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(01-06-2020 02:55 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  
For his next magic trick, watch the Dems insist that we stay in Iraq.

First they bring all these troops into to intimidate Iran and now headlines saying they're actually gonna honor the Iraqi vote and turn right around and leave??? Man, my head's about to explode...can't take it anymore.

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Now Esper and Mark Milley said there is actually no plans to withdraw and the message that they are preparing for a withdrawal was apparently an unauthorized leak or something.
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Well thank goodness these people are at the command of nuclear weapons with these kinds of errors!

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Reading yours and a couple other poster's thoughts is akin to going on reddit/worldnews. Rinse and repeat
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Reminds me of that “dossier.” Someone wrote random shit on a piece of paper and it becomes evidence/world news. Maybe someone on team Trump tried to pull the same tactic in our favor?
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If you guys are worried about Trump completely turning back on the foreign policy he pledged to follow and go full neo-con, keep your eyes on Pompeo, Gina Haspel, and Mark Esper. These are the people who have Trump's ear when it comes to these sort of matters.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/...index.html

Quote:Pompeo has forged "very close relationships" with Haspel and Esper, alliances that bolstered his ability to make the case to Trump. "They all work together very, very closely," said the former Republican national security official.
That said, the former official expressed concern about the lack of deep expertise in Trump's national security team. Several analysts pointed to this as one factor in Pompeo's outsized influence within the administration.
The government is so compromised by Trump and by all the vacancies and lack of experience, this former official said, that "everything is being done by a handful of principles -- Pompeo, Esper, Milley. There are a lot of things being left on the floor."
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Let's get some more energy in this thread!







Appeals court lifts block on $3.6 billion for Trump border wall plan

Quote:A divided federal appeals court has lifted a lower court’s order blocking $3.6 billion in military construction funds that President Donald Trump planned to use to finance an expanded and improved border wall.

The New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued a brief order on Wednesday granting the Trump administration’s request to stay the injunction that U.S. District Court Judge David Briones, based in El Paso, Texas, issued last month.

The three-judge appeals court panel split along ideological lines, with two Republican appointees voting to temporarily set aside the injunction and the sole Democratic appointee dissenting.

The 5th Circuit panel’s majority did not provide a detailed explanation for its action, but noted that last July the Supreme Court stayed a similar injunction issued by a federal judge in Oakland, Calif.

Judges Edith Jones, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, and Andrew Oldham, a Trump appointee, also said there was a “substantial likelihood” that the plaintiffs in the Texas-based suit — the City of El Paso and the Border Network for Human Rights — lacked legal standing to pursue their claims that Trump’s planned spending violated appropriations limits imposed by Congress.

Judge Stephen Higginson, an appointee of President Barack Obama, said he was not convinced that the Justice Department had a winning case or that there was great urgency justifying the stay.

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I was upset when I heard about Trump killing this guy and committing troops to the region...

But with the reaction of the Iraqi government...

What if this was all a calculated feint by Trump to make it look like he is 'hard on terrorism' and 'friend of Israel' but then must RELUCTANTLY obey the Iraqis and withdraw troops at their behest, to respect their democratic sovereignty?

The 60 billion per year spent on maintaining the army presence there makes the 5 billion in direct aid seem inconsequential, have to deal with the larger expense first.

Then maybe once US troops are out of the way and can't be dragged in, Trump can acknowledge some Israeli atrocity in 2021 and suspend all aid.
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I think you guys are giving him way too much credit. We invaded Iraq based on faked "intelligence" and are still there 16 years later. There is literally not one single person in our entire government who is even making a pretense of explaining why the American military is in Iraq, at all, beyond vague Boomer rambling about muh freedoms and muh values. The obvious answer is that Sheldon Adelson wants Trump to keep us there, and probably told him he'll yank all his influence and money unless he plays along. Not sure what Obama's excuse was, unless George Soros was playing the same game on the other side of the equation.

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(01-10-2020 04:12 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  I think you guys are giving him way too much credit. We invaded Iraq based on faked "intelligence" and are still there 16 years later. There is literally not one single person in our entire government who is even making a pretense of explaining why the American military is in Iraq, at all, beyond vague Boomer rambling about muh freedoms and muh values.

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(01-09-2020 04:05 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  [Image: l9vcz58uhr941.png]

Interesting picture.

Take a look at a lot of the elites...Hillary, etc. You see a lot of them all wearing a ring with a red stone on their wedding finger.
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(01-10-2020 09:51 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(01-09-2020 04:05 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  [Image: l9vcz58uhr941.png]

Interesting picture.

Take a look at a lot of the elites...Hillary, etc. You see a lot of them all wearing a ring with a red stone on their wedding finger.

That seems to be the right hand. Wedding ring is on the left hand (at least in Europe).
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The cartoon is wrong on that detail. He wore it on his left hand in pictures.
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Branco is a typical BoomerCon, pretty naive and NPC zionist when it comes to foreign policy.

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(01-10-2020 09:51 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(01-09-2020 04:05 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  [Image: l9vcz58uhr941.png]

Interesting picture.

Take a look at a lot of the elites...Hillary, etc. You see a lot of them all wearing a ring with a red stone on their wedding finger.

It's a carnelian stone, purportedly one of the most important in Islam.

"So the king took his signet ring from his hand and gave it to Haman, the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the enemy of the Jews."

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Trump signaling to his non-interventionist base. There is probably some truth to this, but I think he is still trying to straddle that base while still pandering to the neocons. We;ll probably find out his true position in his second term...

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(01-10-2020 04:31 PM)911 Wrote:  
Trump signaling to his non-interventionist base. There is probably some truth to this, but I think he is still trying to straddle that base while still pandering to the neocons. We;ll probably find out his true position in his second term...

Associates said? Yawn, wake me up when they have any kind of real source other than "associates said."

Probably more bullshit fake news. Trump is actually non-interventionist, he's not just "signalling." He's had that general position for a long time.

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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/jus...li=BBU4PL8

Quote:Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.

John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.

As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.
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The law and order crowd are looking at increasingly long odds that this is all just building to a momentous killing blow.

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(01-11-2020 05:33 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/jus...li=BBU4PL8

Quote:Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.

John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.

As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.
...

The law and order crowd are looking at increasingly long odds that this is all just building to a momentous killing blow.

Well, a major part of the Q phenomenon was that Huber was the key to everything and was going to line up traitors and have them executed for treason, in Utah, by firing squad. If the Huber investigation amounts to nothing, I guess we'll all clearly see the truth about Q (who continually promised things like "the mother of all bombs" and "public disclosure" and "indictments in 2019" and other things that never happened). I went back and forth on Q for a long time but this would certainly settle it for me.

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(01-10-2020 04:31 PM)911 Wrote:  
Trump signaling to his non-interventionist base. There is probably some truth to this, but I think he is still trying to straddle that base while still pandering to the neocons. We;ll probably find out his true position in his second term...

This is exactly what Tom Luongo has been saying in his analysis. The neo-con senate has Trump by the nuts until the impeachment is over. If Trump does not support their warmongering they will not give their votes and he gets a conviction. It is all a set-up. The neo-cons will not be happy with this Iran de-escalation, and we should expect more crazy stuff before the impeachment is over.
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(01-10-2020 04:12 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  I think you guys are giving him way too much credit. We invaded Iraq based on faked "intelligence" and are still there 16 years later.

Just going to note that under Obama there was a pull-out in 2011 and re-insertion in 2014 due to ISIL insurgence from Syria.

Quote: There is literally not one single person in our entire government who is even making a pretense of explaining why the American military is in Iraq, at all, beyond vague Boomer rambling about muh freedoms and muh values. The obvious answer is that Sheldon Adelson wants Trump to keep us there, and probably told him he'll yank all his influence and money unless he plays along. Not sure what Obama's excuse was, unless George Soros was playing the same game on the other side of the equation.

1. Oil.
2. Geoge W. Bush's personal and political motives. (perhaps some try-hard desire to outdo his more alpha father.)
3. Long-term strategic value of having US bases in the region. (Basically imperialism)

I do think many neocons really thought they could bomb Iraq into a western-style democracy.
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The rank and file up through the upper middle class ones all did. A lot of us with a military background have come into contact with those people.

I highly doubt the elites ever had any interest in turning it into a functional democracy. The idea seems to have been to set up a puppet "Democracy" that would allow for nation building cred while remaining entirely subservient to the Zio/Saudi alliance. None of them anticipated that the Iraqis would be better at war than the power of the US military.
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I think people underestimate the genetic and cultural foundation necessary to get a democracy off the ground.
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North Korea, South Korea; China, Taiwan. Same genes, same cultural heritage, dramatically different political systems.

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