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Quote:The Pentagon is preparing options to build barriers on the southern border in the event that President Donald Trump declares a national emergency there, the latest indication such a move is gaining traction within the administration.

"The Department of Defense is reviewing available authorities and funding mechanisms to identify options to enable border barrier construction," said Navy Capt. Bill Speaks, a Pentagon spokesman. "As there has not been such a declaration made, it would be inappropriate to comment further on those efforts."

The confirmation of the preparations comes after Trump on Thursday gave his most explicit warning yet that he was considering a declaration of a national emergency as a way of freeing up funds for a border wall if talks with Democrats fail to yield a deal on his signature issue.

Quote:Those funds would come from the Pentagon's budget for construction projects approved by Congress but not yet spent.
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Get it done Donald. Stupid Obama used those powers on the immigration issue, now it’s your play. Make it so the wall can’t be removed for the next irresponsible regime though. I don’t know how that can be done
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That Jim Acosta bit provoked a thought that is a bit redundant here but none the less important.

When I was younger I use to watch shows and movies about dystopian futures and think to myself "Man that would be crazy if people could become that brainwashed and dumb! Thank God we're in America where things are somewhat fair and the rule of law protects us."

I thought that the news was relatively tame and at least somewhat honest. Now I've realized that a majority of people are easily controlled. It has been studied by humans since the dawn of time how to control other members of their tribe and neighboring tribes. It's been refined and perfected in smaller groups to such an extent that people really are as predictable as NPCs.

It's absolutely absurd that people can believe ANYTHING the news can say much less most of it. The amount of contradictions is astronomical never mind even the outright lying and deleting of content.

You know - I probably have the IQ of a potato but I can at least see through that. When I try to explain it to my friends with PhDs I just come to the realization that they are very educated dumb people who lack any sort of awareness of the human condition outside of their specialty.

I don't even know if Trump could have expected such mass hysteria and indoctrination.
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(01-10-2019 03:05 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 02:20 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 01:09 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  ^^ what?! Come on now. Illegal immigration is bullshit, but the vast majority of those border crossers are not criminals. Just poor ass people trying to escape. Ron Unz actually wrote a piece on this recently, about the alt-right vastly exaggerating Mexican crime in the US. Trump has played into that as well, while ignoring the elephant of legal immigration and inner-city (black) crime.

Oh really? If the majority of Mexicans are good, decent people who are just like Americans, the British, French, Germans, Swedes etc then why is Mexico, like most of these countries outside the West, an absolute shit hole with extreme violence and high murder rates?

"Some nice areas" with cartels and corrupt governments doing whatever they like, whenever they like.

Why do areas with large Hispanic populations have problems with gangs, drugs and corruption?

A village, town, city, state and country is made up of its people.

It's the corrupt government they live under. If they were only able to get that corruption off of their backs they would live exactly how modern western nations do.

Who cares that the Middle Eastern, Asian, and White communities in LA are generally nice and pleasant to live in - despite having a shitty, corrupt local government.

The only reason that that the Hispanic neighborhoods in LA are utter shit is because of racism. No other reason - nope nothing to see here folks.

I know you're just saying this to mock the SJW talking points, but you sound a little too much like you believe what you wrote. You have to be a little more over the top so people can tell you're being satirical.

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(01-10-2019 04:58 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  This is all part of the new narrative since T's address.

Up until then, for months, all you heard about the border was a "humanitarian crisis at the border", photos of sad burrito womans, and the latest "CHILDREN ARE DYING" (from parental neglect).

Now that T has said "yeah, there is a humanitarian crisis" suddenly every network is running a story that there is no crisis.


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Lol what is this crazy guy talking about, a crisis?. They know he has flipped it on them and that he could use that rhetoric to declare an emergency, so they have to now say the opposite, no matter how shameless and blatant their actions are.

(For those who didn't get it or didn't like it in his address, this is precisely why T emphasized the bad things happening to women and children etc)

So you get Jim AcostYa filming at the tamest, walled areas of the border "look everything is great at the border, there's even a burger king right over there. No problems".

Even though we're all used to this, it's still amazing how utterly shameless they are and how little think of our intelligence.

It's the new attack line by the media today. What crisis?




Yeah I'm a little confused. I thought we had established concentration camps on the borders and were gassing kids left and right. Now...nothing? Nothing is happening? All a fabrication by Orange Man Bad??? I just can't keep up.
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I remember when Pelosi told the American people that "we have to pass (the obamacare bill) to find out what's in it".

We should build the Wall to see if it works.

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AB did a genius post on this kind of intelligence. While I'm not a super genius by any stretch this explains why the left doesn't or can't pander to me. IOW you can't keep using propaganda on me to hammer away the "fact" that Obama is the first black president (he's mixed) and if you disagree you're a white racist. If republicans had any balls/edge* or basic marketing knowledge it's easy to get people like me to support their causes whole heartedly. All they can do is whore themselves out to the Chamber of Commerce by supporting open borders which in turn stagnate wages. The GOP can get fucked for all I care.

*President Trump was a start as far as I know for this. Hot Trump supporters on Instagram would do more for the young male crowd then another boring million dollar think tank piece.

(01-10-2019 06:28 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  That Jim Acosta bit provoked a thought that is a bit redundant here but none the less important.

When I was younger I use to watch shows and movies about dystopian futures and think to myself "Man that would be crazy if people could become that brainwashed and dumb! Thank God we're in America where things are somewhat fair and the rule of law protects us."

I thought that the news was relatively tame and at least somewhat honest. Now I've realized that a majority of people are easily controlled. It has been studied by humans since the dawn of time how to control other members of their tribe and neighboring tribes. It's been refined and perfected in smaller groups to such an extent that people really are as predictable as NPCs.

It's absolutely absurd that people can believe ANYTHING the news can say much less most of it. The amount of contradictions is astronomical never mind even the outright lying and deleting of content.

You know - I probably have the IQ of a potato but I can at least see through that. When I try to explain it to my friends with PhDs I just come to the realization that they are very educated dumb people who lack any sort of awareness of the human condition outside of their specialty.

I don't even know if Trump could have expected such mass hysteria and indoctrination.

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(08-10-2015 12:42 PM)Gas Wrote:  
(08-10-2015 12:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Days later they are still confused as to what happened:

https://twitter.com/the_conu/status/630792706428674048

Laugh7

Trolling, surely. Nobody can be that fucking dumb.

Being so easily brainwashed by Feminism, their IQ would have to be very low!

So yes... they are really that fucking dumb!

I wrote up a post yesterday answering Glaucon's question of average intelligence, but it ended up too long and I didn't want to derail the thread.

Briefly:

I was theorising to myself and based on my interactions with friends on various tiers of intelligence that you'd need a certain type of midwitted intelligence to create the perfect Marxist Drones. Specifically, 95-115.

Under 90 and the mind can't process abstract concepts easily, so reality remains objective.

Over 120 and independent thought kicks in. Things aren't taken on faith, and observable facts and evidence influence thought. Reality remains objective.

Between 95-115 and you have a type of intelligence that I think of as being 'University Dumb'. It's a desperately-insecure type of intelligence, so needs to 'prove' it is intelligent at every opportunity. I'm sure you've experienced this. This is the Speaking-In-Buzzwords / Correcting Other's Spelling Mistakes set. Thy r th srt wh thnk rmvng vwls mks txt mpssbl t ndrstn rthr thn bcmng mldly-ncnvnnt t rd.

These midwitted minds can be manipulated to believe reality is subjective, not objective. This is why their reporting always lacks accuracy and verisimilitude, and why, by their forties and fifties, feminists are the most miserable creatures alive, when objective reality finally starts to sink in and they realise that everything they were promised by feminism was false and that high-value men aren't attracted to aggressive, masculinised women who don't want children.

It works like this:

85 IQ - 'A man is looking at a woman'. Objective reality.

110 IQ - 'That man is objectifying that woman without her consent and is therefore raping her and should be jailed'. Subjective reality.

135 IQ - 'A man is looking at a woman'. Objective reality.

This is why all my solid, reliable friends fall into either extreme. You can't manipulate the outliers, which is why Fourth Wave Feminists have abandoned and now demonise the working class: their objective reality means they're not good useful idiots. I'm been observing they're beginning to throw Asians (high average IQ) and gay men (self-interested narcissists) under the bus as well.

If these midwits can create a subjective reality where Roosh's speech didn't happen, to the extent of falsifying evidence of failure, then these midwit minds will readily-accept it, and, as such, it's pointless to try to 'prove' anything to them. Complacency over a 'victory' will make them fight less hard next time.

Instead, I believe their Subjective Reality should always be encouraged to be captured and broadcast as their delusional beliefs are the most effective PR we have to sway moderates. To that end, when infiltrating, it's always worth seeding even more extreme subjective beliefs. Don't broadcast your end belief: the trick to subversion is to drop logic breadcrumbs and let them follow and discover the next one through their own free will, so they believe the eventual idea you wanted them to arrive at was their own. This way they'll fight for it harder. The 'Progressive Stack' concept introduced by subversives to destabilise Occupy Wall Street is one of the best examples I've ever seen of this.

If working in tandem or groups, the polarising effect of groupthink will easily pull them in your direction: note the recent woman 'free bleeding' during a marathon, a Four Chan prank that became reality and has repulsed more moderates than any facts and logic presentation that I ever could have given them.

(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote:  For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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Further reason why the media is all about "there is no crisis, what crisis?" now




This is why it was important to first do the presidential address and sell the story of what's really happening at the border. Your average joe is just not informed. By first making the case and stating facts Trump bolsters popular support for taking action.



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Do you think Trump is already campaigning for 2020...?

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(01-10-2019 07:18 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

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Greatest troll ever.

(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote:  For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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(01-10-2019 06:21 PM)Wutang Wrote:  
Quote:Those funds would come from the Pentagon's budget for construction projects approved by Congress but not yet spent.

Motherfuckers can waste it on our wars and supporting "allies" you goddamn better be able it to protect our own borders.

Dem Logic: No more war!

Trump Voter Logic: We agree! Let's pull out of Syria and Afghanistan. We can use the funds to protect our own borders with sensible security for all and be able to manage the refugee influxes at the border.

Dem Logic: Woahhh wait wait a minute walls and borders are immoral! We need to remove Bashar from power still, he's a dictator don't you know!

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How long will the wall take to be built though? Hopefully by the end of his first term to be safe
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Wouldn't it be fantastic if some Democrats were expressing support for a Wall, thereby making Schumer and Pelosi's faces look even more like geriatric ballsacks as they realise their own party members aren't prepared to sacrifice border security just because of the (why the fuck haven't they been branded yet?) two twats' TDS?

To wit, Breitbart:

Quote:Congressional Democrats crack on the wall

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

“Certainly you need barriers and we support barriers,” Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) added.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and Jerry Nadler (D-NY)–the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee–said they would support fencing and barriers where necessary along the border.

Senate Minority Whip Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) says he believes there will be a new barrier along the border in the future.

Rep. Katherine Clark (D-MA), the Vice Chair of the Democrat conference, says that the border would benefit from additional barriers. “You know, I think there are parts of the border that would benefit from repairing fencing and other barricades that already exist there,” she told MSNBC.

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle heat up.

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(01-10-2019 07:58 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  Wouldn't it be fantastic if some Democrats were expressing support for a Wall, thereby making Schumer and Pelosi's faces look even more like geriatric ballsacks as they realise their own party members aren't prepared to sacrifice border security just because of the (why the fuck haven't they been branded yet?) two twats' TDS?

To wit, Breitbart:
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Once again.
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Well, it won't be a big beautiful wall, it'll be a steel slat barrier, with holes in it, but hopefully high enough. We've got barriers on the border now that are more of a wall than that, a full covering. But, I do think we'll get it, I can't imagine Trump is going to cave on this, he's clearly all in. And I will give him a lot of credit for following through on shutting the government down as well as finally pulling out of Syria like he has said multiple times.

The question is if durangotang is right about 5.6 Billion or whatever not being nearly enough to cover the majority of the border. It sure doesn't sound like enough, but I'll have to do my own research, perhaps when we actually have it. Also concerning is why the Dems absolutely insist on steel slats, that cannot be ignored, they always have an ulterior motive. That's how they've lied about securing the border in compromise deals with Republicans for decades...it's all a facade. Still not sure why The President has conceded this aspect to them before we have been given anything on the table.

This is his wheelhouse though, making deals. Hopefully it's a good one.
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For anyone who doesn’t know the joke.

Last year or so someone noticed that Jim Acosta’s tweets sound like a teenager writing in her diary. Eg, “today the president called on Brietbart but wouldn’t call on me.”

So people started responding to Acosta’s tweets with “Dear diary”. It gets under his skin bigly.

Now the president did it. Laugh

The origin of it..

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Good to see Trump is not done for the day.
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(01-10-2019 08:20 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  Well, it won't be a big beautiful wall, it'll be a steel slat barrier, with holes in it, but hopefully high enough. We've got barriers on the border now that are more of a wall than that, a full covering. But, I do think we'll get it, I can't imagine Trump is going to cave on this, he's clearly all in. And I will give him a lot of credit for following through on shutting the government down as well as finally pulling out of Syria like he has said multiple times.

The question is if durangotang is right about 5.6 Billion or whatever not being nearly enough to cover the majority of the border. It sure doesn't sound like enough, but I'll have to do my own research, perhaps when we actually have it. Also concerning is why the Dems absolutely insist on steel slats, that cannot be ignored, they always have an ulterior motive. That's how they've lied about securing the border in compromise deals with Republicans for decades...it's all a facade. Still not sure why The President has conceded this aspect to them before we have been given anything on the table.

In regards to the steel wall, the following article was featured on Drudge today. I can only conclude, based on that article, that the Democrats want a steel structure because they had access to a redacted DHS report that showed all eight prototype walls constructed were vulnerable to breaching. That said, according to the article, the steel bollard design has been internally updated subsequently to require multiple industrial tools to breach.

Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

A photo shows that the steel columns were breached with a common industrial tool.
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The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations.

However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report.

Photos of the breaches were not included in a redacted version of the CBP report, which was first obtained in a Freedom of Information Act Request by San Diego public broadcaster KPBS....

Responding to the picture from the South Lawn of the White House on Thursday morning, Trump claimed "that’s a wall designed by previous administrations."

While it is true that previous administrations used this design, the prototype was built during his administration.

"It's very, very hard — the wall that we are doing is very, very hard to penetrate," Trump said...

"While the design currently being constructed was informed by what we learned in the prototypes, it does not replicate those designs," said Waldman. "The steel bollard design is internally reinforced with materials that require time and multiple industrial tools to breach, thereby providing U.S. Border Patrol agents additional response time to affect a successful law enforcement resolution. In the event that one of the steel bollards becomes damaged, it is quick and cost-effective to repair.


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Also, for those so inclined Trump addresses DACA directly at 7:00 in the following video:





(01-10-2019 08:20 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  This is his wheelhouse though, making deals. Hopefully it's a good one.

I agree, hopefully he gets a good deal and reinforced slats. We'll find out soon enough.

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From Trump's visit to Texas today with him sitting in front of a pile of guns and drugs....and a huge bag of cash Laugh


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Full video explaing the pile:

(Camera pans rights @ minute 3:11, giving a better view of the big bag of cash)



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(01-10-2019 12:26 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Well yeah, most of the Mexicans coming into the country are rapists and drug dealers. It’s an uncomfortable fact that a lot of Americans don’t want to hear

Yeah that's actually not true.

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It doesn't matter if every single illegal is a grandmother nun. It doesn't matter if they aren't criminals.

This is partly why the whole argument about crime statistics and using crime alone to support an argument for a strong border is a double edged sword. It can be good for rhetoric, but it's also subject to the yeahbuts and aktuallys and hes just a gud lettuce picker why you hurt him.

The point is we can't have uncontrolled, illegal immigration. For dozens of reasons. The intent of the illegal alien is irrelevant.

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