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No I'm in Alberta, i didn't know Washington was so great. I would think like Ohio or Penn or Georgia or something would be better.

With the bases loaded all we needs a hit boy ima still swing for the fences, I guess you tend to over do it, when you come up under-privileged
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(12-07-2018 10:33 PM)newandimproved Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 09:38 PM)wrecker132 Wrote:  
(12-06-2018 04:08 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  -Black Caesar

The getting entrance to clubs problem is solveable once you actually live here. You HAVE to work a bit hard to make connections but once thats done its done and youll have access to places but its still not EASY to do and takes a level of persistence and drive to make it. All that bullshit just to get inside a nightclub to TRY and game girls. Its ridiculous.

I am very often the 1 of 3 black dudes in a spot. Still doesn't make gaming girls in there easier.

I did have game issues in the past but I worked all the kinks in that out and made progress and got at better girls and got laid... but those higher level German girls are brutal. Its not that its forbidden here. I think from the girl's side its just looked down upon and alot of them don't consider us as a viable option.

I sincerely believe its an SMV or "looks" problem at this point.

- Kadenz

THEY REALLY CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. I wouldnt come on here lying it about it. I couldnt believe it myself when I got it but it is what it is. I thought that the SIMPLE solution was to distinguish myself in other ways and viola! Girls would be after me.

I tried:

-Not dressing like the other black guys: Suits.. more preppy clothes. Not looking like an imitation of Future or whatever hot rapper at the time. Tried the successful Black business man approach. NOPE... Didn't fucking work well... Still got laid and dates but lower level SMV girls.

- Social Circle Game: Hanging out with a bunch of rich white German guys and going to their hotel, house and bottle service parties...... NOPE doesnt work. You are the cool token black guy that the girls dont really want to fuck with. I got laid again but in the end you end up last pick in the draft. White boys first draft pick.

-Party host game... Bottle service game... I tried it all.

After all that I realized trying to stand out what was fucking me up in the first place. Black men here are generally a niche thing. I decided to try and go to the top of the "black niche" market. So I changed up my style to a street look (See TIGHA clothing for what I am talking about) and changed up my game strategy (much harder, more serious and more aggressive) to match the look for congruence and then I moved forward with women much better. Turns out that women here that are interested in black guys want the stereotype and the further you deviate from this, the worst time you will have with them. I joke with other black guys and say they want a 21 savage. Honestly its probably true.

So there is a social, Instagram celebrity or whatever the fuck you want to call it who IS with a black guy here. Shes not a 8+ in my opinion (looks wise) but her value is def 8+ and alot of girls follow her and follow her example (buy her fashion bullshit and all that). She has 1.5 million followers on Instagram. Now you are saying OK it is possible to get one of those chicks. So what kind of black guy do you have to be to reach 8+ consistently in Germany and of course ill show you.

First here is her gram and a picture of her:

https://www.instagram.com/sarah.harrison.official/

[Image: ZYYKfk8m.jpg]

and him

https://www.instagram.com/dominic.harrison.official/

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THAT...fellas is the black man that German girls want. The more you deviate from this, the more issues you will have getting quality around here. And still this place is so fucked that I am not 100% sure he could pull 8+ on a consistent basis.

Enough of my ranting about Germany but Coverdoc's post really got me riled up to really give the truth with details about what goes on around here.

As you were gentlemen.

Alot more info like this when I decide to drop a proper sheet. I am hesitant to do one while I still live here in fear of it going viral and me getting hassled to be honest. I gotta still live here... For now.

Everything you said about Germany is applicable in Manhattan NYC, and really across the Eastern Seaboard from Maine down to Mass. So I can understand your frustration completely.

NYC really? I run my intellectual, hipster game great there. I'm mostly based in L.A. and do fine but in Manhattan I do even better. There's no better place for me in the states, IMO, online and when it comes to nightgame. My most recent NYC ex, a solid 8 white-Asian girl, turned heads both in Manhattan and out in Cali. My other boy, late 20s in finance lives on the UWS, also cleans up in NYC. He's a bit more "mainstream" than me, but still, definitely not a stereotype.

In my experience, it's the smaller coastal towns where non-stereotypical black guys don't do as well. For instance, any beach city in Southern California, (minus Santa Monica/Venice) including San Diego. Jersey Shore would be another.

I'm definitely intellectual, but not a hipster, nor would I ever want to be defined as one. I defintely dress well, keep some Jordans on my feet lol, of course for club/bars I have nice Chelsea/Red Wing Boots. And FWIW, I do extremely well in California haha. I'm starting to think it's more a values thing on the differing coasts. I do quite fine in small areas of the West as well. IDK, i have finals to be studying for anyways lmao.

I only say this to note - Game and the perception of game is different depending on the region/locale within the world, and definitely within the US for a black person - I've lived nearly everywhere (Midwest, South, Southwest, West Coast, & Northeast). I definitely think the framework and confidence one has are important. But I've noticed in my 1.5 years in NYC, there is a certain type of black man that does well here considering interracial dating, and it's definitely more the Van Jones type than the Marc Lamont Hill. FWIW, the non black girls in AZ aren't really in tune with hipster or black dudes that are of a muscular build,/seen as a typical man's man. Different expectations and demands everywhere. We're not a monolith and this just needs to be noted. I for one think the differing viewpoints are pretty informative and I'm definitely going to be utilizing the strategies in here hard next semester. Now i have some finals to take, so I'm gonna chill out.
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(Yesterday 09:48 AM)tr1cky Wrote:  Anyone who says its hard for black guys to fuck white women anywhere in the US is delusional.

/topic

Saw this on a chicks twitter, "tried to start a fight bc i’m bored but instead of letting me this guy completely de-escalated the situation and we had a healthy conversation about our feelings? I feel like he blue balled my crazy and i’m not happy"

For women, Emotional stimulation = sex.

Lol, you've clearly never lived in the backwoods of Mississippi. Yes - you can get with 4-5s, but 8-10s, lol not happening unless you've got cash or you got drafted to the NLF/MLB in those parts. Just what is it.
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(Today 01:22 AM)wrecker132 Wrote:  I only say this to note - Game and the perception of game is different depending on the region/locale within the world, and definitely within the US for a black person - I've lived nearly everywhere (Midwest, South, Southwest, West Coast, & Northeast). I definitely think the framework and confidence one has are important. But I've noticed in my 1.5 years in NYC, there is a certain type of black man that does well here considering interracial dating, and it's definitely more the Van Jones type than the Marc Lamont Hill. FWIW, the non black girls in AZ aren't really in tune with hipster or black dudes that are of a muscular build,/seen as a typical man's man. Different expectations and demands everywhere. We're not a monolith and this just needs to be noted. I for one think the differing viewpoints are pretty informative and I'm definitely going to be utilizing the strategies in here hard next semester. Now i have some finals to take, so I'm gonna chill out.

There is only game we are talking about, that is getting women. Yes, the game changes depending where you go, but a guy that has game knows how to change it for that place or situation.

I learnt the hard way that American style game doesn't work on women in Europe. This you learn from getting out there and interacting with people, not viewing stats online or watching Youtube videos.

Yes, I agree that black guys don't all look alike. We have a more varied look than any other race, so to make the assumption that women in certain regions only like a certain type of black guy is stupid.


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(Today 01:22 AM)wrecker132 Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 10:33 PM)newandimproved Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 09:38 PM)wrecker132 Wrote:  
(12-06-2018 04:08 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  -Black Caesar

The getting entrance to clubs problem is solveable once you actually live here. You HAVE to work a bit hard to make connections but once thats done its done and youll have access to places but its still not EASY to do and takes a level of persistence and drive to make it. All that bullshit just to get inside a nightclub to TRY and game girls. Its ridiculous.

I am very often the 1 of 3 black dudes in a spot. Still doesn't make gaming girls in there easier.

I did have game issues in the past but I worked all the kinks in that out and made progress and got at better girls and got laid... but those higher level German girls are brutal. Its not that its forbidden here. I think from the girl's side its just looked down upon and alot of them don't consider us as a viable option.

I sincerely believe its an SMV or "looks" problem at this point.

- Kadenz

THEY REALLY CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. I wouldnt come on here lying it about it. I couldnt believe it myself when I got it but it is what it is. I thought that the SIMPLE solution was to distinguish myself in other ways and viola! Girls would be after me.

I tried:

-Not dressing like the other black guys: Suits.. more preppy clothes. Not looking like an imitation of Future or whatever hot rapper at the time. Tried the successful Black business man approach. NOPE... Didn't fucking work well... Still got laid and dates but lower level SMV girls.

- Social Circle Game: Hanging out with a bunch of rich white German guys and going to their hotel, house and bottle service parties...... NOPE doesnt work. You are the cool token black guy that the girls dont really want to fuck with. I got laid again but in the end you end up last pick in the draft. White boys first draft pick.

-Party host game... Bottle service game... I tried it all.

After all that I realized trying to stand out what was fucking me up in the first place. Black men here are generally a niche thing. I decided to try and go to the top of the "black niche" market. So I changed up my style to a street look (See TIGHA clothing for what I am talking about) and changed up my game strategy (much harder, more serious and more aggressive) to match the look for congruence and then I moved forward with women much better. Turns out that women here that are interested in black guys want the stereotype and the further you deviate from this, the worst time you will have with them. I joke with other black guys and say they want a 21 savage. Honestly its probably true.

So there is a social, Instagram celebrity or whatever the fuck you want to call it who IS with a black guy here. Shes not a 8+ in my opinion (looks wise) but her value is def 8+ and alot of girls follow her and follow her example (buy her fashion bullshit and all that). She has 1.5 million followers on Instagram. Now you are saying OK it is possible to get one of those chicks. So what kind of black guy do you have to be to reach 8+ consistently in Germany and of course ill show you.

First here is her gram and a picture of her:

https://www.instagram.com/sarah.harrison.official/

[Image: ZYYKfk8m.jpg]

and him

https://www.instagram.com/dominic.harrison.official/

[Image: S18ECoNm.jpg]

THAT...fellas is the black man that German girls want. The more you deviate from this, the more issues you will have getting quality around here. And still this place is so fucked that I am not 100% sure he could pull 8+ on a consistent basis.

Enough of my ranting about Germany but Coverdoc's post really got me riled up to really give the truth with details about what goes on around here.

As you were gentlemen.

Alot more info like this when I decide to drop a proper sheet. I am hesitant to do one while I still live here in fear of it going viral and me getting hassled to be honest. I gotta still live here... For now.

Everything you said about Germany is applicable in Manhattan NYC, and really across the Eastern Seaboard from Maine down to Mass. So I can understand your frustration completely.

NYC really? I run my intellectual, hipster game great there. I'm mostly based in L.A. and do fine but in Manhattan I do even better. There's no better place for me in the states, IMO, online and when it comes to nightgame. My most recent NYC ex, a solid 8 white-Asian girl, turned heads both in Manhattan and out in Cali. My other boy, late 20s in finance lives on the UWS, also cleans up in NYC. He's a bit more "mainstream" than me, but still, definitely not a stereotype.

In my experience, it's the smaller coastal towns where non-stereotypical black guys don't do as well. For instance, any beach city in Southern California, (minus Santa Monica/Venice) including San Diego. Jersey Shore would be another.

I'm definitely intellectual, but not a hipster, nor would I ever want to be defined as one. I defintely dress well, keep some Jordans on my feet lol, of course for club/bars I have nice Chelsea/Red Wing Boots. And FWIW, I do extremely well in California haha. I'm starting to think it's more a values thing on the differing coasts. I do quite fine in small areas of the West as well. IDK, i have finals to be studying for anyways lmao.

I only say this to note - Game and the perception of game is different depending on the region/locale within the world, and definitely within the US for a black person - I've lived nearly everywhere (Midwest, South, Southwest, West Coast, & Northeast). I definitely think the framework and confidence one has are important. But I've noticed in my 1.5 years in NYC, there is a certain type of black man that does well here considering interracial dating, and it's definitely more the Van Jones type than the Marc Lamont Hill. FWIW, the non black girls in AZ aren't really in tune with hipster or black dudes that are of a muscular build,/seen as a typical man's man. Different expectations and demands everywhere. We're not a monolith and this just needs to be noted. I for one think the differing viewpoints are pretty informative and I'm definitely going to be utilizing the strategies in here hard next semester. Now i have some finals to take, so I'm gonna chill out.

Good luck with the finals bro. When you're done I'd like to know what you think the difference is between a Van Jones type than a Marc Lamont Hill type haha. I'm a fan of both of those brothers and consider myself to be similar to them... more so Hill these days with Van Jones trying to be too much of a moderate. Frankly, the most politically/socially aware white women I've come across were from New York, especially Jewish girls, whom I have a thing for.

But yes, we aren't a monolith and I'm loving the different perspectives on here, even when they don't jibe with my experience.
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Any chance we can get a discord or some kind of groupchat going for some talk following the subject of this thread and related topics? Anyone interested?
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(Yesterday 01:16 PM)kadenz Wrote:  
(Yesterday 12:44 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^ Can you please stop polluting this thread with all these questions and so called stats you have read on the internet.

Your writing style makes me think you were a previous poster who was banned.

Buy a car because you like it, who cares what anyone thinks.

Why not buy a ticket and travel to Scandinavia, then you can get answers to your questions first hand. I have been to Sweden four times and Iceland three times, I had a blast every time I went.

Just trying to use stats to show my point sometimes, will try to find the exact stats next time and post a source. And yeah will definitely go to Scandinavian sometime to, which part of Scandinavia do you recommend the most?

Why would I add you to discord or a whatsapp group? What value do you bring.

Travel to a place that interests you, don't have any expectations and enjoy yourself. Don't go just for the women, go for the culture.

If I say go to country X the woman are amazing, some numpty is going to come on here and say they are ugly.

I have done all of Scandinavia except Finland. I didn't spend much time in Denmark, so like Moma suggested why not try that.

FYI - there are a lot of good places out there, not everyone wants to tell you about places they like.

There is another link in the travel section, about good places to travel for a black American guy.

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I think some of the doom and gloom rhetoric of the forum is spilling over into this thread.

I don't know how much traveling you guys get to do but I would encourage you to get out into the world and see places for yourself. You might be surprised at how your own experience may differ from the mainstream consensus.
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