with it, so I think it works.
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I've decided to completely switch up my routine.
For a while I'd been doing a chest/shoulder, back/arms, legs split, with 5 training days (only did leg day once a week as I play sports and cycle regularly anyway). I think doing this has helped to get rid of some muscle imbalances. However, I'm at the point where I'm no longer aching after a workout, I need to confuse my muscles again.
To do this, I'm going to start German Volume Training. I've read good things about it, and I'm looking to put on mass for winter. I've researched a routine, which goes like this:
Training day 1: Superset A- Bench Press 10 x 10
Chin ups 10 x 10
Superset B- Dumbell Flys 10 x 10
Dumbell Rows 10 x 10
Training day 2: Superset A- Squats 10 x 10
Leg curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Leg Extensions 3 x 20
Calf raises 3 x 20
Training day 3: Superset A- Parallel bar dips 10 x 10
Hammer Curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Rear lateral raise 3 x 12
Seated lateral raise 3 x 12
This is a 5 day cycle, so it's ON/ON/OFF/ON/OFF, and you repeat that.
There is a rest of 90 seconds between each superset.
Would anyone like me to make a log of my progress and training on here?
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(08-12-2015 11:37 AM)britchard Wrote: I've decided to completely switch up my routine.
For a while I'd been doing a chest/shoulder, back/arms, legs split, with 5 training days (only did leg day once a week as I play sports and cycle regularly anyway). I think doing this has helped to get rid of some muscle imbalances. However, I'm at the point where I'm no longer aching after a workout, I need to confuse my muscles again.
To do this, I'm going to start German Volume Training. I've read good things about it, and I'm looking to put on mass for winter. I've researched a routine, which goes like this:
Training day 1: Superset A- Bench Press 10 x 10
Chin ups 10 x 10
Superset B- Dumbell Flys 10 x 10
Dumbell Rows 10 x 10
Training day 2: Superset A- Squats 10 x 10
Leg curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Leg Extensions 3 x 20
Calf raises 3 x 20
Training day 3: Superset A- Parallel bar dips 10 x 10
Hammer Curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Rear lateral raise 3 x 12
Seated lateral raise 3 x 12
This is a 5 day cycle, so it's ON/ON/OFF/ON/OFF, and you repeat that.
There is a rest of 90 seconds between each superset.
Would anyone like me to make a log of my progress and training on here?
Not sure how much thought you've put into the routine (GVT should only be done for ONE lift) but... the most obvious flaw would be the supersets. You will not be able to super set say 10x10 bench and 10x10 chins, nor 10x10 dips and 10x10 curls (how do you think your forearms and grips are going to cope? what about shoulders and biceps?). You are risking a major bicep tendon inflammation and a variety of shoulder issues.
If you have never done 10x10 before, let me tell you, you're gonna be so pumped doing 1 single lift at 10x10 that you won't be able to do anything else afterwards. Forget those leg works after 10x10 squat, unless you're just squatting your own bodyweight or the empty bar. And 90s rest between sets... that's very optimistic and ambitious!
Unless you have a training history with insanely high volume, I suggest a new plan, or drop everything off the 10x10 train except one lift that you really want to focus on.
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RE: Lifter's Lounge
(08-12-2015 11:37 AM)britchard Wrote: I've decided to completely switch up my routine.
For a while I'd been doing a chest/shoulder, back/arms, legs split, with 5 training days (only did leg day once a week as I play sports and cycle regularly anyway). I think doing this has helped to get rid of some muscle imbalances. However, I'm at the point where I'm no longer aching after a workout, I need to confuse my muscles again.
To do this, I'm going to start German Volume Training. I've read good things about it, and I'm looking to put on mass for winter. I've researched a routine, which goes like this:
Training day 1: Superset A- Bench Press 10 x 10
Chin ups 10 x 10
Superset B- Dumbell Flys 10 x 10
Dumbell Rows 10 x 10
Training day 2: Superset A- Squats 10 x 10
Leg curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Leg Extensions 3 x 20
Calf raises 3 x 20
Training day 3: Superset A- Parallel bar dips 10 x 10
Hammer Curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Rear lateral raise 3 x 12
Seated lateral raise 3 x 12
This is a 5 day cycle, so it's ON/ON/OFF/ON/OFF, and you repeat that.
There is a rest of 90 seconds between each superset.
Would anyone like me to make a log of my progress and training on here?
You say you're never sore anymore. Do you or were you doing any overhead press, front squats, RDLs, weighted dips/pullups, good mornings, power/hang cleans or deadlifts? Because if you haven't been doing these and you start doing them, you will be sore as a motherfucker.
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Only One Man:
I can't tell at a regular gym, but the number of strong competitive powerlifters in my weight class and adjacent ones has exploded in the last couple of years. So many crazy strong young guys...
(08-12-2015 10:10 PM)Truth Teller Wrote: StrikeBack, what were your results like?
The 20 rep squats?
I did it on and off for a year. I went from 80kg x20 to 120kg x20 by the end, bodyweight ~80-ish kg. BF% was high then though. I have very nice leg muscles now thanks to it, but there are better ways to do legs.
I did it twice a week at first, then just down to once a week. I'd spend the whole week dreading the session, then after the session, I left the gym feeling horrible and didn't want to go out or do anything else.
For that one or two sessions, I could've squatted heavy every single day and gained way better strength and size.
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(08-12-2015 11:14 PM)Only One Man Wrote: (08-12-2015 11:37 AM)britchard Wrote: I've decided to completely switch up my routine.
For a while I'd been doing a chest/shoulder, back/arms, legs split, with 5 training days (only did leg day once a week as I play sports and cycle regularly anyway). I think doing this has helped to get rid of some muscle imbalances. However, I'm at the point where I'm no longer aching after a workout, I need to confuse my muscles again.
To do this, I'm going to start German Volume Training. I've read good things about it, and I'm looking to put on mass for winter. I've researched a routine, which goes like this:
Training day 1: Superset A- Bench Press 10 x 10
Chin ups 10 x 10
Superset B- Dumbell Flys 10 x 10
Dumbell Rows 10 x 10
Training day 2: Superset A- Squats 10 x 10
Leg curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Leg Extensions 3 x 20
Calf raises 3 x 20
Training day 3: Superset A- Parallel bar dips 10 x 10
Hammer Curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Rear lateral raise 3 x 12
Seated lateral raise 3 x 12
This is a 5 day cycle, so it's ON/ON/OFF/ON/OFF, and you repeat that.
There is a rest of 90 seconds between each superset.
Would anyone like me to make a log of my progress and training on here?
You say you're never sore anymore. Do you or were you doing any overhead press, front squats, RDLs, weighted dips/pullups, good mornings, power/hang cleans or deadlifts? Because if you haven't been doing these and you start doing them, you will be sore as a motherfucker.
Yeah, I did OHP and deadlifts and occasionally did front squats.
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(08-12-2015 07:50 PM)StrikeBack Wrote: (08-12-2015 11:37 AM)britchard Wrote: I've decided to completely switch up my routine.
For a while I'd been doing a chest/shoulder, back/arms, legs split, with 5 training days (only did leg day once a week as I play sports and cycle regularly anyway). I think doing this has helped to get rid of some muscle imbalances. However, I'm at the point where I'm no longer aching after a workout, I need to confuse my muscles again.
To do this, I'm going to start German Volume Training. I've read good things about it, and I'm looking to put on mass for winter. I've researched a routine, which goes like this:
Training day 1: Superset A- Bench Press 10 x 10
Chin ups 10 x 10
Superset B- Dumbell Flys 10 x 10
Dumbell Rows 10 x 10
Training day 2: Superset A- Squats 10 x 10
Leg curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Leg Extensions 3 x 20
Calf raises 3 x 20
Training day 3: Superset A- Parallel bar dips 10 x 10
Hammer Curls 10 x 10
Superset B- Rear lateral raise 3 x 12
Seated lateral raise 3 x 12
This is a 5 day cycle, so it's ON/ON/OFF/ON/OFF, and you repeat that.
There is a rest of 90 seconds between each superset.
Would anyone like me to make a log of my progress and training on here?
Not sure how much thought you've put into the routine (GVT should only be done for ONE lift) but... the most obvious flaw would be the supersets. You will not be able to super set say 10x10 bench and 10x10 chins, nor 10x10 dips and 10x10 curls (how do you think your forearms and grips are going to cope? what about shoulders and biceps?). You are risking a major bicep tendon inflammation and a variety of shoulder issues.
If you have never done 10x10 before, let me tell you, you're gonna be so pumped doing 1 single lift at 10x10 that you won't be able to do anything else afterwards. Forget those leg works after 10x10 squat, unless you're just squatting your own bodyweight or the empty bar. And 90s rest between sets... that's very optimistic and ambitious!
Unless you have a training history with insanely high volume, I suggest a new plan, or drop everything off the 10x10 train except one lift that you really want to focus on.
I see your point but all weights are done at 50-60% of my 1RM. 10 chin ups, followed my 10 reps on the bench press, then a 90 second rest. That's not too bad is it?
Anyway, I'm going to do my first session tonight, so I'll see how that goes. I want to keep the volume really high, so if it's too hard I might just drop the weight.
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I got my bloodwork back, it went well. The nurse gave me a full rundown on it.
She said she hadn't seen anybody with that much good cholesterol in months and my blood pressure and non-fasted glucose would be great even if I weren't a smoker. My non-fasted glucose was well into the fasted range. I basically eat nothing but meat, ramen noodles, whey, supplements, and diet coke too, lol.
Yeah guys, keep on lifting and eating handfuls of fish oil pills, that shit works. I can't wait to get the juicer set up and try out some of MikeCF's recipes from his fit juice books and see how that changes things.
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(08-14-2015 06:41 AM)Hades Wrote: I got my bloodwork back, it went well. The nurse gave me a full rundown on it.
She said she hadn't seen anybody with that much good cholesterol in months and my blood pressure and non-fasted glucose would be great even if I weren't a smoker. My non-fasted glucose was well into the fasted range. I basically eat nothing but meat, ramen noodles, whey, supplements, and diet coke too, lol.
Yeah guys, keep on lifting and eating handfuls of fish oil pills, that shit works. I can't wait to get the juicer set up and try out some of MikeCF's recipes from his fit juice books and see how that changes things.
Hades, how many cigarettes would you typically smoke in a day?
What effect do you find that it has on your fitness regimen as a whole?
I've developed a small habit over the last couple months that I think I wanna kick. It's maybe 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and a small joint before I go to sleep .
I've had to step away from basketball due to repeated foot issues so I've just been lifting heavy and not doing any real intense cardiovascular stuff so I maybe I'm just noticing the damage it's doing.
Just curious to your take.
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(08-14-2015 10:23 AM)Blackwell Wrote: (08-14-2015 06:41 AM)Hades Wrote: I got my bloodwork back, it went well. The nurse gave me a full rundown on it.
She said she hadn't seen anybody with that much good cholesterol in months and my blood pressure and non-fasted glucose would be great even if I weren't a smoker. My non-fasted glucose was well into the fasted range. I basically eat nothing but meat, ramen noodles, whey, supplements, and diet coke too, lol.
Yeah guys, keep on lifting and eating handfuls of fish oil pills, that shit works. I can't wait to get the juicer set up and try out some of MikeCF's recipes from his fit juice books and see how that changes things.
Hades, how many cigarettes would you typically smoke in a day?
What effect do you find that it has on your fitness regimen as a whole?
I've developed a small habit over the last couple months that I think I wanna kick. It's maybe 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and a small joint before I go to sleep .
I've had to step away from basketball due to repeated foot issues so I've just been lifting heavy and not doing any real intense cardiovascular stuff so I maybe I'm just noticing the damage it's doing.
Just curious to your take.
I'd be surprised if so few cigarettes had any noticeable effect.
Obviously not a great reason not to stop but still...
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(08-14-2015 10:23 AM)Blackwell Wrote: (08-14-2015 06:41 AM)Hades Wrote: I got my bloodwork back, it went well. The nurse gave me a full rundown on it.
She said she hadn't seen anybody with that much good cholesterol in months and my blood pressure and non-fasted glucose would be great even if I weren't a smoker. My non-fasted glucose was well into the fasted range. I basically eat nothing but meat, ramen noodles, whey, supplements, and diet coke too, lol.
Yeah guys, keep on lifting and eating handfuls of fish oil pills, that shit works. I can't wait to get the juicer set up and try out some of MikeCF's recipes from his fit juice books and see how that changes things.
Hades, how many cigarettes would you typically smoke in a day?
What effect do you find that it has on your fitness regimen as a whole?
I've developed a small habit over the last couple months that I think I wanna kick. It's maybe 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and a small joint before I go to sleep .
I've had to step away from basketball due to repeated foot issues so I've just been lifting heavy and not doing any real intense cardiovascular stuff so I maybe I'm just noticing the damage it's doing.
Just curious to your take.
I wouldn't trip about that. 2-3 cigarettes worth of pollution is probably what the average pedestrian in Hong Kong inhales on the way to work.
I probably go through about half a pack a day.
It makes some difference, you have to take longer between sets of big compound movements - for instance I think doing back squats sucks a little worse. For hitting upper body and smaller joints though it makes no difference whatsoever. I never liked cardio and never did it so I have not much to comment there.
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