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(02-28-2016 11:58 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Donald Trump was just on Meet the Press and Chuck Todd tried to grill him about his quote from Mussolini that "it's better to live a lion for a day than 100 years as a sheep." Chuck asked him if he really wanted to be associated with a Fascist?

Trump replied:

"I want to be associated with interesting quotes. It's a very good quote, I knew who was doing it and I have millions of followers, so it gets people talking. It certainly got you talking."

Ohshit

Just another reason I love Trump - this is exactly what I was thinking when this "scandal" happened, or past times it's occurred.

A great quote is "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"; it's a true quote worth saying, right? Except the quote is misattributed to Voltaire and actually comes from a white nationalist neo-nazi so as a result, we can't use this great quote.

Once again, Trump rewriting the playbook - it's a great quote, I'll use it, fuck where it comes from.
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(02-28-2016 11:35 AM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Speaking of racism, Trump just dodged question about condemning David Duke, saying he didn't know anything about Duke and his group and hence can't really condemning them. He said he disavowed David Duke's endorsement not long ago, which meant he must know something about Duke. So I wonder why he's dodging it now. To be sure, straight-out racists are voting for Trump. 20% of his supporters South Carolina disapproved of Lincoln's abolitionism, and 17% said they're not sure. So it's possible he wants to keep that portion of votes, while maintaining some plausible deniability.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...david-duke

It is also possible that he will come out condemning them some time later though. Something similar happened when two guy beating a Mexican yelled his name. At first he said his supporters were... passionate. Then he said he wouldn't condone violence. This delayed disavowal may serve to signal that: 'Hey you fuckers, I don't reject your support and you can keep whatever fucked up views you have, but don't do anything rash and damage my chance, okay?'

Could be just to keep the votes.
Could also be that he's actually aware of the issue and is willing to do something about it yet he knows he can't be too obvious because it would actually hurt him. Just like he didn't want to name "the side which is full of hatred" in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Hannity then said it's the Palestinians but Trump didn't even acknowledge it.
In a recent press-conference a reporter asked him about the Duke endorsement and Trump said something like "David Duke endorsed me? Whatever, I haven't heard about it. - Next question."
He obviously knows who David Duke is and thus he also knows what he stands for. I'm also not sure his retweeting of White Genocide Twitter-accounts was all by chance. Yes, he got media-attention, which was to be expected, but he might also be sending messages.
But it could also be that I'm just falling for him using Law 27:
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Scott Adams disavows Trump because he asked for more information before condemning the KKK.

   

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(02-28-2016 11:19 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  This is entirely too optimistic. We can view "racism" in one of two ways: a real ideological construct that you believe in, or as a useful tool to advance your agenda.

For brainwashed whites, racism is the former. In their minds, racism is this dark, evil force that emanates from all heterosexual white males and must be eradicated at all cost. Their belief in racism is total, and there is nothing that exceeds racism in pure unadulterated darkness so far as they are concerned. This manifestation of "racism" is to a large degree artificial: I didn't use the word brainwashed idly. If the social narrative changes, the ideological power of "racism" can easily go poof and disappear. The weak minded whites who swallowed the racism schtick hook line and sinker will just move on to some other bullshit to occupy their weak minds.

It is the other form of racism that will prove to be far more enduring, even if Trump becomes president and ends up being all that we hope he will be. This form of "racism" will derive its power from the gigantic and irreversible demographic tectonic shift that has changed the USA in the last half century. In just a decade or two, the population will be almost evenly split between whites and "people of color." Identity politics already dominates political discourse today, and this will only get more intense as the demographic balance shifts even further against whites. The demographic minorities have been gunning for control of the money, status, and institutions currently held in white hands, and their boldness and aggressiveness in seeking that control will increase in tandem with their demographic and political power.

And guess what will be their favored tool in this zero-sum game for control over resources? It will be cries of racism. Racism, far from disappearing down the memory hole, is only in its infancy as a part of public life. There has always been conflict between tribes, and 8 years of Trump will not change this immutable law of human history and very human nature. While minorities are still minorities, their quest for resources hinge on appeals to racism and the willingness of the (white) majority to assign this word "racism" real meaning and power. When the demographic balance will be more evenly matched in the future, this quest for resources will evolve past appeals to white people's guilt and into aggressive demands justified not by fairness but by demographic truth on the ground, with "racism" cynically bandied about as an empty rhetorical tool but not fooling anyone.

Finally, at the last stage when the demographic balance turns decisively against whites, there will no longer be any reason to couch the struggle for resources in any ideological camouflage, and the resources will be taken by force. That will finally be the point at which "racism" will pass out of the common lexicon, because by then, the justification for redistribution will simply be that most ancient and irrefutable logic: might makes right.

But that is still some decades hence. For now, expect that racism will play a larger and larger part of the narrative, regardless of what happens in the elections. Demography trumps everything, even Trump himself.

Let me be the first to say that it is clear that Trump is no racist. He is a firm believer in meritocracy of individuals, regardless of race (or even gender, the rare times that does happen). I am absolutely convinced that Ben Carson will be given a place in Trump's cabinet, and Carson deserves it. Unfortunately, it probably still won't bring out the black vote in favor of Trump, but I guess it's something.

However, I'm also expecting a lot of increasingly racial politics in the next few years. This is not going to be good for minority men who support conservative principles. It is also not going to be good for guys who are mixed race like myself. I think that a Trump president will at least placate some of the racial tensions that have been flaring up consistently since Obama took office, and I think that Trump's policies will benefit everyone in this country. But I am convinced that if Trump loses the election, or God forbid is outright assassinated, we are going to see a race war. And we minorities are not going to win if it comes to that. I truly hope that Trump's policies can help reverse the demographic decline of our country, and I believe that this country should be dominantly white. But if Donald J. Trump is not sworn in next January, I am predicting increased racial tensions, culminating with either a return of segregation that will make Jim Crow seem like nothing or a full on race war.
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(02-28-2016 12:34 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Scott Adams disavows Trump because he asked for more information before condemning the KKK.



https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/statu...6477688832

Oh, well that changes everything. Now that God King Scott Adams has spoken, I can no longer support Trump in good conscience.
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(02-28-2016 12:17 PM)Travesty Wrote:  
(02-28-2016 12:07 PM)dispenser Wrote:  Most whites are completely oblivious to this, due to being stuck in the old monoethnic, small town state of mind. There's a really shocking naiveté, which I suppose can be blamed on the whole protestant ethic. Boyscout nation. Well, the boyscouts and their SJW cousins are in for a rough decade...

This naivete Made America Great in the first place.

And it's Making Sweden Great even as we speak.

No, greatness is not doled out by God for helping old ladies cross the street, returning lost wallets, or bringing refugees to Minnesota.

It's won by hard work, competitiveness, and defence of what you have.

What the US is only just beginning to realise is that they have limited resources. God has not written them a blank cheque. They need to preserve their resources and stop getting bled dry by foreigners. Unfortunately, the SJWs, Cuckservatives and other boyscouts are still stuck in the past.

The likes of Vicente Fox want to speed up the disintegration of the old white, monoethnic America, because it would mean that people like him would be upper caste from Patagonia to Montreal. He has nothing to lose but rivals. This goes for white globalists in the US, too. This isn't the kind of ruthless strategy a boyscout could produce...
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(02-28-2016 12:34 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Scott Adams disavows Trump because he asked for more information before condemning the KKK.


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(02-28-2016 12:34 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Scott Adams disavows Trump because he asked for more information before condemning the KKK.



https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/statu...6477688832

Man for all the talk on this forum about how smart this guy is he has 19k Twitter followers?

Fuck him.

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(02-28-2016 12:34 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Scott Adams disavows Trump because he asked for more information before condemning the KKK.



https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/statu...6477688832

Oh geez. Here comes the latest round of media manipulation; because he didn't grovel and apologize, they're going to misquote him.

If his illegal immigration commentary turned into "Trump hates immigration/all Mexicans/Trump's a racist", this could be an even more amplified version of that. All because he didn't grovel and apologize?

Then again, if I was a known entity and held extremely unpopular views, and somebody I supported was in the lead, I'd keep my damn mouth shut. Why would Duke even "endorse" Trump? what a dumbass.
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Unfortunately Trump backed down and disavowed on twitter. Should have reframed. "I want the vote of every legal taxpaying American who wants to make this country great again."
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(02-28-2016 12:34 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Scott Adams disavows Trump because he asked for more information before condemning the KKK.

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What a cuck! Incredible.

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David Duke? Scott Adams?

A KKK "Wizard" and a cartoonist. Talk about bastions of intellect. Who the fuck cares about either one of these nothings?

Donald Trump could go on TV and eat live kittens tail first and I'd still vote for him.

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Could a president-elect Trump be impeached even before his term begins? It only takes 50% of the House and 66% of the Senate to impeach the president. Assuming all Democrats are against him, and half the Republicans are, it's easy to see how his presidency could be very short-lived.

I continue to be very skeptical about his candidacy. Just because someone is against the corrupt globalist system, doesn't mean he is the right answer. It also worries me how this forum is so pro-Trump...like he can do no wrong. Is there anything he can say/do that would cause you to change your opinion about him? If the answer to that is no, that's a serious problem.
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(02-28-2016 01:09 PM)jasond Wrote:  Could a president-elect Trump be impeached even before his term begins? It only takes 50% of the House and 66% of the Senate to impeach the president. Assuming all Democrats are against him, and half the Republicans are, it's easy to see how his presidency could be very short-lived.

I continue to be very skeptical about his candidacy. Just because someone is against the corrupt globalist system, doesn't mean he is the right answer. It also worries me how this forum is so pro-Trump...like he can do no wrong. Is there anything he can say/do that would cause you to change your opinion about him? If the answer to that is no, that's a serious problem.

I think a lot of us realize that it's Trump or bust. If you vote for anyone else its the same slow ass fucking we've received forever. With Trump, there's at least a sliver of hope that a few things could change.
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(02-28-2016 01:09 PM)jasond Wrote:  Could a president-elect Trump be impeached even before his term begins? It only takes 50% of the House and 66% of the Senate to impeach the president. Assuming all Democrats are against him, and half the Republicans are, it's easy to see how his presidency could be very short-lived.

So we should just roll over and die?

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(02-28-2016 01:09 PM)jasond Wrote:  Could a president-elect Trump be impeached even before his term begins? It only takes 50% of the House and 66% of the Senate to impeach the president. Assuming all Democrats are against him, and half the Republicans are, it's easy to see how his presidency could be very short-lived.

Yeah they could do that if they want another Civil War on their hands

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Scott lives in the bay area of California. By this alone we know he has lost valuable friends and business partners for posting his articles analyzing Trump.

This tweet is a knee-jerk reaction. He has been pre-sold on the Trump-is-a-racist argument, or at the last swum around in the gish gallop. There is a 50/50 chance he will be a bit stunned by how emotional his reaction was. Then he will analyze why he did it and take his first step down the road of realizing his own conditioning.

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(02-28-2016 01:09 PM)jasond Wrote:  Could a president-elect Trump be impeached even before his term begins? It only takes 50% of the House and 66% of the Senate to impeach the president. Assuming all Democrats are against him, and half the Republicans are, it's easy to see how his presidency could be very short-lived.

I continue to be very skeptical about his candidacy. Just because someone is against the corrupt globalist system, doesn't mean he is the right answer. It also worries me how this forum is so pro-Trump...like he can do no wrong. Is there anything he can say/do that would cause you to change your opinion about him? If the answer to that is no, that's a serious problem.

Of course there's stuff he could say to change my mind. Like "I'm going to invite 2 million Syrian refugees in".

Most of the complaints people have about Trump other than purely ideological are either piddly bullshit--"He's mean!"--or because they're used to career politicians behaving a specific way, and that's exactly what Trump is not.
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Only leftist media outlets are going with the trump won't denounce kkk leader but then again they have been calling him a neo-nazi for months. CNN.com is going with it because it was an interview with Jake Tapper where he said, "i don't know anything about it, we would have to look at the group, if its bad or not". Which is a pretty reasonable answer. On their cnn.com article they are actually including trumps "i disavow" video during the christie endorsement press conference.

this is just a bunch of nothing, the huff post had "racist, bigot, mysogonist wins new hampshire, and golden don" as headlines before. Nobody cares.

Also the oscars are tonight, different headlines tonight and tomorrow. Probably "Chris rock Genius diversity response" and "Revenant cleans up"
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Did the media go into frenzy when Senator Robert Byrd, who was in the KKK, endorsed Obama in 2008?

Honestly, fuck the media.
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This Duke/KKK hysteria is ludicrous. Trump is very obviously not a hater or a racist type, he is the opposite of that: he is an unusually inclusive guy who can relate intimately to all sorts of people, from Connecticut WASPs to Oprah and Mike Tyson. The reason for that odd CNN interview is that it is almost physically difficult for him to "disavow" anyone who supports him; his instinct is to have everyone on board, and he also loves himself enough to feel that if someone supports him, they must have at least something going for them. That's why his "disavowals" feel incredibly forced and unnatural, unlike all his other tweets and statements. All of this should be obvious to anyone with half a brain, which makes Adams' hysterical reaction truly preposterous.

I don't think the racism/KKK story will stick to Trump because normal people can see that he's nothing of the sort. If it gets any legs, he should send Katrina Pierson out to do a round of various news shows, and then make some focusing statements tomorrow about his -- evidently real and unaffected -- LOVE for blacks, hispanics, and other groups. He can speak from the heart and that should be that.

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(02-28-2016 01:35 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  Did the media go into frenzy when Senator Robert Byrd, who was in the KKK, endorsed Obama in 2008?

Honestly, fuck the media.

They did but in a positive way: Former KKK member, endorses the man tha can the first black president, what a glorious time to be alive, the world is changing. Those was the headlines back then.
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It would be epic if Trump actually laid out a trap for the shills and everyone stepped in it.
Imagine this: he doesn't reveal his tax-returns right now so the opponents all try to use it against him --> huge media-attention. Everyone speculates that maybe he didn't give that much to charity or had some other fishy business going on.

Later he publishes his tax-returns and it turns out he gave millions to charities and everything is top-notch. Free positive PR once again.

I actually can't imagine that there's anything wrong with his taxes since he says he's been audited for years. If there was anything wrong, I think it would've come up by now.
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