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It becomes more and more obvious that Turks and Kurds are very similar in mentality . A bit like many people in the Balkans.
Both accuse each other of not respecting ceasefire , both are blackmailing the big powers.

While I do not want to see dead people , I am wondering how can all this end without one side exterminating the other. I also don't know how the Syriac and other christian minorities in Syrian Kurdistan (qamishlo city) will be "managed" by whoever wins this war.

If I was them I would seek for protection in Damascus or a safe pro-assad region.
But time will tell.
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So Mitt Romney created an anonymous Twitter account with the pseudo name “Pierre Delecto”. Carlos Danger was already taken.

It’s a sock puppet account to defend Mitt Romney. What a loser.

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Romney is an uber cuck. His mormon passive agressive is showing.
10-21-2019 07:54 AM
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(10-21-2019 07:54 AM)rpg Wrote:  Romney is an uber cuck. His mormon passive agressive is showing.

Romney and his family have been selling out this country and the working class for over 50 years. They are the lowest of the low. Romney literally invested in opiods and made a fortune off of it, and then invested in opiod addiction clinics and made more money off the flip side.
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The fact that Captain Cuck Mitt Romney got elected to the senate in 2018 years AFTER trashing Trump non-stop has always been a pretty big black pill for me.

A solid GOP/conservative state elevating the ultimate Never Trumper; like we (true MAGA types) needed another flank to worry about. Isn't a corrupt media, an evil DEM party, demographics, and the already present GOPe types enough already?

But you know what really stings about it all?

Trump endorsed Romney.


We know Trump's endorsement has some weight; as evident by DeSantis' rise post-endorsement for the governors race in Florida in 2018. So, it really begs the question: What the hell was Trump thinking endorsing Romney in 2018? Why did he do it?

On a more optimistic note:

It appears Trump with the recent Syria move is finally throwing down the gauntlet towards the corrupt establishment and swamp. I think Leonard was onto something when he recently said:

(10-17-2019 09:46 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I have no evidence to support this conjecture but I wonder if he was promised some sort of deal by the Boss Grabblers and he's coming around to the understanding that they're going to (surprise surprise) renege on it and leave him twisting in the wind.


This has been my thinking as well for a long while: Trump finally has realized he is NEVER going to get a fair shake no matter the compromises he makes.

People forget: As soon as the Mueller report was out earlier this year, the VERY NEXT DAY, Trump did the Golan Heights deal for Israel; with what I would guess would be the understanding that the witch hunt would be largely over.

With the Ukraine/impeachment non-sense kicking up with the Mueller dust not even settled yet, I think Trump has FINALLY realized he can't negotiate with the establishment/swamp/globalist types anymore and now he has to go all-in on taking them down. You'd think he would have had this figured out after Paul Ryan fucked him over on the immigration stuff but that's over and done now.

It's also possible that Trump intended on playing nice with the swamp until Sessions could lock them all up but when Sessions' folded, that threw a massive jam into the schedule of things and Trump had to work around the delay and setbacks. The recent reports on US attorney John Durham, the point man looking into all the Spygate stuff, look promising thus far. We could see some major arrests within the next year and the entire Spygate corrupt enterprise exposed once and for all.

Circling back to Trump specifically, want to know a great way to tell if Trump has gone all-in against the swamp?

Watch who he endorses for the 2020 races.

If it's corrupt cuck types like Romney again, then I think we all know what the answer is unfortunately. In addition, will Trump continue to staff his administration with swamp creatures or will he bring back more true MAGA types like Bannon and Lewandowski into the game as rumored a while back? In the very near term, watch who Trump picks for DHS if you want a sense of where the trend is going. DHS handles immigration enforcement among other things so it's not a position of insignificance. Is Trump gonna pick a swamp creature or true MAGA type? We'll see.

All in all, I'm really hoping Trump has turned the page finally. Syria is a massive great start to this new chapter; let's hope the train keeps moving in the right direction this time and stays the course.
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Quote:The Romney-Delecto connection was first made by Slate’s Ashley Feinberg, who went hunting for the secret account after the senator mentioned its existence to the Atlantic in a profile published Sunday. In a follow-up call with Atlantic reporter McKay Coppins, Romney confirmed that the account, which has since been made private, is his.

“C’est moi,” Romney said after being asked about Delecto.

When reached for comment late Sunday, a spokesperson for Romney responded by emailing The Washington Post a link to a tweet from Coppins that contained Romney’s brief confirmation.

Just spoke to @MittRomney on the phone, and asked him about Pierre Delecto. His only response: "C'est moi." Updated my story accordingly

— McKay Coppins (@mckaycoppins) October 21, 2019

Romney brought up his covert Twitter persona during an interview with the Atlantic as he discussed Trump lashing out at him on social media. The 72-year-old senator has condemned Trump for allegedly attempting to get officials in Ukraine to dig up dirt on former vice president Joe Biden and slammed the president’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria. In response, Trump has labeled Romney a “pompous ‘ass’” and called for his “impeachment,” though senators cannot be impeached.

According to Coppins, Romney shrugged off Trump’s insults and grabbed an iPad off his desk during the interview.

He explained that he uses a secret Twitter account — ‘What do they call me, a lurker?’ — to keep tabs on the political conversation,” Coppins wrote.

The senator declined to name the account, noting only that he was “following 668 people,” listing journalists, late-night comedians and athletes, Coppins reported.

But those slim details were more than enough for Feinberg, who previously discovered that former FBI director James B. Comey was on Twitter using the alias “Reinhold Niebuhr."

The process, Feinberg wrote, hinged on the assumption that “Romney, a known family man, would want to keep close tabs on his offspring.” Instead of targeting his family members with tens of thousands of followers, Feinberg homed in on a public account belonging to Allie Romney Critchlow, the senator’s oldest grandchild. Critchlow’s account “has just 481 followers, making digging through them an annoying-but-not-impossible feat,” Feinberg wrote.

Then, as Feinberg looked through Critchlow’s followers for users who “appeared to make an effort to conceal their real identities,” one caught her attention: Pierre Delecto.

A deeper dive into Delecto’s account found that it matched the description Romney gave to the Atlantic. The account was created in July 2011, shortly after Romney announced he was going to run for president, Slate reported. Beyond politicians, political reporters and pundits, Delecto follows late-night hosts Conan O’Brien, Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon and athletes such as New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and former Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre, according to Slate.

The clues pointing to Romney continued to add up, Feinberg wrote. The first user Delecto followed was Tagg Romney, the senator’s eldest son. The account later followed a number of people associated with Romney, such as advisers, aides and reporters who have covered him.

Another clue was Delecto’s Twitter activity. In the past eight years, Delecto has liked 257 tweets and only tweeted 10 times, all of which were replies to other Twitter users. According to Slate, Delecto liked nearly 70 tweets that either came directly from Romney’s official accounts or were posts quoting from those accounts.

Screen shots from the account show Delecto liking tweets that praised Romney’s criticism of Trump’s Syria decision. Delecto also liked tweets denouncing Trump, including one that read, “If this is a stable genius, I would hate to see what an unstable idiot would do,” and another criticizing the president for playing golf amid the Syria crisis.

But perhaps even more telling were Delecto’s sparse tweets, several of which defended Romney.

“Only Republican to hit Trump on [Mueller] report, only one to hit Trump on character time and again, so Soledad, you think he’s the one without moral compass?” Delecto wrote earlier this year in response to a critical tweet from journalist Soledad O’Brien, who had called out the senator for his “utter lack of a moral compass.”

The account’s most recent tweet, dated Saturday, appeared to be a tongue-in-cheek response to conservative radio host and blogger Erick Erickson applauding Romney for taking a public stand against Trump.

“Don’t read the comments, ever,” Delecto wrote.

Social media users quickly became obsessed with the bizarre moniker the senator chose for his alter ego.

As some praised Romney for the name, describing it as “exquisite” and “objectively terrific,” others were reminded of equally distinctive pseudonyms used by public figures in the past.

Former New York congressman Anthony Weiner used the alias “Carlos Danger” to send explicit photos to at least one woman. Former pro football player Michael Vick allegedly referred to himself as “Ron Mexico” in an attempt to hide his identity while receiving treatment for herpes. Even Trump has used a fake name, going by “John Barron” when he pretended to be his own spokesman in the 1980s.

Some pointed out that this also isn’t the first time Romney has adopted a false identity. In 2012, the Stanford Daily reported that when Romney was a freshman at the university, he used the name “Tim Yenmor,” or Mitt (minus a T) Romney backward, in an effort to foil a rival school’s planned prank.

It remains unclear exactly how Romney decided on “Pierre Delecto,” but that didn’t stop eager Twitter sleuths from trying to figure it out.

People suggested that “Pierre” might come from Romney’s time spent as a missionary in France and that “Delecto” could be a reference to the Latin phrase “in flagrante delicto,” which translates to “while the crime is blazing,” according to Merriam-Webster.

But amid theories about the name’s origin, jokes abounded.

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(10-21-2019 11:06 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  The fact that Captain Cuck Mitt Romney got elected to the senate in 2018 years AFTER trashing Trump non-stop has always been a pretty big black pill for me.

A solid GOP/conservative state elevating the ultimate Never Trumper; like we (true MAGA types) needed another flank to worry about. Isn't a corrupt media, an evil DEM party, demographics, and the already present GOPe types enough already?

But you know what really stings about it all?

Trump endorsed Romney.

Not every influential tribe originated in the Middle East.

Utah is not "a solid GOP/conservative state", it's a solid Mormon state first and foremost.

Romney is a Mormon.
The guy he defeated in the Republican primary is a Mormon.
His Democratic opponent was Jenny Wilson, a Mormon.
The previous senator, Orrin Hatch, also a Mormon.
Mike Lee, the other current senator from Utah, happens to be a Mormon.

The election was a mere formality, it's the Church that decides the outcome.
Orrin Hatch himself publicly stated that he only retired because Romney had agreed to become his successor.

Trump (grudgingly) endorsed Romney because Romney was always going to win this, no matter what.
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It seems the Syria withdrawal is already being cancelled by the usual suspects. There will be troops left in both northeast Syria to prevent the Syrian oil fields from being taken back by Assad and also southern Syria, a base along the border with Jordan which was used as training center for jihadists. It's amazing how this happens out in the open.

Trump says some US troops staying in Syria after requests from Israel, Jordan -- Times of Israel


Quote:US President Donald Trump said Monday that a small number of US troops remain in Syria at the request of Israel and Jordan, with some positioned near the borders with Jordan and Israel and others deployed to secure oil fields.

“The other region where we’ve been asked by Israel and Jordan to leave a small number of troops is a totally different section of Syria, near Jordan, and close to Israel,” Trump said when asked whether he would leave soldiers in Syria. “So we have a small group there, and we secured the oil. Other than that, there’s no reason for it, in our opinion.”

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“We have troops in towns in northeast Syria that are located next to the oil fields. The troops in those towns are not in the present phase of withdrawal,” Esper said.

Israelis have been watching Trump’s decisions on Syria closely, concerned that their country too could be abandoned by its most important ally.

Pompeo Scrambles to Reassure Israel Over Syria Withdrawal

Quote:First stop, Jerusalem. Washington is keeping about 150 troops at the Al Tanf base near the Syria-Iraq border, which Israel and American officials see as important to monitoring and deterring Iranian efforts to move weapons and personnel into Syria. Israel wants assurances that the base will stay open, former officials said. The U.S. military has said operations there are part of its campaign against Islamic State.

U.S. Plan to Guard Syrian Oil Fields Sows Confusion

Quote:Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Monday confirmed that President Donald Trump’s administration is considering maintaining a small force of U.S. troops in northeastern Syria near Kurdish-controlled oil fields, a risky proposal that caught many officials off guard after the president spent the last two weeks insisting that all U.S. forces in the area would return home.

Since Trump’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops from the border with Syria on Oct. 6, paving the way for a violent Turkish incursion that has killed scores of Kurdish fighters and civilians and displaced hundreds of thousands of residents, top Pentagon officials have pushed to leave a residual force of a few hundred troops in northeastern Syria to fight the Islamic State and maintain a relationship with the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a senior U.S. administration official told Foreign Policy. Under the proposal, airstrikes against the militant group in Syria would continue from Iraq, the official said.
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Also those troops that are leaving are not returning to the US but are going to western Iraq.

The Israelis have been very outraged over the US withdrawal.

Five Ways Trump’s Unnerving Decision on Syria Has Seriously Harmed Israel -- Haaretz


THE MESSAGE FOR ISRAEL AFTER THE US WITHDRAWAL FROM SYRIA -- Jerusalem Post



Israelis see Trump’s Syria pullout as a betrayal that could help unravel the region -- Washington Post


Quote:JERUSALEM — The abrupt withdrawal of U.S. troops from northeastern Syria and subsequent Turkish attacks on Kurdish fighters have badly rattled Israel’s national security experts, who decried President Trump’s action as a betrayal of loyal allies and evidence that Israel’s most vital supporter is a fickle friend at best.
Israeli officials reportedly had no warning of the withdrawal, which the White House announced Sunday after a call between Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

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“Trump abandons allies without blinking and Israel is liable to be next,” said a commentary in the daily Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper. “The entire balance of power in the Middle East is built on a very delicate web of supports, pressures, understandings and agreements — and Trump is unraveling that web.”

The Kurds are viewed here as long-standing allies of Israel, a reliable, moderate pro-Western group that has fought on Israel’s side in multiple conflicts, most recently in the battle against Islamic State militants in Syria. Many Jews here express a kinship with the Kurds, whom they view as a stateless ethnic group persecuted by their common foes, including Iran, Syria and Turkey.

“The world was silent during the Holocaust and was silent when the Armenian people were massacred and did not recognize it,” said Yaakov Margi, an ultra-Orthodox member of the Israeli Knesset, or parliament. “It is silent today to the slaughter of the Kurdish people by a tyrant who is never satiated.”


Politicians from several parties condemned Turkey’s incursion and called for Israel to help the Kurds. A group of 50 reserve combat officers in the Israeli military signed an open letter to Netanyahu beseeching him to “do everything possible to prevent a massacre of the Kurdish people.”

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“It’s not that tomorrow we will have a defense problem because the Americans have left northern Syria,” said Amos Yadlin, former chief of Israeli military intelligence. “It goes to the role of America as a superpower in the Middle East. If the Americans leave, it’s easier for Iran, it’s easier for [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad, it’s easier for Hezbollah. All of these are our enemies.”
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I love the idea that the "Kurds are our alllies" as opposed to "the guys who have an interest and that interest that aligns with X, acceptable to the USA" in whatever part of the world we are talking about.

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Is the Israelis see these areas as so vital to their security, why don't they deploy (((their))) sons and daughters there and put them in harm's way with Israeli tax money?

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From their point of view, for the same reason you wouldn't break your son's back under a heavy burden when you have a mule present.

You ask "why don't you?".

Their honest answer is "why would I? God created slaves for us for a reason."

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(10-21-2019 10:19 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Is the Israelis see these areas as so vital to their security, why don't they deploy (((their))) sons and daughters there and put them in harm's way with Israeli tax money?

These onions believe they were born with extra layers to their stinky souls simply (((because))). Yeah they're under constant alleged threat from Muslims, well what did they expect, they set up camp in the middle of their lands. America is too weak and cucked to help themselves out, and having sellouts in the senate and congress and in every echelon of government doesn't help either. Every goy is expendable to this agenda, every fool is expendable to this agenda, everyone unawares is liable to get caught up in some pre-planned conflict that will possibly leave them maimed for life or dead, and thus end all of their lineage forever whilst the rats continue to fester and multiply.

Trump can't or won't do shit about any of this. He may want the US out of the sandbox, but he can't do that all by his onesy. He may not overtly be one of them, but for fucks sake look who his children married, its been discussed ad nausem, one way or another, they got him by the balls, or the spawn of his loins. Now ain't that a coinkydink?

As much as I enjoy DJT's personality and trolling, he was put forth to placate the right-wings from truly doing a coup on flamboyant barry soetoro, but also to further separate the libtards and npcs from the rest of the normies, furthering the great divide and heightening the conquer. I really wish he was #ourguy but it will never happen. This system is so putrid and rotten to the core that things have to go dark completely before a new dawn will ever rise. No one in the establishment is your friend or cares for your future, we are not their constituency, we are their conscripts of involuntary servitude, through our toils in life, or the absence of our deaths.

Whether its your end of days, a transfiguration, a total collapse leading to a new beginning, or even a permanent collapse, the languishing of the current system and its stubborn refusal to die is what is keeping us in this weird limbo-like existence of meaningless nihilism, clownish antics, and biological inverses. An existence void of anything significant or beautiful, except for bouts of faith, a rare connection from flesh to sublime, random and sporadic, surging and erupting like geysers in the dark on the stale airless surface to the sky of some extraterrestrial lifeless moon orbiting a dead planet, glimmering briefly in the nothingness, then gone.

You can't cheat nature.
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(10-21-2019 09:49 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  I love the idea that the "Kurds are our alllies" as opposed to "the guys who have an interest and that interest that aligns with X, acceptable to the USA" in whatever part of the world we are talking about.

The two arguments I keep hearing over and over again is "We can't abandon our Kurdish allies" and "we can't let Russia run" - it's what been embedded in the NPC programming as of late. ISIS was a common enemy of the Kurds and the US hence there was a reason for both to fight together to achieve the goal of eliminating ISIS from the region. I don't get how this is supposed to extend to the United States being responsible for carving out and defending a state for the Kurds. The response might be that we are there just to keep them from being slaughtered but the reality is that any sort of alliance with the Kurds is going to entail assisting them in their goals of having their own states and incurring the wrath of multiple actors in the region. I am not willing to commit US lives and resources for that.

As for "we can't let the Russians win" - my response is that if the Russians do achieve their goals in the region, so what? There's this notion that we need to reflectively counter everything Russia does just for the sake of cockblocking them. We should instead be asking what sort of net loss the US would incur if we didn't oppose Russia. In the case of Syria, I don't think the benefits (upholding abstract goals of "human rights") outweighs the concrete costs of American blood. Russia in contrast does have real, material interests in that region that has a direct impact on them. They have much more skin in the game there so I think if it came down to US vs Russia in that region, they would be much more willing to sacrifice live bodies.
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The Kurds speak an indo-european language, apparantly of the Iranian branch.

Kurds are apparantly some sort of ethnic Iranians.

High caste Persians they are not, or not those I've met, at least.

There were a bunch of highly advanced societies in Anatolia in the past, Hittites among others.

They strike me as ethnically similar to other Anatolian Turks. While we might want to help based on the Kurds being "indo-europeans", I think what we're dealing with there is the same as Turks not being Central Asians, just because they speak a mongolian offshoot. Kurds are not european. I would say many Persians are significantly more Europeans than the average kurd. Prove me wrong.

Not really sure where it went wrong with these anatolians. Maybe when they drove out all the Armenians.
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Apparently some diplomat named Bill Taylor had just testified that Sondland told him Trump was withholding the Ukrainian aid until Ukraine made an announcement they were investigating Burisma.

Sondland's and this Taylor's testimonies seems to be at odds with each other. Even through Taylor never spoke to Trump the Dems are making this out as some kind of iron clad evidence.

Trump still hasn't learned to clean house and it continues to come back to bite him.

It's a shame the Republicans couldn't do their own investigations. Oh wait...
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More info on the Taylor testimony.



I don't understand why the Democrats would try and keep everything a secret. Surely this will all come out when they do vote on impeachment. And they will because they seem to think it will help them politically.

The majority of independents in swing states are not on board with the impeachment from what I can tell.

Going back to the Moody model, the Democrats need a record breaking turn out in order to beat Trump. I tend to think this impeachment is their attempt to get that turnout but I have a feeling it will blow up in their face. If this turns out like the Russian collusion then it can end up alienating their base and reduce turnout. Look at what happened to the CNN ratings after the Mueller report. People got pissed and turned off CNN. I can see that same thing happening with voter turnout.
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They're definitely testing the waters with her. She's being given more canned tweets to send out to see if people react well.
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(10-22-2019 07:24 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  More info on the Taylor testimony.



I don't understand why the Democrats would try and keep everything a secret. Surely this will all come out when they do vote on impeachment. And they will because they seem to think it will help them politically.

The majority of independents in swing states are not on board with the impeachment from what I can tell.

Going back to the Moody model, the Democrats need a record breaking turn out in order to beat Trump. I tend to think this impeachment is their attempt to get that turnout but I have a feeling it will blow up in their face. If this turns out like the Russian collusion then it can end up alienating their base and reduce turnout. Look at what happened to the CNN ratings after the Mueller report. People got pissed and turned off CNN. I can see that same thing happening with voter turnout.

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(10-19-2019 08:19 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 08:11 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Looks like the Kurds were working hand in hand with ISIS. Not a big surprising knowing that both the Kurds and ISIS are known for being funded and supported by the USA.


The Kurds were sitting on these ISIS prisoners as both their breadmaker and their insurance policy.

They basically blackmailed Europeans into sending them money and political support.

The Kurds were betrayed, showed they weren't bluffing.

If Assad had gotten these ISIS scum, he'd have dealt with them properly.

The Kurds are basically Persian gypsies, nomadic tribes from western Iran. They carved out a slice of eastern Anatolia which was Armenia, after participating in the removal and ethnic cleansing of Armenians and local Christians in northern Syria and Iraq.

The Kurds and ISIS were frenemies, occasionally skirmishing for good form, but funded more or less by the same sources. ISIS' role was to sweep the area of its Syrian inhabitants, many/most of whom are Christians, justifying NATO presence and mass carpet bombing of local cities like Raqqa, then they were to fade away and make room for a Kurdish state, so there is a parallel here with the Armenian Genocide from 100 years ago... As ISIS retreated from its "caliphate" regions, they handed over their positions to the Kurds, in a very orderly manner.

THe US/NATO provided air support for ISIS and the Kurds. They did some sorties against ISIS for the form, but they seemed to drop a lot of their ammo in boxes with parachutes, as opposed to in hot streaking lead salvos. And somehow, they couldn't manage to hit long slow ISIS tanker truck convoys driving back and forth to Turkey on desert roads for years, something that the Russian air force managed to finish in a few days, after they entered the conflict in 2015 at the behest of the Syrian government.

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(10-21-2019 09:00 PM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  Also those troops that are leaving are not returning to the US but are going to western Iraq.

The Israelis have been very outraged over the US withdrawal.

Five Ways Trump’s Unnerving Decision on Syria Has Seriously Harmed Israel -- Haaretz


THE MESSAGE FOR ISRAEL AFTER THE US WITHDRAWAL FROM SYRIA -- Jerusalem Post



Israelis see Trump’s Syria pullout as a betrayal that could help unravel the region -- Washington Post


Quote:JERUSALEM — The abrupt withdrawal of U.S. troops from northeastern Syria and subsequent Turkish attacks on Kurdish fighters have badly rattled Israel’s national security experts, who decried President Trump’s action as a betrayal of loyal allies and evidence that Israel’s most vital supporter is a fickle friend at best.
Israeli officials reportedly had no warning of the withdrawal, which the White House announced Sunday after a call between Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

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“Trump abandons allies without blinking and Israel is liable to be next,” said a commentary in the daily Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper. “The entire balance of power in the Middle East is built on a very delicate web of supports, pressures, understandings and agreements — and Trump is unraveling that web.”

The Kurds are viewed here as long-standing allies of Israel, a reliable, moderate pro-Western group that has fought on Israel’s side in multiple conflicts, most recently in the battle against Islamic State militants in Syria. Many Jews here express a kinship with the Kurds, whom they view as a stateless ethnic group persecuted by their common foes, including Iran, Syria and Turkey.

“The world was silent during the Holocaust and was silent when the Armenian people were massacred and did not recognize it,” said Yaakov Margi, an ultra-Orthodox member of the Israeli Knesset, or parliament. “It is silent today to the slaughter of the Kurdish people by a tyrant who is never satiated.”


Politicians from several parties condemned Turkey’s incursion and called for Israel to help the Kurds. A group of 50 reserve combat officers in the Israeli military signed an open letter to Netanyahu beseeching him to “do everything possible to prevent a massacre of the Kurdish people.”

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“It’s not that tomorrow we will have a defense problem because the Americans have left northern Syria,” said Amos Yadlin, former chief of Israeli military intelligence. “It goes to the role of America as a superpower in the Middle East. If the Americans leave, it’s easier for Iran, it’s easier for [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad, it’s easier for Hezbollah. All of these are our enemies.”

The shutzpah on this one here is quite remarkable, bringing out the Armenian Genocide, which the Kurds helped carry out with the Rothschild-financed Young Turks (((Domneh))) running the show!

https://astutenews.com/2016/07/20/conspi...dic-jewry/

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=95

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"The same people pushing for these wars, are often the ones demanding American open it's doors to unlimited migration from war-torn regions"

@14:32

"The job of our military is not to police the world. Other nations must step up and do their fair share. That hasn't taken place"
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Take care of those titties for me.
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