Post: #1

I've recently started fucking a girl who is a functioning alcoholic (she sneaked vodka into the movies the first night we went out I touched on this near the end of this article: http://www.returnofkings.com/64057/new-m...-like-that) so it's safe to say that Jennifer won't elevate past FWB status.

Since the start of our fuck fests, yours truly is laying down some serious D and as a result, this chick brings me dinner, makes me breakfast in the morning, and even brings me a pack of cigarettes (we meet every Friday night).

She comes over, she makes dinner, we fuck, we drink, fuck some more, then she makes me breakfast in the morning and is out the door literally within minutes of finishing cooking me breakfast. The situation couldn't be any sweeter and as you can see, she just about worships me and is always worried she is inadequate and all I do is fuck her brains out every Friday night...nothing more.


This past weekend, however, I added another chick to my roster, Michelle. I fucked her, Michelle, on Saturday night but the sex was lack luster. There was nothing wrong with her (great body, great head) but I was already spent on account of the previous night's sex-capades with Jennifer, getting maybe a couple hours of sleep, and a busy Saturday which didn't allow me to catch up on rest.

I couldn't cum while fucking Michelle because I was running on fumes at this point . This worked to my advantage because I told her I didn't cum (I said something to the effect of "I guess he doesn't like you") which sent her hamster into a tail spin grasping for straws to validate her sexual allure even after she left my place (as you can see in the below text exchange). She tried the typical naked picture beta bait to get validation but I ignored her feeble, predictable attempt at getting me to fawn over her. This made it child's play to set up another meeting which she gladly accepted to "show me what's really up." Standard game.

I set up the meeting with Michelle for Friday night so as to not empty the proverbial tank the night before with Jennifer. This effectively switched their slots...at least for this weekend.

I've got more than enough sexual equity with Jennifer to have an "off night" and still have her poonani aching for more of the pipe so I let her know our next tryst would be a day later than normal. The text conversation was as follows:

Now this surprised me a little bit because I fully expected her to comply without hesitation. But as you can see, her alcoholism seems to win out as she gets sloshed on Saturdays and expresses as much with her "party" excuse (probably why she leaves my place so early so she can go home and hit the bottle asap).

The sex with Jennifer is awesome to be sure but I wasn't about to cave in and switch them back for 2 reasons: 1) I'm trying to get Michelle addicted to me which requires a full tank (read: heavy balls) and 2) sticking to your guns and making the girl adjust to your schedule is an important part of game. So I kept my cool, didn't sweat it, told her it wasn't a big deal, and let her hamster spin for a bit. Here's what happened after I let her stew for a while:

...and that was all she wrote.

What allowed me to be nonchalant about missing a day was the all important abundance mentality. This isn't to say that if I didn't have Michelle lined up for Friday night I would accommodate Jennifer's regularly scheduled Saturday drinking binge. But knowing I was already getting ass the night before made it a hell of a lot easier to stick to my guns. and Jennifer predictably made the adjustment and decided to come on Saturday anyway.

Keeping "2 in the kitty" as Chateau Heartiste states in his 16 commandments of poon (https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixt...s-of-poon/) makes a man all but impervious to just about anything a woman can throw at you.

Post: #2

but...



Keep pimpin player. Abundance mentality is the absolute trump card. Just about all women have it. It's essentially the key to their success at frustrating the shit out of men who they flake on, don't text back, won't commit to plans with, etc. Options. You need them.

Post: #3

Pimpin seem easy when presented that way

Post: #4

Nice, well played dude.

Post: #5

When a girl's interest level is that high (let alone two or more girls' interest level) that's a player's Utopia. It has to be experienced to be known. Looking forward, the trite adages hold - protect the frame and keep the mystery quotient as high as it is currently.

Post: #6

I dig it, sometimes not cumming will make a girl hamster for sure. She'll double down to make sure she isn't fucking up.

This is why I spin plates, abundance is a great mentality to have. Guys need to learn this, regardless if they're in LTR's or not.

Post: #7

(06-17-2015 10:49 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

but...



Keep pimpin player. Abundance mentality is the absolute trump card. Just about all women have it. It's essentially the key to their success at frustrating the shit out of men who they flake on, don't text back, won't commit to plans with, etc. Options. You need them.

Most men don't understand the concept of abundance mentality until I tell them why 5s and 6s act like they're 9s and 10s, then the light bulb goes off.

Post: #8

(06-18-2015 12:30 AM)TheMan Wrote:  Nice, well played dude.

I'm not fucking this chick until tomorrow night and she's already texting stuff like this:

Post: #9

These are posts from a guy I know on Facebook. He has more than his share of hot women drooling on every post he writes and writing comments in general agreement.

Post: #10

I'm fairly dense, so what is the context of those posts?

Post: #11

I understand the concept of abundance mentality.

But I don't really understand how to 'use it'.

When I first discovered the idea, it made sense, but I lost a lot of girls because I stopped trying very hard as I developed an abundance mentality. I just thought fuck it, I've done most of the work here now, let her see that I'm not desperate or care too much and she'll come to me, theres so many girls anyway. I was meeting new girls all the time, but didn't get anywhere really with most of em.

there are a few girls I'm trying to get out on dates. the last couple days I've been tired and busy and just thought fuck texting em, abundance mentality. But I don't really think this is the best plan to get them out. How do you guys get around this?

Post: #12

I've had something similar. I adopt the abundance mentality, don't end up initiating any (or most) texts, and the girl thinks I am not interested and moves on to other guys (who I assume exhibit abundance, but are more proactive in how they engage with the girl). Would welcome any feedback on this.

Post: #13

(06-22-2015 05:22 AM)studmuffin52 Wrote:  I've had something similar. I adopt the abundance mentality, don't end up initiating any (or most) texts, and the girl thinks I am not interested and moves on to other guys (who I assume exhibit abundance, but are more proactive in how they engage with the girl). Would welcome any feedback on this.

The key is to show interest without showing thirst. For example, a while back there was a girl I texted to go to the movies with me. We'd been out with friends a week or so ago so she hits me with the "we're going with the same cool people as last time right?" This was a clear attempt at trying to keep it a social gathering. Obviously if it's just the two of us she knows what I'm angling for as does every girl.

I responded with: "Nope, going alone." keeping my frame. She expressed a little bit of excitement and agreed to the meet up. The next day she sends me a text: "Hey I'm a little under the weather so I might not make it to the movies with you." This was 4 days before we were supposed to go.

I responded with "Kuu...but if you come with me another time we'll have to go see another movie." This clearly let her know that I was going with or without her. This is the abundance mentality in action. In her mind it I didn't care one way or the other whether she went with me or not. She knew I was interested because I invited her and made it clear that it was going to be just the two of us. But when she deployed the shit-test to gauge my thirst (which she clearly was) I let her know in no uncertain terms that not only was the train leaving the station with or without her, but that if she decided to hop aboard next time there would be a different destination, implying that I wasn't bullshitting.

Long story short she later sent me a text more or less stated that because of Day Quil she'd be able to "rally" and make it with me. The rest is history....

To sum it up, I showed interest by inviting her, didn't show thirst when she tried to make it a group thing, and showed I didn't give a shit whether she came or not by letting her know that if we did reschedule, we'd being seeing a different flick. It's a delicate balance to be sure but with practice it can be done consistently and effectively.

Hope that helps.

Post: #14

It's all fine, but be careful of a woman who seems to be getting too attached or clingy. You must avoid the borderline personality disorder trap at all costs; it is often not apparent what you're getting into until it's too late. It's happened in my life and is usually a misery in the end - frankly, over the top flattery and eagerness to please, in an American woman you don't really know that well, could actually be considered pathological behavior of a kind.

She may love you like you've never been loved, but she can also hate you like you've never been hated.

Post: #15

If you want multiple pops you need to lay off the pizza and alcohol and take some ZMA in the morning with a couple of bananas and you should have more juice for more hoes.

Post: #16

Thanks Sharpshooter.

I think that provides some clarity, but who should be initiating contact via text? If you initiate it and ask her "how things are?" or "what she's up to?", doesn't this imply thirst? It's even worse if she's 19 or so and gives one worded answers, making it hard to have proper conversations.

Post: #17

(06-16-2015 02:02 PM)SharpShooter Wrote:  The situation couldn't be any sweeter and as you can see, she just about worships me and is always worried she is inadequate and all I do is fuck her brains out every Friday night...nothing more.

This is what stuck out to me. Get a girl thinking she is inadequate and the hamster goes into overdrive.

Post: #18

(06-22-2015 09:48 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:02 PM)SharpShooter Wrote:  The situation couldn't be any sweeter and as you can see, she just about worships me and is always worried she is inadequate and all I do is fuck her brains out every Friday night...nothing more.

This is what stuck out to me. Get a girl thinking she is inadequate and the hamster goes into overdrive.

How would one disarm a broad who addresses this?

Straight point blank: "I feel like I'm inadequate/not good enough for you." How to respond in a way that is NOT discouraging but still maintains her desire to work for you?

Post: #19

(06-22-2015 09:30 PM)studmuffin52 Wrote:  Thanks Sharpshooter.

I think that provides some clarity, but who should be initiating contact via text? If you initiate it and ask her "how things are?" or "what she's up to?", doesn't this imply thirst? It's even worse if she's 19 or so and gives one worded answers, making it hard to have proper conversations.

As far as initiation texts go you should be doing this most of the time. The reason for this is that any texting between you and a target should be used strictly for logistical purposes (read: setting up the date).

You're spot on in your assessment of the wannabe ping texts like "how are things?" or "what are you up to?" They both definitely imply thirst because she's getting texts like that all day long anyway.

What you SHOULD be texting are details of setting up the date. For example: "im checking out this xyz spot on Friday night at 8 come with me" is along the lines of what you should be texting. Small talk is for when you're in person, texting is to set up the date.

The day before the meetup shoot her a text that says "see you tomorrow at 7". Don't ask "are we still on for tomorrow night?" or anything to that effect. Assume the sale. If she can't make it she'll tell you....trust me.

The temptation to text her every day is the fear that you'll fall out of her consciousness and she'll forget all about you. Two things: 1) If you arrange a meetup for the next day (the day after at the very latest) she won't forget about you. 2) If she forgets about you or doesn't respond, she wasn't interested in the first place....on to the next target.

I've number closed girls I haven't texted for a week because I wasn't ready to meet up until the next day or that very night. I'll shoot them my "I'm checking out xyz place tonight at 7 come with me" text and I'll get the coy "who is this?" to which I reply "the dashing asshole you gave your number to at the xyz drugstore." 9 times out of 10 she'll already know who you are and will deploy the shit test to gauge your interest and thirst.

When she acknowledges that she "remembers me" my very next text is "I'm checking out xyz place tonight at 7 come with me." If she doesn't want to go she'll tell you. If she does she'll either say she does, or deploy some sort of shit test. Deal with that accordingly, then text "see you there"

Example:

me: i'm checking out xyz place at 7pm come with me
her: who is this
me: the hottie you couldn't wait to give your number to outside of xyz store
her: oh yeah i remeber! how r u?
me: i'm fantastic. xyz place is going to be live. come with me at 7
her: fuck you're pushy lol
me: see you there
AND STOP TEXTING NO MATTER WHAT SHE RESPONDS

That's how it goes. Remember, interest high, thirst low. ONLY use text to set up the date and use your jerkboy charisma to get her vagina buzzing...THAT'S IT. No small talk, no validation seeking on your end. Set up the date, check in the night before, assume the sale, and let the chips fall where they may.

Hope that helps.

Post: #20

(06-25-2015 03:18 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 09:48 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:02 PM)SharpShooter Wrote:  The situation couldn't be any sweeter and as you can see, she just about worships me and is always worried she is inadequate and all I do is fuck her brains out every Friday night...nothing more.

This is what stuck out to me. Get a girl thinking she is inadequate and the hamster goes into overdrive.

How would one disarm a broad who addresses this?

Straight point blank: "I feel like I'm inadequate/not good enough for you." How to respond in a way that is NOT discouraging but still maintains her desire to work for you?

Good question. Here's the answer:

A text I sent to one of my plates in this post who wanted kudos on her blowjob skills (which, by the way, are fucking awesome): "So long as you bring your A-game, it should be better than it was tonight" or something to that effect.

First off, letting her know that there will be a next time tells her that she's adequate enough to get a second tryout. Don't worry about her "missing" the fact that you're letting her come back. Girls never miss these subtle nuances...ever. So while you imply that she's not good enough, the fact that you're angling for another meetup will not be lost on her.

Secondly, now that she knows that she's been granted another opportunity to please you, tell her something along the lines of my "bring your A-game next time" comment. This lets her know that she's going to have to bring it next time if she wants more time with me.

In the texts above, another one of my plates tried to self deprecation in terms of her cooking skills. Now her cooking skills are average at best so she's not bad. But even if she were a culinary genius, I absolutely would not tell her that she were even if I disagreed with her harsh criticism of her own cooking. Chicks get enough praise in their daily lives....I'm not throwing anymore logs on that fire.

The way I responded told her that even if I did agree with her I still keep her around because she sucks a mean cock and she ate it up. I didn't say "yeah your cooking sucks" because then I'd come off like an asshole and she wouldn't cook for me anymore. By the same token I didn't disagree with her either. I simply sidestepped her comment by not addressing it (which will make you an absolute text message rock star btw) and reemphasized her blow job skills are one of the main reasons I let her stick around and she ate it the fuck up.

So the short answer to your question is to not address her self accusation of inadequacy if you see she's fishing for validation. Just mildly compliment her on something you like about her and leave it at that. Don't elaborate. For example:

Her: I'm sorry I looked terrible last night. I'd just come from work!
You: well you more than made up for it with that ass

That lets her know that you may or may not agree with the fact that she did look terrible and that the sexual acts she performed made up for it. Chicks eat that shit up.

Going back to the first situation, where a girl tries to assume she's good at something but is still looking for confirmation from you, again, simply side step her assumption which spins that hamster, and let her know in no uncertain terms that if she tries harder next time you may be impressed. For example:

Her: Well I know my pussy was good because I made you cum
Me: i whacked off after you left but hopefully i won't have to next time

Hamster NUKED. Telling her you jerked off after she left places that seed of doubt in her mind that she wasn't enough which shoots that hamster into orbit. Then you follow it up with teasing her that you hope you don't have to do it next time she leaves your place quite literally compels her to suck and fuck the life out of you next time she's over. The next time she walks through your door she'll be thinking "I'll make sure he can't get a boner for a week" and proceed to perform every unspeakable act to completely drain your balls.

So handle each situation accordingly but never placate their attempt at validation. Always side step it (by not directly addressing it) and spin that hamster wheel. Works every time.

Post: #21

From now on, before I respond to any text or shit-test, I will pause and think "WWSSD?"

What Would SharpShooter Do?

Post: #22

(06-26-2015 08:55 AM)Aenigmarius Wrote:  From now on, before I respond to any text or shit-test, I will pause and think "WWSSD?"

What Would SharpShooter Do?

Ha ha....good plan....

Post: #23

(06-26-2015 08:34 AM)SharpShooter Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 03:18 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 09:48 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:02 PM)SharpShooter Wrote:  The situation couldn't be any sweeter and as you can see, she just about worships me and is always worried she is inadequate and all I do is fuck her brains out every Friday night...nothing more.

This is what stuck out to me. Get a girl thinking she is inadequate and the hamster goes into overdrive.

How would one disarm a broad who addresses this?

Straight point blank: "I feel like I'm inadequate/not good enough for you." How to respond in a way that is NOT discouraging but still maintains her desire to work for you?

Good question. Here's the answer:

A text I sent to one of my plates in this post who wanted kudos on her blowjob skills (which, by the way, are fucking awesome): "So long as you bring your A-game, it should be better than it was tonight" or something to that effect.

First off, letting her know that there will be a next time tells her that she's adequate enough to get a second tryout. Don't worry about her "missing" the fact that you're letting her come back. Girls never miss these subtle nuances...ever. So while you imply that she's not good enough, the fact that you're angling for another meetup will not be lost on her.

Secondly, now that she knows that she's been granted another opportunity to please you, tell her something along the lines of my "bring your A-game next time" comment. This lets her know that she's going to have to bring it next time if she wants more time with me.

In the texts above, another one of my plates tried to self deprecation in terms of her cooking skills. Now her cooking skills are average at best so she's not bad. But even if she were a culinary genius, I absolutely would not tell her that she were even if I disagreed with her harsh criticism of her own cooking. Chicks get enough praise in their daily lives....I'm not throwing anymore logs on that fire.

The way I responded told her that even if I did agree with her I still keep her around because she sucks a mean cock and she ate it up. I didn't say "yeah your cooking sucks" because then I'd come off like an asshole and she wouldn't cook for me anymore. By the same token I didn't disagree with her either. I simply sidestepped her comment by not addressing it (which will make you an absolute text message rock star btw) and reemphasized her blow job skills are one of the main reasons I let her stick around and she ate it the fuck up.

So the short answer to your question is to not address her self accusation of inadequacy if you see she's fishing for validation. Just mildly compliment her on something you like about her and leave it at that. Don't elaborate. For example:

Her: I'm sorry I looked terrible last night. I'd just come from work!
You: well you more than made up for it with that ass

That lets her know that you may or may not agree with the fact that she did look terrible and that the sexual acts she performed made up for it. Chicks eat that shit up.

Going back to the first situation, where a girl tries to assume she's good at something but is still looking for confirmation from you, again, simply side step her assumption which spins that hamster, and let her know in no uncertain terms that if she tries harder next time you may be impressed. For example:

Her: Well I know my pussy was good because I made you cum
Me: i whacked off after you left but hopefully i won't have to next time

Hamster NUKED. Telling her you jerked off after she left places that seed of doubt in her mind that she wasn't enough which shoots that hamster into orbit. Then you follow it up with teasing her that you hope you don't have to do it next time she leaves your place quite literally compels her to suck and fuck the life out of you next time she's over. The next time she walks through your door she'll be thinking "I'll make sure he can't get a boner for a week" and proceed to perform every unspeakable act to completely drain your balls.

So handle each situation accordingly but never placate their attempt at validation. Always side step it (by not directly addressing it) and spin that hamster wheel. Works every time.

This is all well and good when it comes to playful dialogue you can redirect etc., but in all of that you did not answer my question. Let me repeat:

How would you respond to a girl directly addressing that she does not feel adequate/good enough for you. Example: "I feel like I'm not good enough for you."

Post: #24

(06-26-2015 10:54 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 08:34 AM)SharpShooter Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 03:18 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 09:48 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:02 PM)SharpShooter Wrote:  The situation couldn't be any sweeter and as you can see, she just about worships me and is always worried she is inadequate and all I do is fuck her brains out every Friday night...nothing more.

This is what stuck out to me. Get a girl thinking she is inadequate and the hamster goes into overdrive.

How would one disarm a broad who addresses this?

Straight point blank: "I feel like I'm inadequate/not good enough for you." How to respond in a way that is NOT discouraging but still maintains her desire to work for you?

Good question. Here's the answer:

A text I sent to one of my plates in this post who wanted kudos on her blowjob skills (which, by the way, are fucking awesome): "So long as you bring your A-game, it should be better than it was tonight" or something to that effect.

First off, letting her know that there will be a next time tells her that she's adequate enough to get a second tryout. Don't worry about her "missing" the fact that you're letting her come back. Girls never miss these subtle nuances...ever. So while you imply that she's not good enough, the fact that you're angling for another meetup will not be lost on her.

Secondly, now that she knows that she's been granted another opportunity to please you, tell her something along the lines of my "bring your A-game next time" comment. This lets her know that she's going to have to bring it next time if she wants more time with me.

In the texts above, another one of my plates tried to self deprecation in terms of her cooking skills. Now her cooking skills are average at best so she's not bad. But even if she were a culinary genius, I absolutely would not tell her that she were even if I disagreed with her harsh criticism of her own cooking. Chicks get enough praise in their daily lives....I'm not throwing anymore logs on that fire.

The way I responded told her that even if I did agree with her I still keep her around because she sucks a mean cock and she ate it up. I didn't say "yeah your cooking sucks" because then I'd come off like an asshole and she wouldn't cook for me anymore. By the same token I didn't disagree with her either. I simply sidestepped her comment by not addressing it (which will make you an absolute text message rock star btw) and reemphasized her blow job skills are one of the main reasons I let her stick around and she ate it the fuck up.

So the short answer to your question is to not address her self accusation of inadequacy if you see she's fishing for validation. Just mildly compliment her on something you like about her and leave it at that. Don't elaborate. For example:

Her: I'm sorry I looked terrible last night. I'd just come from work!
You: well you more than made up for it with that ass

That lets her know that you may or may not agree with the fact that she did look terrible and that the sexual acts she performed made up for it. Chicks eat that shit up.

Going back to the first situation, where a girl tries to assume she's good at something but is still looking for confirmation from you, again, simply side step her assumption which spins that hamster, and let her know in no uncertain terms that if she tries harder next time you may be impressed. For example:

Her: Well I know my pussy was good because I made you cum
Me: i whacked off after you left but hopefully i won't have to next time

Hamster NUKED. Telling her you jerked off after she left places that seed of doubt in her mind that she wasn't enough which shoots that hamster into orbit. Then you follow it up with teasing her that you hope you don't have to do it next time she leaves your place quite literally compels her to suck and fuck the life out of you next time she's over. The next time she walks through your door she'll be thinking "I'll make sure he can't get a boner for a week" and proceed to perform every unspeakable act to completely drain your balls.

So handle each situation accordingly but never placate their attempt at validation. Always side step it (by not directly addressing it) and spin that hamster wheel. Works every time.

This is all well and good when it comes to playful dialogue you can redirect etc., but in all of that you did not answer my question. Let me repeat:

How would you respond to a girl directly addressing that she does not feel adequate/good enough for you. Example: "I feel like I'm not good enough for you."

If she says that or anything like that just reply "you'll get there one of these days "

Post: #25

(06-18-2015 01:44 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I dig it, sometimes not cumming will make a girl hamster for sure. She'll double down to make sure she isn't fucking up.

This is why I spin plates, abundance is a great mentality to have. Guys need to learn this, regardless if they're in LTR's or not.

It's really amazing how well not cumming, and making them sleep elsewhere will work.

I don't think you can be alpha without abundance.