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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
(12-06-2014 07:57 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  I hope I live long enough to see fascism take over Europe again as last resort to the immigration problem.

I've thought that too. Not that I'm a racist, at least not in the most negative sense of the word. But I am not an equalist - I do believe that different races excel at different things. We admit it with other mammals - why not homo sapiens? If I want to hire a sniffer dog - for drugs, bombs, etc - I am hiring a bloodhound or a german shepherd or a beagle. If I am hiring a guard dog, I am probably NOT getting a dachshund. Etc etc. So why do we have pretend that Africans and Europeans and Asians (and men and women for that matter) all have 100% the same aptitude at everything? Every see black people win the Olympic gold in swimming? You never will. High bone density/ low buoyancy. But marathons? It's a different Kenyan every year! All races (and both genders) excel at some things and less so at others. But that is verboten to say in today PC society.
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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
(12-07-2014 08:27 AM)The Father Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 07:57 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  I hope I live long enough to see fascism take over Europe again as last resort to the immigration problem.

I've thought that too. Not that I'm a racist, at least not in the most negative sense of the word. But I am not an equalist - I do believe that different races excel at different things. We admit it with other mammals - why not homo sapiens? If I want to hire a sniffer dog - for drugs, bombs, etc - I am hiring a bloodhound or a german shepherd or a beagle. If I am hiring a guard dog, I am probably NOT getting a dachshund. Etc etc. So why do we have pretend that Africans and Europeans and Asians (and men and women for that matter) all have 100% the same aptitude at everything? Every see black people win the Olympic gold in swimming? You never will. High bone density/ low buoyancy. But marathons? It's a different Kenyan every year! All races (and both genders) excel at some things and less so at others. But that is verboten to say in today PC society.

I see what you mean, but that's not why immigration problem is a ''problem''. Only the scum of the earth is migrating to Europe. Rape gangs, mafia, illegal workers, thieves, con artists, radical Islamists, terrorists, you name it and immigrants bring it to Europe. Maybe their races have something to do with why their homeland is so fucked up that they turn out this fucked up way, but it's not the color of their skin that matters when it comes to immigration problem, it's what they do once they immigrate.

What would apply to your point is that, every year we will see less white women and more brown women in Europe.

We all know what's the real cause of the immigration problem: welfare system, progressive policies and corrupt politicians like Obama who depend on immigrant votes. When I see a problem I'd like to suggest a solution too. The only way out that I see is a fascist constitution that revokes the votes of immigrant citizens, and then citizenships, and then finally residence permits and visas. But the only way to get there is that the current progressive policies and liberal Western European civilization as we know it collapse and the necessary lessons be learned.
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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
I wouldn't worry, there won't be a complete collapse in Europe. Most countries still have a strong hold of national/civic identity and a sense of traditionalism. Chances are a far right revival will come up, already there is a "new right" revival happening in Europe now. Currently because of my line of work, I am at the forefront of hearing these intellectuals and academics attempt to assess the current situation unfolding. They are completely clueless, they genuinely don't know how to approach the issue, because shaming is no longer working. They have come to terms with the fact that they are now the establishment and not the radical opposition, which really throws a spanner in the works of them rationalising their position.

Problem is multiculturalists and internationalists mostly come from an anti intellectual cloth. You read the works of non Euro Centrists who have actually seen the rise and collapse of nations within the last century. All point strongly towards national homogeneity, strong civic/national identity and a relatively sound cultural framework being necessary for a society to function. However this rational thought is relegated to being extremist in the West.
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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
(12-07-2014 08:27 AM)The Father Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 07:57 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  I hope I live long enough to see fascism take over Europe again as last resort to the immigration problem.

I've thought that too. Not that I'm a racist, at least not in the most negative sense of the word. But I am not an equalist - I do believe that different races excel at different things. We admit it with other mammals - why not homo sapiens? If I want to hire a sniffer dog - for drugs, bombs, etc - I am hiring a bloodhound or a german shepherd or a beagle. If I am hiring a guard dog, I am probably NOT getting a dachshund. Etc etc. So why do we have pretend that Africans and Europeans and Asians (and men and women for that matter) all have 100% the same aptitude at everything? Every see black people win the Olympic gold in swimming? You never will. High bone density/ low buoyancy. But marathons? It's a different Kenyan every year! All races (and both genders) excel at some things and less so at others. But that is verboten to say in today PC society.

This is complete nonsense, if you have actually watched the last few Olympics you would have seen black people winning medals in swimming events. So your theories are complete garbage.

Not sure what immigration and race relations have to do with feminism.

Feminism has been engineered long before most of you were even born. The main goal is to reduce the population, that is why we get nonsense talk about over-population and women inequalities.
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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
(12-06-2014 11:40 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 02:29 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Western countries do not face catastrophe, famine, death cults, struggles on day-to-day basis.

It is easy to dive into a life of excess outside of work when all you have to worry about is when you're paid, what girl you want to fuck and what meal you'd like.

This breeds familiarity and a soft underbelly in a country. When you want to build armies you need to take reasonably stable, physically fit men and train them into killers.

Do you like that soft bunny rabbit? Snap its neck and gut it for yourself or have a warehouse do it?

Haul how many gallons of fresh water you need to your house to bathe in or have systems to pump it there for you? 1 litre of water = 1KG. If you need 1000 litres to survive and you need to haul it yourself, would this build character, determination and hardiness or allow you time to fuck around on social media bemoaning how your new Iphone hasn't arrived yet.

When the basics of life, food, water, roof over your head and safety are all taken care of by others or money earned you tend to lose focus on how difficult it can be to live.

The reason feminism will never take over developing countries is because the women there are not whining, stuck-up babies who can just call a tradesman to fix her boiler as she is on facebook.

This breeds feminism. It gives people time to develop ego's and mouth-piece blogs on issues they have no right to complain about.

Forward-thinking countries with regards to higher thinking always descend into a pit of excess.

Perhaps feminism will never take over developing countries. However a cursory look at the Kurds, the feminist Kurdistan Worker's party and its corresponding PKK and YPG military(Which allows women to fight on the front lines) wings as well as the ''gender equal'' pershmerga may not put this beyond possibility. One doesn't need wealth to be feminist. Only that wealth gives feminists more power to wield.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers%27_Party

I would never lump those women fighters with the likes of our feminists here in the west. They're fighting multiple enemies on different sides to create an existence which is what I was getting at.

The women who fought in the NVA were the same. Women can fight alongside men if the society requires it and have bred women in this mould.

Soft bellied women who jerk around in Starbucks most of their life and think nothing except for friday and saturday nights are nothing like them. Its like pitting some men from an office job against a guy who does a demanding, rough job. Roughnecks are a good example of this.
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(12-06-2014 06:09 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:57 PM)MidWest Wrote:  Because of movies like this:





^^^^ I just saw it yesterday with a girl and it was disgusting. A huge ego boost to American women and feminists by the way it shamed men.

Seeing as the film is out of cinemas I was curious and might of seen it. There is a big plot twist, is the film worth watching?


Yeah I think so. The acting is great, but the message is bad. Only if you can stomach the shaming of men and feminine submissive girls its quite interesting.
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(12-06-2014 08:43 AM)player Wrote:  A civilization requires great virtue to become hugely successful, but once it is very prosperous its citizens can survive without virtue, and so success leads to decadence and hedonism. Without hardship and adversity to forge young boys into masculine men, the West has had a few generations of spineless, emasculated males letting the dark side of feminine nature shit all over civilization.

Agreed.

Progressives like to think that mindless hedonism where every whims of a man's will should be satiated and unleashed without restraint as a sign of an advanced and prosperous civilization. They have cause and effect backwards. A civilization isn't prosperous because it is consisted of hordes of trans-ethnic pansexual otherkin unicorns. Rather, a civilization that is prosperous already can afford to carry on dead weight and people who are a drain upon it.

I remember when that football player guy was trolling Gamergate by doing an AMA on KiA on Reddit and someone asked why he was so concerned with social justice issues and his reply was "History. Every civilization has failed, and generally it's due to some form of inequality driving social pressures or disasterous foreign policy decisions. If we don't fix the root problem, we'll end up in the same place." Yes I'm sure the Roman empire fell because they needed MORE man on boy sodomy and trannies running around. tard
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(12-07-2014 12:18 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 11:40 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 02:29 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Western countries do not face catastrophe, famine, death cults, struggles on day-to-day basis.

It is easy to dive into a life of excess outside of work when all you have to worry about is when you're paid, what girl you want to fuck and what meal you'd like.

This breeds familiarity and a soft underbelly in a country. When you want to build armies you need to take reasonably stable, physically fit men and train them into killers.

Do you like that soft bunny rabbit? Snap its neck and gut it for yourself or have a warehouse do it?

Haul how many gallons of fresh water you need to your house to bathe in or have systems to pump it there for you? 1 litre of water = 1KG. If you need 1000 litres to survive and you need to haul it yourself, would this build character, determination and hardiness or allow you time to fuck around on social media bemoaning how your new Iphone hasn't arrived yet.

When the basics of life, food, water, roof over your head and safety are all taken care of by others or money earned you tend to lose focus on how difficult it can be to live.

The reason feminism will never take over developing countries is because the women there are not whining, stuck-up babies who can just call a tradesman to fix her boiler as she is on facebook.

This breeds feminism. It gives people time to develop ego's and mouth-piece blogs on issues they have no right to complain about.

Forward-thinking countries with regards to higher thinking always descend into a pit of excess.

Perhaps feminism will never take over developing countries. However a cursory look at the Kurds, the feminist Kurdistan Worker's party and its corresponding PKK and YPG military(Which allows women to fight on the front lines) wings as well as the ''gender equal'' pershmerga may not put this beyond possibility. One doesn't need wealth to be feminist. Only that wealth gives feminists more power to wield.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers%27_Party

I would never lump those women fighters with the likes of our feminists here in the west. They're fighting multiple enemies on different sides to create an existence which is what I was getting at.

The women who fought in the NVA were the same. Women can fight alongside men if the society requires it and have bred women in this mould.

Soft bellied women who jerk around in Starbucks most of their life and think nothing except for friday and saturday nights are nothing like them. Its like pitting some men from an office job against a guy who does a demanding, rough job. Roughnecks are a good example of this.

I agree with your assessment of the differences between those women. However it puts the lie to the fact that feminism cannot thrive in non-wealthy countries. It just breeds different kinds of feminist. It also puts a lie to the fact that when the wealth of the country is gone that feminism goes away. It just becomes a more hardened version rather than the spoiled western variety. Although it can be said that when poor patriarchy and poor feminism compete. In the long run patriarchy wins as patriarchy is more apt to civilization. As the absence of matriarchy in any society but the isolate Mosuo demonstrates(until recently of course)
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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
Its because the governments favor it, "more tax dollars" equals more power, its really simple. Corporations working with governments push for it to happen. Governments grow substantially when women start working and women start spending frivolously.They also start subsidising many things like health care, aged care etc. All the traditional female work is parted. Socialist and Marxists seeds are sown.

When women can't compete with men intellectually, they call for daddy government to make it easier for them, "affirmative action" because female votes are easily bought. Its a spiraling affair, from then on.

They elites have succeeded in putting women first, because women are easily tricked by authority figures. Women, governments and elites, win in this system short term and average men lose. The corruption of this decadent system is showing, all the "prosperous" countries are going to shit economically, spiritually and mentally.

In the background of it all, women are still being led by corrupt greedy men at the top. For questions like these always look to the rulers and law makers, and see how they benefit from these systems.
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^ Brilliant +1 from me.

Women got the right to vote, not because voting matters but because it generated more tax dollars for the government (elite).

Women working means they have less time to start a family or have babies.

School system is now geared towards women.

Women are now acting like men, I am amazed when I am out how often I hear some young girl ranting about some nonsensical BS.

So yes forward thinking is a good way to describe these countries, I would say soft myself. The question what can you do about it, other than pack your bags and leave.

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RE: Why do seemingly "forward thinking" countries favor feminism?
Some quick historical perspective for those interested. Feminism is NOT new. It may be new in name, but the concept of women's "rights" is old, really old, and is just another word for giving women political power. It has been tried before in the past, many times, and has always resulted in failure.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-36481-...#pid737201

Quote:When women control men, that is the death knell of a culture. For example Sparta's women eventually became more powerful than the men, and then Sparta was conquered by the Thebans.

As Rome's women got more rights than the men, Rome fell into Civil War and was split into two.

The Byzantine Empire gave more rights to women in 500 AD, and went into nearly 400 years of territorial losses.

The Ottoman Empire was controlled by it's Sultanate of Women and entered non-stop decline for centuries until it's death in WWI.

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(12-08-2014 11:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Some quick historical perspective for those interested. Feminism is NOT new. It may be new in name, but the concept of women's "rights" is old, really old, and is just another word for giving women political power. It has been tried before in the past, many times, and has always resulted in failure.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-36481-...#pid737201

Quote:When women control men, that is the death knell of a culture. For example Sparta's women eventually became more powerful than the men, and then Sparta was conquered by the Thebans.

As Rome's women got more rights than the men, Rome fell into Civil War and was split into two.

The Byzantine Empire gave more rights to women in 500 AD, and went into nearly 400 years of territorial losses.

The Ottoman Empire was controlled by it's Sultanate of Women and entered non-stop decline for centuries until it's death in WWI.

More reading:

http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2003/01/wrin...-time.html

Interesting! Thanks for the link.

This all reminded me of Isaiah 3:12:

Quote:As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

Isaiah was a prophet who predicted Judah and Jerusalem's fall. It appears that when women are given power over men (or men act like women) it's a big symptom of societal decline and if not reversed, will lead to destruction.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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