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2014-2015 - Kaotic's self analysis review & guide on RVF
In May of 2014 I wrote this - “A Brutal Evaluation” of myself (funny how things change) Laugh

NOW: This will solely cover how I’m banging girls, results, thoughts, etc

The highs:
-My first legit threesome
-My first devil’s threesome (more of a funny story than anything)
-Fucked my first 2 legitimate Asian girls (Chinese & Vietnamese)
-Feel stronger and bigger than ever
-Got a main girl solid HB 8, compliments my life, while still gaming constantly
-Explored BDSM & Domination on girls (my first year doing so).
-Went to a bunch of festivals, shows, and events.

The lows:
-An abortion (with main)
-STD(with a notch, hasn’t surfaced since initial) (use condoms now)
-Lost a handful of solid HB 8/9 almost notches (problems with LMR, logistics, lost interest)

Major lessons Learned:
-Wear a fucking condom
-Always pull out also
-Screen sketchy dirty girls more.
-ALWAYS ALWAYS GO FOR THE BANG.

The notch count:
-27 bangs this year

The Breakdown:
-10 were first date bangs
-8 were 2nd date bangs
-8 were straight home bangs
-12 of these were one night stands (first date bangs + straight home bangs that I never saw again)
-16 were plates at one point

I will be happy to provide more stats as well.

Unfortunately I don’t have any approach stats, how many girls I never banged that I met, or bang to date ratio. I also can’t tell you my number to bang rate but I can honestly say it’s probably less than .400. I can truthfully say my ratio has to be over .500 for meet then bang, because I run strict and tight game once I get them out for a meet.

I’ll be keep better track this year.

Date Logistics:
-Try to have them meet you at your house – possible bang before even leaving, give them a quick tour, drop some feelers of things you want to show them later.
-DON’T do dinner – don’t be that chump man.
-I have 5 bars that are a mile away from house, 2 dive bars 3/4 of a mile away as well.
-I frequent one bar that has a loungey atmosphere, low lights, semi loud music.
-GET TO KNOW THE BARTENDERS, in my case I’m either friends with them or became friends.
-TIP THE BARTENDERS WELL – this is an investment, they’ll offer free shots/drinks and discounts in the future. They’ll also put in a good word when you go to the bathroom.
-APPETIZERS – it’s a heated debate, I’ve seen not using them and using them work, the jury is still out.
-I don’t usually need this but ALWAYS have a second venue option/or cooler option – this will continue the good night vibe.
-Have Uber/Taxi info on standby just in case you’re wasted, don’t be a fucking idiot and drive drunk and/or get a DUI.
-Your gut will tell you if she sees a high SMV, you’ll see IOI’s, your gut will tell you if it’s time to bounce.
-If not, use Venue #2 to feel thing out some more.
-PAYING, now usually I don’t mind (since I get hooked up now). However, let the tab come, DON’T pull out your wallet, wait a bit, let there be silence, see how she acts. If she pays/splits even better, if not just close it out.

Bang Logistics (Your Place):
-I don’t live by myself, the person I live with I rarely see, is sleeping, or isn’t home.
-I keep the house and my room dark as possible.
-My pad has some pretty cool things related to the extreme sports industry (paid hobby)
-I have a large TV in my room, along with a few PC screens, queen sized bed, some cool stuff on the walls.
-My TV is hooked up to my PC, so I can watch ANYTHING. Bitches love watching movies.
-I like to show off rifles/guns/autographed stuff in my room.
-My bed has super soft smooth fleece blanket then a comforter on top, girls LOVE soft blankets.
-Condoms, whips, cuffs, blinders, and binders are all bedside in a small drawer.

Personality wise:
I’ve seen A LOT of improvement in my confidence, the way I approach/react/adjust. Everything from the way I talk, the way I fuck, the way my body acts around girls.

The way I talk:
-Deep and strong (with eye contact)
-Always a smirk or a smile
-I’ve always been the clown/funny/asshole type.
-I’ll drop red pill truths into things I say.
-I escalate things sexually with jokes or take advantage things a girl says.
-I command the conversation and guide it into recon/intel extraction from the girl.

The way I physically act:
-My posture is a straight back with a strong chest.
-I don’t lean in when I talk to a girl, I lean back.
-Direct eye contact.
-I’ll walk in front of the girl when walking.
-I’ll admit I’ll act goofy as fuck sometimes, especially on the dance floor.
-Occasionally I’ll grab her hand to guide her somewhere.
-I’m aggressive and a dirty mother fucker in bed as well.

Text Game:
-The most important thing is to get the number ASAP, strike while the iron is hot.
-Try to keep it short, funny, and also USE IT MOSTLY FOR LOGISITICAL purposes.
-IF it’s long term text game (say a 5 days+) use text maintenance to keep interest.
-I’ve put in some decent follow up texts/replies in the “what should I text next thread”
-I’ve also covered text game on tinder pretty thoroughly as well, visit “Tinder App” thread.

Social Media Strategy:
-I don’t use FB to get girls, I use IG for this to show high SMV and IOI’s via pictures.
-I’ll share this with girls, only if they request it, my photos are fun, funny, with girls, and occasionally show off my body.
-GO OUT AND DO FUN SHIT, RECORD IT AND POST IT. I can’t emphasize this enough.
-If you’re good at taking photos use it to your advantage.
-A GoPro can be an awesome tool to take pics with (you can use on dating apps also). You don’t need to invest with a Nikon or Cannon or whatever.

TINDER:
Being the top contributor - read through the pages of the Tinder App

I’ll be honest quite a few of my bangs came through Tinder – a handful from OKC and POF so I’ll be focusing solely on Tinder (which you can apply to other apps).

Your Profile – make damn sure you have the following:
Pictures:
-Good pics of your face and/or body.
-Pictures of you and attractive HB7+’s in them.
-Pictures of action, shit that says you go out: sports, extreme sports, shooting, cool hike etc
-Suited up pics are always good, especially professional ones where you’re looking off camera.
-Throw in a funny picture if you like, ex: me HB8 + Mexican sombrero.
-DICK PICS ! (kidding)

Your Bio – bitches may swipe, but they sure as hell read, some examples:

-You can keep it light and funny “part time stripper/part time businessman”
-“I do what the fuck I want.”
-No time for BS always time for fun.
-Funny – do you all have the same cat/dog ? no I won’t follow your thirsty as on IG, do you all have ukulele’s ? do all of you eat the same food ?
-Short Descriptions “football, booze, guns, merica, adrenaline junkie, mosh pit enthusiast” etc
-Challenges/Qualifiers – “are you all basics?” “let me guess you’re unique and easy going? ” etc
-YOU’RE GETTING THE PICTURE BY NOW, USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.

Openers:
-“Hmmm 2 miles away? Are you stalking me!?”
-No Bio “well aren’t you just an open book”
-Relate to something in their pictures or bio “holy shit you like X also ?”
-Standards “You look like trouble” “something tells me you’re X” etc
-SERIOUSLY THESE ARE JUST A FEW, LOOK AT THE TINDER THREAD.

Closers:
-“Since you’re so close and you actually don’t seem crazy, let’s text and plan on meeting up”
-“ So how do I know you aren’t some 6’4’ 300lb dude named Bubba” blah blah “tell you what send me a selfie flipping me off, what’s your number ?”
-“I’ve got 3 important questions before I get your number. 1. 2.” Girl- “whats 3?” “what’s your number?”
-AFTER some convo “let me be honest and blunt, I don’t beat around the bush or waste time, You seem pretty normal and have your shit together, let’s meet up and see how we vibe, what’s your number?”
-^^^I’ve gotten 5 numbers in the last day and a half using a variation of this.
-SEARCH THE TINDER THREAD.

Tinder Text Game:
-DO NOT MESSAGE AND/OR TEXT GIRLS UNLESS YOU CAN MEET THEM IN A FEW DAYS.
-GIRLS INTEREST DROPS FAST, STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT
-My standard “hey it’s that handsome (physical trait) devil named kaotic” – has had a high reply rate after getting the number off tinder.
-Compliance/Submissive test – have them send you a selfie doing something unique to prove who they are, most girls who do send a selfie, show a IOI.
-Once again keep it light and funny, create SMV by telling them crazy stories of girls wanting you on Tinder, or a first date gone crazy/bad.
-LOGISTICS – keep it simple, take control, the standard “let’s me at x bar at x time on x night”

Summary:
This year has seen a mother fucking explosion in my game, bangs, and personal improvement. I can’t believe the success I’ve had this past year, all with the link to ROK a friend sent in group text as a joke. A few months later I was signed on RVF.

My sex life is strong, I don’t jack off (rarely), my aggressiveness in bed has skyrocketed, it shows in the gym also.

My inner-game - I seriously can’t believe where I was over a year ago and where I am now, it’s insane.

My main HB 8 is always getting compliments on how pretty she is, she listens/obeys me, I have been only in 1 argument this entire year with her, I’ve told her to knock things off only twice. She compliments my life for now so I enjoy the 1 or 2 days a week I’m with her.

This is a total 180 from my ex a few years ago – I can’t believe how I’m handling her.

Hunting pussy is so goddamn rewarding, it also keeps me sane and keeps my emotions in check with my main HB.
I also have NO regrets constantly fucking on the side.
Things I need to work on:

-I NEED TO DAY APPROACH MORE. It’s that simple.
-I need to rely on dating sites less.
-I need to gain more mass/strength in the gym.
-I need to push against LMR just a little bit more.

2015 Fuck Bucket List:

-Another threesome with hotter girls. (Mine were 2 7's at best)
-Fuck more 18-20 year old girls. (I'm getting better at it).
-Get a foreign flag in the states. (I've never had one).
-Travel to get foreign flags. (I just want to travel in general).
-Fuck more Asian girls. (Had my first 2 this year)

Please ask any questions you want on this thread, or PM me.

I'd appreciate any feedback, advice, constructive criticism as well. Laugh

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I would rep you again but i already did. Awesome post and a inspiration for other brown dudes as well as the average bloke.
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My favorite post on RVF. Inspiring to say the least kaotic. All the best in 2015!

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+1 from me. Great breakdown as well as having the minerals to put your stats out there

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Great post man. I feel really happy when I see fellow members improving their lives.

Cheers to you and may this year be even better.

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Very Inspiring man!!

I will likely build a bang spreadsheet for 2015. Number of bangs, Date, Where I met XYZ, Some rating, how many bangs with the same girl...
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I've seen you drop some golden posts recently man, keep it up.
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Good stuff. I remember your original thread where you sounded really frustrated and annoyed with where you were in the game. I think that was around the time I had joined the forum. Anyway, I'm glad that you took control and started kicking even more ass.

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This is truely inspiring . I hope my first game aware year will be half as successful as yours .
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Thanks gents I'm thankful I'm able to help others and myself as well.

2014 has been an amazing fucking year !

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Appreciate you taking the time to write this up. Hope to mirror this in some way in 2015.
Can you touch on how you have tweaked your game over this past year?
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+1 baby, rock on.

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Well done broseph

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(01-07-2015 04:19 PM)themilkman Wrote:  Appreciate you taking the time to write this up. Hope to mirror this in some way in 2015.
Can you touch on how you have tweaked your game over this past year?

To be honest, I practiced what I read.

Grabbing my balls and using them, I already had a red pillish view of the world before 2014, here are some things that helped:

-LIFT, LIFT, LIFT you'll sleep better, you look/feel better, confidence.
-EAT right, eat clean, organics if possible, I've always done this.
-Read about my body language, I changed this alot.
-I stopped speaking FAST and high, slow and low, with strong eye contact.
-I stopped talking to any girl I wanted to bang, that I was friends with.
-Using dating apps to get bangs.
-Just talking to all sorts of girls (I still need to day approach more)

To be honest alot of what I wrote above in my main post is what I've BECOME, not what I was.

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Kaotic, this is a terrific post. I will be coming back to it many times in the coming months.

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Hows 2015 going so far?
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Highlights:

-8 bangs- My goal was younger.

4 were 18
2 were 19
1 was 22
1 was 21

So I'm winning in that department, I'm getting more comfortable with sober coffee dates.

3 new plates - one wants a threesome, one just has an absolutely banging body, the other for some reason just gets my dick harder than the rest, maybe it's that horny latin moan.

Another Threesome - Low Quality but a funny story.

Bang Quality:

I'd say I've broken even, even though my goal is hotter girls.

Date Quality:

Has gotten better, I did lose 2 solid 8 bangs.

1-Didn't push hard/escalate enough the first night in my bed.
1-Pushed hard, but wouldn't put up with BS flaking and she went radio silent.

It's easier to pull numbers, I'm still using dating apps alot.

I enjoy my main more, she also told me she loved me, I responded with "I know". Laugh (Don't get me wrong I'm in the same boat as her, I just show it)

I've got 3 dates lined up this week are 7+

I've starting running on the treadmill again (cutting season for music festivals)....backs a bit fucked on that.

Z-Pac Anti-Biotics have fucked up my digestive tract. It's been 2 months of misery, never again am I popping scrips.

I feel strong, but could be more organized at the gym.

Also, I haven't had an outbreak of herpes (yet) -fingers crossed- since the original outbreak back in late November. I think I'm going to go get tested again to check up on it.

I really can't complain, life's been good so far.

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How do you make sure your main or main's friends don't catch you on these dating apps/sites?

edit: sorry for bumping an old thread. I'll post this in your new one.
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Thanks go out to Articulatecool for bumping this inspiring thread.

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(01-05-2016 04:18 AM)articulatecool Wrote:  How do you make sure your main or main's friends don't catch you on these dating apps/sites?

edit: sorry for bumping an old thread. I'll post this in your new one.

I replied to you in the 2015-2016 thread.

Well since I dumped her it doesn't matter but here are some guidelines:

-Make your radius close to your work and home, don't make it 20 miles or whatever
-Create a fake FB to link to so you don't have common friends or interests
-If you get caught (which I did) DENY TILL YOU DIE. I claimed it was an ex catfishing me and she believed me. Make a story up.
-Don't shit where you eat, as in don't take your girl you would take your dates. I have a certain bar I take her, the side girls come to my house or a local dive bar only
-She didn't live in my city, she lives 30-45 minutes away
-I didn't hangout with her friends and she didn't have many to hangout with to begin with
-Keep your phone locked down, remove notifications on your lock screen if you have an iPhone
-Make sure other girls you have in your rotation or are taking on dates aren't from your city

Feel free to ask anymore questions.

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