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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
The council of Rotherham believes it no longer has anything to answer because the majority of people involved have quit. And you know what? They will get away with it.

Meanwhile sexual violence being perpetuated by those from different countries is continuing. I would hazard a guess that the increase in Jewish hate is also going hand-in-hand with the increasing Muslim population and their sympathisers.

For people looking from the outside it must be a clear-cut case to solve. Find the perpetrators and get rid of them. Not so. The human rights act and EU ruling overrules the British courts on these issues and demand we keep them and stop harassing them.

They're doing pathetic sentences and will be out before 2020. They won't stop doing this.
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(02-06-2015 01:14 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  People need to stop comparing Muslim immigrants in Europe to Mexican immigrants.....someone did this in another thread, maybe mikado because it was someone trying to downplay Muslim problems and point the finger in other directions. Theres no comparison what so ever and if you actually lived in the US you would know that

Yes - it was Mikado just a few posts before comparing Muslim immigrants in Europe to Mexican immigrants in the US who also go and do rape gangs.

Also he compared some supposedly "Christian" roving bands in Africa to Muslim terrorists. Do you fucking know what the bloody difference is between those 2 things?

The roving bands of thugs in Africa don't do it out of religious reasons like Christianity. Even the comparison to the the Crusades stinks, because they were mostly defensive maneuvers to Muslim attacks and slaughters coming beforehand.

Go and find some Mexican and Christian gang rapists - here my google search - nothing on Christian gang rapists, but Muslim gang rapists who raped and killed a Christian nun: http://pamelageller.com/2014/08/muslim-m...agai.html/

The problem is that Islam is simply a religion of War - that is how it was designed to be - for conquest and domination. Christianity, religions of Hinduism, Judaism and Buddhism have their own special problems and can be misused for conquest, but they are all religions promoting peace - in fact early Christianity was sometimes misused by kings who subjugated entire tribes by first bringing them Christianity and then telling them that non-aggression is a virtue and they should let him take them over.

I know it's painful to realize that the religion you have been born with and which has also produced great saints like Rumi and Shams-I-Tabriz is essentially a negative one that needs to be taken with a healthy distance. That concerns many religions as well - Christianity was too dogmatic and was stifling science, Hinduism is too static promoting the caste system and Judaism is sometimes too supremacist, but at least their core is truly peaceful.

Why do you have to repeat 1000 times:

"Feminism is all about equality!"
"Socialism and Marxism is all about distribution of wealth!"
"Islam is a religion of peace!"
"Satanism is just a different form of atheism!"

I've heard that a couple of times, but would not believe it, because if something is constructed negatively to promote war-like domination and expansion to rule over everyone who does not believe in you, well then it's not a religion of peace - it's a clever religion of war, that some saints like Rumi or Khalil Gibran have been able to live in and rise in consciousness. Just like St. Franics of Assissi was lightyears ahead of the pope and the stifling Christian church doctrine.

But at least their teachings were based on a saint and not a warlord. And no one in his bloody mind will believe in the fact that if 30%-40% of the UK's population will be Muslim, that they will just let the rest of the British live as before.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main...-1-7088666

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/...tion-susie

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/...res-report

Quote:Casey said she considered it an uncontested fact that children in Rotherham were “sexually exploited by men who came largely from the Pakistani heritage community” and that not enough was done to acknowledge this, stop it happening, protect children, support victims and apprehend perpetrators.

Yet on arriving in Rotherham she found a council in denial. “They denied that there had been a problem, or if there had been, that it was as big as was said. If there was a problem they certainly were not told – it was someone else’s job. They were no worse than anyone else. They had won awards. The media were out to get them.”

And all those who claim that most of them were just sexually active 13-15 year olds who become prostitutes prematurely, I would say that this is bullshit. There is a good reason, why it's illegal to become a prostitute before age 18. While there is some tolerance to under-age sex in many countries and even fathers would be tolerant if a wealthy 40yo man marries his 16yo daughter and it's big love, the same would not be so if that said 40yo man is a pimp who just wants her to fuck strangers.

I've just seen on TV that one woman reports that she sees the very same child-pimps driving around with young girls as if nothing happened.

But I am sure it's just a coincidence:

[Image: UK-rape-crisis-centers-vs-muslim-population-centers.png]
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^^ Watch out Zelscorpion. Men in suits might come knocking on your door soon.

Your posts are far too close to the truth - i.e. "hate speech"

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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
Another twenty "Asians" arrested yesterday in Newcastle:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...le-8587632

Quote:Those charged:

- Eisa Mousavi, 39, of Todds Nook, Newcastle has been charged with sexual assault by touching on a female 13 or over; intimidating a witness/juror/person assisting the investigation; rape of a female aged 16 or over; supplying or offering to supply a class B controlled drug; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Monjur Choudhury, 30, of Philip Place, Newcastle has been charged with permit use of premises for supply of drugs; supply or offer to supply class B controlled drugs; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Redwan Siddquee, 30, of West Road, Newcastle has been charged with causing or inciting prostitution for gain; supply or offering to supply a class B controlled drug.

- Mohammed Hassan Ali, 32, of Bentinck Street, Newcastle has been charged with a sexual act on a female and possession of mephadrone with intent to supply.

- Abdulhamid Minoyee, 31, of Gainsbrough Grove, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply or offer to supply cannabis; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over.

- Ebrahim Ali, 38, of Wetherby Grove, Gateshead has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; supply or offer to supply a class A controlled drug; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; arrange child prostitution; rape of a female aged 16 or over.

- Habibur Rahim, 32, of Kenilworth Road, Newcastle has been charged with sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over; administering a substance with intent; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over; supply or offering to supply a class B controlled drug; supply or offer to supply cannabis; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Ibrahim Rousel, 34, of Manor Gardens, Wardley has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over and administering a substance with intent.

- Mohammed Khalique, 22, of Beaconsfield Street, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug.

- Mohammed Azram, 33, of Croydon Road, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply of mephadrone; supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; sexual assault by touching a female aged 13 or over; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Nadeem Aslam, 41, of Belle Grove West, Newcastle has been charged with possession of cannabis; possession of mephadrone; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of premises for supply of drugs; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Prabhat Nelli, 31, Corporation Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Taherul Alam, 29, of Normanton Terrace, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; permit the use of premises to supply drugs; sexual assault by touching on a female 13 or over; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Yassar Hussain, 25, of Canning Street, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; permit the use of premises to supply drugs; assault occasioning actual bodily harm; possession of mephadrone; possession of amphetamine; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Jahangir Zaman, 41, of Hadrian Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Badrul Hussain, 34, of Drybeck Court, has been charged with rape of a female aged under 16; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of a premises to supply drugs and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Abdul Sabe, 37, of Dean House, Newcastle has been charged with possession of cannabis; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; non-penatrative sexual activity with a girl 13 to 15; supply or offer to supply cannabis; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over and administering a substance with intent.

- Karzan Mohammed, 23, of Graingerville South, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female under 16; falsely imprison/detain another; supply or offer to supply cannabis; assault occasioning actual bodily harm; administering a substance with intent; rape of a female aged 16 or over and trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation.

- Saiful Islam, 32, of Strathmore Crescent, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged under 16 and supply or offer to supply cannabis.

- Nashir Uddin, 33, of Joan Street, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class A controlled drug; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of premises for supply of drugs; rape of a female under 16; causing or inciting prostitution for gain; failing to surrender to custody/respond to bail.

- A 34-year-old man, from Newcastle, has received a summons in relation to a sexual assault and administering a substance with intent.
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(02-06-2015 03:41 PM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ Watch out Zelscorpion. Men in suits might come knocking on your door soon.

Your posts are far too close to the truth - i.e. "hate speech"

If I was living in the West - maybe, but it's not so bad out there yet. Fortunately I am sitting in EE where most people here are not up-to-date yet with all the liberal crap.

Besides - I do have friends who grew up Muslim and they share my opinions, but I guess they would be fined for "hate speech" too if they decided to criticize their own religion publicly.

Probably one day a forum like this will be forbidden or effectively banned one way or another - they don't even have to send you to re-education camp. It would be enough to make internet access only possible via an individual account/iris scan/chip and then they revoke your internet access for a year. There are many ways to enforce a PC culture.
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BBC describes them as "Tyneside men" - is this a Geordie problem?
The continued censorship really pisses me off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-31151445

Yet, when the tables are turned the victim's (and offender's) race is always emphasized.
"A neo-Nazi has been jailed for five years for attacking an Asian man."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south...s-31049053

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I’m a British-Indian guy and it fucks me off when the media uses the word “Asian” to describe the Pakistanis. I agree with the below from Jun 2012:

It's time to stop using the word 'Asians'

Quote:Is it time to stop using the word "Asian"? In recent weeks Britain's Sikh and Hindu communities have complained angrily about the use of the misleading term in reporting of the Rochdale grooming convictions of men of Muslim Pakistani descent. Headlines like “Asian grooming – why we need to talk about sex crime”, “Child sex grooming: the Asian question”, and “Grooming offences committed mostly by Asian men, says ex-Barnardo's chief” show the problem.

Obviously Sikhs and Hindus and other "Asian" non-Muslims, including Jains, Zoroastrians, Christians and Buddhists, don’t want to be associated with sexual grooming of vulnerable white girls. The vast majority of Muslims don’t want to either. The girls targeted in Rochdale, Derby and now in Luton are all non-Muslim.

It is for the Muslim community and its leaders to decide what is behind the trend, and what to do about it; but it is time for politicians and the press to bear in mind that in the context of these sex crimes, as with violent extremism, female genital mutilation, forced marriage and honour killings, the vague term "Asian" serves no purpose. Worse, it besmirches entire swathes of Britons with roots in the Indian subcontinent. It’s encouraging to hear some brave voices filtering through the political minefield: Baroness Warsi recently hit out at the “small minority” of Pakistani men who see white girls as “fair game”; last year, Jack Straw braved criticism for his claim that some Pakistani men see white girls as “easy meat.” But the problem continues: commentators are unwilling to label the perpetrators "Muslim", opting instead to hide behind the fudge of "Asian".

Of course we have to be careful not to label all Muslims sex offenders: but it is simple cowardice to pretend that grooming is not a problem for the Muslim community, but Asians in general.
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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.
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(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

They were Pakistani, a nation which is 97% Muslim. But this is not about Muslims, but Pakistanis. Not Sikhs, not Indians, not Sri Lankans or Afro-Caribbean folks. The rapist gangs are Pakistanis who incidentally profess Islam.

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(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

You can also figure out their religion from their names. There's an almost zero chance of a Hindu, Sikh or Christian Indian/Pakistani having ones of those names.


(02-06-2015 03:46 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  - Prabhat Nelli, 31, Corporation Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

He could possibly come from a Hindu background.
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(02-06-2015 08:47 PM)RawGod Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

They were Pakistani, a nation which is 97% Muslim. But this is not about Muslims, but Pakistanis. Not Sikhs, not Indians, not Sri Lankans or Afro-Caribbean folks. The rapist gangs are Pakistanis who incidentally profess Islam.

So, basically, no proof, but a lot of hand-waving and "b-b-but, they were Pakistani, and Pakistanis are like Muslim and stuff...".

Yeah, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but that's kind of weak evidence.

(02-06-2015 08:50 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

You can also figure out their religion from their names. There's an almost zero chance of a Hindu, Sikh or Christian Indian/Pakistani having ones of those names.

Names:

Zafran Ramzan
Razwan Razaq
Umar Razaq
Adil Hussain
Mohsin Khan

The last one, at the very least, I would've assumed is Hindu or possibly a Sikh from his name alone.

I mean, if we're going with the assumption that one can tell one's religion from a name.
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(02-06-2015 09:06 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Mohsin Khan

The last one, at the very least, I would've assumed is Hindu or possibly a Sikh from his name alone.

I mean, if we're going with the assumption that one can tell one's religion from a name.

Almost anybody in South Asia with the last name Khan is a Muslim. That's definitely not a Hindu or Sikh name.
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(02-06-2015 09:07 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 09:06 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Mohsin Khan

The last one, at the very least, I would've assumed is Hindu or possibly a Sikh from his name alone.

I mean, if we're going with the assumption that one can tell one's religion from a name.

Almost anybody in South Asia with the last name Khan is a Muslim. That's definitely not a Hindu or Sikh name.

Hmm, interesting. I'll look into it (not particularly familiar with Asian/Middle-Eastern naming conventions). Just like to verify facts for myself, if possible.
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(02-06-2015 09:06 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:47 PM)RawGod Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

They were Pakistani, a nation which is 97% Muslim. But this is not about Muslims, but Pakistanis. Not Sikhs, not Indians, not Sri Lankans or Afro-Caribbean folks. The rapist gangs are Pakistanis who incidentally profess Islam.

So, basically, no proof, but a lot of hand-waving and "b-b-but, they were Pakistani, and Pakistanis are like Muslim and stuff...".

Yeah, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but that's kind of weak evidence.

(02-06-2015 08:50 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

You can also figure out their religion from their names. There's an almost zero chance of a Hindu, Sikh or Christian Indian/Pakistani having ones of those names.

Names:

Zafran Ramzan
Razwan Razaq
Umar Razaq
Adil Hussain
Mohsin Khan

The last one, at the very least, I would've assumed is Hindu or possibly a Sikh from his name alone.

I mean, if we're going with the assumption that one can tell one's religion from a name.

Mate, you are a dick. Get back to Reddit with your passive aggressive bullshit.

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(02-06-2015 09:25 PM)RawGod Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 09:06 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:47 PM)RawGod Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

They were Pakistani, a nation which is 97% Muslim. But this is not about Muslims, but Pakistanis. Not Sikhs, not Indians, not Sri Lankans or Afro-Caribbean folks. The rapist gangs are Pakistanis who incidentally profess Islam.

So, basically, no proof, but a lot of hand-waving and "b-b-but, they were Pakistani, and Pakistanis are like Muslim and stuff...".

Yeah, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but that's kind of weak evidence.

(02-06-2015 08:50 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 08:36 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Quick question: is there any proof that the Rotherham rapists were actually Muslim? No pagans, atheists, Buddhists, Christians, deists, agnostics? Muslim, every single one of them?

All I can find is that they are Pakistani/Indian men. No mention of Islam whatsoever. Unless people can read minds.

And if you automatically equate that to Muslim because Middle-Eastern => Islam, well, I can just as easily point to Mexican street gangs and go Latino => Christian.

You can also figure out their religion from their names. There's an almost zero chance of a Hindu, Sikh or Christian Indian/Pakistani having ones of those names.

Names:

Zafran Ramzan
Razwan Razaq
Umar Razaq
Adil Hussain
Mohsin Khan

The last one, at the very least, I would've assumed is Hindu or possibly a Sikh from his name alone.

I mean, if we're going with the assumption that one can tell one's religion from a name.

Mate, you are a dick. Get back to Reddit with your passive aggressive bullshit.

So, you don't even wanna do this like civilized people?

OK, I'll just come straight out and say it:

Your have provided no evidence, and are pissed I called you on your bullshit, even if I tried to soften the blow somewhat.
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(02-06-2015 09:54 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Your have provided no evidence, and are pissed I called you on your bullshit, even if I tried to soften the blow somewhat.

We need to prove to you that Pakistanis are devout Muslims?

Gtfo
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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
(02-06-2015 09:12 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 09:07 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(02-06-2015 09:06 PM)Arphalanx Wrote:  Mohsin Khan

The last one, at the very least, I would've assumed is Hindu or possibly a Sikh from his name alone.

I mean, if we're going with the assumption that one can tell one's religion from a name.

Almost anybody in South Asia with the last name Khan is a Muslim. That's definitely not a Hindu or Sikh name.

Hmm, interesting. I'll look into it (not particularly familiar with Asian/Middle-Eastern naming conventions). Just like to verify facts for myself, if possible.

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02-07-2015 02:30 AM
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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
A related incident:

http://news.sky.com/story/1422694/rother...ceman-dies

Police officer who was under investigation for approaching girls who had reported sexual abuse.

Can't say I'm bothered by his death, as he seems an unscrupulous type.
02-07-2015 02:53 AM
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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
A short comment on generalization.

"All ravens are black"

You spot one white raven. So you must reject the statement, logically.

Does this make the statement 100% untrue? No. You must replace the generalizing statement with a truer statement to do that.

Karl Popper never meant people to stop making generalizing statements, he wanted us to strive for ever "better" (ie more truth containing) statements.

It's fine to deduct from evidence "all ravens are black", as long as you keep trying to make the statement more true. That way it's possible to uncover the root cause of a problem/phenomenon.

Some people act like generalization in itself is a logic-defying, if not immoral, concept
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Showing a nation is 97% muslim isn't proof for the reddit "skeptic." Proof that retardation is real. Names with Mohammed? How do we know that's Muslim??????!!!?!!11

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By the way, using the word "asian" to describe Muslims is laughable.

Asia is the largest continent and covers probably 70% of the world's population.

Calling someone an "asian" has got to be one of the most meaningless classifications. Why not just go one step further and call the rapists "sentient beings from earth"?

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RE: 1400 Children in Rotherham raped but police did nothing bc fear of being racist
(02-06-2015 10:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  What is your bloody point?

Sweden has plenty of fantastic achievements and is still by far safer than many countries, but importing 1% of your bloody population each bloody year via immigration of people who are significantly different from your own is just crazy. If it were Germans, British or even Polish it would not be so bad, but Muslims from countries like Somalia? Also don't forget that many will be having children en masse since that is richly funded by the taxpayer there - that is what is going so wrong there and Sweden is indeed a test-bed for those kind of policies.

You seem to be a strange kind of troll who extolls the virtues of Sweden while also believing in the fairy tales of libertarian 18th century brutal ass-rape economics.

Whether the life quality predictions of the UN will come true remains to be seen - it is just one additional indicator.

The point I want to make is that one should be careful when speaking about subjects that one knows very little about. It is perfectly fine to ask questions in search for more knowledge, but when one senselessly repeats the chant, not bothering to ask how the heck the pieces fit together in the larger narrative, one treads on thin ice.

You are correct in that mass-immigration in Sweden is a huge problem, perhaps the only issue worth discussing because the repercussions overshadows everything else.

But then you go off-ramp, from what I can read you are about as knowledgeable on Swedish politics as I am on the workings of Iowa. Your choice of linkage equals about the same level as the tumblr-garbage feminists love, a few indisputable truths, some distortions and everything topped of with smearing and obvious frauds. What is speaking out in thunderous silence is what's missing, any realistic inference. Yet you feel entitled to believe that your opinion should be respected and hold any weight.

The thing about unsustainable developments, are that they collapse before they reach their final conclusion. Your idea that Sweden is an extreme unique case is only true if you go by which the fervor that the chattering classes preach the gospel of multiculturalism and the extreme rate that has been sustained for the last dozen or so years, the latter is very likely to discontinue or reverse since it is extremely unsustainable. A catastrophic scenario a la Easter Island is not impossible, but extremely unlikely considered everything else. Demographically, there is little difference between the more developed European nations.

As for my views on economics, they mostly correspond to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_..._economics , linking Rothbard when he is wearing his historian hat doesn't make me Libertarian or classical liberal in any way, I consider him to be the cyclops-King in the land of the blind. He has written a few interesting things, but he is sadly lacking depth-perception.
02-08-2015 11:51 AM
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(02-08-2015 11:51 AM)DeWitt Wrote:  You are correct in that mass-immigration in Sweden is a huge problem, perhaps the only issue worth discussing because the repercussions overshadows everything else.

But then you go off-ramp, from what I can read you are about as knowledgeable on Swedish politics as I am on the workings of Iowa. Your choice of linkage equals about the same level as the tumblr-garbage feminists love, a few indisputable truths, some distortions and everything topped of with smearing and obvious frauds. What is speaking out in thunderous silence is what's missing, any realistic inference. Yet you feel entitled to believe that your opinion should be respected and hold any weight.
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You are missing the point here - basically THE MAIN POINT IS MUSLIM MASS IMMIGRATION to Sweden in the vicinity of one fucking 1% of the population a year coupled with the fact that they have children like rabbits, because they are financially supported by the country.

You might wonder why the 1-2 mio. Polish immigrants in the UK don't produce an equal amount of problems as those with a Pakistani descent?

I don't have to agree with everything to linking to something if it's fitting to the discussion at hand. I don't share this person's phobia of inter-racial relations, but I would not promote it - similar to homosexuality. Sweden is currently promoting that very thing for agenda-driven reasons.
02-08-2015 12:50 PM
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