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@Tanapiko

I've met Luke. He's not white barber at the black barbershop status, but he's definitely white boy scenester. He is what he promotes, a fat guy that knows everyone and fucks chicks that are social climbers.

Him and Madison are probably the most well adjusted and normal out of that entire squad. He does seem slimy on video though. He's less slimy in real life. His main problem in terms of sales is his weight.

Max and Todd do a good job hiding their munchkin status, and Tyler makes his autism his best feature. Luke just needs to dress better and manage his visual.

But all their stuff is online someplace. His product is as okay as the rest of RSD products, which means it's better than every other video course. But that means little.

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@WIA thanks man, I have not really checked the RSD stuff to be honest. This dude must be a prime example of social circle game, that's something to respect!
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wrecker,

College is all about being social and meeting people so keep things as friendly all the way up till you iso a girl that you can tell is interested.

Like literally friend zone all the chicks then invite them to a party and you can take your pick.

University is basically huge extended social circle Game.
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(03-12-2019 03:58 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  wrecker,

College is all about being social and meeting people so keep things as friendly all the way up till you iso a girl that you can tell is interested.

Like literally friend zone all the chicks then invite them to a party and you can take your pick.

University is basically huge extended social circle Game.


Exactly right. Status is everything is college. That being said, it's still important to have game and awareness of the nature of women. It's just that straight-up cold approaching won't work too well in college since the bubble is small and word spreads quickly about one's reputation as a "creep".
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@tr1cky

My thoughts on RSD and Instagram game

"Instagram game is two things.

Linking from your dating site profile, or trading Instagram's with a chick that you can't spend proper time with. She sees your feed, likes some pics, comments, and later down the line you hook up. Instagram is just another way to build leads. It's not necessary to build leads, but young chicks might think you're weird if you don't have one. And if your game is weak, she will win that frame, and you'll feel bad.

You need - - photos that make you look physically attractive.
- photos that show that you have friends.
- photos of a life that a girl would want to be a part of.

The typical guy Instagram -
- pictures of his things.
- pictures of him being a dork.
- real shots of him and his friends, but they are not cool, and they are not doing cool shit.

The girl doesn't see a regular guy's page and want to be in his life.

The PUA Instagram looks like Dan Bilzerian lite. - cool things, objects, gadgets, but no humans in sight.
- cool backgrounds.
- exotic cars, yachts, luxury, travel shots.
- hot girls. Him with hot girls.
- the guy at clubs, in VIP.

It looks very try hard. But it is effective for a certain kind of girl. RSD Max and Michael Sartain have good versions of this Instagram game.

RSD Luke explains how it's done, but his Instagram doesn't look cool to me. He looks lonely and the girls don't look like friends.

Modern day Hugh Hefner is not the only way.

If you're an artist, cook, or make anything visual - that's just as good.

Photographers that have put up their photos, put up photos of themselves, and put up photos of them working - those are weirdly effective in conveying a cool life. Guys in a band work too.

You also need an unnatural number of followers. Most people don't have more than a few hundred real followers. There are tons of ways to get more followers by cheating or legitimately, but numbers matter.

There are lots of other tricks, but Instagram is a lead generator more than the primary way to meet girls. "

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I went to Rio as a first-timer for this past Carnaval. I have an elementary level of Portuguese, 300 - 500 words. It was way blacker than I had expected. The people had a very similar look to Dominicans but dressed differently.

I blended in well, maybe too well, such that I didn't have an exotic factor working for me. I got way less love than I do back in the states. It was disappointing.

Also, I ran into tons of black Americans. All of them were whoremongers. It can be this hard to find solid wingmen.
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There isn't really cold approach on a university campus for university students because it is always a "warm" approach (you go to the same school)

So there is no need to go around asking every girl where the pet store is.

You can play ball on the quad though and run in to chicks. You can always be like "oh you a freshman" you can pretty much always talk to the girls you don't know at a party without issue.
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I wanna switch gears back to BB’s question. How might one juggle working a long time with developing game? Even WIA has commented on how working long hours is immensely counter-productive to game.

If one is working 80-100 hour weeks, I think that anything above 2 simultaneous plates and 8 notches in a year is excessive.
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(03-12-2019 12:44 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  There isn't really cold approach on a university campus for university students because it is always a "warm" approach (you go to the same school)

So there is no need to go around asking every girl where the pet store is.

You can play ball on the quad though and run in to chicks. You can always be like "oh you a freshman" you can pretty much always talk to the girls you don't know at a party without issue.


I think you'd be surprised at how anti-social people are in the college scene nowadays. A university (at least in the US) is essentially a community of cliques, and all that matters is being in the right one (one that provides access to cute girls). This is why it can be difficult or even impossible to pull from a "college bar" with traditional night game for instance, even as a student.

How does one enter such cliques? Well, basically what you said, just meeting people at the right place and right time, doing stuff, having parties, etc. The girls will come naturally or at least it'll be a warm environment because of one's familiarity/status.

But just being a student at the same school certainly isn't enough. Just imagine if some Joe Schmo in the library just went up and tried to have a conversation with a HB7--without any kind of mutual connections. That conversation would not last very long (if one even started at all). Now if these two had both been living in the same dorm near each other, or had a mutual friend, then it would be a different story.
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(03-12-2019 11:59 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  I went to Rio as a first-timer for this past Carnaval. I have an elementary level of Portuguese, 300 - 500 words. It was way blacker than I had expected. The people had a very similar look to Dominicans but dressed differently.

I blended in well, maybe too well, such that I didn't have an exotic factor working for me. I got way less love than I do back in the states. It was disappointing.

Also, I ran into tons of black Americans. All of them were whoremongers. It can be this hard to find solid wingmen.

RN most of the slaves that came from Africa went to South America. I am guessing Brazil was one of the top destinations.
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/content/hi...nd-slavery

I have never been to Brazil. However the feedback lately is that Rio is not what it used to be.

I do want to visit Brazil. When I go I want to check out Bahia, Salvador, and Recife. I hear if you go places most tourist dont your experience will be better.

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When I was working brazy hours I would just get it in around my work schedule. It helped though that a lot of my professional work was centered around drinking/dinner with clients and coworkers.

So I'd always go for a number or two during happy hour. Would have chicks fall through whatever spot I was already taking a client to. Would post around at the bar or restaraunt after finishing biz and mack. Then I would just throw dates in for whatever day was less busy or as a coffee (first date screen 20-30 min tops that leaves her wanting more) lunch (good for young city professional chicks) or something like that.

After a while you get a solid team and some bench players and really any new girls are just extra to keep you sharp and fill out any gaps in whatever rotation you got.


On the college thing...

Getting in good circles should be the focus of your time at uni. Your classes are great and all but your network is what will take you further in life.

Cliques is what social circle is all about but with Game you can get in those easy enough and once a few are open to you the rest are cake.

For example a guy you are chill with in your freshman dorm may join a frat and then you go to one party and you meet a sorrority chick and swoop her and then she invites you to the open house brunch and whoops now half the house wants to smash you and you got an invite to come to some chick's house party next week. Rinse and repeat till you are known in the major circles on campus.
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@rangoffthepipe I completely disagree, I suppose a "Joe schmoe" couldn't make a cold approach work on campus (or anywhere) but no one here is average.

Just take a peek at giovannys approach thread. Not only is he approaching college chicks on campus he's doing it with the ultimate Joe schmoe status, 40 years old and not even a student lol.
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(03-11-2019 10:40 AM)tr1cky Wrote:  Having women in the background is the best way to show preselection online.

This picture http://www.instagram.com/p/Bn68cHjDpC4

Is way better than these two
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http://www.instagram.com/p/BmlwqsZAJzB

This one is okay
http://www.instagram.com/p/Bi8sJxvgZeg
If I posted that one I would tag it #friendsdate #bff #justfriends

This one is awesome
http://www.instagram.com/p/BoWpGsIlVOG

Good
http://www.instagram.com/p/BnZAAyPBG5X
http://www.instagram.com/p/BnOilOwhX5
http://www.instagram.com/p/BkP9Fd0l_dt

Here are some great examples of dos and donts when posting to IG. Thanks to Tr1cky for posting the first 7 pics.

#1 http://www.instagram.com/p/Bi8sJxvgZeg This pic seems a little try hard. The only thing that saves him is the body language of the girl on the right. She seems into him. The girl on left seems uninterested and is using him as a prop to lean on.

#2 http://www.instagram.com/p/BnMb7bgg__Z This is a good pic. He is the center of attention in the pic. His attention is on a computer screen. The two girls look curious as to what has his attention and are looking over his shoulder. This conveys focus, preselection and an abundance mind set.

#3 http://www.instagram.com/p/BmlwqsZAJzB I have no idea what this pic is supposed be conveying. I def would not post shit like this on social media.

#4 http://www.instagram.com/p/Bn68cHjDpC4 This is a good pic. He surrounded by women ,but something else has caught his attention. Once again conveying, preselection, an abundance mind set, and evoking genuine curiosity as to what is going on at this event.

#5 http://www.instagram.com/p/BnZAAyPBG5X This is an excellent pic, and on so many levels! The guy is in a situation where he is showing of his body, without it looking like he is trying to show it off. He is leaned back and relaxed, displaying a confident and non needy demeanor towards the girl who is clearly trying to get his attention. His smile is giving the girl encouragement but his body language is saying you got to try harder to win me over.

#6 http://www.instagram.com/p/BkP9Fd0l_dt Another excellent pic. Guy has attractive girl in the background while he does his own thing. Preselection, non-neediness while doing something interesting.

#7 http://www.instagram.com/p/BoWpGsIlVOG Ridiculouly good pic. Cool looking guys with expensive cars. Pic does not focus on the cars like they are trying to show off. The guys seem more interested in their convo then the girls. The girl to guy ration is in the guys favor. Everyone seems to be having fun.

The guy in the pics below is a promoter in Miami. Despite having a lot of women around. Most of his pics come off as needy or try hard. However he does have good individual pics.

#8 http://www.instagram.com/p/Bu4x2fVhsTw/

#9 http://www.instagram.com/cleon_jarrett/p...cj40s949rn

#10 http://www.instagram.com/cleon_jarrett/p...j4f3e3gtjb

#11 http://www.instagram.com/cleon_jarrett/p...j19agtuzzj

#12
http://www.instagram.com/cleon_jarrett/p...q8m5uzmnm9

#13
https://www.instagram.com/cleon_jarrett/...25a3idsoj8

#14
https://www.instagram.com/cleon_jarrett/...xhdg6k78j0

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Good breakdown ogunn, thanks. To be clear, those two pictures of luke with the girls in the background and the naked chicks I would never post. But his instagram isnt designed only for women, its designed for men (customers) too. So you have to keep that in mind when looking at any PUAs branded account.

#7 I love his caption too "ketchup chips are the best flavor" most guys would try and brag. #lambo #squadgoals #carsandhoes. All he cares about is those fucking chips.
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(03-13-2019 09:26 AM)tr1cky Wrote:  Good breakdown ogunn, thanks. To be clear, those two pictures of luke with the girls in the background and the naked chicks I would never post. But his instagram isnt designed only for women, its designed for men (customers) too. So you have to keep that in mind when looking at any PUAs branded account.

#7 I love his caption too "ketchup chips are the best flavor" most guys would try and brag. #lambo #squadgoals #carsandhoes. All he cares about is those fucking chips.

The ketchup chips pic is def my fav. Just some guys out having fun. True abundance mindset.

So thats RSD Luke? Well I am not impressed. Taking pics with naked women in what was clearly not a candid pose is corny to me.

He also looks like "Fat Jesus" from the hangover.

I am not saying you have to be diesel or ripped but dam brah can Luke put the ham sandwiches down once and a while and go for a run?

Def not someone I want to model.

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The funny thing is, Luke is the "expert". He's the one pushing lifestyle design.

If I had admin access to Instagram, I'd segregate the chicks I think are hot, and then see which male profiles/pics they click on and leave messages.

My fact finding mission for hacking Instagram was looking at who do hot girls follow.

Spoiler alert, mostly female celebs and other girls.

I have some other ideas on creating a date ready social media profile that I need to analyze.

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(03-13-2019 08:06 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  RN most of the slaves that came from Africa went to South America. I am guessing Brazil was one of the top destinations.
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/content/hi...nd-slavery

I have never been to Brazil. However the feedback lately is that Rio is not what it used to be.

I do want to visit Brazil. When I go I want to check out Bahia, Salvador, and Recife. I hear if you go places most tourist dont your experience will be better.

Brazil has the second blackest nation in the world. It's second only to Nigeria. No other African country has as many blacks as Brazil. That was a surprise to even myself. Apparently, there are areas in Brazil where Yoruba is still spoken...

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I'm not a fan of those IG pages that were posted, most of them seem too contrived.

Luke looks like an overweight white guy with bad skin, all the power to him if he can pull those quality girls.

The promoter is a decent looking guy, I wouldn't be posing with some of those girls. I think it's better to show a mysterious side, we've all seen Bilzeran do that gimmick. Why bother copying it?

I know guys who rent nice cars on weekends and Airbnb spots to party. I guess it's cheaper than owning a Lamborghini.

Looking at my IG, I guess you would think I love to travel and have no friends. A few girls I talk too think I have a wife that I'm hiding, can't win it seems.

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(03-12-2019 11:59 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  I went to Rio as a first-timer for this past Carnaval. I have an elementary level of Portuguese, 300 - 500 words. It was way blacker than I had expected. The people had a very similar look to Dominicans but dressed differently.

I blended in well, maybe too well, such that I didn't have an exotic factor working for me. I got way less love than I do back in the states. It was disappointing.

Also, I ran into tons of black Americans. All of them were whoremongers. It can be this hard to find solid wingmen.

Thanks for this honest report.
I'm not suprised it didn't get any likes.

The online Black American hype for Brazil is insane and yes 90% are doing P4P. I enjoyed my time in Brazil for the culture, I experienced the Carnaval in Salvador, Recife and Rio. But yes, most brothas get more love in the States. I've even pulled better Brazilians in the USA than I did in Brazil.

Brazil held on to their slaves a whole generation longer than the US did. Something to think about..

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Met a Colombian girl at the gym but I didn’t pull the trigger. Exchanged pleasantries, she asked me how I learned Spanish. Then we exchanged names and I excused myself from the conversation.

In the locker room before showering, I was beating myself up for not asking for the number. I know what I should have done because I’ve pulled girls that showed interest in my ability to speak spanish, but my mind just blanked this time.

Think I’m getting rusty. And I was nervous, never had a successful pull from the gym.

Oh well. At least I’ll have this memory of failing to act...and I’ll know what to do next time. There’s always another girl out there.

That being said, it was a warm interaction and if I happen to see her again, I’ll go for it. Not pining for one chick, but she seemed interested and I know she’ll want to go salsa dancing if I ask her!
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A gym is like loose social circle so you will see her again and chit chat two or three times before going for her number to "hang out"
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I swear, I will get a nightgame pull in NYC/a major American city before I die. Online has stunted me.


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(03-11-2019 01:16 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Tanapiko

I've met Luke. He's not white barber at the black barbershop status, but he's definitely white boy scenester. He is what he promotes, a fat guy that knows everyone and fucks chicks that are social climbers.

Him and Madison are probably the most well adjusted and normal out of that entire squad. He does seem slimy on video though. He's less slimy in real life. His main problem in terms of sales is his weight.

Max and Todd do a good job hiding their munchkin status, and Tyler makes his autism his best feature. Luke just needs to dress better and manage his visual.

But all their stuff is online someplace. His product is as okay as the rest of RSD products, which means it's better than every other video course. But that means little.

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Are there any game guys you feel like is putting out great content in 2019?

Tim from Viking Lifestyle has a solid game YouTube channel. He's a young Black guy in NYC running Day Game and Club game. He has infields up on his page. His game is pretty solid and fundamental. Lots of practical actionable advice from him. No mental masturbation or 500+ pages of theory from him. Yall should check him out.
03-16-2019 11:13 AM
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RE: Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
(03-16-2019 05:18 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  I swear, I will get a nightgame pull in NYC/a major American city before I die. Online has stunted me.


WIA, let me know how much I have to cash app you to get this book out.

I've got more than enough written material for 5 books at this point.

I'm editing now - and the problems
- needing to explain more
- connecting the dots

The first part is time based.

How to "put it all together" - that's the actually tough part.

WIA

http://www.westindianarchie.com/
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RE: Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
Mace if youre serious about night game the only thing you need to read is book of yareally. Wayback machine yareallyarchive.com theres also a pdf book you can download.

If you havent read all his writings atleast 3 times I dont see how you could say you are interested in learning game. **not directed at you, just in general**

Edit: yareally isnt the only thing you should read but start with that and go from there. It takes about a month to get thru the whole archive.
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