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amity - the spoiler alert was for your warning about hipster-speak? Ha. I was annoyed by the sister's speaking style at the start of the movie too, thankfully it was short-lived and the character was nicely developed.

Also speaking of well-developed, the rack of that one character that we saw briefly caused me to question my atheism.

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SPOILER - ALERT ------- don't read further if you haven't seen it. Albeit - I won't spoil anything substantial.


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Despite the refreshing way of for once showing a female psychopath in action there were still a couple of shitty female solipsistic observations that really made me puke:

- first of all - that men like the "cool" girl - they have been brainwashed maybe, but we know here that this is all bullshit - if you have a girl that is into beer, football, sports and boys-night-outs then you are basically married to a guy. We know that we don't even need same interests in order to be happy in a relationship. Supportive - yes, identical - fuck no.

- then there is the realization that men LOOOOOVE being together with bitches and Dark Triad woman - NO - YOU FUCKING DELUDED FEMINAZIS! That shit only works one way. Men like sweet happy reliable girls - it is the women who are into Dark Triad. No guy except maybe for a 0,001% extreme minority goes around thinking: "I fell in love with that serial killer who killed 18 guys in a gruesome way. I hope she is still single when she comes out so I can marry her!"
While no guy thinks like that, the reality is that a huge part of the female population is into serial killers and a wide assortment of Dark Triad men - of course with varying degrees - for some women it is enough that he is somewhat of an asshole, while others want the full American Psycho experience complete with duct-tape.

Even in a seemingly partly Red Pill movie they twist the shit around. But yeah - the movie had the full gamut of Alphas, Betas, One-itis, Female Violence & Manipulation, Hypergamy, young mistresses, women approaching the wall etc. It certainly seems as if the author has been reading Manosphere sites to get fully inspired. In the end it got turned around a bit, but the success of the movie clearly shows that the people appreciate a good story which is always based in truth and thus Red Pill. All that propaganda feminist crap is not even believable to women, because our inner lie detector knows that the politically correct garbage is just bullshit.
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RE: Gone Girl
Saw it, liked it, concur with most of the previous comments. Reinforces the "crazy arched eyebrows are a red flag" archetype.

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SPOILER ALERT**********************************






I largely enjoyed the plot and character development, and the husband character acted mostly credibly, with the possible exception of how cool he was under fire during the last interview, right after his girlfriend's news conference. Also blatantly ignoring his lawyer's advice seemed weak. If he was such a badass mofo, he wouldn't have tolerated the psycho's bullshit earlier in the marriage. Sign legal docs distractedly because you're drinking a beer and watching the big game? Please.

Also: Fire does not destroy blood evidence? Fertility clinic impregnates woman without husband's consent? Neil Patrick Harris's character cannot pull a replacement female in 20 years? Husband stays in the house for weeks with known psychopath because he thinks he knocked her up? Make her pee on the test stick in front of you, dumbass! Also, note for single guys: if you ever get married, look at her parents for some clue as to what she might be like when the honeymoon is over. Nutty McNutjobs = No Go.

All that said, I did enjoy the film a lot and wanted to yell at the screen many times, so it was very engaging. I'm glad Hollywood made this, and the fact that it is doing well means other films exploring the topic may get greenlighted.
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+1 for this movie

The 2.5 hrs appears audacious at first - but once it starts rolling the film is engaging

No nice, neat solution at the end - kinda dug that too

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I saw this movie yesterday and as mentioned in a previous post, I read the book earlier this year.

Spoilers ahead!

-I did not picture Ben Affleck in this role at all and was surprised when I heard it announced. But I really think Ben Affleck played his character well. In the book, Nick Dunne (played by Affleck) is perceived by the police as a bit of a momma's boy and there is a scene early on where the female detective asks Affleck why he and his wife moved to Missouri and he replies "My mom got sick."There's another scene where he picks up his phone and says to his sister "Hey, Go." There is an innocence to his delivery that makes you question whether something is off with him, or if he's acting for the police, or if he's just a little over his head.

-Rosamund Pike's voice is haunting; she plays a terrific psychopath. One minor complaint was when she says the word "fucking/fuckin" it sounds a little stilted and awkward.

-There is a scene in the movie (also in the book) where Pike's character says to her husband Nick Dunne (Affleck), "The only time you even liked yourself is when you were with me. I made you better."

I'm wondering if anyone else connected with that line. I know I did. Whether it's to impress one particular woman or women in general, to some degree many men are pursuing their goals with women in mind. It calls to mind the quote "If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning."

From the book:

"I'd fallen in love with Amy because I was the ultimate Nick with her. Loving her made me superhuman, it made me feel alive. At her easiest, she was hard, because her brain was always working, working, working-- I had to exert myself just to keep pace with her. I'd spend an hour crafting a casual email to her. I became a student of arcana so I could keep her interested: the Lake poets, the code duello, the French Revolution."

"Amy made me believe I was exceptional, that I was up to her level of play...I couldn't handle the demands of greatness. I began craving ease and average-ness, and I hated myself for it, and ultimately, I realized, I punished her for it...I had pretended to be one kind of man and revealed myself to be quite another."

It sounds like Affleck's character was a paper alpha male working at peak performance to impress this woman, and over the course of the relationship backslid into beta mode.

One way to look at the plot is to see a woman who thought she married an alpha male and taught him a lesson to not reveal his beta traits to her again. Of course, she is a psychopath so she did this is an insane manner.
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Great movie,

There have been many articles online claiming its a misogynistic film. Virtually all feminist/leftist and other msm have picked this up. Mostly about how irresponsible ben affleck is about being a part of a film that is anti-woman etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikki-glou...42510.html


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...en-affleck



Can someone publish an article on ROK giving this movie 2 thumbs for talking about false rape accusations.
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(10-19-2014 01:16 PM)Lucky Wrote:  -There is a scene in the movie (also in the book) where Pike's character says to her husband Nick Dunne (Affleck), "The only time you even liked yourself is when you were with me. I made you better."

I'm wondering if anyone else connected with that line. I know I did. Whether it's to impress one particular woman or women in general, to some degree many men are pursuing their goals with women in mind. It calls to mind the quote "If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning."

From the book:

"I'd fallen in love with Amy because I was the ultimate Nick with her. Loving her made me superhuman, it made me feel alive. At her easiest, she was hard, because her brain was always working, working, working-- I had to exert myself just to keep pace with her. I'd spend an hour crafting a casual email to her. I became a student of arcana so I could keep her interested: the Lake poets, the code duello, the French Revolution."

"Amy made me believe I was exceptional, that I was up to her level of play...I couldn't handle the demands of greatness. I began craving ease and average-ness, and I hated myself for it, and ultimately, I realized, I punished her for it...I had pretended to be one kind of man and revealed myself to be quite another."


While some men may exert themselves greatly to be together with a woman, this motivational sequence is not valid for men. Men are not impressed with intellectual prowess of women and try to keep up with it! That is utter and complete bullshit. What happens more often with men around highly attractive women is that they work more to satisfy her hypergamy and they do not try to keep up with her "quick mind".

My Alpha friend has been with a girl who started reading at age 4 (learnt it herself) - IQ off the charts. While his IQ did not match hers, she was completely submissive around him. Plus such IQ hardly ever is used strongly in real life - unless you hold parties often with deep philosophical or technical discussions. Also despite her high IQ she had sometimes difficulty following certain musings, which gives credence to our perception that women even with high raw IQ are not using their minds as good as men in certain areas of creativity, mathematics, science etc.

Women are the ones who are impressed with a man's intellectual achievements and try to keep up. It seems to me that it was a real-life experience with the author.
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(10-20-2014 02:09 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Women are the ones who are impressed with a man's intellectual achievements and try to keep up. It seems to me that it was a real-life experience with the author.

You think women get turned on by a man's intellectual achievements? Please.

Generally people of both sexes prefer people with the same IQ as themselves or as close to it as possible, in both romantic and platonic relationships.
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(10-20-2014 05:24 AM)Deluge Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 02:09 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Women are the ones who are impressed with a man's intellectual achievements and try to keep up. It seems to me that it was a real-life experience with the author.

You think women get turned on by a man's intellectual achievements? Please.

Generally people of both sexes prefer people with the same IQ as themselves or as close to it as possible, in both romantic and platonic relationships.

Impressed - not turned on - just as women are impressed by a man's achievements in life. They are not turned on by it. I even met once a woman who had specifically targeted a highly intelligent guy for procreation - she said that it was the most important point for her. In a way that is a forward thinking Beta Bucks strategy that most women don't employ nowadays.

Let's put it this way - you will find more women who are impressed by a man's intelligence, money, social position than vice versa.

But you are right - if intelligence turned on women then physics students would have groupies.

Ah - well the book is solipsistic fiction written by a woman - but at least it showed Dark Triad women for once.
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(10-20-2014 12:20 AM)8ball Wrote:  Can someone publish an article on ROK giving this movie 2 thumbs for talking about false rape accusations.

Yes! I totally forgot about the false rape scene. That surprised the hell out of me and I wondered if they were going to cut that scene from the movie because of feminist influence. The book is a no-holds-barred look at a female psychopath and I believed they would soften her character to make her more sympathetic. In actuality, the film portrays a softened version of Affleck's character.

In any case, a ROK article about the false rape discussion from the film/movie would be good.

Here is the conversation from the book. MAJOR SPOILERS:

Quote:“Tell me,” I said. “About the assault charge. The rape.”

“Like I said, man, I’ve seen the coverage, the media is shitting all over you. I mean, you’re the guy. So I should leave well enough alone —I don’t need that girl back in my life. Even, like, tangentially. But shit. I wish someone had done me the favor.”

“So do me the favor,” I said.

“First of all, she dropped the charges— you know that, right?”

“I know. Did you do it?”

“Fuck you. Of course I didn’t do it. Did you do it?”

“No.”

“Well.” Tommy called again for his Scotch.

“Let me ask: Your marriage was good? Amy was happy?”

I stayed silent.

“You don’t have to answer, but I’m going to guess no. Amy was not happy. For whatever reason. I’m not even going to ask. I can guess, but I’m not going to ask. But I know you must know this: Amy likes to play God when she’s not happy. Old Testament God.”

“Meaning?”

“She doles out punishment,” Tommy said. “Hard.” He laughed into the phone. “I mean, you should see me,” he said. “I do not look like some alpha-male rapist. I look like a twerp. I am a twerp. My go-to karaoke song is ‘Sister Christian,’ for crying out loud. I weep during Godfather II. Every time.”

He coughed after a swallow. Seemed like a moment to loosen him up.
“Fredo?” I asked. “Fredo, man, yeah. Poor Fredo.”

“Stepped over.” Most men have sports as the lingua-franca of dudes. This was the film-geek equivalent to discussing some great play in a famous football game. We both knew the line, and the fact that we both knew it eliminated a good day’s worth of are we copacetic small talk. He took another drink.

“It was so fucking absurd.”
“Tell me.”

“You’re not taping this or anything, right? No one’s listening in? Because I don’t want that.”

“Just us. I’m on your side.”

“So I meet Amy at a party— this is, like, seven years ago now— and she’s so damn cool. Just hilarious and weird and … cool. We just clicked, you know, and I don’t click with a lot of girls , at least not girls who look like Amy. So I’m thinking … well, first I’m thinking I’m being punked. Where’s the catch, you know? But we start dating, and we date a few months, two, three months, and then I find out the catch: She’s not the girl I thought I was dating. She can quote funny things, but she doesn’t actually like funny things. She’d rather not laugh, anyway. In fact, she’d rather that I not laugh either, or be funny, which is awkward since it’s my job, but to her, it’s all a waste of time. I mean, I can’t even figure out why she started dating me in the first place, because it seems pretty clear that she doesn’t even like me. Does that make sense?”

I nodded, swallowed a gulp of Scotch. “Yeah. It does.”

“So, I start making excuses not to hang out so much. I don’t call it off, because I’m an idiot, and she’s gorgeous. I’m hoping it might turn around. But you know, I’m making excuses fairly regularly: I’m stuck at work, I’m on deadline, I have a friend in town, my monkey is sick, whatever. And I start seeing this other girl, kinda sorta seeing her, very casual, no big deal. Or so I think. But Amy finds out— how, I still don’t know, for all I know, she was staking out my apartment. But … shit …”

“Take a drink.” We both took a swallow.

“Amy comes over to my place one night— I’d been seeing this other girl like a month—and Amy comes over, and she’s all back like she used to be. She’s got some bootleg DVD of a comic I like, an underground performance in Durham, and she’s got a sack of burgers, and we watch the DVD, and she’s got her leg flopped over mine, and then she’s nestling into me, and … sorry. She’s your wife. My main point is: The girl knew how to work me . And we end up …”

“You had sex.”

“Consensual sex , yes. And she leaves and everything is fine . Kiss goodbye at the door, the whole shebang.”

“Then what?”

“The next thing I know, two cops are at my door, and they’ve done a rape kit on Amy, and she has ‘wounds consistent with forcible rape.’ And she has ligature marks on her wrists, and when they search my apartment, there on the headboard of my bed are two ties—like, neckties— tucked down near the mattress, and the ties are, quote, ‘consistent with the ligature marks.’ ”

“Had you tied her up?”

“No, the sex wasn’t even that … that, you know ? I was totally caught off guard. She must have tied them there when I got up to take a piss or whatever. I mean, I was in some serious shit. It was looking very bad. And then suddenly she dropped the charges. Couple of weeks later, I got a note, anonymous, typed, says: Maybe next time you’ll think twice.”

“And you never heard from her again?”

“Never heard from her again.”

“And you didn’t try to press charges against her or anything?”

“Uh, no . Fuck no. I was just glad she went away. Then last week, I’m eating my Thai food, sitting in my bed , watching the news report. On Amy. On you. Perfect wife , anniversary, no body, real shitstorm. I swear, I broke out in a sweat. I thought: That’s Amy, she’s graduated to murder. Holy shit. I’m serious, man, I bet whatever she’s got cooked up for you, it’s drum-fucking-tight. You should be fucking scared.”


Flynn, Gillian (2012-06-05). Gone Girl: A Novel (p. 278). Crown Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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I rarely watch television and hadn't heard of this. I do not particularly like Ben Affleck but will look cor this.
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(10-14-2014 01:53 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  SPOILER - ALERT ------- don't read further if you haven't seen it. Albeit - I won't spoil anything substantial.

Men like sweet happy reliable girls - it is the women who are into Dark Triad. No guy except maybe for a 0,001% extreme minority goes around thinking: "I fell in love with that serial killer who killed 18 guys in a gruesome way. I hope she is still single when she comes out so I can marry her!"
While no guy thinks like that, the reality is that a huge part of the female population is into serial killers and a wide assortment of Dark Triad men - of course with varying degrees - for some women it is enough that he is somewhat of an asshole, while others want the full American Psycho experience complete with duct-tape.

**********SPOILERS ABOUND HERE TOO*****************

Perhaps its handled differently in the book, but from the movie, Nick didn't look at all comfortable with being resigned to his fate as accomplice to her big lie. He seemed to resent that he was drawn into continuing this. He was not at all more attracted to her for being a murderer, hence why he refused to share a bed with her.

In a way, as much as the movie played a no-holds-barred red pill truth about the dark side of women, it also showed men's achilles' heel. Nick, in his final conversation with his sister, essentially says that he's agreed to complicity in her grand lie because he felt the tug of honor to rear his child on the way, even if he was scammed into that child through her deceit. Honor is a highly masculine trait (albeit one that's likely evolved from nurture rather than nature).

The most fascinating red-pill realities were distilled perfectly in the arch of Amy's character, although with some reservations. While Amy, as naturally as any human, would feel highly violated having been cheated on, it would be unlikely to inspire quite the vindictiveness that spawned the film's central inciting incident. Rather, she would shed her view of him as a beta schlub and compete back to re-earn his affection.

But the arch her story takes after she flees is by all accounts perfect. If one can disregard his affair, he fleeing is clearly hypergamy in action. And it works better without his infidelity (although would then fail to set up the dominos that create the compelling film via murder framing). Her hypergamy fuels her until she's forced by circumstance to seek refuge in the 20-year Beta orbiter. Her seething contempt for his loathsome and pathetic qualities ("I won't force myself upon you"; his use of money as his primary tool) is so palpable that she actually finds murdering him an acceptable course of action. They try giving her the proverbial "out" by hinting that the surveillance there is so tedious that her hand is forced and to try and paint him with the leverage, but it seems clear to me that if she left he'd not turn her in for his investment/pot-commitment, nor have any recourse to turn her in (lest he be an accomplice to her fraud). She was so sickened by him that she murders this man in cold blood only to return to the man she tried framing for her murder.

So many layers. Beautifully done. Affleck killed it (and I rather dislike him in general, but game recognize game). And while the actress that played Amy didn't own the screen the way he did, her story was easily the more compelling arch, especially from a red pill perspective.
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(10-11-2014 05:35 PM)monster Wrote:  David Fincher's one of the few reliable directors out there who can be trusted to make a good movie.

It's cool that Trent Reznor scored this.

Good review! Definitely on my list to check out next!

I FOUND IT A REAL TRAINWRECK. (My reactio...in one minute!)

First of all, the backstory in the first third of the film, explaining who the wife was, never congealed into a believable love interest. Her characterization was too tissue thin.

Then we have the lawyer defending our protagonist saying he as his crack team" of investigators out - one ex-CIA, another one ex-FBI. OK?

And yet they never got around to doing the most entirely obvious thing in the world with a missing person-wife? Her ex-BF - the one she's still most recently in mail contact with? They don't locate and track him down? Unbelievably, they don't, despite the weeks that the "client" is in limbo on a murder charge.

Finally, the couple is re-united, and the lawyer abandon's his client to a psycho-killer - RIGHT, and nobody even utters words like "You need to see a psychiatrist....?" Or "A psychologist?" Or even "involuntary commitment?

because, well, nobodies ever heard of reaching out to a shrink for, oh, addictions, depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation these days? Because this was so long ago in the past? No, the story is contemporary.

So, given all this, you think you can deal with living with a murderous sociopath? All that bar-management makes you qualified to deal with this? HOW EXACTLY?

So, therefore I was laughing through the film in utter disbelief! Rex Reed nailed it - nothing makes sense here!

Dumb, dumb, dumb - and I'm appalled at people not asking the most obvious plot-and-character questions. Do we all REALLY wanna be suckers?

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TRAIN WRECK ISSUE-there's yet another consideration from viewing this film to add: the "corpus delecti" problem, our wench needs to provide a body to successfully frame her husband.

In the first person voice-over and imagery, she sees herself bound and sinking to a watery grave, presumably lost. Thereby completing her murder-wrap ruse successfully!

In the second-third sequence, she makes "friends" with a suitably-sized younger brunette. (Teamed with her BF, she ultimately robs our villain of her money - forcing her to turn to the Neil Patrick Harris character, the ex-BF.)

The tense situation has us wondering how the "frame-up" can be pulled-off in a day and age of DNA-fingerprinting. Because it really can't.

What's strange is that for such a smart pre-murderous psychopath, so methodical in her plotting, she hasn't yet revealed her staging of the DNA evidence she needs to fulfill her evil schemes!

The obvious sacrifice for a still-beautiful woman to make does not take place: cutting off her toe to plant as evidence implicating the husband to seal the prior blood evidence at home.

Presumably, the theft of her money sets up the turn away from self-mutilation she needed to complete her 'get-away' goal of a successful frame of the husband. It is a random event that's nicely conveyed as a schemer out schemed by another female (abetted by the overpowering, big and intimidating BF).

At way rate, it added suspense to this surprise turn of events, increasing the voyeuristic "train-wreck" fascination at watching events unfold for me.

The Cohen brothers would have strung this out better, methinks. This plot twist leaves an obvious "evil, evil!" plot-ending undeveloped - a mistake the great suspense directors like Hitchcock - or French masters from Truffaut to Chabrol and Henri-Georges Clouzot - would not have missed.

Truffaut and Clouzot, in particular, loved the evil murdering woman as subject and protagonists in their films. For the former, it took a black comic turn in the revenge-driven "The Bride Wore Black," as well as the happy-go-lucky femme-fatale psycho-killer cum farce in "Such a Gorgeous Kid Like Me," which sees the seduced, nebbish criminologist-interviewer ultimately framed for murder as the young woman goes free!

Since we're close to Holloween, if any reader has a chance to see "Les Diaboliques" - do so. Or any of the (frankly inferior) American remakes from 1996 "Diabolique," or the TV-movie "House of Secrets" (1993) and even earlier "Reflections of Murder" (1974) - all useful tasters to get acquainted with a master's masterpiece of psychologically driven murder cum horror film.

Perhaps Fincher, together with the novelist, can serve the worthy goal of opening up Hollywood to better reconsiderations of the female psycho-killer theme on film? A revival long-overdue.

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(10-14-2014 05:05 AM)RawGod Wrote:  I used to be a libertarian, but now I would rather a fascist state which would make this shit illegal and smash these corporations in favor of family promotion.


RawGod, I was cracking up when I read this. I was just contemplating this last night. Just the other day when this fckh8 group put out of video of little girls who are still losing their baby teeth swearing like truck drivers, has me ready to turn my back on Murray Rothbard and the libertarians. The idea of using sheer brute force to turn America around to what it once stood for is now beginning to make me smile.

Anyways, to stay on topic, I'm going to see Gone Girl tonight.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to read the book first then watch the movie when that comes out.
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Damn, couldn't wait to finish the book to watch the film.

It was great. I need to watch it again. My head is spinning still.

Hopefully the rest of the book will untie some of the knots in my mind right now.
10-28-2014 08:52 PM
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Saw the film. Lotta thoughts, but I notice a lot of the reviews on IMDB really hate the film - because it hits too close to home. Women can't decide how they feel about it - yes, finally a female sociopath, but does she have to cry rape, because no real women ever do that? Shouldn't men be mad they look like idiots like Nick? What about the plot holes?

That film was raw and amazing. Go see it. But don't go with a woman.

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(11-02-2014 01:06 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Saw the film. Lotta thoughts, but I notice a lot of the reviews on IMDB really hate the film - because it hits too close to home. Women can't decide how they feel about it - yes, finally a female sociopath, but does she have to cry rape, because no real women ever do that? Shouldn't men be mad they look like idiots like Nick? What about the plot holes?

That film was raw and amazing. Go see it. But don't go with a woman.

Cry rape and manipulate - that is soooo much not "modern womanese". I guess those deluded fat hamsters expected Dark Triad women to behave like male psychopaths via direct violence, kilcking ass, beating the shit out of her husband? We are completely equal, so a woman should be behaving similarly. The reality of course is that bitches behave like that when treading on the dark side.

Dark Triad and BPD women are known to weave their web of manipulation and deceit, because that is how they roll. Even serial killers among them let men do their bidding for them or do it via poison.

Another even more Red Pill movie is BLUE VALENTINE with Ryan Gosling - women leaving that movie look shell-shocked since it hits home even more.
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(11-02-2014 01:06 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Saw the film. Lotta thoughts, but I notice a lot of the reviews on IMDB really hate the film - because it hits too close to home. Women can't decide how they feel about it - yes, finally a female sociopath, but does she have to cry rape, because no real women ever do that? Shouldn't men be mad they look like idiots like Nick? What about the plot holes?

That film was raw and amazing. Go see it. But don't go with a woman.

I went with a woman. Actually she picked the movie at the cinema entrance as there wasn't really anything else I wanted to see that day. And we both loved it.

I had never heard about the movie or the book in advance - when it comes to cinema entertainment I'm usually more likely to pick mindless action or sci-fi - but after the slow first ~20 minutes wondering what the hell kind of boring crap I'd been dragged in to watch, I was definitely very impressed. Quite a chilling movie.
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(10-20-2014 12:20 AM)8ball Wrote:  Great movie,

There have been many articles online claiming its a misogynistic film. Virtually all feminist/leftist and other msm have picked this up. Mostly about how irresponsible ben affleck is about being a part of a film that is anti-woman etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikki-glou...42510.html


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...en-affleck



Can someone publish an article on ROK giving this movie 2 thumbs for talking about false rape accusations.
Surprise surprise. When i was leaving the cinema after watching this I overheard two girls saying how anti-woman the movie is.
11-08-2014 06:57 PM
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I just watched this movie today.

I am surprised that no one had talked about this, but did anyone notice that ****WARNING SPOILER**** the crazier and more psychotic it was revealed that Amy was, the shorter her hair got?
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(11-09-2014 12:01 AM)unhommefou Wrote:  did anyone notice that ****WARNING SPOILER**** the crazier and more psychotic it was revealed that Amy was, the shorter her hair got?

Not sure how common this is but a couple examples off the top of my head that makes me think it could be:

-Sharon Stone in Casino in the beginning has long blonde hair and looks great, after she turns into a nutcase she sports a short haircut.

-Carmela Soprano, right around the time she and Tony split up and increased her bitch attitude, started wearing a short hair cut. It grew out when she and Tony got back together.

-In the Olson Twins movie It Takes Two, the father of the twins plans to marry a golddigger. The woman early on has long blonde hair and after she goes full on psycho she chops her hair off. The actress is Jane Sibbett; she played Ross Gellar's wife on Friend's.
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Just watched it, and I can see why the movie generated its controversy. Amy Dunne was a memorable psycho bitch, but she has nothing on Linda Fiorentino's character in "The Last Seduction." Check that one out below:



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I watched this movie a few weeks ago.

I couldn't believe the ending... Even as a simple watcher I felt so powerless, the audience in the theater was also like what the fuck...
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