I'm Touring The United States! Starting in June, I'm conducting private events in 23 American cities. Click here for full details.

Post Reply 
If the Manosphere is to move forward
Author Message
Kaii Offline
Woodpecker
**
Gold Member

Posts: 340
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 4
Post: #26
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-23-2014 02:05 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  
(09-23-2014 01:00 PM)Glaucon Wrote:  I do not want the manosphere to be mainstream.

I agree with Glaucon. We have absolutely nothing to gain by going mainstream and stand to lose a great deal, starting with our solidarity.

I totally agree. This thread is coming across a pretentious. That might not be the goal of the post, but it's sounds that way.

"When in chaos, speak truth." - Jordan Peterson
09-23-2014 02:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
tonipepperoni Offline
Banned

Posts: 191
Joined: Aug 2013
Post: #27
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-23-2014 02:14 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  The Manosphere/Game/Red Pill is not meant for everyone. Most people need to remain blue pill because their very identities are so deeply rooted within mainstream thought.

What we offer is the path to self improvement, freeing your mind from self limiting beliefs, and the ability to take on the world on your own terms. By arming yourself with our knowledge you become the embodiment of what everyone still plugged in wishes they could be. It's probably the most difficult change any man could endeavor for himself. That's why we sit alone at the top, completely immune to the horse shit everyone else is caught up in. They can't see us but we can see them, that's the way it has to be.

I disagree with you. While this is the intention, the manosphere fails because most RedPillers live under the slavedom of Western Progressivism under the regulation of "The Cathedral".

It's a world of cognitive dissonance.

It's like understanding that your female work colleague is a femcunt, but being unable to rightfully insult her. At most you've only able to insult her on these forums. That's where your freedoms remain limited.

No one is fully gaming society to work for them, at most, even powerful celebrities have to run through various filters before the "Cathedral" is able to grant them any sort of power.

For this reason you and I live under the social paradigms which are operated by repressive postmodern institution that perform surveillance on the human psyche.

You probably understand the forces at work, you see the decline, but for the most part, you're powerless in establishing true institutional change and therefore have to resort to the internet to find comradrey, support, guidance.

As I said, it's like Fight Club without the final scene... How long will guys beat each other up? Years and Years? They only did what they did because Fight Club was a change in system, it was a revolutionary force, a belief, a religion.

What we have right now is disorganized observations/frustrations -- arbitrary emotions. We've effectively become women.
09-23-2014 02:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
TravelerKai Offline
Peacock
******
Gold Member

Posts: 7,390
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 281
Post: #28
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
I jumped on this a little too late, but just to keep it short and to the point I will say that the Manosphere is not ready for the mainstream just yet. The best thing the Manosphere and RVF can do is just be in a good position as society continues to fall apart and be that guiding light and lamp post for the men who begin to wander about seeking reason.

We are doing the best we can right now and that is good enough for now. We must learn to crawl before we can walk. Someday we may jump further into the fray, but we need to wait for the damage by feminists and their whiteknights to be enough to warrant the effort. I can see prominent politicians coming out of places like RVF, Dalrock, or Chateau etc.. Now just isn't the time. Let's improve ourselves to a place other men can find inspiration in and will want to strive to follow in our footsteps first. After that the rest will come easier.

Our commitments to self improvement will carry us through. The rest will come when the time is right.

Dating Guide for Mainland China Datasheet
TravelerKai's Martial Arts Datasheet
1 John 4:20 - If anyone says, I love God, and hates (detests, abominates) his brother [in Christ], he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, Whom he has not seen.
09-23-2014 02:34 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 8 users Like TravelerKai's post:
Kingsley Davis, Kaii, SteveMcMahon, Avon Barksdale, Fighting888, Akula, blacknwhitespade, Bushido
AnonymousBosch Away
Crow
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 5,374
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation: 262
Post: #29
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-23-2014 11:06 AM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  It needs to be less exhaustive; it needs to be tailored for the sake of brevity.

It doesn't 'need' to be anything.

I was drawn to the manosphere because I was able to read complex societal ideas discussed at length by intelligent writers without the restriction of being tailored to short-attention spans and oppressive word counts.

All else is Buzzfeed and Clickbait.

Quote:If we are to take on the masses seriously ..

There is no hope in the proles. They will always choose whatever is easy over whatever is right, as long as their comforts and distractions are in place.

Quote:we need to look at South Park. South Park portrays politically incorrect messages through dark humor.

The fact that South Park is tolerated by the media without complaint proves its own irrelevance. Its fangs are capped and is of no real threat to the status quo. It offers no solutions. It believes in nothing. It's the smartarse kid in black sitting at the back of the class sneering at the 'sheeple'. South Park's main cultural contribution is simply making fun of celebrities with an extremely-fast turnaround. It's an intermittently-amusing distraction, and nothing more.

Quote:All of us desire some sort of violence. All of us want to see Anita Sarkessian arrested for faking threats. All of us want to see Gawker collapse inwards. We want to see things collapse. It's in our nature to watch things crumble. It's entertainment at its finest.

That's a good way to get us classified as a 'hate group'.

I don't care about what women say they want from men, because I respond to what they do, so Female Typists raising their voices in a unified whine makes no difference to my life. I just stay fit and dominant, and dismiss their whining with humour or by slyly speaking the truth from a place of what seems to be intellectual-inferiority. I'm very good at appearing 'dumb-but-insightful' to women. I made fun of Emma Watson on Facebook yesterday, through humour - and, thanks to the guys on here - was able to point out her aggressive rugby player boyfriend and her submissive body language to him, and ended up with 'likes' from women.

Know how to thrive under restriction, because, we are all restricted, and will always be restricted in any 'free' society. A strong, dominant man still wins out under feminism by being rewarded with pussy. An exceptionally-fit man will always find a quality woman, because there's always women who understand how sexual attraction actually works.

All the heterosexual female typists readily-admit they prefer banging bad boys through their 20's before snagging a 'nice guy' post-wall. So, be the bad boy, bang the 20-year-olds, and leave the whining and power posturing for the nice guys to deal with.

I don't care about Sarkeesian being 'punished' because there is always another Sarkeesian. Current feminist thought and speaking points have analogues in - and are often exactly the same points as - Victorian Feminist Thought. There will always be Upper Class Women on a mission to change the world, because the low emotional resilience created by privilege always results in entirely-predictable hysterical behaviour.

The female privilege that produces this kind of whiny, low emotional resilience - Emma Watson is a perfect example - is built on the high emotional-resilience of men, and can only be destroyed by eradicating that comfort. If feminists get their way - boys are made fragile and whiny and no longer want to do the heavy lifting society requires - their comfort will crumble and men like me will win out.

Do you really think Watson wonders who grows the food that appears on her plate? Does she ever stop to consider who takes away her garbage, or keeps the sewerage running? Her privilege allows her to be self-obsessed.

Quote: As I said, it's like Fight Club without the final scene... How long will guys beat each other up? Years and Years? They only did what they did because Fight Club was a change in system, it was a revolutionary force, a belief, a religion.

Fight Club was a fictional homoerotic power fantasy written by a gay man. It's as useful a real world model for male behaviour as 'Sex In The City' is to women.
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2014 03:39 PM by AnonymousBosch.)
09-23-2014 03:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 19 users Like AnonymousBosch's post:
TheWastelander, SteveMcMahon, DjembaDjemba, Avon Barksdale, TigerMandingo, DJ-Matt, Professor Fox, Xntrik, Days of Broken Arrows, Yatagan, Kingsley Davis, Suits, Master Of My Own Kingdom, Zep, CRR, Akula, Windom Earle, HawkWrites, Matt Forney
AnonymousBosch Away
Crow
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 5,374
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation: 262
Post: #30
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-23-2014 02:23 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  It's like understanding that your female work colleague is a femcunt, but being unable to rightfully insult her. At most you've only able to insult her on these forums.

You don't need to insult her. You treat her like an invisible man, ignore her flirtations, then introduce her to your beautiful, younger, feminine girlfriend at the work Christmas Party.
09-23-2014 03:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 11 users Like AnonymousBosch's post:
JoyStick, TheWastelander, Avon Barksdale, TigerMandingo, Days of Broken Arrows, kbell, Master Of My Own Kingdom, Deluge, casio, Akula, Matt Forney
RXB Offline
Woodpecker
**

Posts: 276
Joined: Oct 2012
Reputation: 7
Post: #31
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
First off, I just want to say that the manosphere doesn't "need" to be anything. It doesn't need to be mainstream, if it ever reaches that point it will be watered down to meaninglessness, and it doesn't need to reach the masses.

Guys have this grand vision where every man on Earth sees one manosphere blog post and then feminism is overthrown and order is brought to the world.

It ain't happening.

I've showed men, back when I was more naive, blogs. And you know what happened? They either got weirded out or they ignored the information. The only dude who agreed already had a lot of manosphere viewpoints.

Most men get propaganda shoved down their throats to the point where they can't even accept an alternative.

You'd be better off focusing on bettering yourself, moving abroad, and making some paper. Let the common man figure it out when he's finally reached his breaking point.

Secondly, I find it funny that the man with no blog and no voice outside a forum (abeit a good forum) knows what the entire manosphere needs. Also, he made this dump: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-35500.html yet was somehow concerned about other people being too whiny.
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2014 06:48 PM by RXB.)
09-23-2014 06:46 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like RXB's post:
Barron, Kingsley Davis, El Chinito loco
RawGod Offline
Hummingbird
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 3,038
Joined: Jun 2012
Reputation: 35
Post: #32
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-23-2014 03:37 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Fight Club was a fictional homoerotic power fantasy written by a gay man. It's as useful a real world model for male behaviour as 'Sex In The City' is to women.

Ouch, there's a sacred cow popped...

I love/loved the movie. It was a shot in the arm back when there were no communities like this, and served as a raised finger, not a blueprint.

Dr Johnson rumbles with the RawGod. And lives to regret it.

I have had this sig since 2015 and received thousands of post likes; yet not one person has commented on my sig. Perhaps you're familiar with the work it parodies? Let me know!
09-23-2014 07:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like RawGod's post:
Kingsley Davis, Avon Barksdale
Tuthmosis Offline
Peacock
******
Gold Member

Posts: 8,884
Joined: Jan 2011
Reputation: 218
Post: #33
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
I'm amused by the idea of a guy with less than 200 posts to his name--a not-insignificant portion of which got reported for trolling--is telling anyone on this forum how to do anything, never mind telling the manosphere what it "should" be doing.

(09-23-2014 11:06 AM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Tuthmosis had the right idea in trolling the masses, but at the end of the day, he merely infuriated hundreds and thousands of people (a good thing), without any persuasive value (a bad thing).

This comment is just plain idiotic. I didn't "troll" the masses, which is a repetition of a feminist-white knight talking point. I provoked and challenged those people with legitimate manosphere views (and more importantly, worldview) presented in an accessible way. They got slapped in the face--maybe for the first time in their miserable online lives--with a taste of how men really think and talk. Persuasive value? How do you know I didn't persuade anyone or put more asses in the manosphere seats? My shit was on a dozen mainstream sites.

What did you expect: an overnight revolution in the streets over a couple of blog posts?

   

Tuthmosis Twitter | IRT Twitter
09-23-2014 08:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 18 users Like Tuthmosis's post:
Avon Barksdale, DjembaDjemba, Kingsley Davis, TigerMandingo, AnonymousBosch, Billy Chubbs, Master Of My Own Kingdom, TravelerKai, TheWastelander, DJ-Matt, Atlantic, 2Wycked, CRR, Akula, Ocelot, DaveR, HawkWrites, Matt Forney
Deluge Offline
Hummingbird
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 3,995
Joined: Jun 2011
Reputation: 76
Post: #34
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
I don't think tonipepporini was a troll per se, but it became apparent to me about a month ago that he is not quite right mentally, while reading his some of his posts in the big Australia thread and his PM's. It's ironic that a guy who boasted endlessly about how aristocratic and elite his life is would envision himself as the next Karl Marx and call for revolution in the streets.

This is what happens to failed "revolutionaries".

[Image: Bungee-saddam.gif]
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2014 03:19 AM by Deluge.)
09-24-2014 03:16 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Private Man Offline
Kingfisher
***
Gold Member

Posts: 709
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 41
Post: #35
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
Regarding the 'sphere being noticed by the mainstream media... it's already happening but hasn't quite stuck.

When I heard the word on NPR the other day, I knew that the 'sphere had crossed the Rubicon.

READ MY BLOG, DAMMIT.

I gots me teh tweets: @man_private

Competence, confidence, charisma, and dominance. What Manospherians want in all men.
09-24-2014 10:18 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
TravelerKai Offline
Peacock
******
Gold Member

Posts: 7,390
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 281
Post: #36
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
Who said manosphere on NPR? Do you remember the person's name or the show?

Dating Guide for Mainland China Datasheet
TravelerKai's Martial Arts Datasheet
1 John 4:20 - If anyone says, I love God, and hates (detests, abominates) his brother [in Christ], he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, Whom he has not seen.
09-24-2014 12:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Private Man Offline
Kingfisher
***
Gold Member

Posts: 709
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 41
Post: #37
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-24-2014 12:01 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Who said manosphere on NPR? Do you remember the person's name or the show?

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/02/343970601/...s-movement

READ MY BLOG, DAMMIT.

I gots me teh tweets: @man_private

Competence, confidence, charisma, and dominance. What Manospherians want in all men.
09-24-2014 03:27 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Quintus Curtius Offline
Crow
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 4,060
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 247
Post: #38
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-24-2014 10:18 AM)Private Man Wrote:  Regarding the 'sphere being noticed by the mainstream media... it's already happening but hasn't quite stuck.

When I heard the word on NPR the other day, I knew that the 'sphere had crossed the Rubicon.


Did they actually use the word "manosphere" or was it just about MRAs? Nobody seems to be talking about us (yet).

That deficiency will be remedied shortly.

| qcurtius.com | Twitter
09-24-2014 03:37 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
TravelerKai Offline
Peacock
******
Gold Member

Posts: 7,390
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 281
Post: #39
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-24-2014 03:27 PM)Private Man Wrote:  
(09-24-2014 12:01 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Who said manosphere on NPR? Do you remember the person's name or the show?

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/02/343970601/...s-movement


I see. Thanks for the link. They were talking about the AVFM/MRA guys. They did not actually name drop us (the manosphere). There is a slight difference between the Manosphere and MRAs, and we bleed into both groups from time to time. Some here are MRA guys and some MRA guys are deep in the manosphere like Peter Andrew Nolan. The mainstream will never understand that though. The MRAs want to protest for legal changes (marriage, divorce, and rapes etc.) while most of us are just banded together in the pursuit of self improvement and solutions to our problems. We usually wiggle around everything that bothers us. Like Bruce Lee, we are like water. Laugh Those MRA types show their faces more and are way more combative publicly. They are usually older men too.

We are still invisible for the time being. Only the FBI and our enemies (the feminists) notice us. Some of our enemies tried to link us, PUA sites, and PUAHate with the Elliot mess and that pretty much failed, due to obvious factors. If the next mass shooter is a heavy contributor on here, well then.. let's just say God forbid that happens. Since we do not show our faces, we are less likely to cause unwanted drama.

Dating Guide for Mainland China Datasheet
TravelerKai's Martial Arts Datasheet
1 John 4:20 - If anyone says, I love God, and hates (detests, abominates) his brother [in Christ], he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, Whom he has not seen.
09-24-2014 03:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes TravelerKai's post:
El Chinito loco
Private Man Offline
Kingfisher
***
Gold Member

Posts: 709
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 41
Post: #40
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
At the very, very beginning of the story is a mention of the Manosphere but pronounced "manasphere".

READ MY BLOG, DAMMIT.

I gots me teh tweets: @man_private

Competence, confidence, charisma, and dominance. What Manospherians want in all men.
09-24-2014 08:43 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Private Man's post:
TravelerKai
BadWolf Offline
Banned

Posts: 717
Joined: Aug 2012
Post: #41
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
One thing I find that the a lot of forums do is immediately tear down a guy who gets banned, that's bs. This guy had a few good points, I don't think he deserved a ban but I'm not an op.

The next logical step for the manosphere is for men to start taking control of marriage and change it so it and the system is equal for both sexes. There is no decline coming unless you mean the Chinese who are on their way to stomp 1st world asses into dust [economically].

When the guys from the manosphere start getting married, having kids and having dominant successful relationships with their significant other, THAT is when we are going to see major change. You have to appeal to the masses and the current PUA/red pill lifestyle doesn't, there simply isn't anything in it for women beyond a quick lay and good sex. You can't change the matrix from the outside. When you put your successful relationship in the public eye and people start asking WHY? then you are going to notice a huge shift as people pay attention to what you have to say... I don't know if PUA guys will ever get to that point or only end up there by mistake after getting someone pregnant.

It's important to get back in the game and be at a high enough level where you can change the rules. We need good women, traditional marriages, high expectations and responsibility to get there. How many men are willing to step in-front of a bullet for another manosphere guy? We have to be that fanatical before things change and I'm not stepping in-front of any bullets for irresponsible, narcissistic, single guys. Participating in the same feministic hedonism is a sure road to failure. What then separates us from feminists and sluts beyond our genitalia?

You can't expect that of women and at the same time go out and act like the very thing you despise. When I read threads where guy gets some chick pregnant and the majority of the responses are telling him how to run away, I seriously question what the end game here is. The manosphere should be promoting values, morals and responsibility important to men. The decline will continue as long as greed and selfishness pervades American minds and the red pill will slowly attract the seedy underside of society just as feminism has done.
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2014 10:24 PM by BadWolf.)
09-24-2014 09:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Soma Away
Ostrich
****
Gold Member

Posts: 1,819
Joined: Feb 2011
Reputation: 56
Post: #42
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-24-2014 03:16 AM)Deluge Wrote:  I don't think tonipepporini was a troll per se, but it became apparent to me about a month ago that he is not quite right mentally, while reading his some of his posts in the big Australia thread and his PM's. It's ironic that a guy who boasted endlessly about how aristocratic and elite his life is would envision himself as the next Karl Marx and call for revolution in the streets.

I was looking forward to more of Marxist pseudo-intellectual Slavoj Zizek quoted non-ironically.

I can't have sex with your personality, and I can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams, so why are you sharing all this information with me?
09-24-2014 10:08 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 7 users Like Soma's post:
scotian, Rutting Elephant, AnonymousBosch, Deluge, Ocelot, tiggaling, Matt Forney
El Chinito loco Offline
Crow
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 4,657
Joined: Aug 2013
Reputation: 70
Post: #43
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-24-2014 03:45 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Those MRA types show their faces more and are way more combative publicly. They are usually older men too.

The difference between your average MRA types and let's say a Rooshv poster is that the life experiences are quite different. The MRA guys i've talked to tend to be converts to red pill thought after some major life changing event like divorce. A lot of them are multiple divorcees from western women and have been financially raked over the coals. They turned to red pill after basically being forced into it by reality. They find refuge in being openly activist because it's their way of trying to make a difference after getting screwed over. Unfortunately, many of them aren't totally red pill and are also very angry too with quite a few are game denialists. Roosh posters on the other hand tend to be a younger set which learned red pill truth by becoming self aware of these issues.

It's not that one is superior over another but oftentimes the MRA objectives and train of thought can be quite different. Unfortunately, they also make the easiest targets in the media because MRA has been tarred and feathered by the mainstream media as an angry old white men movement.
09-24-2014 10:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 7 users Like El Chinito loco's post:
RawGod, Akula, TheWastelander, Kingsley Davis, TravelerKai, Avon Barksdale, Matt Forney
AnonymousBosch Away
Crow
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 5,374
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation: 262
Post: #44
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-24-2014 09:54 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  One thing I find that the a lot of forums do is immediately tear down a guy who gets banned, that's bs. This guy had a few good points, I don't think he deserved a ban but I'm not an op.

He deserved it. I endured the 'Australian Girls Are Shithouse' thread, and am surprised he wasn't already banned as he was obnoxiously-combative when guys posted reasonable experiences that contradicted his own.

He's a guy who had strong beliefs, thought he was the smartest guy in the room, and demanded you'd parrot his beliefs, otherwise he'd Fisk you into submission, Aspie-style.

Read the last few pages of the thread, and you'll understand why his attitude killed it completely. Shame, it was hilarious there for a while.

Admittedly, I thought I liked his analysis of Sydney Girls, but it turned out to be Rawgod's Spot-On Analysis.

This is why he is the only guy I've ever subtly-trolled on here out of annoyance:

Quote:tonipepperoni Wrote:
In many ways sex in australia is like masturbating using someones body, seduction is like two aspergers kids playing a game of chess. It's retarded in that way.

Translation: "I've read Lacan!"

Me, playing dumb so as to seemingly-defer to his superior intellect:

Quote:Anonymous Bosch Wrote:
Where's the 'someone else's body' quote from? I want to say a philosopher... might have been a psych. I remember it being in my reading years back, and thought it accurately-described the way all the gay men I had to work with in my job described their excessive sexual interactions. Wouldn't mind refreshing my memory.

A few posts later:

Quote:tonipepperoni Wrote:
Documentary called 'When Porn Ends'.

Translation: "I accidentally-stumbled across Lacan's concept via late night wanking with SBS!"

tard

Me, playing 'look what I innocently-discovered from researching my curiousity':

Quote:AnonymousBosch Wrote:
Found it, it was a concept of the French Psychoanalyist and Psychologist Jacques Lacan (1901-1981) and tied up with his theories of The Three Orders (Imaginary, Symbolic and The Real) building on Sigmund Freud.

I then give an further expansion of the theory.

Almost immediately:

Quote:tonipepperoni Wrote:
If you read into what I say for example I often use 'ideology' and 'fantasy' in my posts, I am referencing Zizek who is referencing Lacan. Hence my love for the french. Heart


Translation: "Of course I know who Lacan is! I not only know who Lacan is, I know who Lacan influenced."

tard

I knew a guy like this once, who always had to one-up anything you said. My mates and I would joke about him. If you said you bought the new Metallica album, he'd have bought it AND been in the studio whilst they recorded it AND have developed the technology they used to record it. If you bought a car, his car was bigger and more exclusive and had special, unique features that were 'experimental' and 'not available to the general public'. If you banged a model, he'd have banged a Playboy Model. If you said she was a Playboy Model, he'd have banged a Penthouse Black Label Model AND her twin sister at the same time.

Quote:Deluge Wrote:
I don't think tonipepporini was a troll per se, but it became apparent to me about a month ago that he is not quite right mentally, while reading his some of his posts in the big Australia thread and his PM's. It's ironic that a guy who boasted endlessly about how aristocratic and elite his life is would envision himself as the next Karl Marx and call for revolution in the streets.

A Champagne Socialist Elite Aristocratic Thinker singing the praises of South Park?

[Image: A-bit-young-but-seems-legit.jpg]
09-25-2014 12:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 6 users Like AnonymousBosch's post:
Akula, DaveR, DJ-Matt, Handsome Creepy Eel, Patriarch, Matt Forney
RawGod Offline
Hummingbird
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 3,038
Joined: Jun 2012
Reputation: 35
Post: #45
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
TonyPepperoni had some good points which he made in the first page of his thread, then he lost it by aggressively repeating himself over and over. I actually repped him at one point and then removed my rep point when it became clear that he wasn't all there.

You're right AB about the peculiarly Australian aggro and one-upmanship which he had. Ironic that he successfully identified it in the Aussie psyche before giving us a demonstration.

Leave the Scots-Irish in their homeland and they fester away, glassing each other and frying Mars bars. Put them in Appalachia and they develop oddly good music and talent for distilling moonshine, but the sheer stupidity is still there.

Put them in Australia with a whole beautiful, sunshiney continent and it goes to their heads. They stay just as thick but somehow think they are the bee's knees.

And I say that as (half) Anglo-Celtic Aussie myself.

Dr Johnson rumbles with the RawGod. And lives to regret it.

I have had this sig since 2015 and received thousands of post likes; yet not one person has commented on my sig. Perhaps you're familiar with the work it parodies? Let me know!
(This post was last modified: 09-25-2014 01:27 AM by RawGod.)
09-25-2014 01:25 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 5 users Like RawGod's post:
AnonymousBosch, tiggaling, scotian, Tigre, Matt Forney
tiggaling Offline
Kingfisher
***
Gold Member

Posts: 676
Joined: Sep 2012
Reputation: 5
Post: #46
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
Tonipepperoni lost me when he talked about the delights of the "luxury lifestyle", his continual vague use of "sophisticated", "superior" and "refined", his swedish aristocrat friends, and his appreciation for the french riviera.

I mean c'mon dude, I'd venture to say most of us here have seen through the trappings of the "sophisticated" and "refined" lifestyle. It is just consumerism by any other name. It is just stuff. Sure, nice stuff is nice, but we all know that. This site is about being a better man, not getting a better car, because you don't feel like a real man.

I encouraged him to elaborate upon these values, but he never would.

And then he pipes up, saying the manosphere should appeal to "The Plebs"(!) through some sort of animation like South Park and the Yolo youtube clip. All this leads me to believe he was a troll all along!

Or at the very least, he is a bit of a confused and incongruous person, on a superiority trip because he reads french philosophers. Actually, in my book, if you think Derrida is the bomb, that's a tick *against* your name, as it would tend to imply you are a bit of wanker on a disassociated superiority trip.
09-25-2014 03:54 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes tiggaling's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel
RexImperator Offline
Crow
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 5,546
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 27
Post: #47
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
He was pretty interesting...that Australian girls thread went WAY beyond what I ever expected. That said, there could have been a new troll archetype forming..."European intellectual / Euro-baller troll."

Bella, horrida bella
et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno
09-25-2014 09:50 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes RexImperator's post:
JWLZG
Fighting888 Offline
Banned

Posts: 543
Joined: Dec 2013
Post: #48
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
I didn't know there were Scots-Irish in Australia.

Our American Scots-Irish are very fierce, born-fighting types.
09-25-2014 01:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Deluge Offline
Hummingbird
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 3,995
Joined: Jun 2011
Reputation: 76
Post: #49
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
(09-25-2014 01:52 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  I didn't know there were Scots-Irish in Australia.

Our American Scots-Irish are very fierce, born-fighting types.

Everyone descended from the British Isles here has been mixed down to a single ethnic group that we simply call Anglo-Celtic.

(08-24-2014 10:12 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  
(08-24-2014 09:54 PM)Deluge Wrote:  Everyone I know who has moved from Melbourne or Sydney to Perth has told me Perth girls are hotter.

Everyone who moves to Perth moves for one reason: mining $$.

It's a lack-luster city filled with easy pay cheques.

People are simply validating their existence because of the new opportunities that they have for that city which may not be available in Syd/Melb.

This was when I knew for sure toni was off his rocker, denying an objective reality and people's actual real life experiences based on nothing but his own sense of elitism over Perth and bullshit pseudo-intellectual rationalization. I'm disappointed that more people didn't call him out before he was banned.
(This post was last modified: 09-26-2014 03:53 AM by Deluge.)
09-26-2014 03:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
blacknwhitespade Offline
Kingfisher
***

Posts: 652
Joined: May 2014
Reputation: 4
Post: #50
RE: If the Manosphere is to move forward
I think in another 7-10 years when the Millenial generation has ran it's course, and we see the fall out (we're already seeing some of it), red pill/manosphere/game will become mainstream. In another 7-10 years, we're gonna really start to see the bitter spinsters, the broken 35-40yo men with no prospects, the divorces/frivorces, the McJobs, babymomma-raised people en mass, internet hook-ups the norm, political leftism gone off the chain (Hillary's next!), etc, etc, etc.

The early-gen PUAs like David D/Mystery/Strauss were the first reaction to this social tide, now we have Roosh and guys like Dalrock and Winston Wu taking this to a new level. Talking to my peers, it is obvious that I/we are still very much a niche-y subculture, (which I see as a good thing for now), but our ranks are no doubt burgeoning, and I think as more social decay occurs, more men will stumble/find their way to a place like this.
09-26-2014 01:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  The sun sets on the Age of the Manosphere robreke 160 19,446 10-22-2019 11:32 AM
Last Post: Leonard D Neubache
  My thanks to Roosh and the whole of the Manosphere Shinebox 4 1,089 05-05-2019 09:59 AM
Last Post: Shinebox
  Tiger Woods has 'nothing to look forward to' nek 149 53,174 04-17-2019 11:37 AM
Last Post: Sidney Crosby

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Contact Us | RooshV.com | Return to Top | Return to Content | Mobile Version | RSS Syndication