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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(01-09-2019 03:44 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  Well...


Art of the deal.

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RE: The Donald Trump thread
I don't care about the wall. Trump starving the government beast is the best thing possible.

He still gets my vote.
01-09-2019 04:53 PM
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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(01-09-2019 02:51 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Eh.

I fully support the "African Americans and Latinos" comment. It's absolutely necessary to hammer home again, and again, and again that leftist policies don't do jack shit to help the people they supposedly care about.

Granted most won't listen but you don't need a few. You only need everyone who can be persuaded by this point to at least consider it.

The unsecured border is affecting and hurting all of us. An address to the entire nation isn't the time to start singling out protected classes, that's not a unifying message. It's insulting to those who aren't black or brown and have lost loved ones to gang violence, smuggled arms, drugs, and have seen their communities transformed into central america 2.0

But I guess that's what this country is now. A bunch of groups divided by race and other things who have their own interests, goals, and culture. Of course, we wouldn't know if anything was disproportionately affecting Americans of European descent, because it would be racist to acknowledge. Then, and only then, would the generic "My Fellow Americans" suffice.

It's been two elections and no meaningful change in voting habits has occurred. No one is listening, no one is being persuaded, it's just delusional conservatives.
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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(01-09-2019 04:35 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  Your negativity and willingness to ridicule a man who has done far, far, far more than anyone thought possible before he was even a presidential candidate is disgusting.

Second, all the bitching and moaning in this thread is disgusting. I have followed this thread since day one and have read every page.

A common pattern has been faggot concern trolls appearing when things get tense and then leaving when Trump pulls another win. Team wait and see has been racking up a lot more wins than team faggot concern troll.

Keep the emotional outburst to yourself, its embarrassing and makes you look like a fool.

Concerning the wall, not only is steel stronger than concrete and that it was the border agents who requested that they can see through the wall, a steel barrier can also serve as foundation for a solid concrete barrier down the line.

On top of this, Trump has been security the land for the wall while negotiating on its construction. If you understand Trumps strategy then you will know that he would rather walk away from a deal than to sign a shitty deal.

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I hope he doesn't crack at this point.

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RE: The Donald Trump thread
Hungary only put up a chain link wire fence at first.
Yet with armed troops behind the fence, the rapefugees had to move on.
Mean-time :

[Image: wall.png]
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Hungary is not the USA though.
01-09-2019 05:34 PM
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(01-09-2019 05:34 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Hungary is not the USA though.

Sure, larger border for the USA for one.
So overall. Either Trump will "get the deal done" at the end of the day.
Or...
The Cabal is so heavily entrenched, the "Swamp" so deep & full of traitors... That even a Trump like figure won't be able to correct course...
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(01-09-2019 05:28 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Hungary only put up a chain link wire fence at first.
Yet with armed troops behind the fence, the rapefugees had to move on.
Mean-time :

[Image: wall.png]

Ehhhh, how easy would it be to stuff drug packages through those openings? I think I'd prefer solid concrete, especially next to a city where they can do drug drops faster. No visibility through the barrier, harder to coordinate if you're just throwing it over and guessing.

Why do Dems want steel slats so bad? I don't like it.
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(01-09-2019 04:52 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 03:44 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  Well...


Lol. I love how he calls them "Chuck and Nancy". It sounds like a bad sitcom on ABC.

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(01-09-2019 06:03 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 05:28 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Hungary only put up a chain link wire fence at first.
Yet with armed troops behind the fence, the rapefugees had to move on.
Mean-time :

[Image: wall.png]

Ehhhh, how easy would it be to stuff drug packages through those openings? I think I'd prefer solid concrete, especially next to a city where they can do drug drops faster. No visibility through the barrier, harder to coordinate if you're just throwing it over and guessing.

Why do Dems want steel slats so bad? I don't like it.

I dont really give a shit about packages - realistically you cant keep everything out. You could slingshot packages over a concrete barrier. I just want to keep Juanita, her MS 13 boyfriend, and their 6 future kids and all their offspring out.
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(01-09-2019 04:35 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  If a steel slat barrier/fence (whatever you want to call it) is essentially as effective as a concrete barrier, what exactly is your problem with it? There are all manner of walls/barriers/fences that are effective depending on WHERE they are being installed and WHAT kind of commitment the intruders in that area generally have.

What matters is not a particular type of barrier, what matters is if it gets built and if it's effective.

Quit this "oh it's not a wall" crying. If the Border Patrol considers it effective (and it is), it could have rainbows and unicorns on it for all I care.

Your negativity and willingness to ridicule a man who has done far, far, far more than anyone thought possible before he was even a presidential candidate is disgusting.

Speak about things that are important, and speak with sound arguments, not sarcasm and whining. This passive aggressiveness is feminine and weak-minded.

I have done my best to spell out the situation without attacking people. If you want to fight, I can do that too.





And if, by chance I happen to make a smart ass comment to someone with an Israeli flag next to their name who tells us how brilliant it is that Trump didn't declare a national emergency and is prolonging the government shutdown - well then hat's a golden opportunity to attack me. Why would TheBeast1 care about the wall, after all his people have one (and it is very effective)!

(01-09-2019 04:53 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  I don't care about the wall. Trump starving the government beast is the best thing possible.

He still gets my vote.

It's like the script writes itself. Yeah, Trump is really starving the beast. I have an idea, why don't we eliminate the 10 year $38 billion Israeli military aid package?

From the present Goals for 2019 thread:

(12-31-2018 03:41 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Be more Jewish!

I appreciate the honesty.

Edit: Trolling?

(01-09-2019 05:04 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  A common pattern has been faggot concern trolls appearing when things get tense and then leaving when Trump pulls another win. Team wait and see has been racking up a lot more wins than team faggot concern troll.

Keep the emotional outburst to yourself, its embarrassing and makes you look like a fool.

Edit: I falsely assumed @CaptainChardonnay was Israeli on account of his flag and attributed his motive to that here. Redacted.

As for you AneroidOcean, since you actually live here presumably, I could care less if the wall is steel or concrete as long as it serves it's function. I am not a fan of open slats as it wouldn't be effective against drug smuggling, but the idea is growing on me because it will be more difficult for Millennials and Illegals to have their Berlin Wall moment one day. A steel wall would be more difficult to tear down - and that is probably the fate of the wall unless Trump steps up his game and goes after anchor babies and begins deportations. Any permanent effective structure will do and quickly please. Note: I am not a fan of the steel wall pictured below as it's too short, too shallow, and too easily allow would people to hook a rope or rest a ladder on the top.

[Image: wall.png]

No, the reason I keep harping on him not calling it "the wall" is because he is failing to hold frame. He is breaking frame and now won't even call his signature campaign promise by it's own name. Does anyone think that this pivot is psychologically beneficial for the Trump movement? Does anyone think that Democrats are going to budge on the wall because Trump is referring to it as a "physical barrier?" Nobody is fooled. It only increases the likelihood of undesirable compromise for our side because we can't even positively self identify and hold our own frame. This type of attitude certainly isn't how Israel got it's wall - or Hungary for that matter.

In the beginning of Trump's address to the nation, the border situation was framed as a humanitarian crises affecting women and children before he even listed our own interests as Americans - and even then he was careful to assert that blacks and Latino's were most affected. He couldn't even positively assert the identity of all Americans. Stepping into the left's frame like is not how we advance our interests. All we can do is wait and see if Trump actually declares a national emergency to build the wall, if that is even feasible, or too see what kind of crappy deal for a "physical barrier" he get's from Chuck and Nancy and Jared Kushner. Hopefully that deal doesn't include the word DACA.

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Are you seriously calling me Israeli?

Are you seriously saying Trump doesn't know how to hold frame?

Do you seriously think you are more intelligent than Trump?

Keep the emotional outbursts coming, you are digging yourself a deeper hole. I haven't attacked you because you have been around since 2011 and I'm not the type to waste my time arguing on the internet.

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Edit: Thank you @Ball for explaining the Israeli flag trolling situation.

@CaptainChardonnay

Trump is now calling it a physical barrier, steel slats, or border security - not "the wall" much less a "big, beautiful wall." Is that not true?

I never claimed that I am more intelligent than Trump, that is your own straw man.

I understand not wasting your time arguing, but I will defend myself. I never personally attacked you.

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@durangtong

You missed the period where a bunch of members switched their flag to israeli for trolling purposes - assumed protection from the tribe by identifying as an israeli.
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(01-09-2019 04:58 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  [quote='8ball' pid='1919261' dateline='1547077899']
@durangtong

You missed the period where a bunch of members switched their flag to israeli for trolling purposes - assumed protection from the tribe by identifying as an israeli.

Thank you 8ball.

Lol. I wasn't sure. I was seeing so many Israeli flags around here that I thought that might be the case, but I haven't been around enough lately to know. The simple fact that we are at that level as a forum proves the point.

I rescind the accusation of being an Israeli Chardonnay. I stand by the rest of my statements.

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Chardonnay may not be Jewish, but can confirm he sure acts like one.

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(01-09-2019 06:25 PM)durangotang Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:53 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  I don't care about the wall. Trump starving the government beast is the best thing possible.

He still gets my vote.

It's like the script writes itself. Yeah, Trump is really starving the beast. I have an idea, why don't we eliminate the 10 year $38 billion Israeli military aid package?

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(01-09-2019 06:25 PM)durangotang Wrote:  From the present Goals for 2019 thread:

(12-31-2018 03:41 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Be more Jewish!

I appreciate the honesty.

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Just when I'd started wondering if the Magnificent #Basta(rd) had bought himself a one-way ticket on the Vein Pain Train in a lukewarm bathtub somewhere:


Please, please O Lord, let this dude make it to 2020. Laugh
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China now buying US grown rice for the first time ever: https://www.agweb.com/mobile/article/bre...e-from-us/

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(01-09-2019 07:13 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  [Image: BIT4TTM.gif]

It requires too much time on the forum to parse these things and respond to ad hominem attacks.

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Seriously, where do you guys find the time?

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Seems plausible.

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(01-09-2019 07:36 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  
Seems plausible.

I believe the longer this goes the more Dems will get scared and start dealing. Chuck and Nancy had, not one, but two news conferences after Trump gave his last night. It looks like they are feeling the pressure now.

The Republicans are worrisome since they have no backbone. Trump needs to see this thing through or he is toast in 2020. I think he knows it.

Trump also needs to open these negotiations for all the see. Let the press in and record the meetings so everyone can see see what is happening.
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This got a laugh. Do any of you old bastards (like me) remember that tv show V?

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