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(02-02-2015 08:36 PM)Moma Wrote:  Traveller, I agree that social circle is very big. On each instance that I had a chance to close my Asians, it was the intervention of social circle that fcuked up the base for me. I see them akin to Somalians. The only way to pull them is to seperate them from the herd...

One of my Indian-American relatives who married a black American guy was introduced to him by a female Indian friend of hers.
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I'm listening to the first podcast right now. You guys are doing a service to black guys in the states.

The obvious answer is to travel. Anyone who has actually read the numerous posts in any of the black guys threads can discern this. I'm looking to go to EE myself, but those places are little expensive for a college student. I've already used up my school sponsored trips to go to other places. I speak Spanish, too, but my experiences in both Ecuador and Argentina were not particularly great in terms of notches due to poor logistics (I lived with host families). Going back to South America is probably my best bet, just gotta get over the mental hurdle of two not-so-fun experiences.

There seems to be a some distaste for America, but I say approach more and you'll find a woman. Black guys need to learn how to deal with rejection and not be little pussies.

I go to an Ivy League school, and my experiences have mirrored a lot of what Excelsior has said in the past. After going through numerous unsatisfactory hookups with unattractive girls, I'm currently seeing an attractive woman. Swallows my kids and cooks for me regularly. Calls me her king. Hell, she even flew out to see during one of my study abroad semesters. She's a keeper for the moment. Yes, she's white.

I would not have ever met this girl had I not decided to have some balls and go in for the kill in the first place. The confidence it takes to do that was developed by repeatedly getting rejected by other women, only to succeed every now and then. But hey...failure is better than inaction. If approaching and learning from your shortcomings works at an Ivy League school, then it will work anywhere else in the world! Imagine going Iceland and just killing it over there. Or even Mexico. Man, I can't wait to get some cash.


Currently working on building up my bank roll doe. I definitely see myself living frugally in some rural town then blowing all my cash on great house music clubs in the UK and Germany. Fuck American clubs and their Iggy Azalea and 2Chainz obsession...
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(02-02-2015 08:31 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-02-2015 08:21 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Moma I heard you were English but your voice Ohshit
Glad to hear another podcast has popped up to turn my attention too. Hopefully you'll expand your topics out to more general game/travel/other relevant things and have some more forum members as guests.

Hzuwhere, post what you want to be discussed. We are just flowing right now and trying to address a niche. You are welcome to call in and open up a line of discussion, let no stone be left unturned!

Partially due to Kai's post and slightly due to the fact that I wrote a datasheet on social circle. Would be great to hear a podcast on what you guys think about social circle and open up some thoughts. I kind of feel it's a bit of an unexplored bastion of knowledge since it is in essence 75% networking/making friends but at the same time extremely influential in improving quality of life for a player and acquiring more women but a lot of people don't talk about it just mention it in passing.

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(02-02-2015 10:43 PM)BasketBounce Wrote:  I'm listening to the first podcast right now. You guys are doing a service to black guys in the states.

The obvious answer is to travel. Anyone who has actually read the numerous posts in any of the black guys threads can discern this. I'm looking to go to EE myself, but those places are little expensive for a college student. I've already used up my school sponsored trips to go to other places. I speak Spanish, too, but my experiences in both Ecuador and Argentina were not particularly great in terms of notches due to poor logistics (I lived with host families). Going back to South America is probably my best bet, just gotta get over the mental hurdle of two not-so-fun experiences.

There seems to be a some distaste for America, but I say approach more and you'll find a woman. Black guys need to learn how to deal with rejection and not be little pussies.

I go to an Ivy League school, and my experiences have mirrored a lot of what Excelsior has said in the past. After going through numerous unsatisfactory hookups with unattractive girls, I'm currently seeing an attractive woman. Swallows my kids and cooks for me regularly. Calls me her king. Hell, she even flew out to see during one of my study abroad semesters. She's a keeper for the moment. Yes, she's white.

I would not have ever met this girl had I not decided to have some balls and go in for the kill in the first place. The confidence it takes to do that was developed by repeatedly getting rejected by other women, only to succeed every now and then. But hey...failure is better than inaction. If approaching and learning from your shortcomings works at an Ivy League school, then it will work anywhere else in the world! Imagine going Iceland and just killing it over there. Or even Mexico. Man, I can't wait to get some cash.


Currently working on building up my bank roll doe. I definitely see myself living frugally in some rural town then blowing all my cash on great house music clubs in the UK and Germany. Fuck American clubs and their Iggy Azalea and 2Chainz obsession...

Wait until you finish college and join the rest of the real world. Playing house with college gals that are naive as fuck is one thing. Once you are alumni, they are not so eager to give you the same play.

But for now enjoy the college years. Nothing can replace them.

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Clubs in the UK and Germany play a lot of the same music they play here in America, they are often just behind and will play then weeks after they have been heard in America.

Just like Atlanta gets so much of the countries music first.

Europe has more electronic music though

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(02-02-2015 10:43 PM)BasketBounce Wrote:  There seems to be a some distaste for America, but I say approach more and you'll find a woman. Black guys need to learn how to deal with rejection and not be little pussies.

I go to an Ivy League school, and my experiences have mirrored a lot of what Excelsior has said in the past.

I think they'll be a few guys who will use what is being said here as an excuse not to approach. That will only make the problem worse for these guys.








Side note: After college many of those IVY league women move to Washington DC. Hint...hint.
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Great job on the second podcast. The vibe is really cool, like listening to a couple of older cousins kick it at a family bbq to the young guys. This has definitely been the motivation I've needed to get a passport and make some trips abroad. I'm looking at about 10 days in September and trying to decide between Brazil and Netherlands/Germany.

Moma, you cracked me up talking about the bottom situation here in the south. It's a hell of a lot better than the one up north. Can't wait until the weather warms up here in the ATL over the next 4-6 weeks, so I can see who has been keeping it tight over the winter.

Keep up the great work, gentlemen.
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Great podcast! I'm not black but as an asian with dark skin and a shaved head I think there is some relevance and good info for me in the podcasts and in this thread.

@Moma - You were the first RVF cat that I ever met in person. Glad to hear your voice. I remember that we went to that predominately black party at the DL in nyc, where Janelle Monae did that impromptu set.

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(02-03-2015 07:36 PM)Clint Barton Wrote:  Great podcast! I'm not black but as a Filipino with dark skin and a shaved head I think there is some relevance and good info for me in the podcasts and in this thread.

@Moma - You were the first RVF cat that I ever met in person. Glad to hear your voice. I remember that we went to that predominately black party at the DL in nyc, where Janelle Monae did that impromptu set.

Yes, Clint, I cannot forget the hospitality you and your crew provided for me in NYC. It was excellent. I'm glad you enjoy the podcast and if you have views or experiences you want to share, you are welcome to call in.

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(02-02-2015 10:43 PM)BasketBounce Wrote:  There seems to be a some distaste for America, but I say approach more and you'll find a woman. Black guys need to learn how to deal with rejection and not be little pussies.

LOL youngsta.

I can't speak for everyone, but a lot of us come to our conclusions about women raised in America after having plenty of *success* with them.

When the honeymoon is done with the snow bunny, you're going to see who she truly is. Same would happen if you dated a foreign chick in a foreign land.

Does she dress sexy even to go to the grocery store?

American chicks don't.
Foreign Chicks do.

But is that something you want? A sexy little chick grabbing cucumbers in the produce department?

Do you want a woman who cooks EVERY meal EVERY day?

This will rarely happen with an American chick
But this will happen a lot with foreign chicks.

Usually the woman that cooks everyday, doesn't want you eating out, and she is certainly gonna have opinions about wherever you want to go.

Do you really want a chick that purposefully controls what you eat?

When you start to explore the "rainbow" you really start to deal the reality of your ideals.

A lot of American guys want a housewife, until they get one.

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RudeBwoy, Moma great podcast. It's cool to hear your experiences...I agree traveling not only makes you a better man and really helps improve your game...

As far as online game goes, the real challenge is that most dating sites do a poor job at attracting quality girls consistently.

One of the best things America has done for brothers is market Hip hop and RnB all around the world, so as long as guys have the right attitude and polish their skills, they can be successful anywhere.
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Great podcast. It's nice to hear this discussion from a specific angle. Wish I had discovered this site 10-15 years ago.

And I hate to admit it, but you guys are absolutely right about American Blacks. We are prisoners of our own minds.
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(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  RudeBwoy, Moma great podcast. It's cool to hear your experiences...I agree traveling not only makes you a better man and really helps improve your game...

As far as online game goes, the real challenge is that most dating sites do a poor job at attracting quality girls consistently.

One of the best things America has done for brothers is market Hip hop and RnB all around the world, so as long as guys have the right attitude and polish their skills, they can be successful anywhere.

I"m not too sure about this. I feel the marketing of hip-hop and r&b to a global audience has done me as much harm overseas as it has good. Sure its positive that there is a built in fan base that consumes that music in many countries but there are also the stereotypical images and attitudes about our people that come along with it. People in countries that barely understand english running around saying nigga and expecting brothas to pop bottles, tap dance or sing for them is also a direct result of this marketing.

Obama's presidency however has done nothing but help brothas overseas. I lost count of how many times foreigners have brought up Obama to me with a smile on their face.
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Excited for the TravelerKai episode.

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Just finished listening to this great podcast earlier today and I found it very interesting. Well done guys! Looking forward to the one with Kai! You guys should definitely male this a regular thing as we can not only learn something new but also hear a different perspective.

Travelling and foreign women is most definitely the way to go!

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I finally started listening to this.

First impression: Moma sounds EXACTLY how I expected him. I mean exactly.

Second impression: To keep it real, I'm playing this sound every few minutes:




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(02-12-2015 10:58 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  
(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  RudeBwoy, Moma great podcast. It's cool to hear your experiences...I agree traveling not only makes you a better man and really helps improve your game...

As far as online game goes, the real challenge is that most dating sites do a poor job at attracting quality girls consistently.

One of the best things America has done for brothers is market Hip hop and RnB all around the world, so as long as guys have the right attitude and polish their skills, they can be successful anywhere.

I"m not too sure about this. I feel the marketing of hip-hop and r&b to a global audience has done me as much harm overseas as it has good. Sure its positive that there is a built in fan base that consumes that music in many countries but there are also the stereotypical images and attitudes about our people that come along with it. People in countries that barely understand english running around saying nigga and expecting brothas to pop bottles, tap dance or sing for them is also a direct result of this marketing.

Obama's presidency however has done nothing but help brothas overseas. I lost count of how many times foreigners have brought up Obama to me with a smile on their face.

That's true to some degree...it can be a double edged sword. However I don't think there's ever been a global, multi-billion dollar media campaign that tells girls that black men are sexually desirable and cool. It's brilliant.

That's why as a Brother you have to take advantage of the opportunity and meet the girls who like their chocolate.
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For thsoe wondering:

Lizard:

A SLUT.
All of the following are examples of lizards "lizzads"

That bitch tounges around like a lizard.
That pussys been beat so many times its rough like lizard skin.
Small quick little rave slut.

Moma probably also got it from Leisure Suit Larry.

so basically a ho. Called that because she's using her tongue so much its like she's a lizard.

Wasn't gonna say anything, but since Moma didn't deliver on the explanation from episode one, I'd figure I'd do it now.

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(02-02-2015 08:32 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I don't think they are as hard as they should be. It's those parents... that and some of them are academic machines. I have had Indian male friends pissed off because their gal is a workaholic.

This is the big one.

The Indian woman's dislike for black men has always perplexed me. There are Indian girls who will jump into bed with a black dude, of course, but they're strongly in the minority. Moreover, they tend to be the Indian equivalent to "snow bunnies"; i.e they aren't the classiest ladies around, if you catch my drift. I've known one hot Indian girl who fucked with black guys, but she was ratchet to the extreme. Literally every Indian girl I've ever hooked up with has expressed a strong distaste for black dudes, even if she has several black friends.

Simultaneously, however, these girls will hook up with South Indian dudes who are considerably darker than many African Americans. My good friend is a South Indian Keralite who's darker than Wesley Snipes and has very African features, to the point where real black people mistake him for one of them. Indian women absolutely love him. Similarly, I myself am 6'2 and extremely dark, and I do better with my fellow Indians than with any other ethnicity.
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(02-14-2015 03:59 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  For thsoe wondering:

Lizard:

A SLUT.
All of the following are examples of lizards "lizzads"

That bitch tounges around like a lizard.
That pussys been beat so many times its rough like lizard skin.
Small quick little rave slut.

Moma probably also got it from Leisure Suit Larry.

so basically a ho. Called that because she's using her tongue so much its like she's a lizard.

Wasn't gonna say anything, but since Moma didn't deliver on the explanation from episode one, I'd figure I'd do it now.

I didn't really use it with the intent of such vitriol as behind the word 'slut'. I'm a writer and I love to play with words. I figured a different term to name them would be appropriate since they are our play things and not to be taken that seriously (in the West). I heard the term somewhere and used it and it stuck with the forum.

P.S. Never heard of Leisure Suit Larry in my days.

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(02-12-2015 10:58 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  
(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  RudeBwoy, Moma great podcast. It's cool to hear your experiences...I agree traveling not only makes you a better man and really helps improve your game...

As far as online game goes, the real challenge is that most dating sites do a poor job at attracting quality girls consistently.

One of the best things America has done for brothers is market Hip hop and RnB all around the world, so as long as guys have the right attitude and polish their skills, they can be successful anywhere.

I"m not too sure about this. I feel the marketing of hip-hop and r&b to a global audience has done me as much harm overseas as it has good. Sure its positive that there is a built in fan base that consumes that music in many countries but there are also the stereotypical images and attitudes about our people that come along with it. People in countries that barely understand english running around saying nigga and expecting brothas to pop bottles, tap dance or sing for them is also a direct result of this marketing.

This reminds me of a funny incident in Bangkok where a teenage boy walked up to me and kept saying, "Yo Yo Yo, man, wussup!" I didn't take any offense, thought it was hilarious, especially given that I don't even look or dress hiphop in the least. But it certainly shows the media's power to shape people's idea of what black Americans are like.

(02-14-2015 06:05 PM)Agastya Wrote:  
(02-02-2015 08:32 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I don't think they are as hard as they should be. It's those parents... that and some of them are academic machines. I have had Indian male friends pissed off because their gal is a workaholic.

This is the big one.

The Indian woman's dislike for black men has always perplexed me. There are Indian girls who will jump into bed with a black dude, of course, but they're strongly in the minority. Moreover, they tend to be the Indian equivalent to "snow bunnies"; i.e they aren't the classiest ladies around, if you catch my drift. I've known one hot Indian girl who fucked with black guys, but she was ratchet to the extreme. Literally every Indian girl I've ever hooked up with has expressed a strong distaste for black dudes, even if she has several black friends.

Simultaneously, however, these girls will hook up with South Indian dudes who are considerably darker than many African Americans. My good friend is a South Indian Keralite who's darker than Wesley Snipes and has very African features, to the point where real black people mistake him for one of them. Indian women absolutely love him. Similarly, I myself am 6'2 and extremely dark, and I do better with my fellow Indians than with any other ethnicity.

From everything I've heard, India does not think fondly of people of African descent. I saw a documentary on the small population of black people there. I mean true black people, not just dark Indians, they were actually brought there as slaves from Africa. They were relegated to the lowest rung of society. I've met many Indians dudes in the West who seemed to have no open hostility toward black dudes. I'm not generally attracted to Indian women so I have no experience trying to game any of them. But I imagine their families would flip if they were dating a black dude.
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speakeasy, you should have rode with it. I have failed to do so in the past and it's cost me links and access.

When I went clubbing in Ottawa with my friend, the bouncers thought we were G's from either the States or Toronto and they allowed us access. Lizards also seemed awed cos Ottawa cats are perceived as corny (their words).

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RE: Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
(02-16-2015 01:57 PM)Moma Wrote:  speakeasy, you should have rode with it. I have failed to do so in the past and it's cost me links and access.

Yeah, that might have been funny. But seriously man, I'm not good at impersonating a stereotypical black American! Btw, I'm just getting around to listening to the podcasts, I'm about 70% through the first one. I try to put them on only at the gym so I have something interesting to listen to while I'm working out.

I hope you guys can hunt down international swagger. I'd love to hear that dude's perspective. I talk to Hencredible regularly, he's got a lot of insights and he's very articulate and well spoken. You guys should reach out to him.
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RE: Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
(02-16-2015 01:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 10:58 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  
(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  RudeBwoy, Moma great podcast. It's cool to hear your experiences...I agree traveling not only makes you a better man and really helps improve your game...

As far as online game goes, the real challenge is that most dating sites do a poor job at attracting quality girls consistently.

One of the best things America has done for brothers is market Hip hop and RnB all around the world, so as long as guys have the right attitude and polish their skills, they can be successful anywhere.

I"m not too sure about this. I feel the marketing of hip-hop and r&b to a global audience has done me as much harm overseas as it has good. Sure its positive that there is a built in fan base that consumes that music in many countries but there are also the stereotypical images and attitudes about our people that come along with it. People in countries that barely understand english running around saying nigga and expecting brothas to pop bottles, tap dance or sing for them is also a direct result of this marketing.

This reminds me of a funny incident in Bangkok where a teenage boy walked up to me and kept saying, "Yo Yo Yo, man, wussup!" I didn't take any offense, thought it was hilarious, especially given that I don't even look or dress hiphop in the least. But it certainly shows the media's power to shape people's idea of what black Americans are like.

(02-14-2015 06:05 PM)Agastya Wrote:  
(02-02-2015 08:32 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I don't think they are as hard as they should be. It's those parents... that and some of them are academic machines. I have had Indian male friends pissed off because their gal is a workaholic.

This is the big one.

The Indian woman's dislike for black men has always perplexed me. There are Indian girls who will jump into bed with a black dude, of course, but they're strongly in the minority. Moreover, they tend to be the Indian equivalent to "snow bunnies"; i.e they aren't the classiest ladies around, if you catch my drift. I've known one hot Indian girl who fucked with black guys, but she was ratchet to the extreme. Literally every Indian girl I've ever hooked up with has expressed a strong distaste for black dudes, even if she has several black friends.

Simultaneously, however, these girls will hook up with South Indian dudes who are considerably darker than many African Americans. My good friend is a South Indian Keralite who's darker than Wesley Snipes and has very African features, to the point where real black people mistake him for one of them. Indian women absolutely love him. Similarly, I myself am 6'2 and extremely dark, and I do better with my fellow Indians than with any other ethnicity.

From everything I've heard, India does not think fondly of people of African descent. I saw a documentary on the small population of black people there. I mean true black people, not just dark Indians, they were actually brought there as slaves from Africa. They were relegated to the lowest rung of society. I've met many Indians dudes in the West who seemed to have no open hostility toward black dudes. I'm not generally attracted to Indian women so I have no experience trying to game any of them. But I imagine their families would flip if they were dating a black dude.

When I was in Afghanistan we had these local kids at the gate that would run to the town square to grab stuff for us. It was their hustle. They called every Black person Barak Obama, and even some of the darker Latinos. It was hilarious. My first day there I walk up to gate and they all say "wassup Barak Obama"?

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