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(01-16-2019 04:17 PM)tr1cky Wrote:  I do not like negs. Or neg theory. I've also never gamed in the LA high end scene so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Problem with negs is like 20% of women take anti depressants. The odds of a neg going sideways is high.

However, gunwtch has a program he put out a couple years ago that was gold. In the program he described how during rapport he would run the Us vs the world/room game.

He would start with some innocent "who in here do you think can make a million dollars the fastest?" Then he slowly escalates it to mean things, "wow look at that fucking guy over there. I bet he smells like cat piss". Do that until she says something fucked up about someone in the room.

At that point you completely withdraw and shift your body language before replying "wow that was... that was pretty fucked up. I was only joking. I cant believe you said that "

He notes the interaction will take a very dark turn as the energy shifts. The girl will feel like a piece of garbage. If you shift into a sexual state the girl will follow because she will be craving your validation so hard she will follow whatever frame you set.

The way he described it had me laughing for 10 minutes straight, as fucked up as the technique sounds.

Ps for the new guys who only hit the gym, take no shit (alpha boss), and go to bars to "open" in hopes of getting Into a "random conversation" thats leads to sex the above method should give you a glimpse into how deep game/influence can go.

**edit I feel bad outting his technique, not sure if he posted it on other forums. Anyone interested, his program is still for sale on his website witch. 60 for like stupid cheap. I think its close to 10 hours of shit
I've actually done this before, but instead of getting the girl to talk shit about someone, I get her to admit to something that she feels guilty about. Or I bring up a time when she felt "betrayed" by one of her friends, and then sooner or later she says "yea what a bitch" and then I go all "wow, can't believe you said that, do you have any real friends?"

I never knew this was an actual technique, I just thought it was an interesting way to make a girl validate herself. Also makes for some pretty interesting man-to-woman dynamics. "Guys don't act like that, they do this..." etc.

But thanks for sharing! I will play around and vary the times at which I throw this out during the interaction (early? mid-early? before I move her around the venue? after we bounce? before or after kino? etc.) and see how it makes different girls react.

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For that example you would use it towards the tail end of the interaction right before you pull home.

You wouldn't want to go into sexual state early in the interaction before you have enough attraction and trust build up.
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(01-16-2019 04:17 PM)tr1cky Wrote:  I do not like negs. Or neg theory. I've also never gamed in the LA high end scene so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Problem with negs is like 20% of women take anti depressants. The odds of a neg going sideways is high.


A neg doesn't necessarily have to be that hard though. It can be in correlation to your character, it can be gentle or more brutal. Ultimately, it's all about tone and contrast, I would say.

For instance, some lizards can take "I'm sorry, I can't meet you until next week as I've got a project due" as a neg...

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@tr1cky

A neg is anything that's other than seeking her approval. The baseline for a girl, a cute girl, and a hot girl is that men are always seeking their approval and validation.

Anything other than that? Is essentially a neg. And the neg works when she starts seeking his approval and validation.

Some dudes can outright insult a chick. Back handed compliments, dudes that try to be real slick. That's some kindergarten stuff. It can work, but I see how a lot of guys shy away from that.

They (we, me) still have people on pedestals, automatically giving strangers respect - as opposed to a "boss" who demands respect from others, and rarely gives his own. A lot of us? We don't even entertain that game - but that's the game that everyone else around us is playing. I've heard this described as "sigma". Where most folks are Alpha, Beta, and Omega - there are people outside of the fray, not really trying to participate, not really trying to win the rigged game.

Back to negs

Low Key negs
- Not paying attention to every word that she says
- eye rolls
- scanning the room
- leaning back so she has to lean in
- gazing off in the difference
- cutting off her boring ass stories

Those are all negs. (Those are all old school negs as well.)

Teasing a girl is a neg.

Learning how to do all the ranges of the neg is crucial to checking a chick when she crosses your boundaries. Cause if you don't learn how to check a chick, all you have left is to totally withdraw from a broad. That's fine when you're just bouncing these chicks in and out of your bed. But you'll find yourself in a relationship, and the chick is engaging in harmful activity, and all you can think to do is leave the room (physically or mentally). You have to be able to engage in guidance and direction that's more hands on. Leadership just ain't "by example".

That's a lesson I had to learn deep way too late in my pick up career. No use in crying over lost relationships, but had I been more skillful in direct confrontation with a chick, trying to throw some guidance her way out of love (not out of the desire to control), I'd probably would have kept some of the chicks that I actually liked.

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African Refugee moves to polland and launches a career in human rights. Uses racism and women's need to be a sjw to get laid and turns out to be HIV positive.


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(01-19-2019 02:00 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  African Refugee moves to polland and launches a career in human rights. Uses racism and women's need to be a sjw to get laid and turns out to be HIV positive.


This guy died in 2008, well over a decade ago.
Why is this posted here?

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@WIA so then how would you go about guidance and walking that fine line between overbearing or kind of pushover outside of leading by example.
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At Pharoah.

At the deepest level, you have to be okay with losing the girl.

On the practical side, that's having your money right and your social skills popping.

But a chick is gonna leave you when the economy is down, when you are in a new city with no connects.

So it comes back to being okay with losing her, because you have yourself.

There are a shit ton of broken guys in this forum, and in this community. A lot of them don't realize it. Chick hurt them bad, and they found their identity in being the pickup guy, or the MAGA guy, or the rich guy. Things stop working and they can't cope.

Got to go back to the core of who you are.

Dude who wrote game of thrones, I remember reading somewhere that his girl/wife betrayed him for someone else. I swear that was the inspiration for this

"Are you so craven?"

The words shocked him. He was Jaime Lannister, a knight of the Kingsguard, he was the Kingslayer. No man had ever called him craven. Other things they called him, yes; oathbreaker, liar, murderer. They said he was cruel, treacherous, reckless. But never craven.
"What else can I do, but die

Jamie - What else can I do, but die?"

Brienne- "Live," she said, "live, and fight, and take revenge."

Craven, Jaime thought.... Can it be? They took my sword hand. Was that all I was, a sword hand? Gods be good, is it true?
The wench had the right of it. He could not die.

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So what are people planning for the Super Bowl?

There’s a lot going on in ATL. And it’s overpriced AF!

Shaq is hosting a party carnival-type party at this new ATL spot right next to baseball arena. Lowest ticket price is $350...

A couple of big name DJs are performing at local spots...minimum $100 for general admission...so many Facebook ads popping up on my feed!

Apparently stripclubs are petitioning to stay open later on Superbowl Weekend, too.

I feel like this is the core of Atlanta’s entertainment culture, though. Flash, flash, flash. Just with a Dirty South twist to it.

So I’m definitely gonna be at a house party!
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Western European women, i just do not get them.

1) Can't smash them.
2) Cant talk to them without wanting to turn the volume down.
3) I just have no ability to read them. I know the sexuality is there but I can't bring it out of them, or at least make them act on it.

Anyone else have this problem?

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(01-20-2019 09:04 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Western European women, i just do not get them.

1) Can't smash them.
2) Cant talk to them without wanting to turn the volume down.
3) I just have no ability to read them. I know the sexuality is there but I can't bring it out of them, or at least make them act on it.

Anyone else have this problem?

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BasketBounce,

Is the Super Bowl in ATL this year? That should be fun. Events are always expensive cause companies pay for all the tickets so 90% of the room in any given venue is comped.

thedarkknight,

You have to break down your typical approach or a specific experience with a girl to get any useful advice.

But no one does field reports these days.

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The conclusion with Western European women is the same.

Basically, without these white chicks knowing what I do and knowing my personality, white chicks, the ones that are in my orbit, have extremely high walls. I still maintain they have the highest degree of prejudice than any other race.This has been my experience.

Basically, I have to establish a higher degree of comfort, so as to get my foot in the door, so I can be friend-zoned.

With the more melalinated ethnicities, I find them more sincere and less like cats. These white chicks? Completely out of my element.

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Ironically, we have nearly complete control over most people’s immediate outwardly perception of us. From there, most humans use confirmation bias to justify that initial perception whether good or bad.
It wasn’t until I learned this that social manipulation and maneuvering became infinitely more easier. Oftentimes, when I thought the reactions I was getting were racially tinged, it was nothing more than basic interpersonal non-verbal communication dynamics at play. You see, as a black man, with a “resting mean face” coupled with a very large stature, I intimidated others often. I was accused of looking mean, mad, serious, upset, pissed off etc, though I could’ve been thinking about puppies & ice cream.
As Black Men, we need to learn ( as did I) to smile more. So much so, there had been an entire hashtag movement and subsequent website dedicated to it. We’re conditioned to be hard and thought simple acts like smiling could be considered “soft” or week.

http://blackmensmile.com

I love new interactions, it’s like a brand new chance to perfect my theatrical performances. Oftentimes I still have to remind myself to think of myself outside of myself.

"Don't ever let a woman rape your time." ~kaotic~
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(01-20-2019 11:45 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Ironically, we have nearly complete control over most people’s immediate outwardly perception of us. From there, most humans use confirmation bias to justify that initial perception whether good or bad.
It wasn’t until I learned this that social manipulation and maneuvering became infinitely more easier. You see, as black man, with a “resting mean face” coupled with a very large stature, I intimidated others often. I was accused of looking mean, mad, serious, upset, pissed off etc, though I could’ve been thinking about puppies & ice cream.
As Black Men, we need to learn ( as did I) to smile more. So much so, there had been an entire hashtag movement and subsequent website dedicated to it. We’re conditioned to be hard and thought simple acts like smiling could be considered “soft” or week.

http://blackmensmile.com

I love new interactions, it’s like a brand new chance to perfect my theatrical performances. Oftentimes I still have to remind myself to think of myself outside of myself.

What you saying?

TDK

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(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  The conclusion with Western European women is the same.

Basically, without these white chicks knowing what I do and knowing my personality, white chicks, the ones that are in my orbit, have extremely high walls. I still maintain they have the highest degree of prejudice than any other race.This has been my experience.

Basically, I have to establish a higher degree of comfort, so as to get my foot in the door, so I can be friend-zoned.

With the more melalinated ethnicities, I find them more sincere and less like cats. These white chicks? Completely out of my element.

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(01-20-2019 11:48 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:45 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Ironically, we have nearly complete control over most people’s immediate outwardly perception of us. From there, most humans use confirmation bias to justify that initial perception whether good or bad.
It wasn’t until I learned this that social manipulation and maneuvering became infinitely more easier. You see, as black man, with a “resting mean face” coupled with a very large stature, I intimidated others often. I was accused of looking mean, mad, serious, upset, pissed off etc, though I could’ve been thinking about puppies & ice cream.
As Black Men, we need to learn ( as did I) to smile more. So much so, there had been an entire hashtag movement and subsequent website dedicated to it. We’re conditioned to be hard and thought simple acts like smiling could be considered “soft” or week.

http://blackmensmile.com

I love new interactions, it’s like a brand new chance to perfect my theatrical performances. Oftentimes I still have to remind myself to think of myself outside of myself.

What you saying?

TDK

I'm saying, most single women are looking for a reason to wanna bang. Give it to them. They make up their minds on whether you're fuckabe within seconds

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This is another insight into my fucked up psychology/philosophy.

I believe that middle class, attractive, western women, only want the brothers for fun/entertainment. They want someone who is going to provide narcissistic supply and make them feel good about themselves.

If you aren't providing that, negro, why the fuck would I want you?

Listen, brothers, this is what I truly believe, nor do I say it's a bad thing. it's just a thing.

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I’m with Dimebait. The reason i personally like Western European women is because they are infinitely easier to smash than their Black equivalent. It’s like playing the game on cheat mode.

I also concur with smiling and conveying a general pleasantness. I’m 6’3.5” 230lbs and no matter what I wear I still have an imposing stature. Take this stature and couple it with an outwardly pleasant demeanor and you’ve created a sexual juggernaut
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(01-20-2019 12:02 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:48 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:45 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Ironically, we have nearly complete control over most people’s immediate outwardly perception of us. From there, most humans use confirmation bias to justify that initial perception whether good or bad.
It wasn’t until I learned this that social manipulation and maneuvering became infinitely more easier. You see, as black man, with a “resting mean face” coupled with a very large stature, I intimidated others often. I was accused of looking mean, mad, serious, upset, pissed off etc, though I could’ve been thinking about puppies & ice cream.
As Black Men, we need to learn ( as did I) to smile more. So much so, there had been an entire hashtag movement and subsequent website dedicated to it. We’re conditioned to be hard and thought simple acts like smiling could be considered “soft” or week.

http://blackmensmile.com

I love new interactions, it’s like a brand new chance to perfect my theatrical performances. Oftentimes I still have to remind myself to think of myself outside of myself.

What you saying?

TDK

I'm saying, most single women are looking for a reason to wanna bang. Give it to them. They make up their minds on whether you're fuckabe within seconds


Fellas, thanks for the advice. I always receive feedback humbly.

Sadly, sometimes, I chose to ignore it.

TDK

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(01-20-2019 12:12 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 12:02 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:48 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:45 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Ironically, we have nearly complete control over most people’s immediate outwardly perception of us. From there, most humans use confirmation bias to justify that initial perception whether good or bad.
It wasn’t until I learned this that social manipulation and maneuvering became infinitely more easier. You see, as black man, with a “resting mean face” coupled with a very large stature, I intimidated others often. I was accused of looking mean, mad, serious, upset, pissed off etc, though I could’ve been thinking about puppies & ice cream.
As Black Men, we need to learn ( as did I) to smile more. So much so, there had been an entire hashtag movement and subsequent website dedicated to it. We’re conditioned to be hard and thought simple acts like smiling could be considered “soft” or week.

http://blackmensmile.com

I love new interactions, it’s like a brand new chance to perfect my theatrical performances. Oftentimes I still have to remind myself to think of myself outside of myself.

What you saying?

TDK

I'm saying, most single women are looking for a reason to wanna bang. Give it to them. They make up their minds on whether you're fuckabe within seconds


Fellas, thanks for the advice. I always receive feedback humbly.

Sadly, sometimes, I chose to ignore it.

TDK

You can't complain of not being able to figure something out if you are not willing to try new methods or look at things from a different perspective.This applies to everything in life not just figuring out women.

As saying goes, doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity. Try some of the suggestions mentioned above or break down your typical approach from constructive critism/advice/opinions.
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I'll be honest.

If the woman is white, I have no feeling for the woman lol. I just see the person as sex. I treat them well, very polite and I make them laugh. However, I have no protective instinct at all for them. Combined with the fact that I don't trust white women from Western Europe because....

1) Tremendous social power, which leads to conceit and possibly false rape accusation
2) The culture is very subversive, knife in back, cards played behind chest
3) Due to (2) very manipulative.

Brothers, I stand by my thoughts.

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I try not to allow things I cannot change to occupy real estate in my mind.

Imma tell you what’s been said since the days of the mASF bulletin boards, work on your inner-game bruh.

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(01-20-2019 01:45 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I try not to allow things I cannot change to occupy real estate in my mind.

Imma tell you what’s been said since the days of the mASF bulletin boards, work on your inner-game bruh.

Please, man, can you personal message me to tell me more.

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RE: Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
(01-20-2019 01:57 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 01:45 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I try not to allow things I cannot change to occupy real estate in my mind.

Imma tell you what’s been said since the days of the mASF bulletin boards, work on your inner-game bruh.

Please, man, can you personal message me to tell me more.

TDK

Your issue is that you are letting negative energy into your body and allowing it to destroy you. Do not let the negativity of the outside world into your life.

Stay positive. Look at everything from a positive perspective instead of a negative perspective. Instead of "What could go wrong" tell your mind "what could go right."

1) Tremendous social power, which leads to conceit and possibly false rape accusation
Positive Spin: Due to that tremendous social power, most White women never get to hang around Black Men. You are an open book to her. She has no idea who you are. Because of that, you can play any character role to her.

You are a new novelty to her. Vanilla Ice Cream might be the most delicious ice cream in the world. If you eat Vanilla every day, it becomes boring. Chocolate Ice Cream sounds awesome all of a sudden.


2) The culture is very subversive, knife in back, cards played behind chest
3) Due to (2) very manipulative.

Positive Spin:
Is the culture really manipulative or is it in my head? I can come off as a positive jovial Black Man and they will have no idea how to treat me. They never met anyone like me before in their life. They will throw out cards to figure who I am and I can judge whether they are trustworthy or not.


Most of your issues are in your head. If you keep telling yourself that Europe sucks, your brain will find things that are negative to confirm that perception. Confirmation bias. Instead, if you said Europe is awesome. You are brain will focus on the good things in life and ignore all the negativity.
01-20-2019 02:54 PM
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