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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(01-08-2019 10:29 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 09:21 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 09:19 PM)Thersites Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 09:15 PM)robreke Wrote:  Hopefully, this is the last chance he's giving them before dropping the nuke of having the military do it.

Needless to say Schumer's on with his rebuttal right now belittling Trump's speech and the need for a wall in his smarmy, creepy, shoe-salesman way

Prediction: The Dems won't budge an inch.

That what Trump is hoping for. He told the country we have crisis and put the ball in the Dem's court. Once they reject a compromise again, National Security will be declare. The speech is just reinforce the normie that he willing to work with democrats.

This better be the set up (congress $5Billion) and the delivery (tonight's speech) before he spikes the ball (emergency powers declared).

That's my hope at this point.

Before he drops the bomb, he has to appear to have exhausted all other options. During his speech, he said he is meeting with democrats tomorrow. My guess is that will be the "put up or shut up" meeting. I could very easily see him pop out after the meeting with the libtards and just declare the national emergency right there; that's his nature to be spur of the moment and no bullshit. He isn't going to do another oval office speech just to declare a national emergency. He made the case to the dems, to the people in an oval office speech, and it's time to get shit done now.

Sp, we might get our national emergency declaration tomorrow or later this week.

Keep in mind: Trump pretty much HAS to drop the hammer now unless the democrats cave. If Trump doesn't follow through after tonight's speech, he isn't getting re-elected.

The bold especially.

If the shutdown makes it to Saturday, Trump will “be responsible for the longest government shutdown in history”.

He won’t want that distinction. It’s plausible that he could drop the hammer before then.

#teamwaitandsee

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01-09-2019 08:32 AM
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So what timeline are you guys going with between this speech and emergency powers actually being implemented to get a wall/barrier in place? We are soon entering 2020 election season and the Dems and their base are going to be energised once more to fight their corner and into Trumps corner aswell.

The possibility of a Democratic government would be excellent dread game for many I'm sure but their main front runner is a disaster so theres that.

He needs a couple of big wins. Nobody will give 2 fucks about tax cuts and rallies if big promises are left by the wayside.
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(01-08-2019 11:52 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
Trust the plan.

I'm fine with DACA for the Wall deal. Reason being:
They can have DACA when the wall is done... and when will that be? A project like this has no real date or announcment of completion. It has to be maintained, heightened, expanded and that requires money. Lots more money that dems have to agree to if they ever want that DACA. And when it finally does come, most will have seen the writing on the wall and made their exit, or been escorted to one, by then.

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We will see if he has the balls to do this.

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I didn't really appreciate the "Among those hardest hit, are African Americans and Hispanic Americans." comment at all. I thought we were all Americans in this together? What a pathetic attempt to pander to his not-base. That shit wasn't very presidential in my opinion.

Anyway, I wonder why the Democrats are so insistent on a steel slat barrier instead of a concrete one? Is it because it will be easier to remove when they next take power? Less permanent? Very suspicious to me. Why even concede that aspect to them if we don't have funding yet?
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(01-09-2019 09:02 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 11:52 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
Trust the plan.

I'm fine with DACA for the Wall deal. Reason being:
They can have DACA when the wall is done... and when will that be? A project like this has no real date or announcment of completion. It has to be maintained, heightened, expanded and that requires money. Lots more money that dems have to agree to if they ever want that DACA. And when it finally does come, most will have seen the writing on the wall and made their exit, or been escorted to one, by then.

Absolutely not.

The ONLY thing DACA should be traded for is for EVERYTHING we want (wall, 100% deportation of all illegals, end of chain migration/visa lottery, e-verify, no welfare for illegals, banning of sanctuary anything, etc); including the end of birthright citizenship.

I would even include retroactively stripping voting rights for any technical US citizen born to illegal parents. Including DACA kids. For life.

This is the ONLY way we stop the demographic invasion from taking over. Otherwise, civil war isn't likely of course since once the invasion force has a power/demographic majority, I'm sure they will be reasonable and benevolent towards the once majority (largely-white) native population. All the recent evidence points to our future democrat leaders (enable by foreign invaders) being fair and reasonable, right guys?
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Ginsburg has missed two days now at the bench. I think Ginsburg could already be dead. It reminds me of the movie "El Cid" where in the last scene they put the dead corpse of El Cid on the horse and have him lead the troops into battle. I'm suspicious.

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(01-09-2019 11:33 AM)Once Was Not Wrote:  I didn't really appreciate the "Among those hardest hit, are African Americans and Hispanic Americans." comment at all. I thought we were all Americans in this together? What a pathetic attempt to pander to his not-base. That shit wasn't very presidential in my opinion.

That's just one of a couple things that President Trump does that pisses me off.....we're all Americans at the end of the day. Are there AA and Latino Trump supporters? Yes but they don't support him for the most part. I'll admit I'm wrong if there are insider polls that show otherwise. I found this Vox comment that reflects how President Trump does that whole hey look I have a [minority group] friend, I'm not a racist! He better knows what's at stake for the future.

I'm on team wait and see on this one. Maybe he does want to exhaust his options before he drops the bomb. I was expecting more liberal meltdowns yesterday and we got a dud.

Don't get me wrong, I support President Trump since at bare minimum he's buying us all time. I hope he wins reelection and there's no way I'm voting for a Romney-esque GOP cuck that will negotiate with the left on DACA amnesty. I'm working on my career and continuing to do martial arts to maintain readiness. I hope everybody here is ready in some capacity.

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"Real change will come, not by a POTUS giving a speech, but by a sweeping change to the Mass Mind of North Americans. Real change doesn't come when stock prices are in the ionosphere. Never in history has real change occurred during times of maniacally high optimism and complacency.

Has the trend change begun? Has a long-lived political fad ("e pluribus unum") reached the end of its lifespan? Has the collective trust that witnessed the largest Popular Delusion and Madness of Crowds buildup in debt-treated-as-wealth finally reached apogee and, like a cliff-diver who climbed a Mount Everest from which to begin his dive, we're about to rediscover just how far down is the destination that awaits?

It beats me. Trump was and remains a signal, an indicator that enough people have peeled away from manic optimism/trust to see a course change at the level of POTUS. Are we far better off than would be the case under an HRC Administration? Egads, yes. But Trump isn't and never will be the kind of man who fully grasps what has been squandered, and no one who has to genuflect at the "look how many [fill-in-the-minority] friends I have" alter is qualified to lead the coming revolution.

My $0.02 prediction: In coming years we'll see utter financial catastrophe as hundreds of trillions in "wealth" a trusting people valued in an ocean of IOU's filled during the Bond Bull Market comes crashing down. This will usher in some political changes, but the real fireworks will arrive decades later when, after a period of rising prosperity gives people the hope that all is returning to "normal," that uptrend also collapses and destroys the nascent hope in people's hearts.

That will be when the Yugoslavian War comes to North America."

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(01-09-2019 09:02 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 11:52 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
Trust the plan.

I'm fine with DACA for the Wall deal. Reason being:
They can have DACA when the wall is done... and when will that be? A project like this has no real date or announcment of completion. It has to be maintained, heightened, expanded and that requires money. Lots more money that dems have to agree to if they ever want that DACA. And when it finally does come, most will have seen the writing on the wall and made their exit, or been escorted to one, by then.

If you think getting a wall is difficult, mass deportations would be compared to the holocaust by “the media” on a daily basis. Hysterics and lawsuits would be through the roof. Liberals would be hiding and sheltering entire families like they were trained to do in Diary of Anne Frank or Schindlers List. Assasination attemps would be publicly praised, and immediate impeachment proceedings would commence. It would be 10x more difficult than building a “physical barrier.” The foreign owners of this country do not want that. That is not the plan.

Besides, you can’t rely on 35 million people receiving benefits to self deport. Even if the benefits were withdrawn, would you want to buy a plane ticket back to Somalia, El Salvador, or Haiti? No. Someone with a gun would need to round you up and send you packing. Many of these people have been here for a decade or more with families. Do you see that happening, when we are having such a difficult time even building some steel slats on the border?













Shitholes dude. They will never want to go back to their huts in Africa once they have seen the United States. Also, majority of illegal immigrants are Mexicans who likely have multiple American born children, and under our present erroneous interpretation of the 14th amendment that makes them US citizens and keeps the whole family here. So, even though Mexico is not as bad as these countries and is decent in some areas - they aren’t going back either under the current framework.

I’d rather be far right, than far wrong!
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Good. Maybe now we'll also have to use our own budget wisely instead of bullshit like trying to make healthcare for illegal immigrants available until they turn 26.
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Eh.

I fully support the "African Americans and Latinos" comment. It's absolutely necessary to hammer home again, and again, and again that leftist policies don't do jack shit to help the people they supposedly care about.

Granted most won't listen but you don't need a few. You only need everyone who can be persuaded by this point to at least consider it.
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I know some of us are sounding "black pilled", there is even a thread on that apperently, but it seems like the US is past the point of no return. By that i mean, its destined to become California, without the weather tech companies and hollywood, basically just its socialist policies.

California is becoming a play pen for the rich where high income individuals move in while middle class moves out. It loses people year over year and will likely lose at least one congressional seat in 2020. Those that leave usually go to Nevada, arizona, texas Colorado and elsewhere. Now if the californication(great show) happens across 50 states you will then see a net negative migration for the first time in US.

This process will be slow and will likely occur 13 years after they grant legal status to everyone.

1. Step one grant legal status
2. 5 years to get citizenship.
3. 4 years - 2 elections to turn most states blue
3. 4 more years - Democratic supermajority - split of democrats into "liberals" vs "progressives", i am talking about an official split.


At this point the US duopoly will be finished and everything will be gridlocked.

Meanwhile in 13 years, EU will be history, central eastern europe will still be protected from the influx that plauged the west. Southern europe would have also handled the sitation. France/Germany is still a question mark but still in a better position than the US given the "system of checks and balances" doesn't exist in the same way it does here, meaning a judge in Hawaii can't overturn everything in one night.

Russia would have likely closed the technological mlitary gap though still vastly outnumbered in size, China would have a middle class 3 times the US and getting very aggressive in financing progressive political parties as well as some secessionist movements in order to create chaos in the US.

The US will be a "socialist" country with a dept over 170% of gdp with a very large new demographic that has no interest of assimilating(you will have translators in congress very soon), a divided virtually useless political class with even larger lobbying efforts both internal and external.
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(01-09-2019 12:05 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

AOC -"Everyday immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than native born Americans"

Thats true.

But what she doesn't say is that the majority of "native born Americans" committing crimes are first generation born of immigrants (legal and illegal). Many of the immigrants themselves are hardworking good intention-ed people trying to provide a better life to their children only to see their children squander the parents hard work and sacrifice to become petty criminals and gang bangers

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^ What if you control for race? Can't talk about that one!
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Well Alex Jones has gone fully volatile worse than the markets of late swinging from I support Trump - to - Trump is like a gelded neutered stallion surrounded by deep staters that pay lip service to his orders then countermand them in the fieid...

Pull out of Syria - ignored

Release FISA docs unredacted - ignored

Secured the Borders and use the Army Corps of Engineers to securely reinforce the borders and POEs - ignored except token reinforcements.

DOJ to prosecute the Globalist Criminal Tools; Clintons, Obamas, Brennan, Comey, Lynch, Clapper, Mueller et. al., all ignored and shut down of the Mueller Vindictive Special Counsel Inquisition and Prosecutorial abuse ignored.

Alex Jones moods swing from the Dark Side - the American Republic is doomed reciting the Above to a Manic "ATTACK and invoke the near dictatorial State of Emergency powers act(s)" and enforce all the above or immediately say Your Fired till you find Real Constitutional America lovers who will follow Patriot Trump's lawful POTUS Emergency Powers Orders both in corrupt DC, Globalist Controlled NYC and along the USA Borders with Black Jack Pershing style forays after border bandits and murderers into Mexico to shut down the Drugs Cartels and Human Trafficking networks and if necessary turn it into the 51st State and enforce Anglo common laws Canadian & American style till Mexico is peaceful and no longer controlled by Chinese Communist Marxist Socialist Agitators trying to throw all the Americas into Chaos in preparation for eventual Chinese Marxist Controlled Invasion - already 400,000 Chinese student Intellectual Property transfer theft and industrial espionage agents embedded as students, grad and undergrad at America's top Ivy League and Tech Universities under close scrutiny and control of their local Chinese Communist Consulate.

Then Jones swings the other way and says there is still hope all is not lost and quotes the Hill:
(Reminds me of many in this RVF Trump thread who are actually very mercurial as well).

Trump says emergency declaration coming without border deal with Dems
BY JORDAN FABIAN - 01/09/19 12:45 PM EST
https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...-with-dems

Donald Trump on Wednesday said he may declare a national emergency to circumvent Congress and build a border wall if spending talks fail, raising the stakes for negotiations set to resume later in the day.

“I think we might work a deal, and if we don’t we might go that route,” Trump told reporters during a bill signing in the Oval Office.

The president said he has the “absolute right” to declare an emergency, even though some legal scholars and Democratic lawmakers say he does not.

Trump added that his “threshold” for declaring a national emergency is if he cannot reach a deal with congressional Democrats, who have rejected his demand for $5.7 billion for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Looks like that Threshold was crossed this afternoon...

The comments come one day after he argued to the nation in a televised addressed that a “humanitarian crisis” caused by drug trafficking and illegal immigration exists on the southern border and his proposed wall is the only thing that can stop it.

The president stopped short of declaring a national emergency, despite the expectation from some lawmakers that he would. But the White House on Wednesday reiterated that the option is still on the table.

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Well...


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The shutdown is pure genius.

The longer he waits, the longer the paper pushers get antsy and begin looking for new work.

If this goes to 2 or even 3 months long, there will be a massive decrease in government workers demanding a paycheck. They'll quit and look for new work.

It puts the Democrats in a tough position because their voting block is getting pinched. Don has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by demanding the wall and refusing to continue.

The only wild card are cuckservatives. If they end up forcing a veto override, we're screwed.
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(01-09-2019 03:57 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  The shutdown is pure genius.

The longer he waits, the longer the paper pushers get antsy and begin looking for new work.

If this goes to 2 or even 3 months long, there will be a massive decrease in government workers demanding a paycheck. They'll quit and look for new work.

It puts the Democrats in a tough position because their voting block is getting pinched. Don has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by demanding the wall and refusing to continue.

The only wild card are cuckservatives. If they end up forcing a veto override, we're screwed.

It’s so genius! 5-d chess! We have all the time in the world to build the wall...err physical barrier.

I’d rather be far right, than far wrong!
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Take care of those titties for me.
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01-09-2019 04:27 PM
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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(01-09-2019 04:13 PM)durangotang Wrote:  It’s so genius! 5-d chess! We have all the time in the world to build the wall...err physical barrier.

If a steel slat barrier/fence (whatever you want to call it) is essentially as effective as a concrete barrier, what exactly is your problem with it? There are all manner of walls/barriers/fences that are effective depending on WHERE they are being installed and WHAT kind of commitment the intruders in that area generally have.

What matters is not a particular type of barrier, what matters is if it gets built and if it's effective.

Quit this "oh it's not a wall" crying. If the Border Patrol considers it effective (and it is), it could have rainbows and unicorns on it for all I care.

Your negativity and willingness to ridicule a man who has done far, far, far more than anyone thought possible before he was even a presidential candidate is disgusting.

Speak about things that are important, and speak with sound arguments, not sarcasm and whining. This passive aggressiveness is feminine and weak-minded.

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