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RE: Gone Girl
I read the book some months ago. It was a fast-paced, intriguing thriller with some insights into the mind of a sociopath. Won't go into detail; anything further would spoil it. The book is known for the "cool girl" passage:
Quote:Men always say that as the defining compliment, don’t they? She’s a cool girl. Being the Cool Girl means I am a hot, brilliant, funny woman who adores football, poker, dirty jokes, and burping, who plays video games, drinks cheap beer, loves threesomes and anal sex, and jams hot dogs and hamburgers into her mouth like she’s hosting the world’s biggest culinary gang bang while somehow maintaining a size 2, because Cool Girls are above all hot. Hot and understanding. Cool Girls never get angry; they only smile in a chagrined, loving manner and let their men do whatever they want. Go ahead, shit on me, I don’t mind, I’m the Cool Girl.
Men actually think this girl exists. Maybe they’re fooled because so many women are willing to pretend to be this girl. For a long time Cool Girl offended me. I used to see men – friends, coworkers, strangers – giddy over these awful pretender women, and I’d want to sit these men down and calmly say: You are not dating a woman, you are dating a woman who has watched too many movies written by socially awkward men who’d like to believe that this kind of woman exists and might kiss them. I’d want to grab the poor guy by his lapels or messenger bag and say: The bitch doesn’t really love chili dogs that much – no one loves chili dogs that much! And the Cool Girls are even more pathetic: They’re not even pretending to be the woman they want to be, they’re pretending to be the woman a man wants them to be. Oh, and if you’re not a Cool Girl, I beg you not to believe that your man doesn’t want the Cool Girl. It may be a slightly different version – maybe he’s a vegetarian, so Cool Girl loves seitan and is great with dogs; or maybe he’s a hipster artist, so Cool Girl is a tattooed, bespectacled nerd who loves comics. There are variations to the window dressing, but believe me, he wants Cool Girl, who is basically the girl who likes every fucking thing he likes and doesn’t ever complain. (How do you know you’re not Cool Girl? Because he says things like: “I like strong women.” If he says that to you, he will at some point fuck someone else. Because “I like strong women” is code for “I hate strong women.”)
I read that the movie differs from the book; I'm excited to see how.
I'm meeting my regular girl next weekend to go see the movie.
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RE: Gone Girl
Not to derail the thread, but some of the stuff that Tarantino comes up with, I find genuinely disturbing.
In almost every one of his movies, there's at least one scene, sometimes more, that is just sickening.
Think about it, there's the ear scene in Reservoir Dogs, the gratuitous blowing the guy's head off in the car in Pulp Fiction (which many people thought was hilarious, not me), the carving the swastika sign into peoples' heads in Inglorious Basterds, the mandingo eye gouging in Django, truly sick shit, yet QT regularly works in at least one of said scenes into pretty much all of his movies.
I don't know if he's truly a twisted fuck or if he's living out his victim mentality on film or what the deal is, but whatever, it strikes me as the product of a truly fucked up, twisted mind.
(Maybe I'll start a separate thread on this,)
Ok gentlemen, as you were, back to the topic at hand, ie. 'Gone Girl' (I plan to see it this week, will report back).
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2014 05:16 AM by amity.)
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RE: Gone Girl
(10-13-2014 05:15 AM)amity Wrote: Not to derail the thread, but some of the stuff that Tarantino comes up with, I find genuinely disturbing.
In almost every one of his movies, there's at least one scene, sometimes more, that is just sickening.
Think about it, there's the ear scene in Reservoir Dogs, the gratuitous blowing the guy's head off in the car in Pulp Fiction (which many people thought was hilarious, not me), the carving the swastika sign into peoples' heads in Inglorious Basterds, the mandingo eye gouging in Django, truly sick shit, yet QT regularly works in at least one of said scenes into pretty much all of his movies.
I don't know if he's truly a twisted fuck or if he's living out his victim mentality on film or what the deal is, but whatever, it strikes me as the product of a truly fucked up, twisted mind.
(Maybe I'll start a separate thread on this,)
Ok gentlemen, as you were, back to the topic at hand, ie. 'Gone Girl' (I plan to see it this week, will report back).
Never enjoyed Tarantino.
Whenever I see the sheer amount of fandom Tarantino generates, it makes me think of our generation's consumerist nihilism.
Is our society so materially comfortable that we can parade around a bunch of sick images and revel in their absurdity and gratuity?
At least some of the other directors - including Affleck and Fincher - say something. Their form may be postmodern, but the substance is still there.
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RE: Gone Girl
Saw it today, and maybe my expectations were too high. It was a good movie which did bring a non-feminised perspective to relationships which could be considered somewhat subversive. However as cinema, it was too long and none of the plot twists were surprising.
It's worth going to the cinema to see, epoch-defining, no.
Two of the pre-movie advertisements absolutely disgusted me. One of them promoted chocolate biscuits and consisted of a female voice rejecting human company, while sensual images of melting chocolate filled the screen: "if you want a massage, I know a good Thai massage down the street" and "if you need face time, look in the mirror". Cut to the smug, red-lipsticked female face as she bites into her hydrogenated sugar vehicle, with the final word of the ad being "...Brian" to leave us in no doubt that the person she has been taunting and rejecting is male.
Fuck these corporations which are telling women that it's better to consume garbage food alone than be loving companions and partners. I used to be a libertarian, but now I would rather a fascist state which would make this shit illegal and smash these corporations in favor of family promotion.
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RE: Gone Girl
*******POTENTAIL SPOILERS - DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU'VE WATCHED THE FILM*******
@RawGod I largely agree.
I think it had the potential to be one of the best crime thrillers of all time.
Halfway through, I was mouthing to myself "this is genius filmmaking, outstanding....".
I was on the edge of my seat in anticipation.
But... for me, the second half didn't deliver on the incredible promise of the first half of the movie (aside from the faux hipster speak nonsense in the opening twenty minutes which I could've done without).
I've also seen a lot of fawning over Rosamund Pike and her character and how beautiful and amazing she was.
Poppycock for the most part.
She's quite attractive with the long hair, a solid 6, perhaps a 6.5 at a stretch, but certainly nothing remarkable.
With the short hair, she's just a standard mid 30s woman with a slim but somewhat mannish physique with little curves, not unattractive, but nothing special either.
(This post was last modified: 10-14-2014 06:06 AM by amity.)
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