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(01-11-2020 05:39 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  
(01-11-2020 05:33 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/jus...li=BBU4PL8

Quote:Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.

John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.

As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.
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The law and order crowd are looking at increasingly long odds that this is all just building to a momentous killing blow.

Well, a major part of the Q phenomenon was that Huber was the key to everything and was going to line up traitors and have them executed for treason, in Utah, by firing squad. If the Huber investigation amounts to nothing, I guess we'll all clearly see the truth about Q (who continually promised things like "the mother of all bombs" and "public disclosure" and "indictments in 2019" and other things that never happened). I went back and forth on Q for a long time but this would certainly settle it for me.

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(01-12-2020 02:24 PM)911 Wrote:  North Korea, South Korea; China, Taiwan. Same genes, same cultural heritage, dramatically different political systems.

So? I stand by my point: getting a democracy off the ground takes a favorable conditions.

South Koreans are genetically homogeneous, intelligent and ethnically unified. They have a long history of being civilized without being tainted by Islam at any point. Furthermore comparison with North Korea is absurd, as it is abundantly clear that the North Korean state is an unnatural tyranny. Yes, turns out you can harshly impose a totalitarian dictatorship on Koreans with a massive cost in standard of living. That says nothing about the kind of government that would be best-suited to them.

Arab countries are full of inbred, low-IQ people of various different ethnic backgrounds who were all dominated by Islam the religion of war for over a thousand years.
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Ironically, North Korea's regime might be more aligned with traditional Korean culture than South Korea's neoliberal materialist culture, I'm not sure if the North Korean model could have worked in other cultures... South Korea has a modern materialist culture that might be more foreign to them, a society which is starting to fray, with the world's lowest fertility rate and a crash in their traditional values.

(01-13-2020 05:14 PM)Blaster Wrote:  Arab countries are full of inbred, low-IQ people of various different ethnic backgrounds who were all dominated by Islam the religion of war for over a thousand years.

Many Arab countries do well, if left to their own devices, like pre-war Iraq and Syria, or Lebanon. Arabs have had trading, mercantile cultures similar to south Chinese culture, Dubai is a good example of that:

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Ah yes, Dubai, built entirely on the back of slaves. Literal slaves. On top of importing Slavic slaves.

Can't wait for Dubai to collapse into dust one day....I hope so anyway
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Pre-war Iraq was "doing well?"

Quote: if left to their own devices

The topic under discussion isn't about "leaving them to their own devices" it's about whether it's feasible to topple a regime and install a democratic government that will just work and the country will suddenly become free and peaceful.

Quote: Dubai is a good example

Dubai is built by slaves with oil money to bring in western expat wealth. It is by no means a reflection of a healthy and balanced economy resulting from freedom and democracy. Although it is perhaps a small step in that direction, it strikes me as much more fragile than it appears.
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Iraq was doing very well before the first Gulf war, and really well before the Iran war. It had one of the best infrastructures in the developing world, and a thriving, well-educated large middle class, similar to Libya's before that country was dismantled, though the Libyans are less civilized as a people, historically speaking.

I guess that was before your time. Saddam was picked and groomed by the CIA and put in power there. They picked him because he was a thug who would not make a very good leader and would be easier to manipulate. He was so inept at first that he botched their first coup, the CIA managed to put him in charge on the second attempt a few years later.

Assad (the elder) was also groomed by British and French intelligence, he was a local mason and a thug. He was however much wilier than Saddam, and managed to navigate the waters and stay in charge until his death from natural causes. His son Bashar is a mild-mannered nerd who wasn't supposed to rule, but his other brothers died.

Most middle eastern Arab countries had liberal democracies in the 1940s and 50s, then came a wave of military coups, sponsored by the CIA or the Soviets. Tunisia legalized abortion in 1965, years before France and the US. That was the path those countries were on back then.

Dubai's economy is 3x-4x less dependent on oil and gas than those of the US or Canada, it's a cross between Singapore and Las Vegas. They do use third world labor the same way multinationals use local labor in third world countries, with similar salaries, around $200-400/mo at the bottom.

It's more of an Athenian social and economic model, with the nationals being taken care of and several classes of foreign workers providing menial and specialized labor. The minimum wage for a citizen with a college degree is near $40k, tax free. Healthcare and college education are free for citizens, students also get a stipend and scholarships for grad school abroad. Their economy is only fragile inasmuch as the region is becoming politically unstable with Iran's rise and a changing geopolitical landscape.

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(01-14-2020 02:01 AM)911 Wrote:  Iraq was doing very well before the first Gulf war, and really well before the Iran war. It had one of the best infrastructures in the developing world, and a thriving, well-educated large middle class, similar to Libya's before that country was dismantled, though the Libyans are less civilized as a people, historically speaking.

I guess that was before your time. Saddam was picked and groomed by the CIA and put in power there. They picked him because he was a thug who would not make a very good leader and would be easier to manipulate. He was so inept at first that he botched their first coup, the CIA managed to put him in charge on the second attempt a few years later.

Why did Saddam invade Kuwait? He had to know it would stir a major response from the West

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He was baited into invading Kuwait, having received the green light from a US ambassador, who told him that this wouldn't concern the US. Kuwait was gerrymandered out of Iraq during Sykes-Picot in order to restrict that country's access to the sea.

Prior to the second Gulf War and Iraqi invasion, Saddam offered the US to buy 2 million GM vehicles IIRC, according to CIA/UN negociator/whistleblower Susan Lindauer, he also offered to scrap all his non-US oil and telecom foreign deals, serving the country on a platter and basically bending over backwards to placate the US, but the neocons would not have it, they were hell-bent on destroying Iraq.

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(01-14-2020 11:35 AM)911 Wrote:  He was baited into invading Kuwait, having received the green light from a US ambassador, who told him that this wouldn't concern the US. Kuwait was gerrymandered out of Iraq during Sykes-Picot in order to restrict that country's access to the sea.

Prior to the second Gulf War and Iraqi invasion, Saddam offered the US to buy 2 million GM vehicles IIRC, according to CIA/UN negociator/whistleblower Susan Lindauer, he also offered to scrap all his non-US oil and telecom foreign deals, serving the country on a platter and basically bending over backwards to placate the US, but the neocons would not have it, they were hell-bent on destroying Iraq.

IIRC, wasn't Kuwait slant-drilling into Iraqi oil fields?
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Interesting tidbit



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Quote:By the time the Iran–Iraq War ended, Iraq was not in a financial position to repay the 14 billion USD it borrowed from Kuwait to finance its war and requested that Kuwait forgive the debt.[18] Iraq argued that the war had prevented the rise of Iranian hegemony in Kuwait. However, Kuwait's reluctance to pardon the debt strained the relationship between the two countries. In late 1989, several official meetings were held between the Kuwaiti and Iraqi leaders, but they were unable to break the deadlock between the two.

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(01-14-2020 11:14 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  
(01-14-2020 02:01 AM)911 Wrote:  Iraq was doing very well before the first Gulf war, and really well before the Iran war. It had one of the best infrastructures in the developing world, and a thriving, well-educated large middle class, similar to Libya's before that country was dismantled, though the Libyans are less civilized as a people, historically speaking.

I guess that was before your time. Saddam was picked and groomed by the CIA and put in power there. They picked him because he was a thug who would not make a very good leader and would be easier to manipulate. He was so inept at first that he botched their first coup, the CIA managed to put him in charge on the second attempt a few years later.

Why did Saddam invade Kuwait? He had to know it would stir a major response from the West

Because Kuwait was drilling across state lines and stealing their oil. After a lot of warnings that seems like a good excuse for war. But when the usual suspects got involved in the media and start spreading fake news about Iraqi soldiers killing babies in incubators, American intervention seemed a little more palatable and popular.
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https://www.axios.com/border-numbers-dec...614d4.html

President Trump has successfully built an immigration wall that has proven impenetrable for tens of thousands of migrants — it's just not the physical one he and others obsess about.

What's happening: The number of attempted border crossings is falling, and denial rates are climbing. The very nations most migrants flee from are now the nations where asylum seekers are being sent.

The big picture: Over the last few months, the Trump administration has begun implementing its asylum agreements with Central American nations, which could help keep asylum seekers out of the U.S.

They're sending Hondurans to Guatemala — the origin nation for the highest number of migrants who reached the U.S. border last year.

Officials could begin kicking Mexican, Central American and South American asylum seekers to Honduras or El Salvador as well — even if they are not from there — once the details of those agreements are worked out and put in motion.

The final details of the Honduras agreement will be implemented soon, DHS acting secretary Chad Wolf said last Thursday. The Honduran Foreign Relations minister has said the country agreed to accept migrants from Mexico, Brazil, Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador, La Prensa reports.

The administration planned to begin removing Mexican asylum seekers to Guatemala, although the plan is temporarily on hold after broad backlash, according to Buzzfeed's Hamed Aleaziz.

More than 50,000 Central American asylum seekers have already been forced to wait out their legal cases in Mexico under the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP) — "Remain in Mexico." The program is expected to expand.
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A littie fun clip for ya guys:

Here you have actor Vince Vaughn hanging out for a bit with Donald Trump at the College Football National Championship between the Louisiana State University Tigers vs. the Clemson University Tigers (LSU won 42 to 25) which took place at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana yesterday (January 13, 2020).







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That dude between Putin and the priest.

When you're level 99 excited to be there but trying to stay chill. Laugh

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(01-13-2020 04:03 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  
(01-11-2020 05:39 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  
(01-11-2020 05:33 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/jus...li=BBU4PL8

Quote:Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.

John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.

As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.
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The law and order crowd are looking at increasingly long odds that this is all just building to a momentous killing blow.

Well, a major part of the Q phenomenon was that Huber was the key to everything and was going to line up traitors and have them executed for treason, in Utah, by firing squad. If the Huber investigation amounts to nothing, I guess we'll all clearly see the truth about Q (who continually promised things like "the mother of all bombs" and "public disclosure" and "indictments in 2019" and other things that never happened). I went back and forth on Q for a long time but this would certainly settle it for me.

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^It really is endless.

People will still be hamstering this stuff years after Trump leaves the Whitehouse as the last Republican president ever to take office.

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How absurd. Waste of taxpayers' dollars on a bunch of pens.
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Also if anyone's curious, that priest with Assad and Putin is Patriarch John X of Antioch, the leader of the Antiochian Archdiocese.

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Why not take it one step further.

Come to Damascus Mr Trump, meet with us, and perhaps you might see who your true masters are. You will be blind to the evil that surrounds you no longer.
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LOLOLOL CURSE OF TRUMP STRIKES AGAIN!

Red Sox manager Alex Cora the Mastermind of pitch signal stealing at the Houston Astros and then Boston Red Sox during both team's World Series victories and who refused to visit the White House due to Trump's not rebuilding Cora's country Puerto Rico faster after Hurricane Maria devastating cat 5 effects... Cora has been fired by the Bosox and will likely face a lengthy MLB suspension and fines... Bye bye $4M a year... Trump wins again.

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