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(01-21-2017 09:28 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  
Quote:I look forward to the day when my kids learn about Donald J Trump in school. And I take them to the Trump monument in DC.

Now I have to start going to church again to find a woman worthy of breeding with.

Yup. I'm actively in wife search mode too. A solid church starts with a solid pastor. Don't attend church run by a cuck. The real churches are ones where they actually preach about sin and teach people to lead good lives.

Can't wait to find my Trump supporting babe. I'm going to tell her unapologetically that her job is to have my babies. I've even used this opener with a huge grin with women and overwhelmingly the response has been disbelief, but they don't run away. It is bold, and there's truth behind it.

Women, deep down, know they are meant for mothering, not to be the POTUS.

I was born and raised Catholic, but the Catholic Church is so cucked now from top to bottom, I just can't bring myself to go. Plus I'm really an agnostic at heart.
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The Devil is very real, and John Podesta, Soros, Clinton et al worship him. Those who doubt this do so at their own peril. We almost had a Satanist in the White House. I'm not sure what we did as a nation to deserve God's mercy to avoid that happening, but I say we make the most of the present day to help Trump rebuild our nation on masculine virtue. If you read the Bible and other Early Church Fathers, you'll see there's plenty of timeless wisdom in there. The whole Women's March is just a rebellion against rightful masculine authority. Why do you think feminists hate Jesus? He was a masculine patriarch of patriarchs. Jesus had game, and Jesus had frame.

Further reading:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/04/...-had-game/

Quote:Jesus wept? Oh no, my friends. Jesus charmed!

Jesus, like so many leading protagonists in the great books for men, had game, and used it to mesmerize the fuck outta his audiences of admirers. There’s a direct line throughout history leading from the thorny crown to the furry hat. Jesus was mystery, and Jesus was the first Mystery.

Proof of Jesus’ mad skills with the coy doubters comes to us via this nifty list of his best follower pickups.

One of the best-described of all charismatic leaders is Jesus. About 90 face-to-face encounters with Jesus are described in the four gospels of the New Testament.

Notice what happens:

The Son of God is about to raise your buying temperature.

Jesus is sitting on the ground, teaching to a crowd in the outer courtyard of the temple at Jerusalem. The Pharisees, righteous upholders of traditional ritual and law, haul before him a woman taken in adultery. They make her stand in front of the crowd and say to Jesus: “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The Law commands us to stone her to death. What do you say?”

The text goes on that Jesus does not look up at them, but continues to write in the dirt with his finger. This would not be unusual; Archimedes wrote geometric figures in the dust, and in the absence of ready writing materials the ground would serve as a chalkboard. The point is that Jesus does not reply right away; he lets them stew in their uneasiness.

Jesus used tension to build attraction.

Minutes go by. One by one, the crowd starts to slip away, the older ones first– the young hotheads being the ones who do the stoning, as in the most primitive parts of the Middle East today.

Finally Jesus is left with the woman standing before him. Jesus straightens up and asks her: “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She answers: “No one.” “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus says. “Go now and sin no more.” (John 8: 1-11)

Jesus is a master of timing. He does not allow people to force him into their rhythm, their definition of the situation. He perceives what they are attempting to do, the intention beyond the words. And he makes them shift their ground.

Jesus forced others into his frame.

He does not allow the encounter to focus on himself against the Pharisees. He knows they are testing him, trying to make him say something in violation of the law; or else back down in front of his followers. Instead Jesus throws it back on their own consciences, their inner reflections about the woman they are going to kill. He individualizes the crowd, making them drift off one by one, breaking up the mob mentality.

Jesus passed shit tests.

Jesus is a charismatic leader, indeed the archetype of charisma. Although sociologists tend to treat charisma as an abstraction, it is observable in everyday life. We are viewing the elements of it, in the encounters of Jesus with the people around him.

Game is applied charisma. I wonder if Jesus was a Dark Triad? Or should I say, Dark Trinity?

(1) Jesus always wins an encounter […]

Jesus never lets anyone determine the conversational sequence. He answers questions with questions, putting the interlocutor on the defensive. An example, from early in his career of preaching around Galilee:

Jesus has been invited to dinner at the house of a Pharisee. A prostitute comes in and falls at his feet, wets his feet with her tears, kisses them and pours perfume on them. The Pharisee said to himself, “If this man is a prophet, he would know what kind of woman is touching him– that she is a sinner.”

Jesus, reading his thoughts, said to him: “I have something to tell you.” “Tell me,” he said. Jesus proceeded to tell a story about two men who owed money, neither of whom could repay the moneylender. He forgives them both, the one who owes 500 and the one who owes 50. Jesus asked: “Which of the two will love him more?” “The one who had the bigger debt forgiven,” the Pharisee replied. “You are correct,” Jesus said. “Do you see this woman? You did not give me water for my feet, but this woman wet them with her tears and dried them with her hair… Therefore her many sins have been forgiven– as her great love has shown.”

Jesus doesn’t follow conversational threads like an attention starved beta; he breaks them and makes his own. He answers ambiguously. He puts people in the defensive crouch, where tingles are born. Jesus follows the statement-statement-question format of effective discourse control.

The priests send spies, hoping to catch Jesus in saying something so that they might hand him over to the Roman governor. So they asked: “Is it right for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”

Jesus knowing their evil intent, said to them, “Show me the coin used to pay taxes.” When they brought it, he said, “Whose image is on it?” “Caesar’s,” they replied. “Then give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” And they were astonished by his answer, and were silent.

Jesus the charismatic alpha male was unpredictable. You expect him to say one thing; he says another. AMOGs show deference and vaginas weep on cue.

(2) Jesus is quick and absolutely decisive

As his mission is taking off in Galilee, followers flock to hear him. Some he invites to come with him. It is a life-changing decision.

A man said to him: “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” Jesus replied: “Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead.”

It is a shocking demand. In a ritually pious society, there is nothing more important that burying your father. Jesus demands a complete break with existing social forms; those who follow them, he implies, are dead in spirit.

Chicks hate mincing betaboys. Jesus was not a mincing betaboy. Chicks dig rule breakers. Jesus was definitely a rule breaker.

The Pharisees complained, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?” Jesus replied, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

Jesus perceives who will make a good recruit, and who will not.

Jesus was practiced in the art of target selection.

(3) Jesus always does something unexpected […]

Some of the disciples said indignantly to each other, “Why this waste of perfume? It could have been sold for more than a year’s wages and the money given to the poor.” And they rebuked her harshly.

“Leave her alone,” Jesus said. “She has done a beautiful thing to me. The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me. She did what she could. She poured perfume on my body beforehand to prepare me for my funeral.” (Mark 14: 1-10; Matthew 26: 6-13)

A double jolt. His disciples by now have understood the message about the selfishness of the rich and charity to the poor. But there are circumstances and momentous occasions that transcend even the great doctrine of love thy neighbour. Jesus is zen-like in his unexpectedness. There is a second jolt, and his disciples do not quite get it. Jesus knows he is going to be crucified. He has the political sense to see where the confrontation is headed; in this he is ahead of his followers, who only see his power.

When was the last time you saw an alpha male do the dull, boring thing? Never.

(4) Jesus knows what the other is intending

Jesus is an intelligent observer of the people around him.

Jesus was situationally aware.

He is highly focused on everyone’s moral and social stance, and sees it in the immediate moment. Charismatic people are generally like that; Jesus does it to a superlative degree.

Jesus lived in the moment. Jesus did not suffer “paralysis by analysis”.

Jesus’ perceptiveness helps explain why he dominates his encounters. He surprises interlocutors by unexpectedly jumping from their words, not to what conventionally follows verbally, but instead speaking to what they are really about, skipping the intermediate stages.

Jesus knew how to “elicit values”, and build deep connections with people.

(5) Jesus is master of the crowd […]

Crowds are a major source of Jesus’ power. There is a constant refrain: “The crowds were amazed at his teaching, because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.” His enemies the high priests are afraid of what his crowd of followers will do if they attack Jesus.

Jesus was socially proofed.

[His disciples] are the privileged in-group, and they know it. Jesus admonishes them from time to time about their pride; but he needs them, too. It is another reason why living with Jesus is bracing. There is an additional circuit of charismatic energy in the inner circle.

Push-pull game.

Jesus can still arouse this crowd, but he cannot silence it. He does not back off, but becomes increasingly explicit. The metaphors he does use are not effective. His sheep that he refers to means his own crowd of loyal followers, and Jesus declares he has given them eternal life– but not to this hostile crowd of unbelievers. Words no longer convince; the sides declaim stridently against each other. The eloquent phrases of earlier preaching have fallen into cacophony. Nevertheless Jesus still escapes violence. The crowd is never strong enough to dominate him. Only the organized authorities can take him, and that he does not evade.

Alpha males can be taken down by a state-sanctioned beta male show of force.

(6) Jesus’ down moments

Even an alpha male occasionally gets cockblocked.

Leaving aside the miracle itself and its symbolism, one thing we see in this episode is Jesus conflicted between his mission– to demonstrate the power of resurrection– and his personal feelings for Lazarus and his sisters. Jesus let Lazarus die, by staying away during his sickness, in order to make this demonstration, but in doing so he caused grief to those he loved. The moment when he confronts their pain (amplified by the weeping of the crowd), Jesus himself weeps. It is the only time in the texts when he weeps. It is a glimpse of himself as a human being, as well as a man on a mission.

Vulnerability game.

Finally Jesus is taken before Pilate, the Roman governor. Jesus gives his usual sharp replies, and indeed wins him over. “Are you the King of the Jews?” Pilate asks.

King of the Poon, amirite?

“Is that your own idea,” Jesus asks in return, “or did others talk to you about me?”

“Am I a player? Only if you want me to be.”

In the crises, Jesus’ interactional style remains much the same as always; but the speaking in parables and figurative language has given way to blunt explanations. Parables are for audiences who want to understand. Facing open adversaries, Jesus turns to plain arguments.

Sometimes it’s necessary to drop the flirty banter and aloofness and draw a line in the sand that you don’t want a woman to cross.

Jesus the alpha male. Jesus the PUA (of disciples). Jesus the master of the crimson arts. Men followed him. Powerful men feared him. Prostitutes paid *him*.

Jesus is risen, indeed!

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(01-21-2017 07:29 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Mattis has never been married and has no children.

That he knows of.

(01-21-2017 09:42 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  At what point do we start talking about demonic possession being real?

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(01-21-2017 09:44 PM)Enoch Wrote:  
(01-21-2017 09:28 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  
Quote:I look forward to the day when my kids learn about Donald J Trump in school. And I take them to the Trump monument in DC.

Now I have to start going to church again to find a woman worthy of breeding with.

Yup. I'm actively in wife search mode too. A solid church starts with a solid pastor. Don't attend church run by a cuck. The real churches are ones where they actually preach about sin and teach people to lead good lives.

Can't wait to find my Trump supporting babe. I'm going to tell her unapologetically that her job is to have my babies. I've even used this opener with a huge grin with women and overwhelmingly the response has been disbelief, but they don't run away. It is bold, and there's truth behind it.

Women, deep down, know they are meant for mothering, not to be the POTUS.

I was born and raised Catholic, but the Catholic Church is so cucked now from top to bottom, I just can't bring myself to go. Plus I'm really an agnostic at heart.

Even if you have a hard time believing in the existence of God, ask yourself, on a society-wide level, is there any more proven code of conduct than what Christians are supposed to live up to? Not saying Christians are perfect, we're not. I'm Catholic, and just went to confession today for the sins I've committed in the last two weeks. Faith acts to give a man resolve. While Trump is not an overtly spiritual person, I have no doubt he believes that God exists and he is fighting not only a spiritual war, but also a social/political one. There are many Catholic churches that are cucked, no doubt about that. I don't donate to them. Thankfully, I found an old-school pastor at a new one who actually talks about children respecting their parents, especially their father. He also mentions the importance of sex roles. He lashes out at the addictive qualities of social media and the need to reign them in. He's unapologetically pro-life and anti-feminist. He's red pill on women and actively discourages dating the bad ones, and instead filtering in the good ones. There are good priests out there, just have to search hard to find them. Hopefully we'll see a spiritual revival of the Church, as it is, and always will be, a necessary institution in fighting cultural marxism.

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(01-21-2017 08:24 PM)durangotang Wrote:  Spicer's first glorious press conference. You'll love the ending Big Grin (it starts about 15 seconds in...)




He's so angry. If you gave him a knife not one of these people would leave the room alive. I've never seen a press conference where the speaker was so outright hostile to the press. Even Trump at his angriest didn't come close to this guy.

Is the plan to make him the attack dog, and make Trump look like a careful elder statesman just by comparison? Because if so...

...I love it.
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Well Done Gentleman, Well Done. Let's Make America Great Again!

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At what point do we start talking about demonic possession being real?

The word that came to mind was capering. The thing was actually capering.

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At what point do we start talking about demonic possession being real?

"Available for weddings and children's parties." Laugh

Trump's administration if going to be a brutal nation wide exorcism.
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I'm still a bit in disbelief that President Trump is a real thing.

Here's to a full 8 years.

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(01-21-2017 10:14 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  [quote='durangotang' pid='1491499' dateline='1485048259']
Spicer's first glorious press conference. You'll love the ending Big Grin (it starts about 15 seconds in...)

He's so angry. If you gave him a knife not one of these people would leave the room alive. I've never seen a press conference where the speaker was so outright hostile to the press. Even Trump at his angriest didn't come close to this guy.

Is the plan to make him the attack dog, and make Trump look like a careful elder statesman just by comparison? Because if so...

...I love it.

On substance was an awesome briefing, short and to the point with no punches pulled on the biased old media. Mic drop at the end to whet their appetites.

On style way too many "uh" and "um" pause words and re-starts. I hope he will get better as the admin goes forward.

This is going to be beautiful!
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(01-21-2017 11:01 PM)Adonis Wrote:  
(01-21-2017 10:14 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  [quote='durangotang' pid='1491499' dateline='1485048259']
Spicer's first glorious press conference. You'll love the ending Big Grin (it starts about 15 seconds in...)

He's so angry. If you gave him a knife not one of these people would leave the room alive. I've never seen a press conference where the speaker was so outright hostile to the press. Even Trump at his angriest didn't come close to this guy.

Is the plan to make him the attack dog, and make Trump look like a careful elder statesman just by comparison? Because if so...

...I love it.

On substance was an awesome briefing, short and to the point with no punches pulled on the biased old media. Mic drop at the end to whet their appetites.

On style way too many "uh" and "um" pause words and re-starts. I hope he will get better as the admin goes forward.

This is going to be beautiful!

I'm going to make the charitable assumption, and assume that he was so utterly pissed off that his first press conference at the white house was spent dealing with obvious idiot lies that he was tripping over his own words in fury.
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When a man can't even speak straight due to righteous anger, you'll get a few ums and uhs. That press conference was glorious. You know the media will talking about it for days. Sets the right tone, especially where he said accountability is a two-way street.

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(01-21-2017 10:14 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  
(01-21-2017 08:24 PM)durangotang Wrote:  Spicer's first glorious press conference. You'll love the ending Big Grin (it starts about 15 seconds in...)




He's so angry. If you gave him a knife not one of these people would leave the room alive. I've never seen a press conference where the speaker was so outright hostile to the press. Even Trump at his angriest didn't come close to this guy.

Is the plan to make him the attack dog, and make Trump look like a careful elder statesman just by comparison? Because if so...

...I love it.

Look how mad the press was that he didn't take questions! They were pissed right off! Good! Fuck em'!

I prefer this style of breifings, just give them info and bounce. They won't report honestly so why even take the questions.

MSM is on suicide watch. My bold prediction for 2017 is still that a major media MSM entity will go belly up.
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I'm seeing lots of stuff online about how Obama's inauguration had so much more people attending then Trump's with the side to side pic being posted up over and over again. It wasn't just social media, lots of the big MSM outlets were pushing this story too. The same outlets weren't doing stories about the size of Trump's rallies vs Clinton's hence all the constant calls from Trump during his rallies to turn the camera around. It's almost like all these outlets are collaborating to push a certain storyline. Dodgy
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(01-21-2017 08:24 PM)durangotang Wrote:  Spicer's first glorious press conference. You'll love the ending Big Grin (it starts about 15 seconds in...)




Love it, but dude needs to find a tailor ASAP, the fit of that suit is atrocious.
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^ That's what is known as 'Prole Neck Gap'. Seeing as any good tailor can fix that, there's a tiny chance it's a deliberate affectation to read more 'down to earth' to the working class voters.
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Eh, forget working class. Look sharp! I agree, he needs to get that thing tailored. Trump is a stickler for getting rid of sloppiness. Quality is part of the Trump brand!

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(01-22-2017 04:22 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ^ That's what is known as 'Prole Neck Gap'. Seeing as any good tailor can fix that, there's a tiny chance it's a deliberate affectation to read more 'down to earth' to the working class voters.

A lot of this press conference was a very deliberate affectation. There's no way on Earth Donald Trump, of all people, hired a guy who's incapable of reading from a sheet of paper without tripping over his own tongue. Trump's been hiring people to give press conferences since before the days of disco. There's no way that Spicer is genuinely that angry about some dumbass tweets on the internet. There's no way the White House, of all the places in the world, doesn't have a tailor on hand to do some basic adjustments.

This was a show, pure and simple. You can speculate on the reasons for the show, but this is my best guess: Trump's major goal right now is to utterly delegitimize the press; they're his biggest enemy. If the Russian report hadn't been compiled by complete morons, it could have done real damage. As it was, it fell apart due to the ridiculous claims about pissing prostitutes. The next attempt on him probably won't be so utterly stupid, and the best way to neutralize the damage in advance is to send the press into such paroxysms of fury that they keep the "outrage" dial constantly turned to 11. If they keep screaming long enough, eventually the public starts to tune them out entirely, and any real damaging information gets lost in a flood of anti-Trump hyperbole. We saw this during the primary, where the anti-Trump forces peaked a month or two before the really critical primaries. They called him a racist, a rapist, a tax-dodger, Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot all in the span of a single week, and there was nothing left to call him.

So Trump sends out a guy in an ill-fitting suit to rant and rave at the press for five minutes, and get them nice and pissed off. They all dutifully run home and write another dozen stories about how "Trump is a threat to our democracy!" and "Trump is a fascist!" because a guy on a podium was mean to them. But every time they scream, their next scream is just a little more likely to be ignored. When the next scandal hits that actually has the potential to damage Trump, it will be lost in the public's mind amidst 10,000 molehill stories about oval office busts and what color the grass was on inauguration day.

There are other nice effects, too. Trump is going to have to make compromises in the coming weeks, compromises that are going to upset some of his voters. (I personally expect clemency for the DACA immigrants, as much as I hate to say it.) Having the press secretary look like a pissed-off high school gym teacher who wants nothing more than to rip the arms off a New York Times reporter and jam them down his throat is going to go a long way to keeping his base on his side.

EDIT: Here's Spicer on Lou Dobbs, 10 days ago. Note the carefully tailored (and no doubt very expensive) suit he's wearing.

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Do any of you guys have any information on Mike Pence? All I'm hearing from people I know and media etc.. is that he's some sort of monster who wants to 'undo all the rights that women have' 'worse than trump' blah blah....... any good sources on what he is like as a man, why he was a good pick for VP? Can any forum members in Indiana say what he's been like as governor?
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(01-22-2017 06:52 AM)Poker Wrote:  Do any of you guys have any information on Mike Pence? All I'm hearing from people I know and media etc.. is that he's some sort of monster who wants to 'undo all the rights that women have' 'worse than trump' blah blah....... any good sources on what he is like as a man, why he was a good pick for VP? Can any forum members in Indiana say what he's been like as governor?

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Mike Pence Is Also a Time Traveler
Donald Trump has stated that he would only want to be president as long as there was no one better suited for the job. Possessing, as he might, foreknowledge of the future, Donald Trump is, in a way, uniquely qualified. But there might be someone more capable of being Commander-in-Chief during the upcoming tribulations.

Mike Pence may come from a future further ahead than where Trump’s machine was able to take him and is also in our timeline to prevent the same cataclysm Trump seeks to prevent. Pence likely was able to notice the temporal shifts caused by Trump’s actions and pegged him as a time-traveler. Pence disclosed his identity to Trump, and they decided to work together to prevent the upcoming nuclear disasters.

Pence is, the theorists present, from a future where time travel has advanced to the point that there can be multiple copies of him existing in our timeline at the same time. After joining with Trump, he has worked to avoid temporal conflict, as well as secure his own place as president after Trump hands off the torch.

Evidence
Part of the evidence for Trump and Pence having manipulated our timeline is the relative importance of celebrity deaths. The death of Muhammad Ali was relatively obscure, hidden under headlines about the impending apocalypse, in Pence/Trump’s original timeline. However, since they have worked to avoid that future, these minor events are some of the more important things going on.

The idea is supported by the general downward trend of violence globally, which notably accelerated shortly after 1985, when John G. Trump died, passing on Tesla’s research to his nephew Donald.
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Quote:Mike Pence? All I'm hearing from people I know and media etc.. is that he's some sort of monster who wants to 'undo all the rights that women have' 'worse than trump' blah blah.......

Yes, and he want to send the gays to camps etc...

He's a Christian and that obviously scares them.

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