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Red Pill Chronicles
Not sure there is a thread out there like this and I'm not one to start too many threads overall. However, I just thought it would be interesting to see how the membership here would react to certain situations as red pill men. It may be obvious but I'm specifically asking for you to put yourself in the situation and gauge your own potential response. Post your own situations as well. I'm sure you guys got some good ones.

I'll start with one:

You buy a monthly pass for the train. You realize you forgot it home. You have enough time to still buy a ticket so the ticket agent doesn't give you shit on the train. Would you buy a ticket for that day just to escape questioning in front of a lot of people?

What do you do?

I'll let you know what I do later.

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03-04-2015 07:19 PM
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Don't they fine you if you don't have a valid pass?

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03-04-2015 08:07 PM
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RE: Red Pill Chronicles
(03-04-2015 07:19 PM)Cobra Wrote:  Not sure there is a thread out there like this and I'm not one to start too many threads overall. However, I just thought it would be interesting to see how the membership here would react to certain situations as red pill men. It may be obvious but I'm specifically asking for you to put yourself in the situation and gauge your own potential response. Post your own situations as well. I'm sure you guys got some good ones.

I'll start with one:

You buy a monthly pass for the train. You realize you forgot it home. You have enough time to still buy a ticket so the ticket agent doesn't give you shit on the train. Would you buy a ticket for that day just to escape questioning in front of a lot of people?

What do you do?

I'll let you know what I do later.



I am NOT sure that I characterize myself as redpill because I do NOT like labels, and I do NOT take action based on some image of what is redpill or what is bluepill but instead based on what I think is the best thing to do under the circumstances.

In any event, I am NOT really sure if I understand the cost/benefit analysis regarding whether you have a train ticket or NOT. Nonetheless, I have some idea about what i would do in this particular hypothetical because of my personality (which is I do NOT like to pay for things twice, if I can avoid it). In that regard, likely I would NOT buy another ticket because I already bought a monthly ticket that just happens to be at home because I just forgot it... Accordingly, I would probably take my chances regarding being asked, and once I was asked, I would look for the ticket assuming that I had the ticket and then find that I did NOT have the ticket.

There are probably better scenarios to apply "redpill", yet I suppose that you, Cobra, have something better response in mind, here?
03-05-2015 02:33 AM
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I don't understand what a cost-benefit analysis of buying a single train ticket to make up for you forgetting the monthly pass has to do with red pill.

I would buy the ticket because otherwise I'll be fined for not having one. Of course I could probably act like a jerk to the controller and get away with it, but the poor guy doesn't deserve that.

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03-05-2015 07:06 AM
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(03-05-2015 07:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I don't understand what a cost-benefit analysis of buying a single train ticket to make up for you forgetting the monthly pass has to do with red pill.

I would buy the ticket because otherwise I'll be fined for not having one. Of course I could probably act like a jerk to the controller and get away with it, but the poor guy doesn't deserve that.

HCE... I am NOT sure if the above bolded statement was directed at me or at OP - because I chose the words "cost-benefit analysis." All I meant about cost-benefit analysis is that I am NOT really sure about the various costs involved in buying a daily, a monthly or what the probabilities of the fine would be (and, if so, how much). I think those numbers may go into any informed calculation regarding what to do, whether or NOT it relates to "red pill" exactly.

I would consider the terms red pill and blue pill to deal with personal interactions, for example with the train police, but I suppose a guy may NOT really know exactly his bargaining power unless he knows the various ramifications of his actions - like a guy could probably get away with being more cocky, if he knew that the maximum penalty is $50 versus, for example, if there were a possibility of a death sentence.
03-05-2015 01:42 PM
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Gents… I don’t want to give out the impression that I think I’m “red pill” or what not and know of some tactics to make people become red pill. And therein lies a fundamental issue I have with starting new threads. Stepping back a bit, as I gain more reputation on the forum, I keep thinking about how to add more value. But I’m new to it and at a certain level I’m experimenting and given certain responses or criticisms, I’d just like to adjust my approach and understand how valuable it is to start certain threads and how to do it properly. I’m not Tuth, 2Wycked, Fisto or any of the other guys here that start great threads, but I’d like to get there. Anyways, I started this thread and instead of running away, will commit to it by clarifying the best I can.

Back to the subject, (which should have likely been better explained in the OP), before I discovered the forum, I exhibited a lot of behaviors that I wasn’t self conscious about. For example, if there is a prime spot in a movie theater, and I would have to ask people to move over one seat to obtain that prime spot so I can sit with my companion, I wouldn’t do it so I “don’t bother them.” I undoubtedly was just trying to be a good boy and be compliant. On top of that I thought I was being respectful which I now know is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with respect.

After discovering the forum, I have “started” to be less compliant and more about doing whatever I want, thereby pushing myself out of my own comfort zone. This includes approaching girls in a variety of situations and also pushing other social boundaries. For example, I will ask a few people to move down a seat to close gaps so I can sit with my family or friends. Now does that make me red pill? Number one, as pointed out already by JayJuanGee, it’s a label. Number two, even if it’s the right label, I’m really not THAT red pill. I still pussy out on approaches, and I still pussy out a lot in social interactions more than I would like to. That being said, for me, it’s more about being conscious and challenge as many situations as possible. If that’s red pill, I’ll take it. In the end though, it’s a journey first and foremost and I’m trying to take the driver’s seat instead of a passenger seat.

As to the train situation, only a little a while ago, I would have been afraid of the “authority” figure that’s the ticket controller and also afraid of people over hearing the interaction and maybe laughing at me. At that time, being compliant made me comforable. Not happy, not content, just comfortable and satisfied. The bare minimum if you will. So when I ventured into popping the “red pill,” (or what not) I forcefully recognized such behaviors and consciously changed them. When I say “consciously,” I mean that to be a bit deeper than just knowing what to do and doing it. To me,iIt’s also about performing some kind of assessment as to what type of reaction you may get and what to do to hold that frame.

In this example, I thought about it (maybe too much) when I first forgot my pass. I knew that I’d be given shit and they also ask for cash to buy a ticket. I may even get fined but if they don’t know who I am, there’s no way they can as the controllers have all the other tickets to look at. I suppose they can report me to an on board policeman but I highly doubt if they care that much to do that based on how methodical they are (and they don’t get paid that much I assume).

So, I decided to say “I have a monthly pass, I forgot it. It was in my wallet and I left it at home or work.” This isn’t something unethical I’m doing, it is actually the truth. Then they ask if I have cash and I say “No, I’m sorry, I don’t.” They walk away with an “OK” 90% of the time. A big lady once gave me shit and was really loud about it. While I got rattled, I let it go. Some people stare, but a couple seconds later, they go back to their world.

When I hesitate in this type of situation, I literally picture swallowing a red pill, and do exactly what I’d like to do if I can commit myself. So far, it’s toughest for me to do this with approaching girls, but again it’s about commitment and promising yourself you’ll do it.

Now I know this seems like some minor situation that doesn’t seem like a huge deal, but at least for me, if I behave a certain way in a minor situation, I will exhibit similar behaviors into other minor situations which then steam roll into major situations for which I bear a huge risk of loss or experience a full loss.

This is just my take. I was hoping for some commentary on similar transitions within the membership that show how you have consciously adjusted your behavior to adjust yourself outside of your comfort zone and take risks, with some examples if possible. I don't mean critical risks that may get you killed, unless you really take those every day. I just felt like focusing on every day normal situations. I want to exclude “approaches” of women because we have an “Approach Thread” for that.

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03-06-2015 02:47 PM
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RE: Red Pill Chronicles
option 3, if i paid with credit card, i would try to show the charge for the amount of a monthly pass on my credit card statement on my phone.

Why are you forgetting your pass so often? maybe keep it with your phone case or wallet or whatnot?

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03-06-2015 03:07 PM
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