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Couldn’t have said it better myself. Negativity is mental (and corralley financial) poverty.

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(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  The conclusion with Western European women is the same.

Basically, without these white chicks knowing what I do and knowing my personality, white chicks, the ones that are in my orbit, have extremely high walls. I still maintain they have the highest degree of prejudice than any other race.This has been my experience.

Wtf

I don't understand this. You're a doctor in a rich western country. Assuming you have a high income, your SMV should be on the upper end of the dating market. How are you not successfully leveraging your advantage?

(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Basically, I have to establish a higher degree of comfort, so as to get my foot in the door, so I can be friend-zoned.

C'mon man...intentionally friend zoning yourself is not game.

There is little to no taboo about interracial dating here. There are mixed couples everywhere. I personally know a bunch of black dudes who are married or in serious relationships with white women.
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'Western European women'...

Are we talking about Western Europe, or the whole of Europe in the context of being a Western continent?
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(01-20-2019 04:55 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  C'mon man...intentionally friend zoning yourself is not game.

There is little to no taboo about interracial dating here. There are mixed couple everywhere. I personally know a bunch of black dudes who are married or in serious relationships with white women.

Exactly. When I lived in the UK, I had to struggle to actually find sufficient black lizards. If I left London, the odds went down for me. My friends and I were getting white lizards by accident. One of my friends had one white lizard corner him in the pub and give him head practically by force. Banana

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(01-20-2019 05:00 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  'Western European women'...

Are we talking about Western Europe, or the whole of Europe in the context of being a Western continent?

I would imagine it being women from Western Europe as if he meant all of Europe, it would be better to say European women. To me, Western European women have a different flavour than Eastern European woman.

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Iso just dropped the jewel of the week and it’s only Sunday
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(01-20-2019 05:14 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 05:00 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  'Western European women'...

Are we talking about Western Europe, or the whole of Europe in the context of being a Western continent?

I would imagine it being women from Western Europe as if he meant all of Europe, it would be better to say European women. To me, Western European women have a different flavour than Eastern European woman.

(1) I meant western European but not eastern European.

(2) I'm outside of London, currently, so all I see is snow. I have needs but dating them just doesn't feel natural to me - at all. I guess it's that discomfort, which seeps into my "game." I just can't ignore the dynamics. I have always had a very strong, visceral, aversion to interracial unions. I do not know why. I do not hate those who do them.I respect them for it. However, it has never felt "natural."

(3) If it's done covertly, I do not mind, but the shocking thing is,white women want to be seen in public and treat me like a potential long term partner instead of a sexual toy.

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(01-20-2019 04:55 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  The conclusion with Western European women is the same.

Basically, without these white chicks knowing what I do and knowing my personality, white chicks, the ones that are in my orbit, have extremely high walls. I still maintain they have the highest degree of prejudice than any other race.This has been my experience.

Wtf

I don't understand this. You're a doctor in a rich western country. Assuming you have a high income, your SMV should be on the upper end of the dating market. How are you not successfully leveraging your advantage?

(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Basically, I have to establish a higher degree of comfort, so as to get my foot in the door, so I can be friend-zoned.

C'mon man...intentionally friend zoning yourself is not game.

There is little to no taboo about interracial dating here. There are mixed couples everywhere. I personally know a bunch of black dudes who are married or in serious relationships with white women.

And bro, I can think of at least 5 instances in the last two years where friends/acquaintances have made it clear they do not want me, or any brother, dating their women ( white and south asian). So bro, don't pretend that UK is all gravy and everyone is happy with brothers dating out of tribe.

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(01-21-2019 12:19 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 04:55 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  The conclusion with Western European women is the same.

Basically, without these white chicks knowing what I do and knowing my personality, white chicks, the ones that are in my orbit, have extremely high walls. I still maintain they have the highest degree of prejudice than any other race.This has been my experience.

Wtf

I don't understand this. You're a doctor in a rich western country. Assuming you have a high income, your SMV should be on the upper end of the dating market. How are you not successfully leveraging your advantage?

(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Basically, I have to establish a higher degree of comfort, so as to get my foot in the door, so I can be friend-zoned.

C'mon man...intentionally friend zoning yourself is not game.

There is little to no taboo about interracial dating here. There are mixed couples everywhere. I personally know a bunch of black dudes who are married or in serious relationships with white women.

And bro, I can think of at least 5 instances in the last two years where friends/acquaintances have made it clear they do not want me, or any brother, dating their women ( white and south asian). So bro, don't pretend that UK is all gravy and everyone is happy with brothers dating out of tribe.

TDK

Man you gotta learn to not Give A Fuck About their opinions... especially coming from White Guys! Just because them & Asian Women have White skin in common... it's still an interracial relationship as far I'm concerned! Put yourself first... and go after who you want to go above all!
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Bruh TDK youre a lost cause man or just trolling.

If you dont like white chicks then just dont date them. Generally they arent super interesting (result of white people having no culture). Also they cant dance.

Like I will cap on one if she is down or just really bad or has something going for her, but otherwise I'm always after sistas or some other exotic.

But if youre actually wanting to get after white chicks (considering you talk about them constantly) but cant cause you have Bad Game, then you need to just get good.

But instead of evaluating what you want and then working to make it happen you just post more complaints.
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(01-21-2019 04:46 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Bruh TDK youre a lost cause man or just trolling.

If you dont like white chicks then just dont date them. Generally they arent super interesting (result of white people having no culture). Also they cant dance.

Like I will cap on one if she is down or just really bad or has something going for her, but otherwise I'm always after sistas or some other exotic.

But if youre actually wanting to get after white chicks (considering you talk about them constantly) but cant cause you have Bad Game, then you need to just get good.

But instead of evaluating what you want and then working to make it happen you just post more complaints.

Fair enough. I’m not trolling.

I do not want white chicks but my environment is heavy in snow. Very very few blacks here and even fewer doing my type of work.

I do not want white chicks or south Asian but that’s all I have here.

I understand what you’re saying, so I’ll just have to suck it up and leave these women alone.

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(01-20-2019 04:55 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 11:12 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  The conclusion with Western European women is the same.

Basically, without these white chicks knowing what I do and knowing my personality, white chicks, the ones that are in my orbit, have extremely high walls. I still maintain they have the highest degree of prejudice than any other race.This has been my experience.

Wtf

I don't understand this. You're a doctor in a rich western country. Assuming you have a high income, your SMV should be on the upper end of the dating market.How are you not successfully leveraging your advantage?

He clearly has mental health issues.
Nothing we say here can help him.
He needs to seek a professional diagnosis.

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Then you gotta go somewhere you are happy.

Why stay in a place that's sucking your soul.

At least go spend some time and cap on some chicks you like on the weekend.

Or just get up and move to somewhere with your flavor of girls that can also sustain your lifestyle.
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Long time lurker, but felt like I had to chime in. All this negative talk about Western European women is no solution to your problem TDK. I’ve not encountered the problems you’ve seen to come up against in the time of living in Western Europe (3 diff countries).

Think @Iso mentions the drawbacks of having this negative mindframe.
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(01-21-2019 06:23 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  He clearly has mental health issues.
Nothing we say here can help him.
He needs to seek a professional diagnosis.

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(01-21-2019 01:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 06:23 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  He clearly has mental health issues.
Nothing we say here can help him.
He needs to seek a professional diagnosis.

Forrealz. We've expended countless time & energy addressing it.






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(01-20-2019 03:41 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So it comes back to being okay with losing her, because you have yourself.

There are a shit ton of broken guys in this forum, and in this community. A lot of them don't realize it. Chick hurt them bad, and they found their identity in being the pickup guy, or the MAGA guy, or the rich guy. Things stop working and they can't cope.

I agree.

The RVF-red pill mouth breather school of thought has the term “alpha-widower.” I think that lots of men on the forum (myself included) have a girlfriend/girl from the past that profoundly impacted them and have been chasing the “ghost” of this person in other women.

How it applies to me - i have been subsconciously comparing every girlfriend I’ve had to my second gf (GF #2 from hereon). We were together for half of my senior year of high school. Academically accomplished, good two parent household, Indian, feminine. Never smashed.

Quick sidebar - funny how my favorite GF is the one who was a virgin and I never took her virginity. RVF red pill mouth breathers would say I was wasting my time, but look at the lessons I’m still drawing from the experience many years later. Boy I’m happy I lost my virginity in high school.

To get back to my point, in January 2019 I think I have internalized that I consider her my “favorite GF” because she is the only GF I broke up with. I maintained frame. And from my earliest days on this forum and reading Roosh’s work, I had this sneaking suspicion that in the long run, for me, frame would be more important than game.

Why? Because it helps protect my ego.

I might consider myself a smart person, but it took me nearly a decade to figure out something that’s been right in my face, all because of my ego.
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I'll never understand guys that torture themselves pursuing girls they do not like. It's a newbie exp trap but guys are supposed to move past that. How do guys bother with chicks of (x) race if they aren't interested?

I haven't fucked a white girl in 4 years and I'm better off for it. No hate for white people in my heart, I just have 0 interest in some white chick. I've been on a date here or there, but I put in 0 effort and if they aren't gonna smash I next 'em. I've hard-nexted a few of them and they're hitting me back like "why don't you hang out with me anymore?" lol

The irony is that they're supposedly easier than Asian girls in Asia since they have limited options (white dudes in Asia prefer Asian women) but eh. I'll leave the 2nd-rate Expat white girls for the Black dudes who don't have the skills to figure out Asian culture and asian girls.

I'd rather put my time into girls that actually interest me. That includes mostly Black and Asian women. Sadly Asia doesn't have many qualified Black chicks, so my diet has been 99% Asian girls. Honestly, if it stayed that way for the next 40 years, that'd be fine.

I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.
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The issue is that a lot of guys on the forum didn't hit puberty until they are in their 30s and are halfway through their divorce.

Then their balls finally drop and they google "how to get girls" and meet all the other guys in similar situation.

That kind of guy is way more interested in his 15 years of FOMO than on how to actually get good or set up a better life for himself.
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(01-21-2019 05:17 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 04:46 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Bruh TDK youre a lost cause man or just trolling.

If you dont like white chicks then just dont date them. Generally they arent super interesting (result of white people having no culture). Also they cant dance.

Like I will cap on one if she is down or just really bad or has something going for her, but otherwise I'm always after sistas or some other exotic.

But if youre actually wanting to get after white chicks (considering you talk about them constantly) but cant cause you have Bad Game, then you need to just get good.

But instead of evaluating what you want and then working to make it happen you just post more complaints.

Fair enough. I’m not trolling.

I do not want white chicks but my environment is heavy in snow. Very very few blacks here and even fewer doing my type of work.

I do not want white chicks or south Asian but that’s all I have here.

I understand what you’re saying, so I’ll just have to suck it up and leave these women alone.

TDK

Following on from Iso's comment, TDK can you 100% say you are putting in the work?
We tend to fall into the trap of expecting things to fall into place with 0 or minimum effort, be it getting laid or progressing at work.
It's very easy to blame the girls you are talking to or make excuses rather than analysing what you could have done better.
I'm sure wherever you are the sistas are around but you have to actually go out to find them. I'll admit i also fall into the trap of letting my 9-5 take over life and expecting everything else to be done but you just have to push through and set firm boundaries.
Personally I wouldn't leave the other girls alone but rather use them as practice since you have nothing to lose. You don't want to be rusty when you actually do come across an attractive sista that you like
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(01-21-2019 01:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 06:23 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  He clearly has mental health issues.
Nothing we say here can help him.
He needs to seek a professional diagnosis.

If a thread OG says we need to move on, we need to move on.

Shifting gears, this past Thursday I got my #2 for 2019, #32 overall. Blonde 6 who moved from the midwest to NYC a few months ago for grad school. Type of girl who I would have probably salivated over at some club in the LES a few years ago, when I was less experienced. Now I just find her annoying. Dropped plans to hang out with her over the weekend, and kept it moving by hanging out with #1 of 2019, #31 overall).

The "Sex In The City" trope is real. This girl legit sent me a Linkedin request the following day. Called her out on it and she said I made her feel stupid.

She wants to come over to my place with "horrible logistics" tomorrow anyway.

Stop. Putting. White (and other). Women. On. Pedestals. Your mental health will thank you for it. Mine has gotten better because of it.
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(01-21-2019 08:10 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  If a thread OG says we need to move on, we need to move on.

I'm not saying cast the brother out into the cold.

But we can't "reason" him into thinking differently.

He's going to have to come to those conclusions on his own.

(01-21-2019 08:10 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Shifting gears, this past Thursday I got my #2 for 2019, #32 overall. Blonde 6 who moved from the midwest to NYC a few months ago for grad school. Type of girl who I would have probably salivated over at some club in the LES a few years ago, when I was less experienced. Now I just find her annoying. Dropped plans to hang out with her over the weekend, and kept it moving by hanging out with #1 of 2019, #31 overall).

The "Sex In The City" trope is real. This girl legit sent me a Linkedin request the following day. Called her out on it and she said I made her feel stupid.

She wants to come over to my place with "horrible logistics" tomorrow anyway.

Stop. Putting. White (and other). Women. On. Pedestals. Your mental health will thank you for it. Mine has gotten better because of it.

LinkedIn!! damn...

Putting the focus on yourself most of the time is ideal. Guys usually can't split.

Monk Mode vs Playboy of the Century...

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WIA, and the rest,

Valid points.

Until I'll break/push/shatter the limiting/false beliefs, the chastity belt of my mind will remain, here, there or wherever I am.

Thanks once again.

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(01-21-2019 05:17 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 04:46 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Bruh TDK youre a lost cause man or just trolling.

If you dont like white chicks then just dont date them. Generally they arent super interesting (result of white people having no culture). Also they cant dance.

Like I will cap on one if she is down or just really bad or has something going for her, but otherwise I'm always after sistas or some other exotic.

But if youre actually wanting to get after white chicks (considering you talk about them constantly) but cant cause you have Bad Game, then you need to just get good.

But instead of evaluating what you want and then working to make it happen you just post more complaints.

Fair enough. I’m not trolling.

I do not want white chicks but my environment is heavy in snow. Very very few blacks here and even fewer doing my type of work.

I do not want white chicks or south Asian but that’s all I have here.

I understand what you’re saying, so I’ll just have to suck it up and leave these women alone.

TDK

At least you recognize that you have some issues to clear up in your head! That's a simple... but extremely important step that you've achieved! I strongly recommend that you check out NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) From the few recent post I've read from you... you have conflicting frames going against each other... and they are making you miserable in the end.

For example when you say: You're not interested in White or Asian Chicks... but that's all you have access to... there's a block right there dude! If you truly desire feminine affection... and they're not what you're looking for... you could pack up your bags and leave after carefully defining what you're looking for... and where it is! But instead you've been beating your head against a wall trying to "make your situation work" when you have higher belief that "you don't want them but it's all you can get"! But if you didn't want them... would you truly be busting you A$$ that hard in trying to figure them out? We all know what that answer is Patna!

That right there my man is what we call A PROBLEM! Until you explicitly understand why you believe you have to plow through women you don't even desire... shit ain't gonna change! You have the same problem as a dude who's deep in Approach Anxiety... yet is carefully planning out his logistics in order to ensure a First Date Bang! You have some work to do my man so good luck! Until you figure this out... just be careful in not doing some dumb shit that could affect your health or your $$$
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(01-22-2019 12:47 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 05:17 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 04:46 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Bruh TDK youre a lost cause man or just trolling.

If you dont like white chicks then just dont date them. Generally they arent super interesting (result of white people having no culture). Also they cant dance.

Like I will cap on one if she is down or just really bad or has something going for her, but otherwise I'm always after sistas or some other exotic.

But if youre actually wanting to get after white chicks (considering you talk about them constantly) but cant cause you have Bad Game, then you need to just get good.

But instead of evaluating what you want and then working to make it happen you just post more complaints.

Fair enough. I’m not trolling.

I do not want white chicks but my environment is heavy in snow. Very very few blacks here and even fewer doing my type of work.

I do not want white chicks or south Asian but that’s all I have here.

I understand what you’re saying, so I’ll just have to suck it up and leave these women alone.

TDK

At least you recognize that you have some issues to clear up in your head! That's a simple... but extremely important step that you've achieved! I strongly recommend that you check out NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) From the few recent post I've read from you...you have conflicting frames going against each other... and they are making you miserable in the end.

For example when you say: You're not interested in White or Asian Chicks... but that's all you have access to... there's a block right there dude! If you truly desire feminine affection... and they're not what you're looking for... you could pack up your bags and leave after carefully defining what you're looking for... and where it is! But instead you've been beating your head against a wall trying to "make your situation work" when you have higher belief that "you don't want them but it's all you can get"! But if you didn't want them... would you truly be busting you A$$ that hard in trying to figure them out? We all know what that answer is Patna!

That right there my man is what we call A PROBLEM! Until you explicitly understand why you believe you have to plow through women you don't even desire... shit ain't gonna change! You have the same problem as a dude who's deep in Approach Anxiety... yet is carefully planning out his logistics in order to ensure a First Date Bang! You have some work to do my man so good luck! Until you figure this out... just be careful in not doing some dumb shit that could affect your health or your $$$

Bolded the parts that I relate to.

YOU SEE? THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS WHY I FUCK WITH THIS THREAD.
01-22-2019 01:21 AM
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