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(11-15-2014 06:04 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  The good news for Owen Cook is that there was no stripper in that story. Like everything else he talks about, it was a lie.


Yeah I'm surprised anyone even believes that story...but I guess if Owen owned up to the truth on that he would lose whats left of his followers

(11-15-2014 07:30 PM)Saladin Wrote:  They've lost Alex and Brad, understandably as Brad was moving towards more self development type of stuff, while Alex has been distancing himself from RSD in the last few years.

Jeffy's extremely angry at Julien and the whole situation. I imagine he's not going to stick around too long.

I don't think Brad will go far ....the guy is as bland as an accountant
I can't think of one thing that appeals about his lifestyle accept he gets to travel (but its from ripping off naïve men)





As as for Jeffy being angry ...when it was all sunshine and rainbows he had nothing but praise for the guy ..now that he pretty much has no career its a different story

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“Julien was just a kid with nothing to lose, brainwashed and brutalized for two years by Tyler in the crucible of the LA club scene, then thrown to the wolves on an extended global tour. The end result?
A completely amoral, highly lethal weapon
obsessively dedicated to his all-consuming
purpose: getting YOU laid. In short, he's RSD's Darth Maul”
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(11-15-2014 09:22 PM)Saladin Wrote:  Jeffy on the whole situation-

[Image: 0af7961fc49989170a1405879e3e5e45.png]

You sure that's not a troll account?

This appears to be his facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/RsdJeffy

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^Not a troll account. The other one is his page, the screenshot is from his profile.

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So he thinks he's "completely amoral... obsessively dedicated to his all-consuming purpose"
Yup. Sounds about right. Great guy to have representing your company.
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(11-15-2014 11:20 PM)Saladin Wrote:  ^Not a troll account. The other one is his page, the screenshot is from his profile.

What profile? I looked around and I don't think Jeffy goes by Jeff Allen anywhere. He either goes by Jlaix, RSD Jeffy, or at the most Jeffy Allen.

I don't even care if he said that but I hate when people spread misinformation. It happens constantly on the net.

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Huh. So RSD hasn't made a response because Brad, Alex, and Jeff are all against Julien. Todd hasn't made a statement, but based on the fact he's interviewed a female PUA who tweeted #takedownjulienblanc I'd guess he isn't on board with Julien's nonsense. But Julien was Tyler's star quarterback, so he can't exactly throw him under the bus. Sad dynamic.

(11-15-2014 08:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  There's a lot to learn from this episode.

No kiddin.

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(11-16-2014 12:20 AM)the high Wrote:  What profile? I looked around and I don't think Jeffy goes by Jeff Allen anywhere. He either goes by Jlaix, RSD Jeffy, or at the most Jeffy Allen.

I don't even care if he said that but I hate when people spread misinformation. It happens constantly on the net.

It's 100 percent not a fake account.

(11-16-2014 12:24 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Huh. So RSD hasn't made a response because Brad, Alex, and Jeff are all against Julien. Todd hasn't made a statement, but based on the fact he's interviewed a female PUA who tweeted #takedownjulienblanc I'd guess he isn't on board with Julien's nonsense. But Julien was Tyler's star quarterback, so he can't exactly throw him under the bus. Sad dynamic.

(11-15-2014 08:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  There's a lot to learn from this episode.

No kiddin.

Julien is Tyler's protege, which is probably why Tyler hasn't terminated/denounced him yet. Bad move as we can all see. If they had distanced themselves from Julien and dealt with this properly RSD would have been fine. Instead they make bad decision after bad decision, losing the respect of everyone including their core fans.

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(11-16-2014 12:32 AM)Saladin Wrote:  It's 100 percent not a fake account.

I'll ask one more time and I'll drop it because now I think you're being disingenuous. If that is from Jeffy's profile where is the link? And what profile? His RSD profile? His facebook profile? His Linkedin profile? That screenshot looks like facebook, but his facebook name is RSD Jeffy. So when he comments it should say RSD Jeffy not Jeff Allen.

Now you could say he has two different facebooks but then where is that facebook page at?

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A little anecdote from just a second ago:

I visited Youtube and noticed a video in my feed of Frank Kern (internet marketing guy) interviewing Tony Robbins about money.

For some reason this made me think of Tyler (he was always a big Tony Robbins fan and was always into self-help type shit like that, perhaps even a connoisseur of it).

I wonder, if RSD really does collapse like some people are saying it will, how will Tyler "take" the whole thing?

Do you think he'll be able to walk it off and just continue as a self-help guru or will his name be that badly damaged that he'll have to do something else in internet marketing anonymously?

I do think that this drama he's going through is survivable (not for RSD as a whole, but for him personally), but something about the way Tyler reacts to media coverage makes me wonder if he can really handle this. I remember watching this video of him talking about The Game, and how he freaked out at the mainstream publicity it gave him. I mean this is something that most people would revel in, and his reaction was basically "oh shit I'm fucked." Ditto with how Jeffy reacted to the Jezebel piece. He got super butthurt about it, instead of reveling in the attention like Roosh would. This makes me feel like maybe Tyler (and RSD as a whole) is/are too thin skinned to really be a public figure. He doesn't seem able to stand "the spotlight" unless he controls the camera.
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I was wondering the same thing Andy. What Tyler and Jeffy both share is really shitty, abusive parents. Jeffy seems to have coped better, at least he can joke about his dad kidnapping his mom now. Since the Jezebel thing he also seems to have matured a little bit without losing his funny twist on life.

Tyler on the other hand seems to be full of self denial. Never mind self help, I don't see how he could hold any position where he is a public figure at this point. Nobody would take him seriously. Likely he will fall of the map for a while. The guy has some huge inner demons he needs to deal with. Perhaps he will get outside help and find some peace in his life.
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(11-16-2014 12:43 AM)the high Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 12:32 AM)Saladin Wrote:  It's 100 percent not a fake account.

I'll ask one more time and I'll drop it because now I think you're being disingenuous. If that is from Jeffy's profile where is the link? And what profile? His RSD profile? His facebook profile? His Linkedin profile? That screenshot looks like facebook, but his facebook name is RSD Jeffy. So when he comments it should say RSD Jeffy not Jeff Allen.

Now you could say he has two different facebooks but then where is that facebook page at?

I did a graph search for "Jeff Allan" and found it pretty easily, it looks his personal Facebook. Can't see much but I think it's legit, he's Facebook friends with some people from my city's pickup scene. Not sharing someone's personal Facebook account link on a public forum but if you'd like I can PM you proof.
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(11-15-2014 10:05 PM)hedonist Wrote:  RSD Jeffy:
“Julien was just a kid with nothing to lose, brainwashed and brutalized for two years by Tyler in the crucible of the LA club scene, then thrown to the wolves on an extended global tour. The end result?
A completely amoral, highly lethal weapon
obsessively dedicated to his all-consuming
purpose: getting YOU laid. In short, he's RSD's Darth Maul”

Julien may be RSD's Darth Maul, but Tyler is no Emperor. In addition to that - the Clone Army is working for the other side as well.

http://www.pimpingmygame.com/ - that quote seems to be true, since Julien uses it on his site.

Ah - what can go wrong if you let a 25 year old - high on pussy and probably some coke go wild and publish PR material reflecting on your entire company. That is tantamount to Goldman Sach giving a carte blanche to a newbie-trader: "Here buddy - unlimited margin, no supervision, just take some blow and trade. We will check up on you next month."
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(11-07-2014 09:30 AM)Roosh Wrote:  3 day ban for Letranger for having an emotional meltdown.

lol i have to be honest i actually laughed out loud reading this

those kind of topic really DO makes my blood boil

its just sad when somebody completely derail two of your post with a gif and a one liner sarcastic comment

OK I just want make 2 points:

- what happened to the "enemy of our enemy is our friend"?? big example: gamer gate? Theres a bit of discrepancy there.

- im not a rsd technical guy, i didnt even read the Game, but I do know that a freezeout is done when you pushed a girl for the bang but she didnt want any. I dont see the correlation you guys are doing here with the freezeout, its never something you use when a girl is attacking you....
Yeah it sounds cool but its completly out of context.
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Everybody has ripped Tyler in this thread but nobody has mentioned Papa.

He is co-owner of the company and so surely must take an equal share of the blame for this PR fiasco.

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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014...CMP=twt_gu

Talks of trying to ban Julien from entering the UK. If you are an Islamist hate-preacher, you may enter. If you are a convicted rapist from the other side of the world, you may enter. If you teach bad Game, you are a good PR piece to suck up to the current feminist meme.
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(11-16-2014 08:11 AM)el conquistador Wrote:  Everybody has ripped Tyler in this thread but nobody has mentioned Papa.

He is co-owner of the company and so surely must take an equal share of the blame for this PR fiasco.

The story on Nick Kho (papa) is quite humorous, but nothing evil like some of his other partners in crime.

His dad apparently was the president or board member of Devry University and quite wealthy. He "sponsored" RSD when they were founded and many speculate he still helps keep them afloat.

One of the longstanding jokes in the community is that due to the social awkwardness he developed as a kid raised by overprotective Asian parents, Papa never picked up a girl through cold approach. In fact, he had to rely on throwing lavish parties, and spending money like a drunk sailor, in order to get any female attention.

According to an 8chan post he also founded a company called lovelogica.com which teaches women how to thwart the attempts of pua's.

"Apparently the Korean man named Kho who owns and operates RSDnation is the treasurer of this other false company that claims to teach women how to "outsmart pick up artists". Kho has placed his wife as the CEO.

So, teach men to be betas and women how to avoid betas. Clever, Kho."

So in short since marriage papa has become a feminist. He is rarely seen at RSD events. And this is the last guy on earth you would see touching a girl inappropriately. I guess this would explain the lack of SJW coverage regarding his role in the company.

I wonder what other new tidbits will be revealed over the next few weeks ? The longer these asspies keep quiet, the more the media and others committed to the cause will keep digging up dirt. I cringe to think of what they may eventually unearth..
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lovelogica.com does not give me a website, but google gives me plenty of info.

http://amberkho.com/#/home is up, which is her personal site. But lovelogica seems to be down.


Does it work for you guys? Are there other sites like that?
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(11-16-2014 09:14 AM)micha Wrote:  lovelogica.com does not give me a website, but google gives me plenty of info.

http://amberkho.com/#/home is up, which is her personal site. But lovelogica seems to be down.


Does it work for you guys? Are there other sites like that?

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(11-15-2014 08:19 PM)ilovelatinas Wrote:  Kudos to Deluge for predicting Alex and Brad would be the first two instructors to defect. RSD fanboys now have solid evidence that the ship is sinking.

A post on 8chan shows a screenshot of Tyler posting on RSD nation boasting Juliens Japan video is just the tip of the iceberg (this is before Jenn Li came in to the picture) Then a post from Tyler a few days later (after the original was deleted) indicating he did not know about the video. Lots of other funny/incriminating stuff too. https://8chan.co/takedownjulienblanc/res/7.html#222

The snowball effect continues.. At some point they will have to issue an announcement.


WOW, that screencap where owen hired a prostitute and called her the "N" word? yeah, fuck this guy. How RSD fanboys can still fanboy over a dude who uses prostitutes is beyond me, that's like 100% anti-game right there. Just sad.

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(11-16-2014 09:14 AM)micha Wrote:  lovelogica.com does not give me a website, but google gives me plenty of info.

http://amberkho.com/#/home is up, which is her personal site. But lovelogica seems to be down.


Does it work for you guys? Are there other sites like that?

Papa Kho - Disneypreneur who had to appear to have some kind of a career instead of having just inherited the money.

His white-girl-higher-status "ambitious" gold-digging wife:

[Image: nick-kho-amber-holmes.jpeg]

http://www.pualingo.com/wp-content/uploa...olmes.jpeg

Quote:Amber Kho is an entrepreneur who is Founder of Lovelogica.com. She is also currently studying at Harvard Extension for her BA in Visual Arts and Digital Media. (Financed by husband).

Her business and entrepreneurship experiences over the past 15 years have paved the way for her many successful businesses including Xavii, The Blow Your Mind Seminar Series, Smart Money Club, and currently Lovelogica which aims to teaches thousands of women on how to create healthy relationships using science and research. (All businesses no longer existing. But what's a couple hundred grand in seed money from husband?)

Kho has been granted several awards and scholarships due to her academic and entrepreneurship achievements over the years. Kho has been featured in Total Prestige Magazine, Business Observer, In Utah This Week, Daily Mail, and has appeared on the Bravo Network. (Yes - she was featured on Daily Mail, but only for the fact that she married a wealthy guy. I guess Papa did not read on manosphere content when he decided to marry a 32yo while being 32 himself. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...a-Kho.html)

Residence: Cambridge, MA

Countries Traveled: 55 (Well - travel around the world and play a real entrepreneur is hard work)

Translation: All "businesses" mentioned no longer exist. Well connected, financed by husband (husband's daddy money) - have to make the appearance of being a strong independent career woman. It is not enough to be married to a wealthy guy, who has himself inherited his wealthy by the hard work his father put into it. No - they all have to be CEOs and make-believe entrepreneurs. I personally met quite a few of those and their wives.
The wives are usually worse, since sometimes they demand a high executive position and a friend who has a real business offers her a job way superior to her qualifications. The funny thing is that I even saw articles in the press praising such Disneypreneurs and their wives, while everyone in the company who knew them considered them morons at best.

It is safe to say that RSD is led by Owen Cook personally and Papa is just the seed-investor and receiver of Owen's occasional pimping. Not that anything is wrong with that, but it explains quite a few things. I like some of Owen's content which is unique even in the entire Game world (depiction of Chode vs. Lover simulation in clubs for example), but I personally would not hire him as CEO - for that position the Game-level is not as important as other abilities.

I don't think that other instructors have much say in the company - it is Owen's show with Papa being a silent investor, whose finances are not even impacted whether RSD survives, makes money or is shut down.
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Extramask had a podcast named The Barry Kirkey Radio Show. He was an instructor for RSD who ended up quitting and detailed all the mayhem that went on behind closed doors at RSD. You can download episodes on Archive.org, however there are at least 300 shows.

I remember one episode where he talked about Papa meeting Paris Hilton. Notice the obvious hover hand in the photo of nick with paris. http://www.ilbe.com/4311960620

In others he talks about Owns shitty, elitist attitude toward everyone, including other instructors, interns, and students.

Long story short, Nick is definitely not a racist douchebag like some of his RSD brethren but rather a socially awkward guy with an affinity for tall blonds who tossed his money around in order to build his self image. Sadly this attracted bottom feeders like Owen.
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From ROK commentator CLARK KENT:

Quote:Friday night I was talking to a female co-worker about feminism. She is an attractive girl that posts feminist crap on FB all the time and asked me why people gave her flack for being a vocal feminist.

I had a pretty decent back and forth discussion with her about it. Tried to open her up to a bunch of ideas for what guys really think about it.

Anyways, one thing she was ranting about is how she is glad that guy from Real Social Dynamics was ostracized and kicked out of Canada. She said that his kind of behaviour is unacceptable and men should not be approaching women in these inappropriate ways. She made it sound like he was a rapist.

I asked her how men should approach women then and she gave the usual "Oh you know, be a gentleman, act nice blah blah blah."

Later that night I saw the bouncer grab her by the neck and playfully yank her downstairs, all the while saying "You have the right to remain sexy, anything you say and cock can and will be used against you." She was laughing and smiling the whole time naturally. The guy understands how to make pussy tingle...

She was just saying a half-hour earlier that she believes such behaviour is completely unacceptable...

Feminists won't even realize the stupidity of their own words as they decry the very same "misogyny" they like to be used against them one hour later.
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CNN is on in the background at work at the moment. Looks like Julien did an interview. They were having a post interview breakdown or something.
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(11-16-2014 08:14 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014...CMP=twt_gu

Talks of trying to ban Julien from entering the UK. If you are an Islamist hate-preacher, you may enter. If you are a convicted rapist from the other side of the world, you may enter. If you teach bad Game, you are a good PR piece to suck up to the current feminist meme.

That's really the most haunting thing about all of this I think.

Restrictions on travel are one of the hallmarks of any tyranny. The fact that countries are now banning the free travel of people, not because they are considered threats to the public security of the nation, but because their ideas are bad - because they did something or published something that certain entrenched ideologues don't like, shows how far down the rabbit hole we've gone.

I won't cry over the death of RSD as I consider them fraudsters taking advantage of needy men, but there is a much bigger threat here.

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