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Finding a job overseas to live as an expat?
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Kissinger2014 Offline

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RE: Finding a job overseas to live as an expat?
If you want a secure expat job using your STEM skills, look at the State Department. They are always hiring security engineers and IT professionals:

You won't get paid a whole lot, but you'll be able to live in a variety of countries, have a security clearance (which can be used to get other jobs), and be involved in pretty cool stuff.
11-17-2014 10:13 PM
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RE: Finding a job overseas to live as an expat?
(11-17-2014 06:13 PM)kongzi Wrote:  
Quote: But from what I hear, Monterrey is rather boring...If you strike out with girls, sounds like there's pretty much nothing to do or see there. It's like the Mexican version of Phoenix. That's another reason I vouch for DF. If you have any other reason to travel other than 100% chasing women, there's endless shit to do and see in Mexico City. It's the "real" Mexico.

Quote: I'd recommend Mexico City as it has a lot of stuff to do during the day tourist-wise

But from what I've gathered about DF, the main attractions are palaces, museums and historical sights. But I'm not interested in any of that stuff. I would like to try real Mexican food

I'm more interested in experiencing this:
Quote:You don't really need much if any game in Mexico. As has been stated on other Mexico threads, chics there when they think you're cute will stare, they will flirt and they will act thirsty. There's none of that indirect shit like in Anglo countries
Lol what?? You still need game and are in for a huge disappointment if you think girls will be fighting each other just to talk to you
11-17-2014 10:59 PM
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RE: Finding a job overseas to live as an expat?
A buddy of mine got a job in Abu Dhabi teaching PE at a government (public) school there. He says they're always looking for math/science/English teachers too although the schools can be rough. Pay was better than in US, in addition to no taxes taken out. Extra perk is a free apartment. He needed legit teaching certificaton and 2 years experience for interview.
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11-18-2014 10:57 AM
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RE: Finding a job overseas to live as an expat?
(10-07-2014 09:48 AM)lskdfjldsf Wrote:  Correct, I'm a US passport holder with nothing else. Very simple actually, but I emphasize, you need to be VERY good at negotiating to jump through the first set of hoops. Learn game first Smile

Find a company that will sponsor you as an international candidate. These are typically startups or small companies that require a more agile and internationally-competent workforce to get on it's feet. I applied exclusively at startups, where getting an interview with a key decision maker and convincing him/her to hire you can all be done during the first round. At the first company I worked at in Germany, I applied on a Sunday, was interviewed Monday, and started at my desk exactly one week later.

One thing to keep in mind is that the visa process can stretch for some time. Without a visa, you are entitled to up to 90 days stay but may not work. Startups are much more willing to bend these rules, and should it be a good fit for both parties, they're (surprisingly) willing to paying you under the table until your paperwork clears. I received my salary tax-free for the first 3 months while my visa was being processed.

Keep in mind that the biggest hurdle in getting a job in Germany is salary. Germany itself is starving for well-paid employees to prop up its bloated welfare state, and as such, the only condition I can recall is salary range. In the Cologne area, a monthly earning of €2,000 will get you cleared. In Hamburg or Munich, you'll need around €3,500 per month. Many companies are also willing to put a "fake" salary on paper so you get accepted without issue.

The visa (called an Aufenthaltstitel) is generally issued for 3 year intervals, with automatic renewals should you continue to be employed. Documents needed for the visa application: copy of highschool diploma, copy of college degree, copy of resume, letter from the company stating why they need you for this job rather than a native or EU resident. Again, most companies are willing to fudge your resume and the letter so you can be accepted more easily.

If you lose your job or quit after your probation period (typically 3-6 months), you can get unemployment benefits, provided you worked at least 18 months. You also have another 3 months to find another job. After you get your initial visa, it's MUCH easier to hop around, and from that point it's just a matter of checking your salary with the Bundesagentur für Arbeit (Federal Work Agency) and getting your visa card extended for more time. I switched jobs twice without issue.

United Kingdom:
The UK is arguably the hardest country to work in as an American, and I would only recommend applying to work here after you've had 5-6 years work experience. You first need to find a company legally capable of sponsoring a foreigner (there is a government database/list somewhere), and get an offer.

The company will need to advertise the position to natives and EU workers on a website called JobCentre Plus, a government job forum. The company I worked for made the qualifications so strict - at least on paper - that the government didn't raise any eyebrows when I was put forward for the visa.

Then you'll need to apply for what's called a "Tier II General Visa" from your previous country of residence. When I got a job in the UK, I needed to schedule an appointment providing all documents (diplomas, passport photo, background check, etc.) and hand over my passport to the British consulate. They then send all this stuff back to the UK, leaving you without a passport for up to 1-2 months. Once you're all cleared, your passport will arrive back with a visa attached.

Shortcuts and other options:
- Working in a high-demand field like engineering, medicine, or computer science will allow you to get an immediate visa in a very short period of time. You are worth your weight in gold in Europe if you work in one of those fields, regardless which country.
- You can also apply for a freelance visa in Germany, allowing you to teach English or pursue other freelance opportunities, provided you work under a certain number of hours. There's an alarming number of Americans teaching English here and living up a college lifestyle without any legal complications. Keep in mind, you'll need to file taxes yourself, and a tax consultant (Steuerberater) can be very expensive.
- Other countries in the EU function in a similar way. Denmark and the Netherlands are probably the hardest, along with France (if you can't speak the language). Spain and Italy are a dead zone economically, not a chance.

Hopefully this helps as a rough guideline. If you have any more specific questions feel free to ask!

Interesting post. I have a PhD in math, work in bioinformatics and am improving my data science skills. I currently work for a research institute (part of a university) in the US but I'm interested in moving to a place like Berlin. My motivations include

-A more interesting place to live (I live in a small conservative town)
-Better and more diverse pool of women
-Better salary (my current salary is not bad but I believe I get a better pay working for a company)
-More opportunity for traveling

There are several research institutes in Berlin but I don't know much about the companies that would need my skills. Don't know any German yet.

P.S. Being used to the "safety" of the academia I'll need a lot of courage to move to startup that may cease to exist in a couple of years.
(This post was last modified: 09-17-2017 01:28 PM by duedue.)
09-17-2017 01:19 PM
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RE: Finding a job overseas to live as an expat?
Teach English in China
09-21-2017 06:25 AM
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My brother has teaching chops. International schools pay v well but they want you to have elite university pedigree. Talking $50-70k in countries where cost of living is around 30-40% of Western cities + free accommodation + free travel + stacked holidays + free private school education ($30k pa) for any kids you have. Added to that you can make money on the side tutoring rich kids, running holiday courses and publishing textbooks.

High quality of living, low stress, high status in Asia too working in prestigious international schools
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2017 08:21 AM by Que enspastic.)
09-23-2017 08:20 AM
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