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(07-24-2015 09:04 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  Apparently there's a leaked audio of Hogan using the "N" word. I haven't listen to it yet so I don't know if he was being racist.

Hogan is getting the Chris Benoit treatment and is being taken off all WWE products. They're scrubbing everything Hogan related off their website including his name on the hall of fame list and is taking him off the show "tough enough" where he was one of the judges.

I'm on my phone so no links to sources.


What???

First of all, the WWE has no room to talk or be some kind of moral judges on anything because they are as racist as they can get. Over the years they have promoted lame stereotypical racial stereotypes with some of their superstars and gimmicks. Vince McMahon has said the "N" word multiple times and live on TV. I recall him calling Booker T the "N" word.

I don't know if you guys remember back in the 90s a wrestler named "Kamala" from Uganda. It was a fat African who was uncivilized, vicious, cannibalistic, who pranced around in loincloth and face paint. He was always inside his cage during his entrance and had a handler who told him how to do a pin.






Another horrible gimmick was the one of three Mexican wrestlers who were called the "Mexicools". They would come out wearing matching overalls and riding to the ring on a lawnmower. Their special weapons? Rakes and brooms.






Also, Vince McMahon couldn't let a good Muslim situation go to waste post 9/11 with the wrestler "Muhammad Hassan" where they debuted in Alabama of all places. His heel gimmick was so good that he even got death threats.






Hulk Hogan (The All-American hero) saves Shawn Michaels from what seemed like some kind of hanging over the rope by Muhammad Hassan. Shawn Michaels later said after the match that he's never heard the crowd roar and pop like that in his professional career.






Can't forget about Shelton Benjamin's Momma





Alberto Del Rio slapped a WWE employee for calling him a wetback.


I must admit though that Vince McMahon is a marketing genius and isn't scared of using racial stereotypes to promote certain gimmicks, but he is no moral judge when it comes to racism. They want to get rid of Hogan for saying the N word? The WWE? Give me a break.
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I don't think he's making a moral judgement, just a financial one. And him doing racist things himself makes it that much more important that he distance himself so he is not tarred with the same brush.
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(07-24-2015 02:19 PM)MidWest Wrote:  
(07-24-2015 09:04 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  Apparently there's a leaked audio of Hogan using the "N" word. I haven't listen to it yet so I don't know if he was being racist.

Hogan is getting the Chris Benoit treatment and is being taken off all WWE products. They're scrubbing everything Hogan related off their website including his name on the hall of fame list and is taking him off the show "tough enough" where he was one of the judges.

I'm on my phone so no links to sources.


What???

First of all, the WWE has no room to talk or be some kind of moral judges on anything because they are as racist as they can get. Over the years they have promoted lame stereotypical racial stereotypes with some of their superstars and gimmicks. Vince McMahon has said the "N" word multiple times and live on TV. I recall him calling Booker T the "N" word.

I don't know if you guys remember back in the 90s a wrestler named "Kamala" from Uganda. It was a fat African who was uncivilized, vicious, cannibalistic, who pranced around in loincloth and face paint. He was always inside his cage during his entrance and had a handler who told him how to do a pin.






Another horrible gimmick was the one of three Mexican wrestlers who were called the "Mexicools". They would come out wearing matching overalls and riding to the ring on a lawnmower. Their special weapons? Rakes and brooms.






Also, Vince McMahon couldn't let a good Muslim situation go to waste post 9/11 with the wrestler "Muhammad Hassan" where they debuted in Alabama of all places. His heel gimmick was so good that he even got death threats.






Hulk Hogan (The All-American hero) saves Shawn Michaels from what seemed like some kind of hanging over the rope by Muhammad Hassan. Shawn Michaels later said after the match that he's never heard the crowd roar and pop like that in his professional career.






Can't forget about Shelton Benjamin's Momma





Alberto Del Rio slapped a WWE employee for calling him a wetback.


I must admit though that Vince McMahon is a marketing genius and isn't scared of using racial stereotypes to promote certain gimmicks, but he is no moral judge when it comes to racism. They want to get rid of Hogan for saying the N word? The WWE? Give me a break.

WWE has trolled everyone. The Iron Sheik, all the Soviet Russian characters over the years, etc. etc.

I personally liked the goofballs in the Full Blooded Italians.

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I liked La Resistance. Two sobbish French guys who always came out and talked French and smack about America.

William Regal. A high cultured, British royalty guy from London.

Los Guerrero's with their Lie, Cheat and Steal gimmick.

Good times.
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"Rowdy" Roddy Piper died.

Im very sad, as he was one of my favourite wrestlers. Plus he had his part in "They Live" by John Carpenter.

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(08-01-2015 10:14 AM)whoishe Wrote:  "Rowdy" Roddy Piper died.

Im very sad, as he was one of my favourite wrestlers. Plus he had his part in "They Live" by John Carpenter.

Bummer. He was pretty entertaining. I remember that movie. I think that was the longest fight scene I have seen in a movie. Rest in peace.

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I'm completely gutted about the death of Roddy Piper, I met the man a year ago and he was an absolute gentleman, full of character and kindness.

He could tell a story like no one else and will be missed.

I have changed my profile pic of the day I met him.

RIP Hot Rod
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Came here for wrestling (combat/sport) thread. Completely forgot pro wrestling was a thing.
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(08-01-2015 11:13 AM)Haig Wrote:  I'm completely gutted about the death of Roddy Piper, I met the man a year ago and he was an absolute gentleman, full of character and kindness.

He could tell a story like no one else and will be missed.

I have changed my profile pic of the day I met him.

RIP Hot Rod

About five months before he passed away, I was at the Toronto west end YMCA checking in and look behind me - and there was Roddy Piper also checking in. He looked great. I did not say anything to him bc I did not want to invade his personal space.
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[Image: Sheikvs.Funk.jpg]I give up on modern wrestling. It has become too scripted, Hollywood, and over superficial. It has also become a lot more dangerous - with wrestlers trying to maintain the very unhealthy life style - steroids and the over the top gymnastics moves.

Old wrestling had a realism and mystery. The best for me was the original Sheik. He sent terror and mayham wherever he went. He only weighed 240lbs and never spoke a word of English. Back then wrestlers rarely got hurt but wrestling was real as ever.
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(10-05-2015 03:00 AM)sour grapes Wrote:  [Image: Sheikvs.Funk.jpg]I give up on modern wrestling. It has become too scripted, Hollywood, and over superficial. It has also become a lot more dangerous - with wrestlers trying to maintain the very unhealthy life style - steroids and the over the top gymnastics moves.

Old wrestling had a realism and mystery. The best for me was the original Sheik. He sent terror and mayham wherever he went. He only weighed 240lbs and never spoke a word of English. Back then wrestlers rarely got hurt but wrestling was real as ever.

Now that's what I can workin' stiff. Really puts John Cena's shitty looking STF hold to shame.

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(10-05-2015 02:49 AM)sour grapes Wrote:  
(08-01-2015 11:13 AM)Haig Wrote:  I'm completely gutted about the death of Roddy Piper, I met the man a year ago and he was an absolute gentleman, full of character and kindness.

He could tell a story like no one else and will be missed.

I have changed my profile pic of the day I met him.

RIP Hot Rod

About five months before he passed away, I was at the Toronto west end YMCA checking in and look behind me - and there was Roddy Piper also checking in. He looked great. I did not say anything to him bc I did not want to invade his personal space.

Piper was awesome he was a genuine character and had so many stories to tell.

He could have talked for about 10 hours and would still have something new and original to say.

They don't make them like this anymore.
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Top that mo'fos!



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I recently came across some of Jim Cornette's best rants. Oh holy hell.

I'm not sure what is his best rant, probably "thank you fuck you bye!" to Johnny Ace.










Here is the Vince Russo rant.




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(12-30-2016 07:02 PM)eradicator Wrote:  I recently came across some of Jim Cornette's best rants. Oh holy hell.

I'm not sure what is his best rant, probably "thank you fuck you bye!" to Johnny Ace.










Here is the Vince Russo rant.




As a longtime wrestling fan, goddamn I could listen to Cornette speak for Hours and Hours! Do yourself a favor... and watch that last clip. Legendary!!
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RIP Jimmy Snuka: http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonydimor...1d30a1b4c8

He was one of my favorite wrestlers as a kid. I'll never forget his finishing splash move from the top rope. Still to this day, one of the best finishes in the business.

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He was one of the stars of the first Wrestlemania, helping to make the industry what it is today. A fantastic and charismatic entertainer...

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I'll admit I used to watch a bit of this. I got a wake up call after finding out about the company's response to incidents like owen hart's fall to death in front of a live audience, and of course when they simply ghosted when Chris Benoit literally went crazy from years of Brain trauma sustained in their rings.
As an aside, there's several legitimate websites reporting on the deaths of current or past wrestlers. Almost all of them are dying prematurely and painfully. WWE is never held accountable for this.
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(01-16-2017 02:57 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  I'll admit I used to watch a bit of this. I got a wake up call after finding out about the company's response to incidents like owen hart's fall to death in front of a live audience, and of course when they simply ghosted when Chris Benoit literally went crazy from years of Brain trauma sustained in their rings.
As an aside, there's several legitimate websites reporting on the deaths of current or past wrestlers. Almost all of them are dying prematurely and painfully. WWE is never held accountable for this.

Owen's death was unfortunate, and WWF/E did end up paying $18 million in a court settlement to the Hart family.

Benoit's death I think is on him more than WWE. Not only did he kill himself, but he took two others with him. At most they could have stopped him from doing certain wrestling moves (diving headbutt), but Benoit had a lot of personal issues regardless, within his own introverted mind shutting out a healthy social life in his teenage years to focus on working out. He was on his 3rd marriage in 2000 by the age of 33 with a woman with her own issues - a known reputation for kinky BDSM, who had filed for divorce from him after 3 years (later withdrawn).

There's even a theory he killed her during sex, as Xanax, as well as codeine & morphine-related drugs were found in her body with no signs of restraint. She died in their bedroom, limbs bound, of asphyxiation, with bruises on her back and stomach and a pull cord around her neck - of course, he may have intentionally set this all up to kill her. I think it may have been unintentionally, possibly some role-play sex gone wrong, but who knows.
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I love wrestling, been watching it off and on since the attitude era. The Royal Rumble on the 29th already has an exciting lineup.

I kind of doubled down on my mma/wwe/nfl watching after the streep rant a couple weeks ago. They announced that Kurt Angle is getting inducted to the hall of fame this year, so he might finally be coming home. Overall I think the show has gotten more interesting these past few months.
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Kurt deserves to be in there. Looking forward to the Rumble this year more than last year - Triple H buffoonery!

It's in Florida this year, so maybe The Rock goes in this year as well.

Owen Hart and Rick Rude are two more deceased that deserve to be in. Owen's widow is keeping that from happening though.

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This is the best match you will ever see.

Kenny Omega vs Okada.....

Crazy.

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(01-17-2017 05:00 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  This is the best match you will ever see.

Kenny Omega vs Okada.....

Crazy.




NJPW has come a long way since Inoki-ism. Hell, they even overcame WWE raiding their talent one year ago. It's a testament to how completely stacked the roster is; four top talents leave and the product is right back on schedule 365 days later.

NJPW is far ahead of WWE in terms of in-ring matches. WWE has the most stacked roster in its history, and far too many in-ring limitations for wrestlers to work with. Not to mention it's over-saturation.

In these coming years, we'll see guys from the Indies(Omega,Ospreay, Zack Sabre Jr., Chuck Taylor..etc) who aren't willing to relinquish 'artistic integrity' for a meaty contract. NJPW's expansion into the West will prove beneficial for those guys.

(10-05-2015 03:00 AM)sour grapes Wrote:  I give up on modern wrestling. It has become too scripted, Hollywood, and over superficial. It has also become a lot more dangerous - with wrestlers trying to maintain the very unhealthy life style - steroids and the over the top gymnastics moves.

Old wrestling had a realism and mystery. The best for me was the original Sheik. He sent terror and mayham wherever he went. He only weighed 240lbs and never spoke a word of English. Back then wrestlers rarely got hurt but wrestling was real as ever.

Puroesu(Japanese Pro-Wrestling) is rooted in tradition which ironically is what makes it so fresh. Japanese guys who utilize a more 'stiff' and 'shoot' moveset call it 'Strong Style'. A number of guys who work on the Indies in the states use it as opposed to 'Flippy Shit'. Though, 'Strong Style' that's used outside of Japan is toned down.
No one would book a mofo who legitimately beats the shit out of guys, unless the guy is a big draw.
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Went into Wrestlemania 33 with low expectations because of its lackluster build, and it turned out to be perhaps the best Wrestlemania is the past ten years. Watched it at a bar with a bunch of passionate folks. The place shook when The Hardy Boyz' music hit.

These are guy who have been working still, since the day they left WWE. They've been a fixture on the independent scene, and actually managed to have a career revival with the BROKEN gimmick on TNA. The shit is so hilariously bizarre, they became the biggest thing in the business for a hot minute:








A brother nearly shed a tear by the end of the show with The Undertaker; dude is an institution. Mark Callaway has been present in every single era of that company's existence since they've been on television. The decision to have his demise come at the end of Roman Reigns(discount Jason Momoa) is understood, but lackluster nonetheless.

My earliest memories of Taker date back to the Ruthless Aggression era of 'Smackdown!', with the rest of the Big Five(Eddie,Rey,Benoit,Angle,Cena). Guy creeped me the fuck out, but managed to capture my imagination while doing it. One of the guys who I'll cite as to why I decided to get into the industry. Much respect.




In one year's time, it'll be Reigns vs. Lesnar. The only two men to have pinned Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Can't imagine how much of a debacle that'll be considering how hated Reigns is and how over Lesnar continues to be. Case in point:



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Reigns has the making of a killer heel, WWE are missing the boat here.

Undertaker should have lost to Bray Wyatt, then have him do a streak. Not as long as UT of course.

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Since this thread is as dead a Clinton's bedroom, Lordless is commandeering this shit. WWE is wack as fuck(though a negro does partake from time to time), so I'll post up reviews of Puroesu and Indy bouts; present and past. Certain you mofos that don't even watch the shit will get a kick out of it. There's a money-back guarantee if you don't skeet, or at the least, say "Damn!" before the pinfall. You can pick up the cash bag from my good friend Mr. Hoffa.

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