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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
I live up in the North of England where it gets dark as hell, after spending most of May-September in Poland, France and Spain I experienced a lot of sunshine. Now SAD has hit me like a train and for the past 2 weeks i've been having depressive symptoms to the max.

I've also been having a mediocre diet with barely any vegetables or fruits. Then recently I picked up cod liver oil with vitamin D, A, vitamin C and zinc as well as began to eat more veggies and fruits and I feel like myself again. I know supplementation is recommended for treating seasonal depression but I just want to give my own experience. It works, I feel better in all ways and for anyone with seasonal depression take my word for it and add some vitamin A, D (most important), C and zinc to your diet as well as following what's written on this thread.
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11-21-2017 01:25 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
I take these all year round and notice among many other things, they help, but that sometimes I feel at this point the reset and extra rest your mind needs catches up. For some reason I detect a little change around this time of year, usually, as well. It's not a big dip, but often I can discern that compared to months past, it is not the high level of motivation or mental acuity that is sustained. Usually you can tell that something has changed by what you feel like when awaking or how much sleepier you are at certain times. The good news is, you fight through it and you always come out of it.

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11-21-2017 01:55 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
I actually feel entirely different during Winter. I may lose a bit of "will to have fun", meaning I can grind and focus on work, education and all this stuff that literally seems impossible to do once it's summer and 30 degrees hot outside.

As far as I consider vitamins to be a great addition to your diet, what usually works much better as mood booster for me is a proper workout. Seriously, hitting the gym and lifting iron hard can be a game changer and most importantly hard workout always leads to LIBIDO increasement. Well, unless you overwork yourself both mentally and physically, then it's even worse, but as we live in 2017 lack of physical activity is a very common cause of any depressions, low libido etc.
11-21-2017 04:08 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
Any new ideas about fighting seasonal depression?

This weekend time shifted to winter mode and now it´s getting dark at 5pm. As I was really relaxed past few months, I remembered how bad I felt last winter. The sunlight affect my mood so much.
Today I was walking by the river, on last sunny day, and I felt it coming and immediately started to feel bad. I know it´s going to be unnecessarily tough for me if I don´t fight back.
10-28-2019 12:47 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
(10-28-2019 12:47 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  Any new ideas about fighting seasonal depression?

This weekend time shifted to winter mode and now it´s getting dark at 5pm. As I was really relaxed past few months, I remembered how bad I felt last winter. The sunlight affect my mood so much.
Today I was walking by the river, on last sunny day, and I felt it coming and immediately started to feel bad. I know it´s going to be unnecessarily tough for me if I don´t fight back.

The only thing to do is double down on self-improvement and accept that the winter is generally a bleak time. The reality is that you'll be spending more time indoors, so make sure this time is spent well. Despite the cold, I continue to exercise outdoors, sometimes even without a shirt. It's important to do everything in your power to make up for the testosterone dip when the leaves start falling. A few ways that help me cope off the top of my head:

- Morning Exercise (catch the first rays)
- Adequate Hydration
- Semen Retention
- Carnivore Diet
- Skill Building
- Reading

Above all, stay busy. This is the easiest way to fend off depression, but is one of the hardest things to begin. Having a regular, productive schedule keeps the demons at bay. Momentum is key.
10-28-2019 01:07 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
Tanning beds and lightboxes are the best, most effective, easiest solutions. Exercise and being social help too but are harder. With a tanning bed I'm never super miserable.
10-28-2019 01:34 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
I've used a lightbox in the mornings for the last three winters, although I can't confirm that it's helped. What has made a large difference is Vitamin D3. I found that 4 of the 1000IU capsules each day reverses my foul winter mood and restores my dormant libido.

This is WAY more Vitamin D than what USDA recommends, although it was a suggestion from my doc. My internet research tells me Vitamin D can build up toxic levels in the blood, so perhaps the habit will kill me eventually. Less than 4 capsules doesn't do anything for me though.
10-28-2019 10:11 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
Taking between 5k and 10k IU is no problem, btw, Constantine.

tom, how do you define what you are experiencing?

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10-28-2019 10:53 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
Thanks you guys.
What I experienced last winter was that I had no vibes at all. Everybody was asking me why I look so sad. I just didn´t have sense to feel anything positive or be happy from something. Generally I felt "shitty" all the time, without any significant reason. I tried to rationalize, that´s it´s just consequence of some chemical stuff going on in my body, but it didn´t help anyway. Also my success with girl rapidly decreased, but that´s just logical consequence of everything above.
What helped me the most was strict approach to my training. I trained everyday, with strong discipline towards a goal. But it didn´t give me any positive feeling, but only a short-lasting feeling of self-worth.

This year I want to be more prepared. I don´t want to immediately invest in some light therapy, though I think it might help to someone, but not everybody and it´s pretty expensive.
This is my plan:
- Supplements - I will just give my body what it´s missing because of lack of sunlight
- Training discipline - I will keep my training routine sharp. Usually I go running when it´s dark. I will try to go running when it´s still daylight outside, so I spend more time on it.
- Keeping myself social - Right now I invest a lot of time to meeting girls and I will continue with this. A walk with girl on chilly winter evening in city center always warms you.
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10-29-2019 10:11 AM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
(10-28-2019 10:11 PM)Emperor Constantine Wrote:  I've used a lightbox in the mornings for the last three winters, although I can't confirm that it's helped. What has made a large difference is Vitamin D3. I found that 4 of the 1000IU capsules each day reverses my foul winter mood and restores my dormant libido.

This is WAY more Vitamin D than what USDA recommends, although it was a suggestion from my doc. My internet research tells me Vitamin D can build up toxic levels in the blood, so perhaps the habit will kill me eventually. Less than 4 capsules doesn't do anything for me though.

What I have done is a blood check for 25OH D3. You will know where you are with your D3 levels. Toxicity of vitamin D3 is a myth. You would have to take huge doses for a long period of time without appropriate cofactors. It boils down to who you believe; big pharma set up certain levels but they differ from country to country. That is quite telling in a way, that something is not right. I listen to hollistic doctors not "mainstream" ones.

One could do an experiment. Check your D3 levels, sun bath with minimal clothing for 2 weeks and recheck. I would bet your levels will come out toxic according to doctors. My level is at 255 ng/ml which is 155 units over toxic levels. And I feel great, no seasonal depression, great energy and wellbeing. To achieve that I used 50k I.U. of D3 daily for 4 weeks, along with magnesium, and other fat soluble vitamins: E,A,K2MK7. You take these with fatty foods, liquid egg yolk inmy case.

The cofactors are important because:

Quote:Nutrients usually act in a coordinated manner in the body. Intestinal absorption and subsequent metabolism of a particular nutrient, to a certain extent, is dependent on the availability of other nutrients.

https://jaoa.org/article.aspx?articleid=...xPOGeSr8E4

PS. I know personally a man with 25OH D3 over 500 ng/ml and he is just great. Somehow he does not get any toxicity symptoms that we are being threathened with.

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11-02-2019 04:49 AM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
(10-29-2019 10:11 AM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  Thanks you guys.
What I experienced last winter was that I had no vibes at all. Everybody was asking me why I look so sad. I just didn´t have sense to feel anything positive or be happy from something. Generally I felt "shitty" all the time, without any significant reason. I tried to rationalize, that´s it´s just consequence of some chemical stuff going on in my body, but it didn´t help anyway. Also my success with girl rapidly decreased, but that´s just logical consequence of everything above.
What helped me the most was strict approach to my training. I trained everyday, with strong discipline towards a goal. But it didn´t give me any positive feeling, but only a short-lasting feeling of self-worth.

This year I want to be more prepared. I don´t want to immediately invest in some light therapy, though I think it might help to someone, but not everybody and it´s pretty expensive.
This is my plan:
- Supplements - I will just give my body what it´s missing because of lack of sunlight
- Training discipline - I will keep my training routine sharp. Usually I go running when it´s dark. I will try to go running when it´s still daylight outside, so I spend more time on it.
- Keeping myself social - Right now I invest a lot of time to meeting girls and I will continue with this. A walk with girl on chilly winter evening in city center always warms you.

The change in seasons is one of the reasons I am looking to relocate to somewhere constantly sunny (and why Florida is in the lead to solve that problem).
11-03-2019 12:18 PM
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(10-28-2019 01:34 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Tanning beds and lightboxes are the best, most effective, easiest solutions. Exercise and being social help too but are harder. With a tanning bed I'm never super miserable.

I quit smoking. Don't get me wrong, I love smoking. Love the feeling etc. but the risk / reward wasn't worth it. I suppose every man needs to make his own decision though.
11-07-2019 09:35 PM
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RE: Season depression/loss of libido
Yeh I wouldn't go as far as to say I experience depression or loss of libido but my mood is always more negative come late autumn and winter time. Could be due to vitamin D deficiency as some people have mentioned, it can affect your mood. Vitamin D deficiency could also lower your testosterone levels which could be a cause of your poor mood and especially the loss of libido.
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