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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-08-2011 02:42 PM)beebopaloo Wrote:  Okay, you got me...
Of course there are differences.
But they aren't that fucking big. Thats what I am trying to get across.

They are that fucking big. Even if you do not consider the language issues. Generally if you try the American typical "cocky/funny frat boy" bar game in Eastern Europe or in Russia, she won't really understand what you're doing, and you'll be labeled a retard. Gaming in Asia is different from US. Gaming in Colombia, as per Mixx reports and Roosh book, is also different from US. And you cannot game US chicks the same way you game Russian chicks.

Now if you add the language issues here, things get significantly more complicated. If most of your success comes from being cocky/funny/witty, just going to a non-English speaking country you lose a major point. Even if people there understand English, they rarely understand the slang, and may have problems with understanding what you have said. To give you an idea, I have been studying English in Russia, and have been living in US for close to six years, talking to colleagues, customers and service people every day. And not only I still sometime struggle with an unknown word, but my impression so far is that "witty talk" is something I'll never be able to do.

Quote:More than 50% of Danish TV is produced in the states. If there is a market for that I guess we can conclude that the value system is more or less the same.

You seem to believe that if people watch American movies, then they must share American values. You know one of the first questions I'm asked when I'm back? Whether the people in States really behave the same retarded way they do in movies. You'll also find out that vast majority of the movies imported to Europe is either sci-fi or kill-them-all, or music videos which pretty much have nothing to do with culture.

Quote:I am not saying that it's not easier or harder anywhere in the world. There are small differences everywhere. However if you're a cool dude, you will do well most places.

Well, the definition of "cool dude" changes across those places. For example, in Russia this definition may require an ability to drink 0.5L of straight vodka. At the same time, smoking weed immediately puts you into the "drug user" category, which is low class.

Quote:Nobody likes to see fat old germans in Thailand or want to be those guys, though they definitely do better than they do back home.

This has nothing to do with game.
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-06-2011 07:35 PM)docsedated Wrote:  Roosh : How would you say Denmark would fare for a player who just want to get a fill of white girls even if they are average ?

Go to Iceland for two weekends.

(04-08-2011 08:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I always assumed Danish girls were hot having seen so many in my travels.

As did I.

Guys are saying, "It can't be that bad," which is what I say to myself before walking out the door every day, but it fucking is that bad. My mood level here is the same as Washington DC, which is low.

Though there is one thing I want to reiterate: ugly girls treat me like a piece of meat. I'm approached often and get the most eye contact I've ever gotten in my life. But these are all 5's and below, and they aren't charming or feminine 5's. If I find an approachable 6 in a bar, I'm on it hard, because there will only be a handful of 7's (almost always with guys or large groups), and nothing above that. So if a guy doesn't mind chubby chasing Denmark could be a fuckfest, but honestly coming to expensive Denmark to fuck chubby masculine girls is silly.

I've lost hope of getting a 7 who is just a little sexy and a little feminine and has a little bit of charm. I don't want to be like those spinsters with a laundry list of desired qualities so I'll take a friendly 6 with hair that isn't shaved on the side like many girls here have and then ride her out until I leave. Even that may be asking too much.

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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
I went to Denmark for the weekend some years ago.

I dıd not see a woman above a 5 or a 6 the whole tıme I was there.

I told myself ıt cant be that bad and that a weekend ın Copenhagen cant really be a representative sample.

Apparently ıs ıs.
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(04-09-2011 06:43 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(04-08-2011 08:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I always assumed Danish girls were hot having seen so many in my travels.

As did I.

Guys are saying, "It can't be that bad," which is what I say to myself before walking out the door every day, but it fucking is that bad. My mood level here is the same as Washington DC, which is low.

Though there is one thing I want to reiterate: ugly girls treat me like a piece of meat. I'm approached often and get the most eye contact I've ever gotten in my life. But these are all 5's and below, and they aren't charming or feminine 5's. If I find an approachable 6 in a bar, I'm on it hard, because there will only be a handful of 7's (almost always with guys or large groups), and nothing above that. So if a guy doesn't mind chubby chasing Denmark could be a fuckfest, but honestly coming to expensive Denmark to fuck chubby masculine girls is silly.

I've lost hope of getting a 7 who is just a little sexy and a little feminine and has a little bit of charm. I don't want to be like those spinsters with a laundry list of desired qualities so I'll take a friendly 6 with hair that isn't shaved on the side like many girls here have and then ride her out until I leave. Even that may be asking too much.

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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
½ OT, but as far as Stockholm, here's a page with photos from various clubs with just ordinary people in them (=> no celebs).

club pics

i don't know, but in these pics there are many girls that i find attractive. but i agree that the mentality can be a turn-off, even if the girl is hot.
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-09-2011 06:43 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(04-06-2011 07:35 PM)docsedated Wrote:  Roosh : How would you say Denmark would fare for a player who just want to get a fill of white girls even if they are average ?

Go to Iceland for two weekends.

(04-08-2011 08:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I always assumed Danish girls were hot having seen so many in my travels.

As did I.

Guys are saying, "It can't be that bad," which is what I say to myself before walking out the door every day, but it fucking is that bad. My mood level here is the same as Washington DC, which is low.

Though there is one thing I want to reiterate: ugly girls treat me like a piece of meat. I'm approached often and get the most eye contact I've ever gotten in my life. But these are all 5's and below, and they aren't charming or feminine 5's. If I find an approachable 6 in a bar, I'm on it hard, because there will only be a handful of 7's (almost always with guys or large groups), and nothing above that. So if a guy doesn't mind chubby chasing Denmark could be a fuckfest, but honestly coming to expensive Denmark to fuck chubby masculine girls is silly.

I've lost hope of getting a 7 who is just a little sexy and a little feminine and has a little bit of charm. I don't want to be like those spinsters with a laundry list of desired qualities so I'll take a friendly 6 with hair that isn't shaved on the side like many girls here have and then ride her out until I leave. Even that may be asking too much.

What about one weekend in Iceland, can one land a 7?

Have you tried another city in Denmark?

Go to Stockholm, to me it is my yard stick for nice women. I don't care what anyone says, but bare in my mind it is a little trendy - so you will have to "rock" some style. The women are feminine as well, unlike Denmark it seems.


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Quote:What about one weekend in Iceland, can one land a 7?

Have you tried another city in Denmark?

One weekend is not enough. Two weekends minimum (10 days) with upcoming Bang Iceland and you should succeed.

Haven't tried another city. I hear Jutland has friendly girls, but honestly I'm not too motivated to incur greater expense to discover the possible gems of Denmark.

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(04-09-2011 02:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
Quote:What about one weekend in Iceland, can one land a 7?

Have you tried another city in Denmark?

One weekend is not enough. Two weekends minimum (10 days) with upcoming Bang Iceland and you should succeed.

Haven't tried another city. I hear Jutland has friendly girls, but honestly I'm not too motivated to incur greater expense to discover the possible gems of Denmark.

Any idea where the next destination is, Roosh? Maybe we can help you narrow it down.

You can give us something to look forward to after all the sobering reports.
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(04-08-2011 03:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Four more weeks. I made the mistake of getting into a 2 month lease before understanding how things really were. I had a friend here, I was riding high from good times in Iceland, and figured that Denmark would be similar. I was very wrong. Lesson learned... don't commit until doing the proper research. Never assume!

Quite true. I committed to 4 months in Medellin (apartment and spanish classes) only to discover that I don't like Medellin. Nothing about the women, it's the city itself that I don't like. I've been grinding it out, counting down the days till I leave.
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-09-2011 06:43 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(04-06-2011 07:35 PM)docsedated Wrote:  Roosh : How would you say Denmark would fare for a player who just want to get a fill of white girls even if they are average ?

Go to Iceland for two weekends.

(04-08-2011 08:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I always assumed Danish girls were hot having seen so many in my travels.

As did I.

Guys are saying, "It can't be that bad," which is what I say to myself before walking out the door every day, but it fucking is that bad. My mood level here is the same as Washington DC, which is low.

Though there is one thing I want to reiterate: ugly girls treat me like a piece of meat. I'm approached often and get the most eye contact I've ever gotten in my life. But these are all 5's and below, and they aren't charming or feminine 5's. If I find an approachable 6 in a bar, I'm on it hard, because there will only be a handful of 7's (almost always with guys or large groups), and nothing above that. So if a guy doesn't mind chubby chasing Denmark could be a fuckfest, but honestly coming to expensive Denmark to fuck chubby masculine girls is silly.

I've lost hope of getting a 7 who is just a little sexy and a little feminine and has a little bit of charm. I don't want to be like those spinsters with a laundry list of desired qualities so I'll take a friendly 6 with hair that isn't shaved on the side like many girls here have and then ride her out until I leave. Even that may be asking too much.

Rooshv,

How would you rate the danish girls on your "Three components of female beauty(genetic,feminine,sexuality) scale"?

Just for example,compared to the South american ones.
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(04-09-2011 06:43 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Though there is one thing I want to reiterate: ugly girls treat me like a piece of meat. I'm approached often and get the most eye contact I've ever gotten in my life. But these are all 5's and below, and they aren't charming or feminine 5's. If I find an approachable 6 in a bar, I'm on it hard, because there will only be a handful of 7's (almost always with guys or large groups), and nothing above that. So if a guy doesn't mind chubby chasing Denmark could be a fuckfest, but honestly coming to expensive Denmark to fuck chubby masculine girls is silly.

I need to copy that, as it describes exactly how I feel here in US.
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Quote:How would you rate the danish girls on your "Three components of female beauty(genetic,feminine,sexuality) scale

Rock bottom on everything.

(04-09-2011 04:09 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  Any idea where the next destination is, Roosh? Maybe we can help you narrow it down.

You can give us something to look forward to after all the sobering reports.

I've crossed out Sweden. I've met a handful of Swedish girls in Copenhagen and while they are cuter (sometimes considerably so), they are no mroe feminine/charming/sexy than Danish girls. My sample size is small but as expensive as Sweden is, I can't rationalize a trip there right now.

I've settled on Poland. I want to pick a city that is large, is representative of the "average" Polish girl, and won't have a ton of tourists in May or June. I've narrowed it down Wroclaw and Katowice, though I'm leaning towards Wroclaw since it's bigger and will be easier to find long-term lodging if I want to stay a bit. Any opinions on this plan is welcome!

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(04-10-2011 08:11 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
Quote:How would you rate the danish girls on your "Three components of female beauty(genetic,feminine,sexuality) scale

Rock bottom on everything.

(04-09-2011 04:09 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  Any idea where the next destination is, Roosh? Maybe we can help you narrow it down.

You can give us something to look forward to after all the sobering reports.

I've crossed out Sweden. I've met a handful of Swedish girls in Copenhagen and while they are cuter (sometimes considerably so), they are no mroe feminine/charming/sexy than Danish girls. My sample size is small but as expensive as Sweden is, I can't rationalize a trip there right now.

I've settled on Poland. I want to pick a city that is large, is representative of the "average" Polish girl, and won't have a ton of tourists in May or June. I've narrowed it down Wroclaw and Katowice, though I'm leaning towards Wroclaw since it's bigger and will be easier to find long-term lodging if I want to stay a bit. Any opinions on this plan is welcome!

I would add Poznan to your list as a possible destination.It is the nearest place to denmark,if you go by train,bus or car.Also there are less tourists as in other places,mostly german ones,who are party fellas but nothing like UK boys in case of manners.Absolutely no hassle.

And speaking of the women:
The last thing you will complain about is feminity.

At least this is what i have experienced there.
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
Roosh,

Just because you've signed a two month lease doesn't mean you have to stay there two months.

Whether you pre-paid or feel morally obligated to pay out the remainder, don't fall into the fallacy of sunken costs. You've already paid or have decided to pay; that should have no effect on your decision to leave early. You can start enjoying Poland sooner, and financially you will not worse off (since you have already paid or will pay your full lease).

The other obvious alternative is to simply break your lease and move out early without paying the remainder. What are the penalties for breaking the lease? Could they actually come after you for unpaid rent?
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-10-2011 08:11 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
Quote:How would you rate the danish girls on your "Three components of female beauty(genetic,feminine,sexuality) scale

Rock bottom on everything.

(04-09-2011 04:09 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  Any idea where the next destination is, Roosh? Maybe we can help you narrow it down.

You can give us something to look forward to after all the sobering reports.

I've crossed out Sweden. I've met a handful of Swedish girls in Copenhagen and while they are cuter (sometimes considerably so), they are no mroe feminine/charming/sexy than Danish girls. My sample size is small but as expensive as Sweden is, I can't rationalize a trip there right now.

I've settled on Poland. I want to pick a city that is large, is representative of the "average" Polish girl, and won't have a ton of tourists in May or June. I've narrowed it down Wroclaw and Katowice, though I'm leaning towards Wroclaw since it's bigger and will be easier to find long-term lodging if I want to stay a bit. Any opinions on this plan is welcome!

IMO, Poland is a good choice and you will like the quality of girls there. I would definitely hit up a second tier city like Wroclaw, Poznan, Lodz or Katowice and avoid the touristy places like Krakow. What about Germany? Are you interested in a place like Berlin or do you wanna skip it?

And about Denmark: Based on your reports, it really sounds abysmal. Would you say it´s the worst country in terms of women you´ve ever been , even worse than places like Bolivia or Ecuador?
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Poland is a great choice. Hot girls, good attitudes, fairly inexpensive. A detailed summary would be very beneficial.

I'm also glad your not going to Krakow, Roosh. Everyone is flocking there, and it's going to get played out rule soon. If it hasn't already.
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All I know about Polish women is what the internet has taught me. They have big tits.

I approve of this choice.

Also Im curious if the white skin, black hair, and blue eyes features are as common over there as Ive been lead to believe.

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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
Have you thought about Russia? The good old days of the 90s have come and gone in Moscow and St. Petersburg but there are other places like Sochi (site of the next Olympics) and Kazan which probably be cheaper and have better women. Though the language barrier could be a problem and getting a visa for Russia is a bitch.
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(04-07-2011 12:28 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  
(04-07-2011 11:18 AM)houston Wrote:  Have u been there? How bad is it?

I don't want to go off topic, but I've been there 3 times and spend at least a month each time. There are some good things about Russia, but in the end I don't recommend the place. Russian people are about as racist as they come. The only people who really argue otherwise, are Russians. Russians are ignorant in behaviour, talk, and disposition. Worst of all, they are oblivious to it.

To be fair there are many good things about Russia (beautiful women mostly), but I never found it fun over there. There was always constant BS to deal with.

Let's get back on topic though...

I am actually from St Petersburg... I was born there and moved to melbourne when i was 8

I couldnt agree with you more. A very stubborn backwards nation.... At the moment i am in Vietnam, and have been lucky to meet many very cool modern russian couples... But usually, they are a bunch of assholes

Cant wait to go back though Smile i think to enjoy russia you have to 1. Talk russian and 2. be Russian, which is not very easy to do for everyone
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
Good choice with Poland. I'm looking to go to Poland and Ukraine for EURO 2012 (international soccer tournament/huge European party) next summer.

I'm still doing my homework and deciding on which country to stay in during the tourney, so I'll def. be in line to buy Bang Poland if you write it. Best of luck and hopefully you can escape Denmark before your lease.
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
I will also be in Poland in the next few months for the first time. Looking forward to it.

Do we have a decent data sheets on Poland on here? Anyone care to start one?
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
I will be in Wroclaw and Krakow between April 20 and May 1 this year. Will pump out a comprehensive data sheet when I return.

I have already begun pipelining for the trip and am using CS and Gadu Gadu for the same. CS results are good, gadu is poor.

Most of the chicks from their initial replies seem to be a bit on the conservative side.

Austrian has also written a very good data sheet on Krakow. I have taken most of his tips while planning my trip.

Search for Krakow trip report.


(04-11-2011 04:14 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  I will also be in Poland in the next few months for the first time. Looking forward to it.

Do we have a decent data sheets on Poland on here? Anyone care to start one?
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(04-10-2011 08:11 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I've settled on Poland. I want to pick a city that is large, is representative of the "average" Polish girl, and won't have a ton of tourists in May or June. I've narrowed it down Wroclaw and Katowice, though I'm leaning towards Wroclaw since it's bigger and will be easier to find long-term lodging if I want to stay a bit. Any opinions on this plan is welcome!

I'm in Poland now. Krakow is tourist infested. Katowice is a industrial town. Warsaw is boring and ugly if you don't know where to go. Tho I have a friend there so PM me if you want some local info from him. I believe Poznan is your best bet because its the student town.
But overall if you want femininity, just go straight to Ukraine, srsly.
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Thanks for the tips.

Time to re-post this info in a new Poland thread should anyone care to start one?
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RE: Am I wasting my time in Scandinavia?
(04-10-2011 08:11 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I've settled on Poland.

I think you made the right choice... I think of Poland as the gateway into Eastern Europe.... One thing I know about Poland is that a lot of the Polish men have left Poland to look for jobs in Western Europe and even as far as the United States...

There's a fairly large Polish community here in New York metro area, and I've gone to a few polish nights. The few polish girls that were there were very attractive, but these polish nights have always been huge kielbasa festivals... so the ratios will be in your favor.

I think one of the reasons why Poland may have lost a lot more Polish men to immigration is because it's so close to Western Europe, it's part of the EU so there's less barriers to migration than other countries that aren't a part of the EU.

Also, a Latino friend of mine is married to a Polish girl, he recently went over there with his wife, and he said the night clubs were full of single attractive women...

If I was going to go to EE, Poland would be one of my stops...
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