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(11-23-2018 02:10 PM)RDF Wrote:  ^ Nice man, putting in work!

My guess is Friday and Saturday should be better since a lot of people are going to come up just for the weekend after doing family stuff on Weds/Thurs.

Just a reminder that girls are in Vegas to have fun, so you should really play up the fact that you are doing the same. When I approach groups of girls in Vegas, I keep the conversation really basic (where are you from, first time or repeat visitor, where are you staying, bachelorette party or birthday?, etc) and hope that within a few mins I get something to stick. For example, we're both from the same city, we're both staying at Wynn. Then, basically just keep the energy going and pull to your spot under the pretense of keeping the party going.

This is where logistics and having your spot stocked with booze is key. If you're staying in the same hotel as them (or the same hotel as the club), it makes life a lot easier in that sense.

When approaching solo girls, especially later in the night, just escalate quickly, find out her story (why she's alone!) to screen that she's a normal chick and not a hooker (I think this is less common than people tend to think, but they're out there), and pull to your spot.

Unfortunately, this is all easier said than done (I find that to be the case with most nightgame advice). I always follow the same pattern as you suggest: approach, physicality, screen for logistics, teasing, vibe... but am never able to pull.

Went out last night to Tao, then Hakkasan, with a guy I met at Omnia who assists on RSD bootcamps. He took me under his wing and taught me a lot. Probably approached 30-40 sets, had really good conversations but nothing stuck. He even remarked "you're a good-looking guy, you're naturally social, I really don't understand why you're not pulling more".

Lesson 5: How to get into clubs in Vegas for free: Google "<club name> host" and find a host at the club you want to go to. Sometimes their numbers will be listed on a site, if not, get their name and search for them on Instagram. Text the number: "Hey it's <name>, wondering if you can get me on the guest list tonight. +2 girls". The last part is because sometimes they charge you if you don't bring girls in. Now, the plan for getting girls is the hardest part but still pretty easy. Roll up to the club and roam the casino floor and surrounding areas. Approach girls in clubwear and ask if they're heading to the club. If they are, just act like you work there and say "follow me". Lead them to the line, say you're on the host's list, and boom, now you have a couple new drinking buddies, and some social proof/status for getting them in.

I did just this last night to get into Tao with 3 Brazilian girls. By the way, Tao was incredible. Not only is the ambience unbelievable, the ratios were great. Early in the night there were more girls than guys. Early on I approached a bunch of girls just being social and flirty and fun and got good results. Was hoping to reapproach the same sets later in the night but it seems a lot of sets just disappear (maybe hit up another club?) I should probably try going for the number next time to send out some hail mary texts around closing time.

Hakkasan was pretty bad. Swarming with PUAs and low-value dudes and all the hot girls were at tables. It was also extremely loud.

One thing I learned from the guy I was winging with was that 40% of his Vegas pulls happen after the clubs close (which is 4 AM). I don't really have staying power for that during the week, especially because I tend to have early morning meetings. So that puts a damper on Vegas for me. I'll probably have to schedule future trips around times where I'm truly taking time off work.

It truly seems that Vegas is "last dick standing" game Undecided

Ended up with 3 Instagrams and one number. One IG girl was responding this morning (Mexican Instastar with 16K followers) but seems to have ghosted.

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^ From what you're writing, I would be pretty surprised if you don't pull this weekend haha. Your lession #5 is something I now do regularly but it took me a while to get the confidence and game necessary to do it. So you def seem like you're far along.

Hakkasan is wack unless you have a table, in which case it is AWESOME. Otherwise your best bet is to stay in the upstairs area or by the back bar. The dance floor is a complete shitshow.

I'd highly recommend the clubs at Encore, specifically XS on Saturday nights. The outside won't be as nice since its colder, but it is still a great club to make moves, it is never too crowded, and almost always draws a good crowd. Its my favorite club in the world. Tomorrow is Chainsmokers so it may be a bit too crazy but there will be lots of attractive girls. My second choice would be Omnia.

Good luck!

Edit: One last thing I would add is that you may be coming across too scripted. I remember when I started out nightgaming in Vegas and would basically approach each girl with the same line. While I got decent results (numbers, makeouts, etc), I would always get burned at the end. Over time I recognized that I felt too scripted/unoriginal. Unless a girl is a complete hoe, she wants to feel at least somewhat "special" to you. So nowadays I play much more of the interactions by ear and display a little more vulnerability ("I don't go to Vegas tooo often"). This helps make a girl feel good and sends the message that the interaction is more meaningful to you.
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(11-23-2018 03:56 PM)RDF Wrote:  ^ From what you're writing, I would be pretty surprised if you don't pull this weekend haha. Your lession #5 is something I now do regularly but it took me a while to get the confidence and game necessary to do it. So you def seem like you're far along.

Hakkasan is wack unless you have a table, in which case it is AWESOME. Otherwise your best bet is to stay in the upstairs area or by the back bar. The dance floor is a complete shitshow.

I'd highly recommend the clubs at Encore, specifically XS on Saturday nights. The outside won't be as nice since its colder, but it is still a great club to make moves, it is never too crowded, and almost always draws a good crowd. Its my favorite club in the world. Tomorrow is Chainsmokers so it may be a bit too crazy but there will be lots of attractive girls. My second choice would be Omnia.

Good luck!

Edit: One last thing I would add is that you may be coming across too scripted. I remember when I started out nightgaming in Vegas and would basically approach each girl with the same line. While I got decent results (numbers, makeouts, etc), I would always get burned at the end. Over time I recognized that I felt too scripted/unoriginal. Unless a girl is a complete hoe, she wants to feel at least somewhat "special" to you. So nowadays I play much more of the interactions by ear and display a little more vulnerability ("I don't go to Vegas tooo often"). This helps make a girl feel good and sends the message that the interaction is more meaningful to you.

Two things I would add to RDF's points:

Table game is absolute king in Vegas, especially with girls coming into town Friday-Sunday. If you keep a positive mindset and continue to cold approach, the real estate in the club should pay off tonight and Sat night. I haven't been to Vegas during this holiday week, but I've been many times during a normal work week, and stayed over for the weekend. My results were mediocre to awful partying on a Wednesday night. Thursday night at Tao (best spot that night on the strip) was a little better. Friday nights (depending on crowd) are hit and miss. A friend that goes out to Vegas monthly told me from Veterans Day to NYE is dead, and if is a sausage fest in the best clubs. You will have more competition than you've seen this week thus far, but don't let that discourage you.

I just checked the calendar of events going on this weekend via JackColton's website, and there are a lot of good options which will draw girls. Chainsmokers (XS), Steve Aoki (Omnia), Fabolous (Drais), and Hyde and Jewel are always consistent on Sat Nights at least when I've been out there during the Spring and Summer.

Looking forward to your weekend report.
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btw - that 4am "last dick standing" game is very true in Vegas just like South Beach Miami. For those who have early starts the following day, it can wreck your life. I remember one time staying in Hakassan on a Thursday night Lil Jon was performing a DJ set, and pulling a solid 7 from San Antonio, TX. She wanted to grab a bite to eat after the club, which I wasn't feeling, but talked to her into heading back to the room for a drink. Somewhere along the way from Lyft ride back to the hotel and then to my room, she got cold feet, and my drunk ass was trying to re-close. Not a good move, and a waste of an hour. Crashed around 515am, had a 7am wake up call and a 730am (1030 EST) conference call I had to be on for three fucking hours. I will never forget my ears ringing and feeling like death that entire time.
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(09-22-2017 12:04 PM)Beirut Wrote:  What's the crowd like during rodeo week in December? I had assumed it would be a sausage fest but read somewhere it's the opposite. I'm itching for a Vegas trip and have November and December (after Halloween and before Christmas) potentially free.

Any specific time within that that will be optimal?

Anybody have any input on this, when the National Finals Rodeo is in town? Thinking of going during this year.
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(11-23-2018 03:56 PM)RDF Wrote:  ^ From what you're writing, I would be pretty surprised if you don't pull this weekend haha.

+1 RDF.

VEGAS FIELD REPORT DAY 5: D-D-OUBLEPULL SUCCESS

Started off the evening by fucking Indian 7 from 45-minute Tinder date. Too damn easy, I opened direct and she wanted to grab drinks/food first. Showed up and she looked way better than her photos. I was expecting a 6 and upgraded her a point. She had the typical Indian princess/bratty archetype, which I have a ton of experience handling at this point, after a couple weeks gaming in India earlier this year. Bring her back and get her naked on my bed. Pull out my shitty 60 cent condom I bought in Guatemala from my wallet, upon seeing it she reveals she has a latex allergy. Fuck. She looks at me skeptically, so I get to work heating her back up, Spiderman fingering her G-spot until she's begging me to fuck her raw. Do so and shoot two loads cause I haven't fapped since the Filipina girl I closed last weekend.

Get her cleaned up and sent on her way, and I roll up to Omnia around 11 PM. Lines are about 10x as long on Fridays as they are during the week, apparently. 3 girl, 1 guy set rocks up and gawks at the line. Turns out they just arrived yesterday from the Midwest and they're fucking fraternal QUADRUPLETS. My hardbody 7.5 target is by far hotter than her two sisters and is wearing no bra and a ridiculously sexy slitted dress which parts to reveal a bunch of tattoos. They just arrived the day before, so I play the Vegas expert card acting like I'm hot shit and know everything. Hammered dude in front of us in line notices and decides to be my best friend, me + quadruplets have fun making fun of him behind his back. I notice my target seems to be laughing extra hard at my jokes, and she starts hitting me to punctuate her points. Rarely get IOIs like this, so as we enter the club I pull my phone out, hand it to her and say "you seem cool, put in your number and we'll kick it later". Text her my name, roll off to give her space with her siblings, and get a text back within a couple minutes. Good sign #2.

A couple minutes later I approach a Florida college girl dancing in a big mixed set. <Hand on back> "I see you over there working it" (JMULV opener), she responds "Where have you been all night, I've been waiting", we banter for a bit and I can tell she's DTF, I sexualize within the first minute:

me: "you seem like a brat"
her: "what are you going to do about it?"
"spank you, probably"
"don't threaten me with a good time ;-)"

Her friends start to pull her away, before tonight I would have just let her go but this time I pull out my phone quickly and grab the number.

Onto a different part of the club, I open a couple married sets by accident (never look for rings), then meet up with my new wing from yesterday. Get about 30 seconds of catching up with him, when I get TWO TEXTS from the Midwest quadruplet and the Florida college girl, both wondering where I am. I like the quadruplet better so I go to her. Turns out her siblings left and she stayed behind to try to find me. Good sign #3 would be an understatement. After five minutes of flirting I'm sure it's on, but I'm still in disbelief because of my underwhelming pulling track record with nightgame. I drop the gamey shit and just focus on leading her around the club while having normal conversation with her about life. I keep playing the Vegas expert at this point, acting like I'm the fucking God of Omnia and explaining everything about clubs (she's from a 4000 person town so she's never been to one before). At this point it's 1 AM, and she's not the dancing type. She hints that drinks are expensive, so I pitch going somewhere more quiet to drink. We walk out on the casino floor and I'm planning to sit her down and talk for a bit before pulling to mine, but she hints that she doesn't really like casinos, so we go to mine directly.

In the Uber line we run into the Indian girl I fucked three and a half hours before. She recognizes me and starts laughing. Most guys would ignore and feel awkward but I introduce the two girls (not explaining anything, obviously) and we have a great time kicking it for a minute while waiting for the Uber.

Get the girl home and pour her some wine, she's a cat person so she plays with my cat. Go for the kiss, she says no and pulls aside for the hug, I laugh and lead her to the couch. Talk for 20 minutes more, tell her "you like having your hair played with, huh?" she purrs affirmatively in response. Look her in the eyes: "You like having your hair pulled?" <pull her hair> "sometimes" she smiles back. Start kissing her and it's on. Lead her to the bedroom, pull off her dress and realize how hot this girl is. Probably the sexiest girl I've ever been (for my standards). Hardbody with muscles, nice tits, ass, and a chiseled face. Best of all, she's ridiculously sexual. Dominate the fuck out of her, make her come twice and I've never seen a girl orgasm that hard. Full body shaking, convulsing, eyes rolling back in her head, complete with 10 minutes of panting to recover.

Lesson 7: Variance, variance, variance. Sometimes things just work out. Getting two girls chasing within 20 minutes of being in the club was the feedback I needed that my Game is indeed solid and I just needed to keep putting in the work. Two more nights in Vegas with more adventures in store!

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(11-24-2018 01:16 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-23-2018 03:56 PM)RDF Wrote:  ^ From what you're writing, I would be pretty surprised if you don't pull this weekend haha.

+1 RDF.

VEGAS FIELD REPORT DAY 5: D-D-OUBLEPULL SUCCESS

Started off the evening by fucking Indian 7 from 45-minute Tinder date. Too damn easy, I opened direct and she wanted to grab drinks/food first. Showed up and she looked way better than her photos. I was expecting a 6 and upgraded her a point. She had the typical Indian princess/bratty archetype, which I have a ton of experience handling at this point, after a couple weeks gaming in India earlier this year. Bring her back and get her naked on my bed. Pull out my shitty 60 cent condom I bought in Guatemala from my wallet, upon seeing it she reveals she has a latex allergy. Fuck. She looks at me skeptically, so I get to work heating her back up, Spiderman fingering her G-spot until she's begging me to fuck her raw. Do so and shoot two loads cause I haven't fapped since the Filipina girl I closed last weekend.

Get her cleaned up and sent on her way, and I roll up to Omnia around 11 PM. Lines are about 10x as long on Fridays as they are during the week, apparently. 3 girl, 1 guy set rocks up and gawks at the line. Turns out they just arrived yesterday from the Midwest and they're fucking fraternal QUADRUPLETS. My hardbody 7.5 target is by far hotter than her two sisters and is wearing no bra and a ridiculously sexy slitted dress which parts to reveal a bunch of tattoos. They just arrived the day before, so I play the Vegas expert card acting like I'm hot shit and know everything. Hammered dude in front of us in line notices and decides to be my best friend, me + quadruplets have fun making fun of him behind his back. I notice my target seems to be laughing extra hard at my jokes, and she starts hitting me to punctuate her points. Rarely get IOIs like this, so as we enter the club I pull my phone out, hand it to her and say "you seem cool, put in your number and we'll kick it later". Text her my name, roll off to give her space with her siblings, and get a text back within a couple minutes. Good sign #2.

A couple minutes later I approach a Florida college girl dancing in a big mixed set. <Hand on back> "I see you over there working it" (JMULV opener), she responds "Where have you been all night, I've been waiting", we banter for a bit and I can tell she's DTF, I sexualize within the first minute:

me: "you seem like a brat"
her: "what are you going to do about it?"
"spank you, probably"
"don't threaten me with a good time ;-)"

Her friends start to pull her away, before tonight I would have just let her go but this time I pull out my phone quickly and grab the number.

Onto a different part of the club, I open a couple married sets by accident (never look for rings), then meet up with my new wing from yesterday. Get about 30 seconds of catching up with him, when I get TWO TEXTS from the Midwest quadruplet and the Florida college girl, both wondering where I am. I like the quadruplet better so I go to her. Turns out her siblings left and she stayed behind to try to find me. Good sign #3 would be an understatement. After five minutes of flirting I'm sure it's on, but I'm still in disbelief because of my underwhelming pulling track record with nightgame. I drop the gamey shit and just focus on leading her around the club while having normal conversation with her about life. I keep playing the Vegas expert at this point, acting like I'm the fucking God of Omnia and explaining everything about clubs (she's from a 4000 person town so she's never been to one before). At this point it's 1 AM, and she's not the dancing type. She hints that drinks are expensive, so I pitch going somewhere more quiet to drink. We walk out on the casino floor and I'm planning to sit her down and talk for a bit before pulling to mine, but she hints that she doesn't really like casinos, so we go to mine directly.

In the Uber line we run into the Indian girl I fucked three and a half hours before. She recognizes me and starts laughing. Most guys would ignore and feel awkward but I introduce the two girls (not explaining anything, obviously) and we have a great time kicking it for a minute while waiting for the Uber.

Get the girl home and pour her some wine, she's a cat person so she plays with my cat. Go for the kiss, she says no and pulls aside for the hug, I laugh and lead her to the couch. Talk for 20 minutes more, tell her "you like having your hair played with, huh?" she purrs affirmatively in response. Look her in the eyes: "You like having your hair pulled?" <pull her hair> "sometimes" she smiles back. Start kissing her and it's on. Lead her to the bedroom, pull off her dress and realize how hot this girl is. Probably the sexiest girl I've ever been (for my standards). Hardbody with muscles, nice tits, ass, and a chiseled face. Best of all, she's ridiculously sexual. Dominate the fuck out of her, make her come twice and I've never seen a girl orgasm that hard. Full body shaking, convulsing, eyes rolling back in her head, complete with 10 minutes of panting to recover.

Lesson 7: Variance, variance, variance. Sometimes things just work out. Getting two girls chasing within 20 minutes of being in the club was the feedback I needed that my Game is indeed solid and I just needed to keep putting in the work. Two more nights in Vegas with more adventures in store!

Congrats man great work and I KNEW your weekend would turn around based on the effort you were putting in on the dead nights. I don't know why Vegas doesn't get more love on the forums here. This is another solid story that even during the slow season there is plenty of poosey to be had for those who put in the work. Can't wait to read the next installment of your TR.

This gets me excited for my next trip out there next Spring haha
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(11-24-2018 01:16 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-23-2018 03:56 PM)RDF Wrote:  ^ From what you're writing, I would be pretty surprised if you don't pull this weekend haha.

+1 RDF.

VEGAS FIELD REPORT DAY 5: D-D-OUBLEPULL SUCCESS

Started off the evening by fucking Indian 7 from 45-minute Tinder date. Too damn easy, I opened direct and she wanted to grab drinks/food first. Showed up and she looked way better than her photos. I was expecting a 6 and upgraded her a point. She had the typical Indian princess/bratty archetype, which I have a ton of experience handling at this point, after a couple weeks gaming in India earlier this year. Bring her back and get her naked on my bed. Pull out my shitty 60 cent condom I bought in Guatemala from my wallet, upon seeing it she reveals she has a latex allergy. Fuck. She looks at me skeptically, so I get to work heating her back up, Spiderman fingering her G-spot until she's begging me to fuck her raw. Do so and shoot two loads cause I haven't fapped since the Filipina girl I closed last weekend.

Get her cleaned up and sent on her way, and I roll up to Omnia around 11 PM. Lines are about 10x as long on Fridays as they are during the week, apparently. 3 girl, 1 guy set rocks up and gawks at the line. Turns out they just arrived yesterday from the Midwest and they're fucking fraternal QUADRUPLETS. My hardbody 7.5 target is by far hotter than her two sisters and is wearing no bra and a ridiculously sexy slitted dress which parts to reveal a bunch of tattoos. They just arrived the day before, so I play the Vegas expert card acting like I'm hot shit and know everything. Hammered dude in front of us in line notices and decides to be my best friend, me + quadruplets have fun making fun of him behind his back. I notice my target seems to be laughing extra hard at my jokes, and she starts hitting me to punctuate her points. Rarely get IOIs like this, so as we enter the club I pull my phone out, hand it to her and say "you seem cool, put in your number and we'll kick it later". Text her my name, roll off to give her space with her siblings, and get a text back within a couple minutes. Good sign #2.

A couple minutes later I approach a Florida college girl dancing in a big mixed set. <Hand on back> "I see you over there working it" (JMULV opener), she responds "Where have you been all night, I've been waiting", we banter for a bit and I can tell she's DTF, I sexualize within the first minute:

me: "you seem like a brat"
her: "what are you going to do about it?"
"spank you, probably"
"don't threaten me with a good time ;-)"

Her friends start to pull her away, before tonight I would have just let her go but this time I pull out my phone quickly and grab the number.

Onto a different part of the club, I open a couple married sets by accident (never look for rings), then meet up with my new wing from yesterday. Get about 30 seconds of catching up with him, when I get TWO TEXTS from the Midwest quadruplet and the Florida college girl, both wondering where I am. I like the quadruplet better so I go to her. Turns out her siblings left and she stayed behind to try to find me. Good sign #3 would be an understatement. After five minutes of flirting I'm sure it's on, but I'm still in disbelief because of my underwhelming pulling track record with nightgame. I drop the gamey shit and just focus on leading her around the club while having normal conversation with her about life. I keep playing the Vegas expert at this point, acting like I'm the fucking God of Omnia and explaining everything about clubs (she's from a 4000 person town so she's never been to one before). At this point it's 1 AM, and she's not the dancing type. She hints that drinks are expensive, so I pitch going somewhere more quiet to drink. We walk out on the casino floor and I'm planning to sit her down and talk for a bit before pulling to mine, but she hints that she doesn't really like casinos, so we go to mine directly.

In the Uber line we run into the Indian girl I fucked three and a half hours before. She recognizes me and starts laughing. Most guys would ignore and feel awkward but I introduce the two girls (not explaining anything, obviously) and we have a great time kicking it for a minute while waiting for the Uber.

Get the girl home and pour her some wine, she's a cat person so she plays with my cat. Go for the kiss, she says no and pulls aside for the hug, I laugh and lead her to the couch. Talk for 20 minutes more, tell her "you like having your hair played with, huh?" she purrs affirmatively in response. Look her in the eyes: "You like having your hair pulled?" <pull her hair> "sometimes" she smiles back. Start kissing her and it's on. Lead her to the bedroom, pull off her dress and realize how hot this girl is. Probably the sexiest girl I've ever been (for my standards). Hardbody with muscles, nice tits, ass, and a chiseled face. Best of all, she's ridiculously sexual. Dominate the fuck out of her, make her come twice and I've never seen a girl orgasm that hard. Full body shaking, convulsing, eyes rolling back in her head, complete with 10 minutes of panting to recover.

Lesson 7: Variance, variance, variance. Sometimes things just work out. Getting two girls chasing within 20 minutes of being in the club was the feedback I needed that my Game is indeed solid and I just needed to keep putting in the work. Two more nights in Vegas with more adventures in store!

Congratulations man. I'll try to do my best when in Vegas in December as well. Getting motivated.

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VEGAS FIELD REPORT DAY 6 AND 7

Had a fucking awesome Taiwanese girl over to the pad from Tinder in the evening. She's in town with her gay friend, her friend says she works too much and doesn't get out enough so he makes her download Tinder and after she arranges the date with me, the guy even picks out a sexy outfit for her (he's a fashion design student). I totally owe the guy a beer because she shows up to the front gate of my apartment complex wearing heels, a wraparound leather shirt that shows off her ass, and a floral top. She's very clearly there to get fucked but I get to know her for 30-40 minutes first before she starts kissing me. Dominate the fuck out of her and soon she's begging for me to fuck her in front of the mirror in my room. Turns out she hadn't had sex in months and is in an experimental phase. She lives only a short ways away from me back in San Francisco so hopefully we'll be seeing each other when I'm back in town.

After that I went out to XS. XS is one of the hottest clubs in town and it's a preferred pickup location due to having a large outdoor area that's a bit quieter. This night was pretty cold so not many people were in the outdoor area. It was Saturday and the Chainsmokers were playing so I was a bit worried about getting in without cover. I pulled the same trick as in previous nights and approached this ridiculously hot 4 set of Southern Methodist University sorority girls and led them into line. My plan got jacked, though, when an employee came and pulled them out of line and tried to get them to skip. He asked if any guys were in their party and I said yes, so then he wouldn't let them skip again and their demeanor totally soured towards me (I don't blame them). Tried to play it off but failed miserably. Ended up skipping up ahead where some RSD immersion folks as well as a guy I knew from SF were. Ended up getting in for free by myself and winging with the guy from SF all night. I was in the zone. Talked to everyone, got a couple numbers. Unfortunately then the Chainsmokers came on and ruined everything because every girl wanted to listen to the music and it was loud as fuck. I went outside and almost pulled these two übercompliant Korean girls in like 5 minutes with my wing, though one that didn't speak English well said something to her friend during the pull out of the casino and sabotaged it. Same situation as with the Finnish girls the first night. After the night we went and got food at El Dorado Tacos. Vegas mainstay SquattinCasanova suggested the place and rolled out with us because he was teaching a bootcamp at XS the same night. Man apparently knows his food because the burrito I got was fucking amazing.

LESSON 8: Always get to the club at 10:30 to avoid lines and charges. Another guy I met a couple days before rolled in solo around midnight and had to pay $75.

LESSON 9: Clubs with well-known DJs playing on weekends suck, because they draw a bunch of girls who are actually there for the music and not just out to meet guys. It also makes early pulls pretty hard.

The next day was Sunday, I was super worn out from 6 nights of clubbing until 3:30 AM but was determined to have a good night for the last night. Unfortunately the only venue open was Hakkasan, which I hate because it's loud, smoky, and dominated by tables. Rolled out with same wing from SF. The Vegas immersion kids were out as well so the place was swarming with PUAs. As usual, grabbed a few numbers, but quantity/quality was bad because it was Sunday. Finally the wing and I decided to roll into the dancefloor, and I'm glad I did because I immediately locked eyes with this curvy Romanian Kardashian wannabe with a booty. Grabbed her immediately and was staring into her eyes and getting incredibly physical (couldn't do anything else because the music was too loud to hear). After a minute I grabbed her by the hand and led her into the club entrance where it was quieter. After 2-3 minutes of gaming and pulling her close to see if she was ready for the makeout (she put up some playful resistance), suddenly it was game on and she was all over me, biting my lip, etc. It was actually my first club makeout of all time. I pulled her hair back and kissed her neck but I made sure to pull away before she did. I then immediately went for the pull but she said "you have to wait" (it was 1:30 at that point) and went back to her friend. I grabbed her number and focused on other sets. Pursued other sets then I saw this overweight Indian guy grinding on her like an hour later. I stepped in, AMOGed the guy and dragged her away again, tried to pull but she wouldn't comply. My wing and I had exhausted every set in the club so we called it a night.

Back in SF and I get a random Facebook friend request from the Romanian girl. Apparently she liked me enough to stalk me, and now she's sending me nudes after a couple back and forths and wants me to come visit her in New York.

LESSON 10: The employees at Hakkasan will give you free earplugs if you ask. Hakkasan just plain sucks, it was my least favorite club in Vegas. Avoid if possible.

Overall, this trip was incredible, Vegas is truly like no other city in the world, and now I have a bunch of confidence in nightgame, which probably won't last as I'm not back in SF and will prepare to have my soul crushed by 6s blowing me out. YESSSSSS

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Great trip report. A week is a long time to spend in Vegas but you made the most of it each night. Was the Romanian Kardashian solo or with a crew, and how did her friends look?

I ask bc I remember last summer I was in Hyde and I met a girl about 5'5 w/o heels who sounds similar with a mixed black/white friend (both of them solid Vegas 8s) from NY
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(11-28-2018 04:12 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  Great trip report. A week is a long time to spend in Vegas but you made the most of it each night. Was the Romanian Kardashian solo or with a crew, and how did her friends look?

I ask bc I remember last summer I was in Hyde and I met a girl about 5'5 w/o heels who sounds similar with a mixed black/white friend (both of them solid Vegas 8s) from NY

She was with two friends, both Slavic looking. Her friends were actually hotter than her but I just happened to lock eyes with this girl first. I would definitely not give this girl an 8, maybe a 7 but only because of the plastic surgery ;-)

edit: apparently she wants me to know she did not go home with the Indian guy, hahaha

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The Golden Tiki lounge in Chinatown is a great place to start a night off. Cheap uber from the strip, the drinks are only 12 bucks or so for a nice polynesian style drink (strong, but you can't taste it).

I've been wanting to try out El Dorado for the mexican food (if its the spot next to the strip club), I'm going back in a few weeks.
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Great info man. Props for going out 6 straight nights. 2 nights in Vegas is usually good enough for me for a month haha.

Its cool that there were still girls there, even during Thanksgiving weekend, which makes me think that going in the winter isn't a complete lost cause.

I love Vegas. Despite how it may have changed over the past few years, I still think that it is club heaven, especially compared to anyplace in CA.
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(11-28-2018 04:27 PM)Drazen Wrote:  I've been wanting to try out El Dorado for the mexican food (if its the spot next to the strip club), I'm going back in a few weeks.

That is definitely the one, it's next to Sapphire. My god was it good.

RDF, quality/quantity was definitely bad from what I heard from other guys that lived there year round, but when you live in San Francisco, it's really hard to complain because it so easily shatters any quality we have here.

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IMO, quality in Vegas has gone way downhill the past few years overall. The hot girls/cool crowd are now traveling internationally more or are going elsewhere for bachelorette parties than in the past. Maybe its just me, but that is what is seems like. I mean there are still very attractive girls, but the cream of the crop isn't going to Vegas as much, its a much more basic "hot girls from the midwest" vibe.
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(11-29-2018 01:41 PM)Drazen Wrote:  IMO, quality in Vegas has gone way downhill the past few years overall. The hot girls/cool crowd are now traveling internationally more or are going elsewhere for bachelorette parties than in the past. Maybe its just me, but that is what is seems like. I mean there are still very attractive girls, but the cream of the crop isn't going to Vegas as much, its a much more basic "hot girls from the midwest" vibe.

Not saying you're wrong about Vegas (by all accounts I've read/heard you're actually correct), but it's funny to me that literally every thread in this forum says the same thing ("Quality in X city is going down!")

Surely there must be one city where quality is going up... or are all the hot chicks being shipped off to some lesbian island paradise?

At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.

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(11-29-2018 02:29 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 01:41 PM)Drazen Wrote:  IMO, quality in Vegas has gone way downhill the past few years overall. The hot girls/cool crowd are now traveling internationally more or are going elsewhere for bachelorette parties than in the past. Maybe its just me, but that is what is seems like. I mean there are still very attractive girls, but the cream of the crop isn't going to Vegas as much, its a much more basic "hot girls from the midwest" vibe.

Not saying you're wrong about Vegas (by all accounts I've read/heard you're actually correct), but it's funny to me that literally every thread in this forum says the same thing ("Quality in X city is going down!")

Surely there must be one city where quality is going up... or are all the hot chicks being shipped off to some lesbian island paradise?

At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.

They are all staying in, using apps to hook up with the top 1%, and surfacing only to take selfies in the DJ booth! Banana

Or maybe (more likely) we think quality has gone down because we all have gotten more experience and our standards have gone up.
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I think really hot women are skipping Las Vegas for Dubai these days.

(11-29-2018 02:29 PM)corsega Wrote:  At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.

We still strongly desire the women the Chads, Brads and Jamals get.
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(11-29-2018 02:35 PM)Drazen Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 02:29 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 01:41 PM)Drazen Wrote:  IMO, quality in Vegas has gone way downhill the past few years overall. The hot girls/cool crowd are now traveling internationally more or are going elsewhere for bachelorette parties than in the past. Maybe its just me, but that is what is seems like. I mean there are still very attractive girls, but the cream of the crop isn't going to Vegas as much, its a much more basic "hot girls from the midwest" vibe.

Not saying you're wrong about Vegas (by all accounts I've read/heard you're actually correct), but it's funny to me that literally every thread in this forum says the same thing ("Quality in X city is going down!")

Surely there must be one city where quality is going up... or are all the hot chicks being shipped off to some lesbian island paradise?

At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.

They are all staying in, using apps to hook up with the top 1%

I actually do believe this is true, especially as Generation Z comes of age. Statistics seem to show that they are partying less and less: http://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary....sdM0Cj3o04

I would like to see Vegas club numbers over the last 10-20 years to see for sure. It does seem like nightgame is experiencing a decline.

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(11-29-2018 06:12 PM)Kish Wrote:  I think really hot women are skipping Las Vegas for Dubai these days.

(11-29-2018 02:29 PM)corsega Wrote:  At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.

We still strongly desire the women the Chads, Brads and Jamals get.

Not during pool season. Vegas from early May - late September at the right hotels/pools still brings 9s. Nightclubs Thurs-Sat still bring 8s and 9s. There is no "offseason" but it certainly is slower in the Fall/Winter.
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(11-29-2018 02:29 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 01:41 PM)Drazen Wrote:  IMO, quality in Vegas has gone way downhill the past few years overall. The hot girls/cool crowd are now traveling internationally more or are going elsewhere for bachelorette parties than in the past. Maybe its just me, but that is what is seems like. I mean there are still very attractive girls, but the cream of the crop isn't going to Vegas as much, its a much more basic "hot girls from the midwest" vibe.

Not saying you're wrong about Vegas (by all accounts I've read/heard you're actually correct), but it's funny to me that literally every thread in this forum says the same thing ("Quality in X city is going down!")

Surely there must be one city where quality is going up... or are all the hot chicks being shipped off to some lesbian island paradise?

At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.



Corsega,

How did you find the Mega Clubs XS and Hakassan for doing solo vs wing? Can these venues be worked solo effectively?

What about all these PUAs and bootcamps there, did you notice that in these clubs with lots of PUAs everywhere or not really?
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(12-28-2018 09:14 PM)pros80 Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 02:29 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 01:41 PM)Drazen Wrote:  IMO, quality in Vegas has gone way downhill the past few years overall. The hot girls/cool crowd are now traveling internationally more or are going elsewhere for bachelorette parties than in the past. Maybe its just me, but that is what is seems like. I mean there are still very attractive girls, but the cream of the crop isn't going to Vegas as much, its a much more basic "hot girls from the midwest" vibe.

Not saying you're wrong about Vegas (by all accounts I've read/heard you're actually correct), but it's funny to me that literally every thread in this forum says the same thing ("Quality in X city is going down!")

Surely there must be one city where quality is going up... or are all the hot chicks being shipped off to some lesbian island paradise?

At the end of the day, I think the movement of top-tier girls is a non-issue, because only a few percent of guys on this forum are even high SMV enough to get them.



Corsega,

How did you find the Mega Clubs XS and Hakassan for doing solo vs wing? Can these venues be worked solo effectively?

What about all these PUAs and bootcamps there, did you notice that in these clubs with lots of PUAs everywhere or not really?

Yes, all clubs in Vegas can be worked solo. Solo works best the bigger the venue, so clubs in Vegas are ideal for this.

Yes, there were lots of PUAs in the bigger clubs. I hung out with a guy who assists for RSD Derek, another guy I knew from SF, and one night at Hakkasan most of Vegas Immersion was there.

It isn't a huge factor, there's more than enough girls to go around.

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