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No action? No real announcement?
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Hopefully, this is the last chance he's giving them before dropping the nuke of having the military do it.

Needless to say Schumer's on with his rebuttal right now belittling Trump's speech and the need for a wall in his smarmy, creepy, shoe-salesman way

Prediction: The Dems won't budge an inch.

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LOL these two look like fucking psychos (which they are)
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(01-08-2019 09:12 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Well that was a big old nothing burger.

Using those facts and human empathy isn't going to swing anyone on the left.

The left will double down and "Reee" about Illegals and their plights, not Americans.

True. Was hoping for an announcement of something big to happen, not just more talk.
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(01-08-2019 09:15 PM)robreke Wrote:  Hopefully, this is the last chance he's giving them before dropping the nuke of having the military do it.

Needless to say Schumer's on with his rebuttal right now belittling Trump's speech and the need for a wall in his smarmy, creepy, shoe-salesman way

Prediction: The Dems won't budge an inch.

That what Trump is hoping for. He told the country we have crisis and put the ball in the Dem's court. Once they reject a compromise again, National Emergency will be declare. The speech is just reinforce the normie that he willing to work with democrats.
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Chuck and Nancy look like cult members.
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(01-08-2019 09:19 PM)Thersites Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 09:15 PM)robreke Wrote:  Hopefully, this is the last chance he's giving them before dropping the nuke of having the military do it.

Needless to say Schumer's on with his rebuttal right now belittling Trump's speech and the need for a wall in his smarmy, creepy, shoe-salesman way

Prediction: The Dems won't budge an inch.

That what Trump is hoping for. He told the country we have crisis and put the ball in the Dem's court. Once they reject a compromise again, National Security will be declare. The speech is just reinforce the normie that he willing to work with democrats.

This better be the set up (congress $5Billion) and the delivery (tonight's speech) before he spikes the ball (emergency powers declared).

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I give it a C. lots of coopting leftist talking points but not enough Trump.

Now it isn't a wall. It is a steel slat barrier. . . I was expecting more. I am still on the Trump Train but I'm having a bad meal in the dinning cart.

I wanted him to talk about the opioid crisis and then have him mention his brother (humanizing) then the lost Americans. Then:

"Because Congress will not act, I must. I am declaring a state of emergency and ordering the national guard to the border to build the wall. For the protection of our people and our country. God bless America."
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Laugh

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Yawn. Expect the worst and you're never disappointed. I guess I was to hopeful for a national emergency declaration. What a waste of an Oval Office address. This seems more just about addressing the government shut down (especially from Pelosi and Schumer) and whether or not the spoiled, lazy and whiny federal workers who move papers from one bin to another get their bloated paychecks for fake make work. Pelosi and Schumer truly have no souls. Their only loyalty is to the federal government and the democratic party establishment. Not the common man. Liberal or conservative. They undoubtedly proved that tonight. If any American with a half a brain don't see that, they are truly stupid and dangerous or a liar. It is one of the two.

Action this day, Mr. President. And bring the troops back while you're at it. Between this and seemingly backtracking on Syria...you're pissing people off. Your political opponents are feral rats who call you a motherfucker as they get sworn in. Quit playing nice.

Though the quote about politicians living in mansions behind walls was excellent and one for the history books. That will hopefully sink into the skulls of many; one can only hope.

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(01-08-2019 09:19 PM)rpg Wrote:  Chuck and Nancy look like cult members.

Well ..they are

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Talk about a complete waste, he actually thought with the current media-tech environment he was gonna change anyone’s mind? I guess elections have consequences, trump lost the midterm, now he is a do nothing president till the 2020 campaign. By then his voters will be demoralized and some will opt for the apocalypse option - permanent democratic supermajority.

The only thing he can control now is foreign policy(theoretically). If he was smart he should go full nuclear and pull out immediately. Not give a fuck about the neocons, they are never gonna support him anyways.
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(01-08-2019 09:21 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 09:19 PM)Thersites Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 09:15 PM)robreke Wrote:  Hopefully, this is the last chance he's giving them before dropping the nuke of having the military do it.

Needless to say Schumer's on with his rebuttal right now belittling Trump's speech and the need for a wall in his smarmy, creepy, shoe-salesman way

Prediction: The Dems won't budge an inch.

That what Trump is hoping for. He told the country we have crisis and put the ball in the Dem's court. Once they reject a compromise again, National Security will be declare. The speech is just reinforce the normie that he willing to work with democrats.

This better be the set up (congress $5Billion) and the delivery (tonight's speech) before he spikes the ball (emergency powers declared).

That's my hope at this point.

Before he drops the bomb, he has to appear to have exhausted all other options. During his speech, he said he is meeting with democrats tomorrow. My guess is that will be the "put up or shut up" meeting. I could very easily see him pop out after the meeting with the libtards and just declare the national emergency right there; that's his nature to be spur of the moment and no bullshit. He isn't going to do another oval office speech just to declare a national emergency. He made the case to the dems, to the people in an oval office speech, and it's time to get shit done now.

Sp, we might get our national emergency declaration tomorrow or later this week.

Keep in mind: Trump pretty much HAS to drop the hammer now unless the democrats cave. If Trump doesn't follow through after tonight's speech, he isn't getting re-elected.
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Another nothing burger confirmed.
They need to bring back this commercial and play it everytime Trump doesn't follow through on promises or threats:



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It looks like I won't be celebrating any wailing or gnashing of teeth tonight.

So our position is to continue to negotiate with Congress? There is no state of national emergency?





Well, fortunately we have Jared Kushner on the our side to negotiate with the Democrats. A known advocate of the wall, he is on our side! Here he is visiting the wall:

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It's not like he is a dual citizen of another country and has close ties, including funding of expansionary settlements, to his ethnic nation-state - and that's important. With Jared, its America first and only America. He'd never leave! I wouldn't worry too much about public statements made by his family criticizing America's "closed doors." Jews would never use their influence to promote open borders in their host countries or try to transform the west. Just to reiterate, Jews are not behind open borders - certainly not the 1965 Hart-Cellar Act that opened America to non-European immigration.





Jared and Ivanka are committed to building the wall. This is a great picture of Ivanka visiting the wall:

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It's not like Ivanka has dual citizenship, changed her name, or belongs to a radical, politically active, ethnic and religious group with loyalties to another country. She certainly doesn't attend the Chabbad Lubbavich synagogue in Washington D.C. None of that matters anyway, because Ivanka would never publicly speak out against her fathers immigration policy regarding the southern border. Certainly her Rabbi didn't speak out to morally condemn President Trump's immigration policy.

Fortunately, this administrations opening ask in this negotiation is an ample amount to fund 1954 miles of big beautiful wall. What's that? We are not using the word "wall" anymore? Okay, well we are only asking for $5.7 billion for "physical barrier" and migrant health care. No big deal.

Don't worry, everything will be just fine...it's not like Jared and Ivanka undercut President Trump on DACA. They would never do that. There are no high level discussions about DACA for "physical barrier" money involving Lindsay Graham or Jared Kushner.


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Those who are feeling "let down" by tonight are missing the point. T's brief speech was calm and sensible, which is what he needed it to be; his job was to appeal to Republican-leaning moderates and apolitical viewers, with the ultimate goal being to keep the weak and always hungry to capitulate GOP Congress in line. It's true that the speech was not particularly well delivered; set pieces of this kind are where he's at his worst, relatively speaking, and the nose sniffles in particular have to go. But this was instantly mooted by the spectacularly awful Dem response. In the end all anyone will remember from tonight is Chuck and Nancy looking like a pair of ramshackle two-dimensional ghouls, and that is a very useful -- and accurate -- image for normal people to file away in their minds. Only time will tell where things go from here, but tonight was certainly a modest net win for T, and the listlessness and lack of spirit among the "fact-checking" crew can be easily seen to confirm this.

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The Chuck and Nancy video was one of the creepiest things that I have ever seen. Nancy sounded possessed and Chuck looked like a sexual predator. It was as bad as a South Park parody:




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I just came back from martial arts class. So the consensus is a letdown? Bummer. I'm hoping this is the case where he appears to exhaust all options. On the bright side whoever follow after Trump may decide to go scorched earth since we've seen democracy is a sham. All we can do is prepare and fix our own lives.

(01-08-2019 10:29 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  That's my hope at this point.

Before he drops the bomb, he has to appear to have exhausted all other options. During his speech, he said he is meeting with democrats tomorrow. My guess is that will be the "put up or shut up" meeting. I could very easily see him pop out after the meeting with the libtards and just declare the national emergency right there; that's his nature to be spur of the moment and no bullshit. He isn't going to do another oval office speech just to declare a national emergency. He made the case to the dems, to the people in an oval office speech, and it's time to get shit done now.

Sp, we might get our national emergency declaration tomorrow or later this week.

Keep in mind: Trump pretty much HAS to drop the hammer now unless the democrats cave. If Trump doesn't follow through after tonight's speech, he isn't getting re-elected.

(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote:  For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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(01-08-2019 11:58 PM)durangotang Wrote:  The Chuck and Nancy video was one of the creepiest things that I have ever seen. Nancy sounded possessed and Chuck looked like a sexual predator. It was as bad as a South Park parody:




They even look like the fucking American Gothic painting.

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That was anti-climactic. I was expecting a big announcement. At this point I am too skeptical to role out the three-dimensional chess explanation. I will wait and see. Trump also seems to be flip-flopping on Syria. What ever happened to "speak softly and carry a big stick"? I feel like I am watching two boxers and the Democrats are always landing the punches. I want to see our side land some punches. And not just talk. If Trump is really that powerless, then that is also useful too know, because it shows people that democracy is not what it is represented to be.

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(01-09-2019 12:16 AM)Player_1337 Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 11:58 PM)durangotang Wrote:  The Chuck and Nancy video was one of the creepiest things that I have ever seen. Nancy sounded possessed and Chuck looked like a sexual predator. It was as bad as a South Park parody:




They even look like the fucking American Gothic painting.

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When he mentioned politicians living behind walls, it's another case of "omg I can't believe the madman said/tweeted that" then the pattern continues and another year passes. I still can't tell if he's trolling us or if he's serious.
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At this rate, Texas will turn blue before the “physical barrier” is even finished. Wouldn’t that be ironic.

From dallasnews.com:

Latinos could turn Texas blue in 2020 if enthusiasm holds, some say

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And the surge of Latino voters across the state almost made the difference in the nationally watched Senate race between Beto O’Rourke and Ted Cruz.

That has Latino voter mobilization groups and political experts confident that enthusiasm around the 2018 race, paired with natural population growth, is likely to make Texas a truly competitive state by 2020 and maybe even a shade of blue.

Bernard Fraga, an assistant political science professor at Indiana University, said the Texas population is already that of a purple state and the only reason it isn’t a swing state is that many residents don’t vote. But he said that may have changed this year thanks to Latinos...

Figures for the 2018 midterm are not yet available, but an early analysis from Latino Decisions, a national polling group, found that overall turnout surged in Texas from 2014 to 2018 in heavily Latino counties, especially those along the border:

Dallas County — 86 percent increase
Hidalgo — 105 percent increase
Cameron County — 115 percent increase
El Paso County, O’Rourke’s home county — 168 percent increase...

Election polling by Latino Decisions in Texas found that about 70 percent of Latinos supported Democratic candidates. And a national Associated Press exit poll found that nearly 70 percent of Latinos reported voting Democratic...

A survey released last month by Jolt Initiative, a Texas Latino issues think tank, found that younger Latinos in Texas prioritize health care for all, immigration reform and social justice issues above most issues. Almost a third openly identify as Democrats, though most are independent...

“We didn’t get out as many as I was expecting. This happens after each election,” said Faz-Garza, who was hoping for an O’Rourke victory.

But over the next 10 years, 2 million Latinos will turn 18 in Texas and about 95 percent of them will be eligible to vote...

The four-organization effort — which includes Jolt Texas, Texas Freedom Network, Move Texas and Youth Rise — aims to register 300,000 new, mostly Latino and black voters between 18 to 25 by 2020. This demographic largely tends to favor Democratic, liberal candidates, Tzintzun said.

“I’m excited because Republicans are shaking in their boots," Tzintzun said. "They could lose Texas by 2020 if we’re successful in getting people to turn out and vote. We are determined to make sure that it’s Latinos who change the direction of our country and end the politics of hate.”


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And here I thought it was only a possibility in 2024 or 2028.

The swift construction of a real wall on the Texas border would hopefully have the effect of demoralizing these Latino voter drives. At the end of the day that may only buy a few years without reinterpretation of the 14th amendment (applied retroactively) and mass deportations. After all, according to the above article, "over the next 10 years, 2 million Latinos will turn 18 in Texas and about 95 percent of them will be eligible to vote." In other words, without removing the ability of anchor babies to vote, the fate of Texas is sealed. DACA amnesty would certainly be the nail in the coffin for a Red Texas and thereby America as we know it.

To get a glimpse of our future, we only need to reference the above article "younger Latinos in Texas prioritize health care for all, immigration reform and social justice issues above most issues." These policy positions can be also be found in Queens County, New York which recently elected Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as their representative. As per the article It’s Not Archie Bunker’s District Anymore, the current Queens County district, which once produced a young Donald Trump, is now 46 percent Hispanic, 11 percent black, 16 percent Asian, and 25 percent white. Instead of producing a Donald Trump, we get ICE abolishing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

¡Viva la revolución!




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