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Sorry, that's 3x255 and it's too late to edit. But, effectively, I reset my program.

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That one exercise where you dislocate your shoulder to stretch that shoulders, would that cause damage over long term? I can't quite stretch that much yet, but my shoulder is much better. And when I do mobility work it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much.
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Wrecked my MCL last night playing soccer. It's the second time I've done it to the same leg. F'n brutal.

Looking forward to two weeks on crutches and some physio.

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(05-29-2015 04:44 PM)kbell Wrote:  That one exercise where you dislocate your shoulder to stretch that shoulders, would that cause damage over long term? I can't quite stretch that much yet, but my shoulder is much better. And when I do mobility work it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much.

Are you talking about this?





I've done it, although not regularly. My squat was actually screwing up my shoulder until I went with a thumbless grip. I've seen this move recommended all over the place, never heard of bad things from it, but I'm not that familiar with it other than doing it a few times.

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(06-01-2015 12:31 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  Wrecked my MCL last night playing soccer. It's the second time I've done it to the same leg. F'n brutal.

Looking forward to two weeks on crutches and some physio.

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Ouch. Heal well. I've seen a lot of people with soccer injuries in adult leagues.

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I'm able to get that stretchy band behind my back now. I benched from 0 up to 110 today. It was quite difficult due not be used to having contracted shoulder blades and tight glutes. I also did slow reps which were like 5-10 seconds each. I had a trainer check it out, and it looks like I was shrugging my shoulders up which is probably why it was hard as well. I need to relax neck muscles, (traps?). He also said it looked like I only need to go down to about 1" from the chest, nipple level. The soreness at the time was more around the left elbow. Although now my shoulder feels sore, but not like it used to get.
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Was benching a mere 145 and the pain came back the next two days. So I set up an appointment with a doctor. Orthopedic shoulder doctor which I hope is the right one. Going back to no benching until I get the go ahead to do it again.
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It might be worth going to a sports therapy specialist as well. Worth hunting for, depending on what the shoulder doc says.

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He does have a specialty in sports medicine as well. He looked in shape from his facial portrait, not much facial fat. So probably exercises himself.
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I saw the doctor today. He thinks its a tear of proximal bicep tendon or muscle tear (which attaches to the shoulder). Proximal most likely. The bones were fine via x-ray. He asked to do an MRI but I haven't met my deductible and they run about 1000 bucks. So I passed on that and he said the treatment was the same. No bar benchpressing for 2 months. I can do very light dumbbell bench press if I do a very close together. NO FLYs. Stretches are okay and he suggested more to do.
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(06-01-2015 11:28 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 04:44 PM)kbell Wrote:  That one exercise where you dislocate your shoulder to stretch that shoulders, would that cause damage over long term? I can't quite stretch that much yet, but my shoulder is much better. And when I do mobility work it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much.

Are you talking about this?





I've done it, although not regularly. My squat was actually screwing up my shoulder until I went with a thumbless grip. I've seen this move recommended all over the place, never heard of bad things from it, but I'm not that familiar with it other than doing it a few times.

I was having major problems with my left shoulder over the past 6-8 weeks, so much so that I had to miss 3 weeks in the gym.

I started to do this exercise but it was still hard to move any weight at all. I switched to doing the same exercise but with a resistance band and it's made a huge difference, practically from day 1. It has definitely helped me overcome the injury over the last 2 weeks, I'm now just able to start doing chest movements again.

I will now regularly do rotator cuff exercises so to avoid further problems.
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Anyone use those muscle stimulators? Not to build muscle but to recover? It seems like they have recovery modes which seems odd to me because if you are stimulating a muscle, isn't that working it?

But they look like things I have used before in physical therapy, you would just do it at home.

Just not sure about making the investment.

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(07-03-2015 01:43 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  Anyone use those muscle stimulators? Not to build muscle but to recover? It seems like they have recovery modes which seems odd to me because if you are stimulating a muscle, isn't that working it?

But they look like things I have used before in physical therapy, you would just do it at home.

Just not sure about making the investment.

Thanks.

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I don't own them, but I would use those frequently at my Judo dojo whenever I would injure my muscles/tendons. I can't say 100% that they work, but I did feel as though they sped up recovery.

At least with tendons, I had some finger pain from gripping the Gi too hard and my fingers would be killing me. They would apply this to my forearm and let it do its magic for about 15 minutes and the pain would decrease greatly. I'm talking more than just noticeably. But I had always used them for tendon issues, and while I do not know for sure if it works well with muscles, I know that it is effective for the stuff connected to the muscles for me at least.
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My right knee is not tracking correctly right now after aggressively swimming/diving for 5 days in a row.

Currently I lift 3-5x per week(squat, deadlift, kettlebell work, rowing, etc). Took the last three days off to left my knee heal.

My history - ACL reconstruction in 1997. Partial MCL tear(current). I was scoped a few years back but I am due for another, and get a Synvisc shot too.

Anyone knowledgable that can offer advice about my knee?
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(07-03-2015 01:43 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  Anyone use those muscle stimulators? Not to build muscle but to recover? It seems like they have recovery modes which seems odd to me because if you are stimulating a muscle, isn't that working it?

But they look like things I have used before in physical therapy, you would just do it at home.

Just not sure about making the investment.

Thanks.

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I had one way back when I was in 6th grade. A I crashed a 4wheeler and it pinned my arm down and just sat on my arm for 6 hours till someone came and found me. They gave me one of those shocking things for therapy. I didn't use it like I was supposed to... my friends would come over and we would put it on out cheeks and it would make our mouths open. Then I put it on my balls one time and it just hurt a lot :/

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(07-03-2015 01:34 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  Then I put it on my balls one time and it just hurt a lot :/

Well that was my area that I was going to put it on, so I guess there is no need to buy it now Big Grin

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(07-03-2015 02:06 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 01:34 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  Then I put it on my balls one time and it just hurt a lot :/

Well that was my area that I was going to put it on, so I guess there is no need to buy it now Big Grin

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I saw the doctor a second time for a follow up. Pain is better, but recently it was aggraveted from doing a resistance tubing arm curl. The doctor sees me for 5 minutes total. Doesn't want to do mri unless I agree to injections (fuck that!). He does schedule me for psychical therapy. He starts asking me a question than when I respond he answer abruptly and goes into another question which is arm related. Not a fan of this faux personal style.

One of my friends at the gym works at a psychial therapy place as a second job. He said this place was good because they check for muscle imbalances and other issues which the others I don't think they do. Will start that up Sept 2, twice a week. Than see the impersonal doctor in 2 months.
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(08-17-2015 06:36 PM)kbell Wrote:  I saw the doctor a second time for a follow up. Pain is better, but recently it was aggraveted from doing a resistance tubing arm curl. The doctor sees me for 5 minutes total. Doesn't want to do mri unless I agree to injections (fuck that!). He does schedule me for psychical therapy. He starts asking me a question than when I respond he answer abruptly and goes into another question which is arm related. Not a fan of this faux personal style.

One of my friends at the gym works at a psychial therapy place as a second job. He said this place was good because they check for muscle imbalances and other issues which the others I don't think they do. Will start that up Sept 2, twice a week. Than see the impersonal doctor in 2 months.

How has that worked out kbell?

I started seeing a PT after seeing a specialist doctor to address lower back pain. Doc doesn't think it was serious. PT has been helping, almost immediately. Have a bias to one side that seems to be resolving itself, quickly. Pain turned to soreness which is now gone.

Strangely, one PT said don't do deadlifts without giving a good reason. Never seriously injured myself doing it. Squats have given me much more trouble. Other PT didn't seem to think it was a big deal. Doc didn't either. My doctor just said to not do crossfit because he's seen so many disc and other injuries from crossfitters. I had a good chuckle from that one.

On another note, for programming:

I think at a certain point that the 5x5 stronglifts or madcow just becomes too much. I was hitting squats 3x a week, once light, and deadlifting heavy every week. I have since changed to a 5-3-1 program. I'll see how it is in a few months, but doing this and adding in 2-3 accessory movements after the main lift 4x a week feels great. I feel like I'm getting much more variety on my lifts. I'm also hoping to push through my bench plateau. I was able to advance beyond 225 by getting out of the 5x5 madcow program and changing my lifts to a quicker ramp. That spurred me to try something different.

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Still not fully healed. I may go to a different doctor soon. Tricep kickbacks recently aggravated it. It will probably will be raging tomorrow after all of the shoveling I have to do. I think squats will be the first compound I can reintroduce, goblets. I started taking collagen supplements to see if that heels the inflammation better.
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(01-22-2016 08:56 PM)kbell Wrote:  Still not fully healed. I may go to a different doctor soon. Tricep kickbacks recently aggravated it. It will probably will be raging tomorrow after all of the shoveling I have to do. I think squats will be the first compound I can reintroduce, goblets. I started taking collagen supplements to see if that heels the inflammation better.

Ouch. Another doctor may be the key. 6 months seems like a long time.

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I set up an appointment for next week with a new doctor. Hopefully he will give me a better idea what I need to do. In the mean time I'm stopping arm workouts and heavy rows for the next two weeks to give the tendon some unimpeded recovery time. Both trigger the tendon inflammation but not like chest workouts do.
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I dropped a light snatch(40kg) on my lower back yesterday.

Still hurts and I have a lump in the area hopefully it goes away with some home treatment if not I'm going to have to visit the doctor.

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(08-17-2015 06:36 PM)kbell Wrote:  I saw the doctor a second time for a follow up. Pain is better, but recently it was aggraveted from doing a resistance tubing arm curl. The doctor sees me for 5 minutes total. Doesn't want to do mri unless I agree to injections (fuck that!). He does schedule me for psychical therapy. He starts asking me a question than when I respond he answer abruptly and goes into another question which is arm related. Not a fan of this faux personal style.

One of my friends at the gym works at a psychial therapy place as a second job. He said this place was good because they check for muscle imbalances and other issues which the others I don't think they do. Will start that up Sept 2, twice a week. Than see the impersonal doctor in 2 months.

Is the injection something with dye so they can see in the MRI better or some kind of treatment? The reason being, I fucked up my shoulder badly a couple years ago, it healed after 5-6 months, then a year later I hurt it again but it didn't get better. I finally had an MRI and there was nothing on it, it was all scar tissue at that point. The dye in the MRI is to see if something was injured but healed over.

If you get an MRI, get one with dye since you injured it a long time ago and its healed over with scar tissue, just not correctly. But I explained the injury clearly and when it happened I heard a *pop* sound and something tore. Doctor said it was an obvious tear and surgery was only thing that would help it. Now that I think about it, he did mention, oh we can give you some injection for pain management, etc, and can see if you need surgery. But I knew I needed surgery because it had been years since the original injury and I had been suffering through it with workouts for years.

I tore a ligament that connects my chest to my shoulder and it was terrible sleeping, exercising, etc.

Just something to consider.
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After the surgery,did it heal quickly and completely?
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