Post: #93801

The black pillers are not throwing coherent arguments around but rather are weaponizing their viewpoints to sow discord and chaos with the implied goal of discouraging people from supporting Trump because he would not do exactly as they wanted in the exact manner since day 1. They still think they can climb the ladder of chaos to the top, somehow magically influence things to go their way and believe all will be hunky dory. Black pillers do not understand the big picture of how things happen historically and are bowtie-wearing condescending supplicating cowards. They do not deserve to be reasoned with but mocked and mocked some more for their lack of reason and faith.

Post: #93802

(10-12-2019 01:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

This is all well-and-good, but until Big Tech is broken up, The Narrative will continue to accelerate at high speed. How about throwing some of Google's executives in jail for helping the oppressive Chinese government, not to mention constant cultural subversion and monopolistic behavior here at home? Where is the fear of God in our corporate overlord class? As long as every C-Suite member is Too Big To Jail, speeches will mean nothing. What we need are prosecutions and convictions. Hard jail time. Our enemies need to feel fear or they will continue to be emboldened.

Post: #93803

(10-12-2019 03:28 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 01:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

This is all well-and-good, but until Big Tech is broken up, The Narrative will continue to accelerate at high speed. How about throwing some of Google's executives in jail for helping the oppressive Chinese government, not to mention constant cultural subversion and monopolistic behavior here at home? Where is the fear of God in our corporate overlord class? As long as every C-Suite member is Too Big To Jail, speeches will mean nothing. What we need are prosecutions and convictions. Hard jail time. Our enemies need to feel fear or they will continue to be emboldened.

Exactly, these are extremely powerful words, words I would have never imagined being spoken by someone in our govt. in this day and age. I applaud Barr's courage to utter these words.

But we need some action, and soon, to follow through on it.

Post: #93804

Jail time. No plea bargains. Satanist criminal overlords being made examples of. These are the things that restore some hope in the republic.

Post: #93805

My G-d, someone needs to stop this madman!

IMPEACH NOW!

Post: #93806

Post: #93807

This is the Trump we all thought we were getting! He's clearly been meaning to deliver on his promise of ending Forever Wars. There's been some false starts, and it is now looking increasingly clear that this is due to the strong resistance from the MIC/ZOG establishment.

Trump is now getting some serious flack from all sides, especially from the (((Republican establishment))), most of which is completely beholden to ZOG. Niki Lena, Graham, McConnell, Rubio and Pat Robertson are all sharpening their knives. Robertson is openly threatening to sink him, he is exposing himself as a fake Christian Isreal first zionist.

We need to get behind Trump NOW.

(10-12-2019 02:10 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  The black pillers are not throwing coherent arguments around but rather are weaponizing their viewpoints to sow discord and chaos with the implied goal of discouraging people from supporting Trump because he would not do exactly as they wanted in the exact manner since day 1. They still think they can climb the ladder of chaos to the top, somehow magically influence things to go their way and believe all will be hunky dory. Black pillers do not understand the big picture of how things happen historically and are bowtie-wearing condescending supplicating cowards. They do not deserve to be reasoned with but mocked and mocked some more for their lack of reason and faith.

I agree about black pillers "missing the big picture", I was one myself.

Your negative attitude however is not constructive, way too gamma. Many of the Trump black pillers are some of the best posters on this board. Don't attribute evil intent to their disapproval of Trump. I think many will come around, as I now am.


This is a very good summary of the situation, from Rick Wiles, anti-Scofield, based Evangelical and often a Trump critic:

Post: #93808

Post: #93809

Powerful stuff.

Trump is a genuine patriot.

Post: #93810

(10-12-2019 01:17 PM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 04:55 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  No, the irony is that there is a twisted merit in it.

If he moves the overton window on this stuff then the next administration doing "business as usual" will suffer a more serious backlash leading (hopefully) to the secession of the still-viable states.

That's what's weird about the situation. Lets say for argument's sake that Trump was telling you "I'm building the wall, getting rid of millions of illegals and bringing the troops home" even though he wasn't actually doing any of those things.

When the Democrats came into power and promptly removed the (bits of remaining) wall, ushered in a wave of new illegals and committed the MIC to (((forever wars))) the people would be considerably more pissed off than they would be if it were Jeb (please clap) 2016-2024 letting the overton window drift reliably Left just as Bush did.

Odd logic, but it makes sense.

We're beyond the point at which the Overton Window matters. It was shifted to the demographic argument in the run-up to Trump's election, because that's the core of the "stop immigration" platform. Everyone was angry and knew what they wanted. Then he failed to take meaningful action, at least on the scale where it will matter ten years down the line, so being "more angry" about it in future elections will be completely irrelevant because the demographic shift will guarantee a permanent Democratic supermajority in this country from now until its end.
...

It matters because the backlash will create more incentive for the viable majority European states to secede from the shitty union.

I'm beginning to accept that there was nothing Trump could ever have done to secure the Federation as it exists now. Hillary won the popular vote, after all. The only remaining question is what will happen to tip the scales towards secession. That's what I was driving at in my post above.

Post: #93811

The wall is changing lives, making America safe again

Post: #93812

^Incredible stories.

Makes you realise how pathetic the US government has become. The US Army core of engineers say they can't build a wall there because the terrain is too challenging but an everyday US citizen contractor does it in half the time at half the cost.

You guys are so overdue for a revolution it's not even funny. God alone knows what you'd be capable of if you weren't swamped under by DC.

Post: #93813

Post: #93814

^ It's a known fact that if you want a project to get done fast, and with quality work, NEVER choose the US Govt. over a private company. Too much red tape and bureaucratic nonsense. When NASA wants something done right, they get SpaceX to do it.

Post: #93815

First President ever to reference the War Powers Act and reference that what we've been engaged in is actually unconstitutional.

Post: #93816

Post: #93817

It's hilarious that the so-called Conservatism is mostly a mixture of Zionism and Libertarianism. Libertarians argue for complete open borders.

Good vid on Turning point USA:





Oh - and good interview with Ann Coulter:

Post: #93818

(10-13-2019 09:43 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  It's hilarious that the so-called Conservatism is mostly a mixture of Zionism and Libertarianism. Libertarians argue for complete open borders.

There were three political ideologies that emerged in the 18th-19th century:

Conservatism - Primarily the idea society requires structures outside of government, primarily the family ; people are inherently foolish, but via the group can reach wisdom
Liberalism - Primarily the idea that if you leave people to their own devices they will produce the best results and that people are inherently good
The Left/Marxism - Primarily the idea the society should be ordered around the interests of an elite who claim to represent the poor ; people are inherently bad and require the salvation of leftist thinkers

What has happened is that Marxism, which is responsible for the most destruction and areas where it was tried ended up most resembling the world Marx claimed to have an antidote for, has ended up as the the by far dominant ideology.

Liberalism has been hugely watered down and the aspects of liberalism (particularly capitalism) that the left were able to so vilify have mostly been cleaved off and sold as conservative. A liberal today, at least in Europe, is a social democrat, which itself is a Marxist philosophy. Three of social democracy's pillars are wealth distribution, a large welfare state and massive regulation. All of them are incompatible with original liberal ideas. On top of that liberals have increasingly been pushing cultural Marxism, supporting the old ecconomic Marxist tenets was not enough for them.

As noted above, conservatism has been almost completely forgotten. There are few conservatives and when they are they are very weak and usually too scared to say much of what they believe due to the fear of defenestration from society. Most people have no idea what conservatism is - they think it's capitalism, plus being mean.

What we are left with is liberalism (allow people to do what they want if the consent) up to the point that principle infringes of left-wing thought, which takes precedence. It is a particularly toxic combination. Especially now the left have found out that immigrants are a much cheaper, more dependable constituency then the less well off. The result is both the liberal principle (be what you want) and the left principle (join one of our acceptable groups and agitate for your benefits) rip society apart.

Charlie Kirk is an aspiration liberal, who thinks if you just allow everyone to do what they want then the sum result will be good. Because the left have moved society so far left, they are easily able to say liberalism is their opponent and that Kirk is a far-right, money-obsessed nasty. And that people who are actually somewhat conservative are just even further right and should not be permitted to exist. And Hitler and Mussolini, they were just even further right still. It's the three distinctions of far-right we now have: liberal, conservative, fascist.

It seems fairly obvious that Shapiro and Kirk are the main out-riders of the big capital that wants to make sure conservatism remains dead, but that liberalism rises again.

I think the reality is that long-term there will be no return of liberalism and that some form of conservatism will have to emerge from the wreckage we are heading towards.

Post: #93819

(10-13-2019 08:45 AM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  First President ever to reference the War Powers Act and reference that what we've been engaged in is actually unconstitutional.

Didn't Trump veto a bill from the Senate several months ago that tried to put an end to US involvement in Yemen on the basis that Congress never voted for the Yemen war?

Post: #93820

Yeah. its not so simple
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/o...50667.html

Quote:'Missed opportunity': Critics assail Trump's veto of Yemen bill
US politicians decry Trump's decision to veto bill that would have ended US involvement in the Saudi-UAE war in Yemen.
by William Roberts
17 Apr 2019




A man walks on the rubble of houses at the site of a Saudi-led air attack in the Red Sea port city of Hodeidah, Yemen [Abduljabbar Zeyad/Reuters]
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Washington, DC - Members of the United States Congress criticised President Donald Trump's veto of a resolution that would have ended US military support for the Saudi-UAE war in Yemen, calling it a "missed opportunity".
"From a president elected on the promise of putting a stop to our endless wars, this veto is a painful missed opportunity," said Democrat Ro Khanna, who was the lead sponsor of the bill in the US House of Representatives.
"This resolution nonetheless was a major win," Khanna said in a statement. "It sends a clear signal to the Saudis that they need to lift their blockade and allow humanitarian assistance into Yemen if they care about their relationship with Congress."
The Yemen War Powers Resolution was a bipartisan effort to promote an end to the world's largest humanitarian crisis, Khanna said.
The bill was supported by Democrats and some of the president's Republican allies in Congress, including Senator Rand Paul and Representative Mark Meadows, among others.
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Trump vetoes bill to end US involvement in Yemen war
"The people of Yemen desperately need humanitarian help, not more bombs," tweeted Senator Bernie Sanders, who was the lead sponsor of the bill in the US Senate. "I am disappointed but not surprised that Trump has rejected the bipartisan resolution to end US involvement in the horrific war in Yemen."
The House approval of the resolution came earlier this month on a 247-175 vote. The Senate vote last month was 54-46. It was the first time in 47 years that Congress invoked its constitutional authority to try to stop US involvement in a foreign conflict.

Trump vetoed the bill on Tuesday. Congress is unlikely to muster sufficient votes to override Trump's veto.

"This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future," Trump said in a statement.
Other bills
Advocates for the Yemen resolution are likely to turn their attention now to legislation in the House that would ban further US arms sales to Saudi Arabia and a bill in the Senate that would also impose financial sanctions on individual Saudis.
"There are other bills that people will turn their attention to," said Medea Benjamin, cofounder of the CodePink peace advocacy group.
"Unfortunately, the war is not stopping. So, we will both be pushing to try to get an override of the veto as well as pushing these other vehicles," she told Al Jazeera.


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When will the world stop failing the people of Yemen?
Representative Jim McGovern, a Massachusetts Democrat and chairman of the powerful House Rules Committee, introduced legislation in January with bipartisan support that would stop all arms sales and US aid to Saudi Arabia. The bill is pending before the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
In the Senate, Democratic Senator Bob Menendez has introduced a bill that calls for an end to the war in Yemen, and would impose financial and travel sanctions on individual Saudis. It is pending before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
'Breaking point'
US politicians have grown uneasy with Trump's close relationship with Saudi Arabia as his administration tries to further isolate Iran, a regional rival.
Many legislators also criticised the president for not condemning Saudi Arabia for the killing of a Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who had been critical of the kingdom.
Khashoggi was murdered in October 2018 after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to obtain documents needed for his wedding. US intelligence agencies have reportedly concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was complicit in his murder.
Vetoing the measure is an "effective green light for the war strategy that has created the world's worst humanitarian crisis to continue", said International Rescue Committee (IRC) president and CEO David Miliband.
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Yemen air raid: Thousands attend children's funerals in Sanaa
"Yemen is at a breaking point with 10 million people on the brink of famine. There are as many as 100 civilian casualties per week, and Yemenis are more likely to be killed at home than in any other structure."
Since 2015, the US has provided the aerial refuelling of jets, reconnaissance, targeting and intelligence information to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), in their campaign against the Houthi rebels who unseated the Saudi-backed government in Yemen.
The UAE hailed the veto, adding that the decision is both "timely and strategic".
"President Trump's assertion of support to the Arab Coalition in Yemen is a positive signal," Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash said on Twitter early on Wednesday.
Aid groups estimate that as many as 60,000 civilians have been killed in the war and as many as 85,000 children starved to death, with millions more "one step away from famine".
The fighting in the Arab world's poorest country has also left millions suffering from food and medical care shortages.
"There are 22 million souls at risk of dying, of being killed. Maybe not of being shot, but being starved to death or dying from medical problems for which they can receive no medicines," House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer previously told reporters.
"It is a humanitarian crisis. I would refer to it in even more draconian terms because I think it's such a conscious effort by both sides to put these people at risk," he added. "It is necessary for us to act."

I'm not entirely sure why we are involved in the war in Yemen. (((They))) don't care so much about a dirt poor shit hole country so why do we?

Post: #93821

Those wall videos are impressive. In just a few minutes they positively refute millions of lies told by corrupt Democrat politicians. This is brilliant engineering overcoming bullshit. There has already been enough proof of concept to get Trump reelected, but the high tech media will do everything they can to suppress the information.

Post: #93822

Seems Ilhan Omar and her boyfriend have been found among Antifa protesters:

CONFIRMED!… Ilhan Omar and Lover Tim Mynett Were Seen at the MN Trump Riots! PHOTOS AND VIDEO — (Facial Recognition Confirmation)

Post: #93823

(10-13-2019 04:02 PM)gework Wrote:  Seems Ilhan Omar and her boyfriend have been found among Antifa protesters:

CONFIRMED!… Ilhan Omar and Lover Tim Mynett Were Seen at the MN Trump Riots! PHOTOS AND VIDEO — (Facial Recognition Confirmation)

Post: #93824

Im going to post this once a week, every week now

(09-28-2019 07:22 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  like I said...

(07-29-2019 04:55 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Wake me up when the first indictment is handed down

Post: #93825

(10-12-2019 11:43 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^Incredible stories.

Makes you realise how pathetic the US government has become. The US Army core of engineers say they can't build a wall there because the terrain is too challenging but an everyday US citizen contractor does it in half the time at half the cost.

You guys are so overdue for a revolution it's not even funny. God alone knows what you'd be capable of if you weren't swamped under by DC.

Oh, we know...believe me we know.