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(12-31-2014 09:00 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  What this all boils down to is social contract. Do you live in a society that values your relative place in it and is there a strong communal and cultural spirit like Japan? If I were Japanese or in Japan then definitely women and children first.

In the U.S. however I wouldn't think twice before planting my heel into some fat broodmare's face in order to get one leg over a sinking ship.

what if the woman is loud, obese and demanding? do you still give her your spot on the life boat if you are in japan(or some other non usa country?)

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(12-31-2014 06:55 AM)Shitlord Wrote:  I'd be pushing and shoving every woman, pregnant woman, child, disabled and elderly out of the way to save myself. I am not joking. No one's life is worth more than mine to me.

I fail to see why some skank and her bastard spawn are worth saving over myself. Forget it.

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What if the pregnant woman's unborn chid was you?
Definition of narcissism "No one's life is worth more than mine to me."
You sound like the product of poor parenting.
Men are physically and mentally superior to women in extreme events like this.
Men have a better chance at survival because of this, your pseudonym suits you
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RE: Ferry catastrophe: Muslims beat women and children to save themselves
If i were in that situation, would I push people to escape, probably. It was chaotic I assume.

It's kinda silly, if you died helping women and children escape you'd be considered a hero and or a martyr if you are religious. Yet, if this article stated Muslim men were pushing and trying to save themselves is kinda ironic as many want to be martyrs? 72 virgins await. Goes to show how much nonsense peoples views on heroes, martyrs really are. Wouldn't you rather be a martyr known fir saving lives as opposed to blowing up other people. The amount of ignorance, intolerance, stupidity and un educated people in this world is mind boggling.
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RE: Ferry catastrophe: Muslims beat women and children to save themselves
(01-01-2015 12:54 AM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 06:55 AM)Shitlord Wrote:  I'd be pushing and shoving every woman, pregnant woman, child, disabled and elderly out of the way to save myself. I am not joking. No one's life is worth more than mine to me.

I fail to see why some skank and her bastard spawn are worth saving over myself. Forget it.

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What if the pregnant woman's unborn chid was you?
Definition of narcissism "No one's life is worth more than mine to me."
You sound like the product of poor parenting.
Men are physically and mentally superior to women in extreme events like this.
Men have a better chance at survival because of this, your pseudonym suits you

All completely irrelevant. I'm the most important person in the World to me and I come before everyone else. Women, pregnant women, children, the elderly, doesn't matter, I come first.
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RE: Ferry catastrophe: Muslims beat women and children to save themselves
Anglo men are/were the best in the world at giving up their spots on lifeboats for women.

They are then rewarded with the worst wives and mothers on the planet.

Not exactly inspiring for other men to learn from.

(12-31-2014 11:04 PM)eradicator Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 09:00 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  What this all boils down to is social contract. Do you live in a society that values your relative place in it and is there a strong communal and cultural spirit like Japan? If I were Japanese or in Japan then definitely women and children first.

In the U.S. however I wouldn't think twice before planting my heel into some fat broodmare's face in order to get one leg over a sinking ship.

what if the woman is loud, obese and demanding? do you still give her your spot on the life boat if you are in japan(or some other non usa country?)

Fat floats very well, so that whale IS your lifeboat.

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(01-01-2015 12:54 AM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  Shitlord
What if the pregnant woman's unborn child was you?
Definition of narcissism "No one's life is worth more than mine to me."
You sound like the product of poor parenting.
Men are physically and mentally superior to women in extreme events like this.
Men have a better chance at survival because of this, your pseudonym suits you

(Speaking for myself)

1: That unborn child ISN'T me. it's irrelevant
2: That isn't narcissism. It's Survival of the fittest. Narcissism is the treating of others as tools to fulfill your own personal desires.
3: Sucks for women. The strong are expected to die protecting the weak, thus perpetuating weak genes? This makes no sense. Now if a man were dying to save his children (and his wife, for the children's sake) then sure.

I think the problem here is the destruction of the Nuclear family. Historically, men have gone through all kinds of extremes to protect and provide for his family. But when you take away all hope of a stable family, then all that he has left to live for is himself. To expect him to throw his life away for a stranger is unreasonable.
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(01-01-2015 04:49 AM)Muk Wrote:  (Speaking for myself)

1: That unborn child ISN'T me. it's irrelevant
That unborn child could be you if you theoretically stepped oustside your existance and visited theirs, its called empathy
2: That isn't narcissism. It's Survival of the fittest. Narcissism is the treating of others as tools to fulfill your own personal desires.
"Mental disorder characterized by extreme self-absorption, an exaggerated sense of self-importance, and a need for attention and admiration from others."a dictionary definition
3: Sucks for women. The strong are expected to die protecting the weak, thus perpetuating weak genes? This makes no sense. Now if a man were dying to save his children (and his wife, for the children's sake) then sure.
No-one is expected to die, its a logical way of preserving life, by securing the safety of the weakest gender and less developed first as opposed to the weak gened.

I think the problem here is the destruction of the Nuclear family. Historically, men have gone through all kinds of extremes to protect and provide for his family. But when you take away all hope of a stable family, then all that he has left to live for is himself. To expect him to throw his life away for a stranger is unreasonable.

You may well be right about your observation, if you are, it's in transition because some of us were taught to protect the weaker in extreme events like this.

Our western culture has become more of a me culture that a we culture, poor roll models (from the entertainment industry to the home) accellerates it
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Personally I think it would depend on the nature of the threat.
If it means I will die relatively quickly, then I will give my life.
I am more hesitant in the other case.

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Some of you guys clearly learned something from the Titanic movie:

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The order which makes most sense would be:

Children and their parents, pregnant women and husbands, potential child-bearing women, young men, elderly women, elderly men, Crew, Ship's Officers, Captain.

There is little reason for unattached men to take precedence over a child and their parents, or a pregnant woman and her husband. The same should go for unattached women. The elderly have had the longest life, and so should be the last passengers to be rescued.

I think some of you guys are taking this whole thing a little overboard vis a vis your life being more important than another person, because you are you and they are not you. Very small minded way of looking at life.

I assume that this is due to the ever increasing numbers of atheists, but that might be a logical leap too far. You could just be a shitty person like Billy Zane up there. Or, aptly named, a ShitLord.

Edit - Re: the Muslim thing. While Islam is my least favourite of the Abrahamic religions, some of them, perhaps most, are good people. There are barbarians in every culture and religion, it just seems like Muslims have more than most in this current age.
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(01-01-2015 05:56 PM)Big Country Wrote:  There is little reason for unattached men to take precedence over a child and their parents, or a pregnant woman and her husband. The same should go for unattached women. The elderly have had the longest life, and so should be the last passengers to be rescued.

I think some of you guys are taking this whole thing a little overboard vis a vis your life being more important than another person, because you are you and they are not you. Very small minded way of looking at life.

I would agree with you if I lived in a mono-ethnic, mono-cultural society with many unspoken social rules and customs. For example, If I were a Japanese in Japan and had to give up my life to save other Japanese women and children, I would most likely do that because they would be my people. But I grew up in one multi-ethnic and multy-cultural country and now live in another, so I'd give up my life for family and close friends, but not for some people I don't know.
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In the sinking of the RMS Titanic, the survival rate of women and children was three times higher than men’s. In that instance, the captain ordered a women-and- children-first evacuation, and officers reportedly shot men who disobeyed - ultimate white knighting to the very end. I'll say this, I would never die for a woman.
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(01-01-2015 07:29 PM)Vamonos Pest Wrote:  In the sinking of the RMS Titanic, the survival rate of women and children was three times higher than men’s. In that instance, the captain ordered a women-and- children-first evacuation, and officers reportedly shot men who disobeyed - ultimate white knighting to the very end. I'll say this, I would never die for a woman.

I would die for my woman, but not for some random slut.
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(01-01-2015 07:31 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  
(01-01-2015 07:29 PM)Vamonos Pest Wrote:  In the sinking of the RMS Titanic, the survival rate of women and children was three times higher than men’s. In that instance, the captain ordered a women-and- children-first evacuation, and officers reportedly shot men who disobeyed - ultimate white knighting to the very end. I'll say this, I would never die for a woman.

I would die for my woman, but not for some random slut.

I would only die for my mother and grandmother.
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http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-9661.html

An interesting relevant thread.

(01-16-2012 05:12 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  
(01-16-2012 03:00 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  This may sound bad but I would definitely prioritize children and pregnant women because I would NEVER be able to sleep a night....but non-pregnant women??

I could sleep.

Pregnant women don't deserve extra consideration. Getting knocked up is no special accomplishment and an unborn fetus--who may turn out to be retarded, a still-born, or a noncontributing member of society--has a lot less value than I do. Decades of wisdom, ability, and potential--honed by countless hours of my own invested hard work and those around me--thrown away to save some random broad that merely spread her legs? Fuck that shit. I'm not some old man who's lived a full life. I'm a man in the prime of his life. The average kid or pregnant woman simply lacks my value. If that kid is from my family or has verified value, I may consider making a sacrifice. Otherwise, it's a battle for the life boat, and guess whose hours in the gym are going to be paying off right around then?



(01-16-2012 06:44 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  
(01-16-2012 06:20 PM)Wizard Wrote:  Declarations like these seem easier when you're not staring in the face of a women you've potentially condemned to death because you think your life holds more value, even if you could... I find it abhorrent.

Wanna bet? And, let's get this straight: I didn't condemn her to death--circumstances doomed us both. I'm more-than-willing to help a stranger in distress (in fact, I have), but I'm not willing to condemn myself to death simply because some old, discredited convention bids me to.

(01-16-2012 06:20 PM)Wizard Wrote:  Society might blissfully choose to decry masculinity, or anything associated with it but that doesn't mean that I have to join the club. Also you would be ostracized by society in general for such an action.

There's a difference between masculinity and chivalry. I'm afraid you've confused the two. There are plenty of non-masculine men willing to sacrifice their lives for another human being simply because that person happens to have a vagina. I--and I'm willing to bet the majority of the men in this forum are willing to join me in this--am not among them. Chivalry, like its requisite--but often neglected--other half (traditional lady-like behavior), is dead.

(01-16-2012 06:20 PM)Wizard Wrote:  A man has to be able to look at himself in the mirror everyday, and do so with pride. If I ever took the action you advocated, I honestly hope I have enough dignity left to put a bullet to my brain for acting like such a coward.

From your own description, it takes a lot more courage to look at another human being and choose yourself. If you're right that society will shun me, it takes balls to face them and say, "fuck you." It takes a man to do the unpopular. It takes a coward to genuflect to society's pressure and do what's "right" to others and not himself. I can help my fellow man a lot more alive than dead for some random broad on the street.

This isn't selfishness. This is knowing that I'm a valuable citizen and man.
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