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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
If there's any most opportune time in history for a guy like Trump to win, now is it;

1. We're entering the lame duck years of the most liberal, arguably Marxist president we've ever had. A smooth talking, dishonest salesman ( "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. "Insurance costs won't go up for anyone, if anything they'll go down" et al) steeped in anti business , anti capitalism leanings, Obama presents a rallying point for those Americans that are fed up with the way in which he (perceived or real) has weakened this country.

2. The alternatives are Bush - a milque toast compromiser it seems at this point. And, barring Rand Paul or Ted Cruz, most of the others are considered establishment Republicans.

3. Trump is the antithesis of Obama in most every sense;
* A successful businessman who proved himself in the real world by building an empire. I know he had help, but what he did with what he started with is indicative of his ability to get things done in the real world.
* An unapologestic , unvarnished plain speaker who advocates putting the interests of our country above all other things.
* At this point, he seems to be putting his principles above all other interests as he's losing endorsements left and right and yet he ploughs on.
* To those more traditional voters who in the past sat out Mitt Romney, McCain, etc and would possibly sit out voting for a candidate like Jeb Bush or some other establishment republican, would most certainly get off their ass and high tail to the polls to vote for a "breath of fresh air" like the Donald. He will definitely motivate those voters who feel they've been let down by the Republican party and who are fed up with what they see Obama and his ilk (the liberal weighted Supreme Court) doing to this country.

I still believe his getting the candidacy is a bit of a long shot over a Bush but if Trump is going to strike, now, in this window of history and political climate, is the best time for him to do so. It's the best time for a candidate like himself to get the most bang for his buck. The stars are, in a sense, aligned for him.

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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
It's a joke that people say Trump can't win as if Jeb Bush could win. No one is gonna vote for a Bush.

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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
(07-03-2015 10:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a joke that people say Trump can't win as if Jeb Bush could win. No one is gonna vote for a Bush.

Name a New Yorker or Pauly Walnuts type from the east coast thats held a national office.

Edit: In the last 70 years
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(07-03-2015 10:19 AM)Vaun Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 10:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a joke that people say Trump can't win as if Jeb Bush could win. No one is gonna vote for a Bush.

Name a New Yorker or Pauly Walnuts type from the east coast thats held a national office.

Edit: In the last 70 years

Who cares Bush isn't gonna win

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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
(07-03-2015 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 10:19 AM)Vaun Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 10:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a joke that people say Trump can't win as if Jeb Bush could win. No one is gonna vote for a Bush.

Name a New Yorker or Pauly Walnuts type from the east coast thats held a national office.

Edit: In the last 70 years

Who cares Bush isn't gonna win

haha yeah you're right about that, is there one of these clown republicans that should be president?
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(07-03-2015 10:26 AM)Vaun Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 10:19 AM)Vaun Wrote:  
(07-03-2015 10:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a joke that people say Trump can't win as if Jeb Bush could win. No one is gonna vote for a Bush.

Name a New Yorker or Pauly Walnuts type from the east coast thats held a national office.

Edit: In the last 70 years

Who cares Bush isn't gonna win

haha yeah you're right about that, is there one of these clown republicans that should be president?

There isn't any point to thinking in terms of elections anymore. America is completely corrupted and way past the point of democracy. Most American natives haven't caught on to this fact yet, but worrying about whether or not your candidate can take nationals is silly.

The point is to appoint the best leader possible to represent your interests. I believe Trump represents native hetrosexual men better than any other candidate right now. I'd give it to Rand Paul but he lacks his own money supply unlike Trump.

Whether or not Trump takes the nationals, which are rigged and full of illegal aliens voting for President, makes no difference to the outcome of Hillary being put in charge. The point is if he takes the Republican primaries then you've got a strong leader who will fight for his people through the next Civil War.

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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
Trump has always been a novelly candidate for President. I just read his comments about illegals/mexicans for myself. I can't imagine a candidate saying such toxic stuff if he knew he had a legitimate chance at being elected President. Obviously Trump has something up his sleeve. He's stirring the pot to make $$$ for himself, or stick it back to some media rivals, or he's willing to be a sacrificial lamb to bring a controversy no one near his level of power has had the gall to bring to the forefront of American politics.
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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
Trump has jumped on that recent killing by a guy who was deported 5 times.
He's come out swinging.
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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
(07-03-2015 05:09 AM)TheNinja Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 12:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  DeepDiver literally dove deep into this myriad.

And...there isn't much I can't disagree on his essay - I might of changed my mind.

That was a GREAT breakdown.

(06-19-2015 12:45 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  The thing I liked in his speech was adding a 35% tariff to companies making products overseas and selling them here like ford. I really like his fiscal ideas, but his foreign policy is a bit worrying.

I'm a Chinese dude educated in the states, so let me play the devil's advocate here and show you the other side of the coin.

I think people underestimate how cheap overseas products help the day to day lives of Americans. . . .


Thank you for this post. I'm glad someone knows how these things work. . .I mean really a 35% tarrif? that's beyond stupid. The rest of your post was spot on.

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My problem with Trump is his is probably not really running for President. He is mainly about raising his profile and satisfying his ego.

The dude has "cried wolf" way too many damn times regarding running for President to be reliable.
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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
(06-26-2015 01:07 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Got to love it when a guy who has real independent self made multi-billionaire FU money also happens to love the country and wants to see it defended against the five major attacks and outright wars against the USA I enumerated in my essay upthread.

The mega billionaire Bloombergs and Kochs and Soros camps out to get as much as they can and damn the Americans could learn from Trump.

Ha, hes not self made. He inherited about $200 million in cash, and about 15000 nyc apartments upon his father's death.
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(07-02-2015 09:36 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  Lets be real. Trump will never win because too many voters won't ever take him seriously. Your president will be Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton. How many woman do you think will actually vote for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton? 10% maybe?

Hes a great businessman but not someone I'd want to run the country.

I don't think hes a great business man. From what I understand, when he inherited his father's money, if he had invested the money in very very low risk CDs, he would have about the same amount of money that he has today.

Hes a great self promoter, and seems to have fun doing it, but I don't think he is any kind of brilliant businessman.
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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
By making that comment on Mexicans Trump cut his own hand off and sort of excluded himself from the presidency

that's a shame because some of his other ideas are pretty good and solid, but people will now see him as a racist clown.

I guess he just doesn't care as he got the bucks to put himself in the spotlight for a while before vanishing in the haze again

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(07-04-2015 04:59 AM)Tex Pro Wrote:  My problem with Trump is his is probably not really running for President. He is mainly about raising his profile and satisfying his ego.

The dude has "cried wolf" way too many damn times regarding running for President to be reliable.

Still sounds better than Obama.
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(07-04-2015 08:15 AM)michelin Wrote:  By making that comment on Mexicans Trump cut his own hand off and sort of excluded himself from the presidency

that's a shame because some of his other ideas are pretty good and solid, but people will now see him as a racist clown.

I guess he just doesn't care as he got the bucks to put himself in the spotlight for a while before vanishing in the haze again


I think it's deliberate. He knows that there's a massive frustration with immigration policy in America, both from the average middle class people who are leasing jobs, people who have been forced to train their own replacements, and so on. Interestingly enough the most vitriolic hatred towards the illegal immigrants tends to come from people who traveled legally and went through the hassle of dealing with immigration services themselves.

He's also counting on another factor: economic declines historically result in an emergence of Xenophobic sentiment. He knows what is coming and is setting himself up to take advantage of it.
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RE: The Trump Card: Donald Wants To Fire Obama
(07-04-2015 02:05 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  Trump has always been a novelly candidate for President. I just read his comments about illegals/mexicans for myself. I can't imagine a candidate saying such toxic stuff if he knew he had a legitimate chance at being elected President. Obviously Trump has something up his sleeve. He's stirring the pot to make $$$ for himself, or stick it back to some media rivals, or he's willing to be a sacrificial lamb to bring a controversy no one near his level of power has had the gall to bring to the forefront of American politics.



More likely stick it to his rivals, because I don't see how he's making money when he's lost close to $100,000 million dollars already for his Mexican comments.
https://news.vice.com/article/donald-tru...f-mexicans

The guy is losing sponsors left and right. NASCAR just came out yesterday saying they are cutting ties with him too.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nas.../29674827/

This has done nothing but piss a bunch of people off.


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Wow that was a good read.
Trump will withdraw from the race like he always does.
More DeepDiver please!!!
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Your politicians sold out America along time ago, so talking about who is better is like comparing a Gremlin car to a Pinto.
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Rand Paul is not going to get anywhere near the White House.

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Trump is 69 years old and worth $9,000,000,000. I don't think he is worried about what a bunch of feel sorry for themselves SJW and chickenshit corporations who are now pissing off the majority of American people think. Now he is pushing further, I think he is serious about running.

From what I understand he inherited around $10,000,000 and turned it into $9,000,000,000. He has siblings who inherited just as much that to this day no one even knows that they exist or if they even have money. He has done more in his life and accomplished more than 99% of men get to do. He went from owning middle class housing in the NYC to becoming a real estate mogul owning property all around the country. The risks he took and won with were huge. And he is the first candidate who seems to halfway support men and families.

There are a lot of people on the right who are sick of the open border and the violence is creates and the police state that it in turns pushes into their lives. But they continually watch the Republicans chickenshit out and do nothing about it. There are far more people in the middle who don't follow politics who are saying "finally, someone who tells the truth and when the chickenshit corporations who are trying to out source our lives don't like it, it tells me how important this election is" and are getting excited.

I think if he sticks by his guns, he has a real shot. Especially if he can get on stage and trap that little rat Jeb Bush in a debate on the border after he has said he is for an open border.
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I will say this.

I'm looking forward to seeing Trump in the Republican debates. It will be interesting to see him and Jeb Bush debate on this.

Immigration is that issue that a lot of politicians don't like to touch, especially Republicans because it could win or kill an election depending on what stance you're on. For instance I remember Mitt Romney during the Republican primaries in 2012 ran on "self-deportation" and that he will veto the DREAM Act. He was the toughest on immigration out of the other guys so he got a lot of the white conservative vote. But once he got to the national election he had to cut back a little and refrain from his statements, but by then it was too late and Obama used it as ammunition to attack him and the end was history.

Trump on the other hand is going all in. His strategy is to get as much as the white vote as he can because really white people are still the majority in the country. While Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are trying to get some Hispanic votes, Trump is saying screw that I'm going for the white vote. He's probably thinking "well Hispanics and Blacks are going to vote democrat anyway, I'm going all in for the white vote and try to get me some liberal white votes as well." Its a good strategy. Will see how it goes for him.
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Trump is playing this well, every 4 years he announces his candidacy and starts some shitstorm.

Why?

Because he needs his name to stay relevant to increase his brand's value.

If people don't hear about him, he cannot charge high prices.

Yet people act with their emotions like little girls and either 1 - support him or 2 - shame hi,

He's using everyone as a tool.

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(07-04-2015 01:17 PM)MidWest Wrote:  I will say this.

I'm looking forward to seeing Trump in the Republican debates. It will be interesting to see him and Jeb Bush debate on this.

Immigration is that issue that a lot of politicians don't like to touch, especially Republicans because it could win or kill an election depending on what stance you're on. For instance I remember Mitt Romney during the Republican primaries in 2012 ran on "self-deportation" and that he will veto the DREAM Act. He was the toughest on immigration out of the other guys so he got a lot of the white conservative vote. But once he got to the national election he had to cut back a little and refrain from his statements, but by then it was too late and Obama used it as ammunition to attack him and the end was history.

Trump on the other hand is going all in. His strategy is to get as much as the white vote as he can because really white people are still the majority in the country. While Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are trying to get some Hispanic votes, Trump is saying screw that I'm going for the white vote. He's probably thinking "well Hispanics and Blacks are going to vote democrat anyway, I'm going all in for the white vote and try to get me some liberal white votes as well." Its a good strategy. Will see how it goes for him.

I don't know why you and people with your mindset thinks this is about race.

This isn't about race. This is about social order. You can't have a wide open border and consider your country safe. The effects of the open border hurt minorities FAR more than it does white people. If anyone were to be excited about Trump, it should be in this order...

#1) Legal Immigrants who have had to spend years and thousands of dollars trying to do it the right way all to watch someone else cut in line who is not as deserving.

#2) Hispanics. The destruction the open border causes Hispanics is felt on both sides on the border. Here there are less opportunities and a less comfortable life. They come to a new country and learn a new language only to watch their opportunities disappear. And then those on the south side of the border. The drug cartels, the violence, the raping of children and women all due to the open border is a travesty. The Hispanics should be more upset about the open border than anyone else due to the destruction is causes in their communities.

#3) African Americans. The flux of illegal aliens has severely cut their job opportunities.

#4) Then last would be the Whites and Asians who are probably affected the least, but are still affected and are sick and tired of it.
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(07-04-2015 01:22 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Trump is playing this well, every 4 years he announces his candidacy and starts some shitstorm.

Why?

Because he needs his name to stay relevant to increase his brand's value.

If people don't hear about him, he cannot charge high prices.

Yet people act with their emotions like little girls and either 1 - support him or 2 - shame hi,

He's using everyone as a tool.

We will see. But now he is doubling down on his stances it appears he might be serious.
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It_is_my_time is correct....black americans should be voting Trump.

The NAACP is already suing a state over funding which was supposed to go to majority black schools is being sent to mexicans instead. this is just the beginning, as mexicans become the majority noone will need the black vote anymore and they will lose funding.

IDK why more black Americans don't see what a threat Mexicans are. Academia and media are relentlessly attacking anyone who suggests you should look out for their own people. We are handing over the country to them.
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The Prince George’s County chapter of the NAACP calls the facilities “separate but unequal,” and its president, Bob Ross, fears that money for the schools will be diverted from black schoolchildren
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Seriously, Hispanic gangs cleanse Los Angeles neighborhoods of blacks.
This is why blacks oppose immigration/amnesty 3:1. Whites oppose it 2:1.
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100,000 people have died in the war on drugs in Mexico during the past 10 years. Mexico is in bad shape. Trump calls Mexico out and the whole place pulls together against Trump. Fact. A Mexican's worst enemy is another Mexican. They fuck each other over to no end. The powers that be in Mexico consider it a gift to be able to pin their misery on Trump legit or not.

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