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RE: Is it beta to hate women?
(08-11-2015 12:54 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  rudeBoy - thanks for continuing to follow up your thread a couple months after posting it, not everyone does that but they should

I agree with the earlier post about not getting locked up in self-destructive thoughts. I think you are probably in some kind of phase and I suggest that you think about why you are in that phase and what you need to do to get out of it.

If you are in a good place in life and you are getting laid then why are you so worried about this? Do you expect all your happiness in life to come from women? If not, then what is it that is keeping these negative thoughts in the forefront of your mind?

It seems to me that there must be something more going on. Perhaps you don't feel you are successful with women although you claim to be successful. Perhaps you have a lot of anger about something on a deeper level and you are channeling that negativity towards all women.

Check out this post on Roosh's blog especially the last 3 paragraphs.

i'm currently at fatigue/acceptance.
08-21-2015 01:38 PM
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RE: Is it beta to hate women?
(06-30-2015 11:46 AM)Don Wrote:  I think we all go through stages, at least I know I did. It's hard not to hate women, most of them are just plain terrible people, I don't think anyone can argue with that. Imagine growing up having hoards of people do anything for your approval: it inflates your ego, it makes you feel superior to everybody and package that with no physical repercussions for your behavior..what you get is a bitch, and this is the reality of the environment that shapes most women of today, from America to Romania.

I think as long as you continue working on yourself and on your game, you will go over it, even if it doesn't seem like it right now. Every interaction with women is an experience, which in turn shapes your consciousness and conditions you based on the results. RSD people always talk about "reference experiences'. I will use this analogy: Think about when you first stepped foot into a club, odds are you felt insecure and a bit overpowered by the environment. Now if that night some dude would of happened to get a grudge on your and say hit you, now you will have a very grim outlook on clubbing, you are biased, you will think that "clubs are dangerous" and stuff like that. But if you were to go out 500 more times you would see that stuff like that rarely happens and you can have fun..that's because you gained more reference experiences, you can now see the whole picture, not only the small part of when you got unlucky.

Maybe you had bad experiences with women until this point. Don't dwell over whether this makes you beta or not, instead, try and change if it bothers you. Fact is the large majority of attractive women today have become nothing more than cum dumpsters - primarily because of their attitudes. I don't think fucking tons of them can kill the frustration we sometimes get from their behavior. I know that I personally feel like killing a litter of kittens after running into a few rotten ones, so let's stop acting like it's ridiculous to go through a stage in which women don't seem like sunshine and rainbows. Feminism, white knighting and social media changed the game a lot, and not for the better.

Everybody talks about accepting women for what they are, but I think it's more about also accepting who you are, including the fact that you haven't had much reason to trust and love women. If you accept that fact and move forward you might just find one that will change that.

Excellent advice Don. Thanks.
11-03-2015 02:57 PM
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RE: Is it beta to hate women?
Most people become red pill because they love women too much. Not because they hate them. What they hate is the attitude they have. The way they are ruining their own lives. Have no understanding of the decisions they make. That, more than anything else is disappointment.

I think collectively we all want the best for women but it drives you crazy just how badly they behave. You would feel the same way about a kid walking the path of self destruction. You love them but you wish they would get their shit together.
11-04-2015 07:53 AM
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(08-06-2015 09:35 AM)Cobra Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 06:33 AM)rudeBoy Wrote:  
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(06-11-2015 07:53 PM)rudeBoy Wrote:  So these last years I've been swallowing the redpill and look back and ponder on how women have affected my life. They've done considerable emotional damage to the point to even being around them makes me kind of sick. I have sex and I'm out the door. I can't stand to be around them for more than an hour. Now, initially I thought this behavior was 'alpha' but is it?

I think it is beta to just hate them or am I being too hard on myself, or maybe I'm just playing the victim.

have you had a girlfriend before OP? how many girls have you slept with by now?

In the 20s. Longest relationship was 6 months. My goal was to double/triple that number in the last 2 years but I'm training to be a Nuclear Operator for the Navy so those 12 hour work days mitigate my ability to go out and meet women.

I just realized something. You're training now but aren't you going to be stationed on a surface ship or submarine?

I don't think it'll be any easier approaching women in the middle of the ocean where there are none.

Although you will likely visit some decent ports where there are sweet women that will suck the hate out of you, maybe even literally.

That's the goal, lol. I deploy in a couple of days.
11-04-2015 08:22 AM
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(08-11-2015 12:54 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  rudeBoy - thanks for continuing to follow up your thread a couple months after posting it, not everyone does that but they should

I agree with the earlier post about not getting locked up in self-destructive thoughts. I think you are probably in some kind of phase and I suggest that you think about why you are in that phase and what you need to do to get out of it.

If you are in a good place in life and you are getting laid then why are you so worried about this? Do you expect all your happiness in life to come from women? If not, then what is it that is keeping these negative thoughts in the forefront of your mind?

It seems to me that there must be something more going on. Perhaps you don't feel you are successful with women although you claim to be successful. Perhaps you have a lot of anger about something on a deeper level and you are channeling that negativity towards all women.

Check out this post on Roosh's blog especially the last 3 paragraphs.

Definitely something deeper. I'm lucky to have natural game where I attract girls with who I am. (I walk around like I am a celebrity, and always socially engineer the situation to stand out and increase my attractiveness or whatever). I just feel like this is the final thing holding me back to becoming a legend. To becoming the man I always wanted to be.

Or maybe I'm having trouble with accepting female nature.
11-04-2015 08:29 AM
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RE: Is it beta to hate women?
It is beta both to hate and worship women.

No one respects a male pussyknight who just write articles in some liberal paper about how women are superior and how men needs to learn from women.

The ideal is somewhere in the middle. There are some women I hate and some men I hate and some women I love and some men I love or like very much (father, close friends).
09-07-2019 03:41 PM
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What doesn't impact me directly can be ignored. The problem is that the cultural landscape is becoming actively hostile towards straight (white) males and it's feeling like the walls slowly closing in. This is driven by nth wave feminism (aka sjws) of which I'd say the vast majority of women of bangable age belong to varying degrees of loyalty, everything from your fat green haired radical to women mindlessly buying into your Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande narcissistic anti-slut-shaming swill. I feel we're on slippery slope right now with few signs of relief. I can't even escape this in entertainment where we're now going to endure constant lecturing (like what's in store for MCU phase 4). I haven't seen the Dave Chapelle special but that's like the only sign this might be a fad that will peak and ebb like most social movements (yippies, hippies, etc...).

I don't want to overstate things but being straight right now feels sort of like being a Jew in the mid 30s. You go through these mindgames thinking "maybe this will pass. It surely can't get worse" and yet it does and it becomes harder and harder to passively hope the clouds will fade.

The end result of this is it saps my motivation to pursue women because I feel like I'd be walking through a consent-minefield and that juice ain't worth the squeeze.

I've got to imagine this phenomenon was a factor in Roosh's change of direction. A year ago people in the #MeToo thread were saying that game would act as a shield of invulnerability. I don't think that attitude is as universal anymore. Regret is all a woman needs to retroactively destroy a man's life now with no statute of limitation. How can you really enjoy being with a woman if you think no matter how happy she seems in the moment she could engage in revisionist history at any time down the road and ruin your life via social media?

So this state of affairs goes far beyond accepting the reality of baseline hypergamy.
09-07-2019 04:02 PM
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(09-07-2019 04:02 PM)questor70 Wrote:  What doesn't impact me directly can be ignored. The problem is that the cultural landscape is becoming actively hostile towards straight (white) males and it's feeling like the walls slowly closing in. This is driven by nth wave feminism (aka sjws) of which I'd say the vast majority of women of bangable age belong to varying degrees of loyalty, everything from your fat green haired radical to women mindlessly buying into your Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande narcissistic anti-slut-shaming swill. I feel we're on slippery slope right now with few signs of relief. I can't even escape this in entertainment where we're now going to endure constant lecturing (like what's in store for MCU phase 4). I haven't seen the Dave Chapelle special but that's like the only sign this might be a fad that will peak and ebb like most social movements (yippies, hippies, etc...).

I don't want to overstate things but being straight right now feels sort of like being a Jew in the mid 30s. You go through these mindgames thinking "maybe this will pass. It surely can't get worse" and yet it does and it becomes harder and harder to passively hope the clouds will fade.

The end result of this is it saps my motivation to pursue women because I feel like I'd be walking through a consent-minefield and that juice ain't worth the squeeze.

I've got to imagine this phenomenon was a factor in Roosh's change of direction. A year ago people in the #MeToo thread were saying that game would act as a shield of invulnerability. I don't think that attitude is as universal anymore. Regret is all a woman needs to retroactively destroy a man's life now with no statute of limitation. How can you really enjoy being with a woman if you think no matter how happy she seems in the moment she could engage in revisionist history at any time down the road and ruin your life via social media?

So this state of affairs goes far beyond accepting the reality of baseline hypergamy.

The "just be alpha and you will keep your woman" is bullsh*t indeed. Brad Pitt and other men that are considered very popular among women still got screwed over by their wifes.
09-07-2019 04:27 PM
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