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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(Yesterday 04:10 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  It means nothing. It's called "pretend like you've done nothing wrong!".

Spot on.

His legal team is going to go with the "We did nothing wrong" defense. They are going to pretend that he was just having locker room banter more or less and just doing his job objectively as if his personal statements had nothing to do with the job.

Problem with that is the same with other similar conflicts of interests creating a "hostile environment" at work or causing such situations.

Let's play devil's advocate for a bit:

Pretend you are a woman for a minute. You sue your employer and your manager for sexual harassment because of your manager's unwanted advances. Your lawyer finds out the manager is a PUA and has a video blog showing people how to swoop ladies on YouTube.

Now do you think for a minute that the manager can block these videos or public records from court in discovery? No. Can the manager still deny that those videos are just his outside work activities and maintain that he is and was always professional and followed company policy and guidelines while on duty? Yes, he can still do that. Is that a weak argument? Potentially to absolutely. Depends upon other factors but that is the gist of it.

Peter can insist that he has never gotten in trouble at the FBI before, he can insist that the work/investigations he produced was done correctly and to the letter of the law, he can insist that his relationship with Lisa was within company policy although he will likely apologize to his wife publicly for the affair or avoid discussing that, and he can just blandly reiterate that his personal feelings on the president did not affect his work.

Reminder: His text messages with Lisa ARE government property because they were sent on government owned phones.

He clearly does not want to plead guilty because he likely knows what a Supermax Prison is like, nor does he possibly like the idea of a lesser security camp for snitches either (he still needs to leverage himself into a deal for that).

There is only one caveat to all of this. He could drop vague insinuations on others to give off the impression that he has more information but only if he can get a deal out of it. How much he will divulge is anyone's guess on that. I find it unlikely he would give out serious shit for free in Congress. If he did, that is clearly crazy I would think ,because then the DOJ team for Huber would not need much if anything from him and can go chase others down using his testimony he gave in Congress for the clues. Thus putting him in serious jail time plus dragging others down.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is clearly a serious mental illness. We cannot underestimate how insane any of these people will be when they provide testimony. This could have us reeling in disgust and them walking away smug faced and defiant. The sitting Democrats might disgust us even more by petting him up as a victim and trashing Trump in the same breath.

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RE: The Donald Trump thread
As an aside. If Peter is going to make Huber and others "Work for it" to convict him and play the denial defense, if Lisa has squealed, he is still very much so open to conspiracy charges and whatever else she has told Huber and others.

I do not know enough about federal conspiracy charges to know if 371 (general conspiracy) or a section 286 kind applies here. I think it matters because 286 has an overt act requirement. Also I think one has lesser punishment than the other, like 5 years in prison maximum. Either way that is outside my wheelhouse. If any lawyers are lurking let us know.

If we thought putting mafia and druglords in prison was tough, this might end up being tougher than those. Huber has a very hard task here.

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(06-16-2018 07:12 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Don Junior is dating Kimberly Guilfoyle from Fox News.

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His head is still in the beta position. The same body language he had with his ex wife.
He has not learned anything.

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Give him time fellas. I dated a couple of fat women after my divorce from the fat exwife. The next 3 after that were not all that much better but at least they were not obese. After that I was on point and on top of my game.

Getting back on the horse can take a while.

Even if he marries her, it isn't the end of the world. Even for him. Some of us men are a bit hard headed or stubborn. Some of us need a few women to fuck us up to figure out what the crux of the problem truly is.

If the redpill was easy, it wouldn't be red nor exist. You could make the same case on game as well.

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(Yesterday 06:07 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  Don Junior is dating Kimberly Guilfoyle from Fox News.

Body language aside, Kimberly Guilfoyle is 49. He's 40. Dude just became single and that's his pick... Sad. Easily fixed with some vitamin T [Testosterone].
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(Yesterday 05:11 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  As an aside. If Peter is going to make Huber and others "Work for it" to convict him and play the denial defense, if Lisa has squealed, he is still very much so open to conspiracy charges and whatever else she has told Huber and others.

I do not know enough about federal conspiracy charges to know if 371 (general conspiracy) or a section 286 kind applies here. I think it matters because 286 has an overt act requirement. Also I think one has lesser punishment than the other, like 5 years in prison maximum. Either way that is outside my wheelhouse. If any lawyers are lurking let us know.

If we thought putting mafia and druglords in prison was tough, this might end up being tougher than those. Huber has a very hard task here.

As an aside, it's probably one of the most astute and pertinent points I've ever heard anyone raise on the subject.

Quote:If we thought putting mafia and druglords in prison was tough, this might end up being tougher than those.

Read it twice if you didn't get it the first time.

It's obvious that those with power don't get to be held to the same rules and laws that us lower plebs do. They have influence, maybe blackmail material. Whatever. It's called power. And it is this power that they have that helps them elude justice. That's one thing.

But what happens when one of these fuckers is caught out bang to rights? Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200! What are the options?

There are only a few.

You either pretend it didn't happen and they get a pass. Or they get some kind of rap on the knuckles. Suspended sentences. Maybe even home imprisonment and curfews (good luck with that one).

I can see people getting off absolutely Scott Free, not because everyone (including their peers) didn't find their crimes heinous enough to warrant genuine imprisonment, but because the practicalities of actually banging them up are just insurmountable at this point. It's like there isn't an alternative.

Look how much Police Officers and politicians get off with jail time. They have to be pretty low hanging fruit or would have needed to piss off the wrong person for them to be actually banged up. I bet they don't go in to Gen Pop. So they have to slum it with the peados and the pervs. I don't know. I can't imagine what other options there are, apart from just letting them off.

It really is a logistical nightmare.

Now go to the other extreme and think what it would take to bang someone like Hitlery up. Not going to happen is it. At the very least she gets her own cell! :-)

Bitch would probably get her own wing. But this is what she really needs, and the rest of her ilk too:

These people need their own prison. We can call it Swamp Prison if you like. This will be different to an open prison and a cushy number because these people's crimes are of such a magnitude that real punishment needs to be seen to be taking place. Besides, in an open prison, Hitlery would be off in that Cessna piloted by Barry Seal so quickly that the wheels wouldn't touch the ground on the makeshift landing strip.

We all know this isn't going to happen either. But it needs to happen. Max security prisons for criminals like Crooked Hillary and her contemporaries.

There would need to be compromises. Sure, we are not unreasonable men. Why not give them the sauna and the Jacuzzi and the tennis courts? Hell, let's give them life lessons in not fucking people over too. Soviet style.

"So Bill, when you murdered all those young interns who blew you behind Hillary's back, just so the news would never go public, do you think that was a 'good' thing to do, or a 'bad' thing? Don't answer straight away, take you time. There is a right answer and a wrong answer, comrade!"

They say that Bernie Madoff has cornered the illicit hot chocolate market where he's doing chokey. Do these people never change? No. It's in their cold reptilian blood.

No one in power has ever been to prison. Maybe the odd one thrown to the wolves to encourage the others, possibly. But no one with real power.

It's just not possible anyway. You can't put them in Gen Pop, you can't put them with the pervs and molesters, you can't let them slack off in an insecure open prison. You'd need to build a new wing to facilitate them.

So just build a new prison. Swamp Prison. Build it in the middle of the Everglades with other reptiles roaming around the perimeter guarding the ones inside.

It would be a vote winner.

It will never happen.

But yeah, if you thought housing El Chapo was a problem, see how that scales up to a Mueller or a Clinton.

Justice needs an overhaul. Or nature will correct things in her usual (and sometimes unusual) cruel manner.

"Because you'd be in jail!" was a great meme. But it will never be a great reality. The wall will get built first before that ever happens.

Too many buried bodies. Too many people who know where the bodies are buried. Too many people who know the people who know where the bodies are buried.

But we can dream!

Build the Swamp Prison now.


"Lock her up!"

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(Yesterday 06:07 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(06-16-2018 07:12 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Don Junior is dating Kimberly Guilfoyle from Fox News.

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His head is still in the beta position. The same body language he had with his ex wife.
He has not learned anything.

Facepalm3

He's got the rictus grin of someone that has drunk Whiskey for 20 years straight.

She looks like the cat that got the cream!

Divorce rape in less than 8!
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So Gowdy and gang sent Speaker Ryan to formally threaten the DOJ (Sessions and Rosenstein) and the FBI (Wray), in a meeting, over those documents. He gave a threat to start a floor proceeding to impeach or contempt, if the documents are not given up. Even said this week.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...warns.html

That's a pretty intimidating saber rattle if I say so myself.

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Let's see if these cowpokes are all rattle and no bite.

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RE: The Donald Trump thread
(Yesterday 06:36 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  
(Yesterday 06:07 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(06-16-2018 07:12 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Don Junior is dating Kimberly Guilfoyle from Fox News.

[Image: Df2N4jFUYAAwkSN.jpg]


His head is still in the beta position. The same body language he had with his ex wife.
He has not learned anything.

Facepalm3

He's got the rictus grin of someone that has drunk Whiskey for 20 years straight.

She looks like the cat that got the cream!

Divorce rape in less than 8!

I thought that he and his brother were supposed to read this thread (only 1/2 kidding).

Well, hopefully we still have Tiffany and/or Barron to continue the Trump dynasty.
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(Yesterday 07:16 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Let's see if these cowpokes are all rattle and no bite.

Or as the Schumer says - all cattle and no hat
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Who here believes that the IG report was just an appetizer? The main course is coming down the pike?

Get your passport ready!
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(Yesterday 02:11 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  I don't understand why nobody is thinking any deeper into Don Jrs choice of a woman. This is a long term chess play. Young girls are for fucking and building families. He doesn't need another family and having a 30 year old bimbo isn't going to help him politically.

Say hello to your future and first Puerto Rican First Lady, Kimberly Guilfoyle.

I'm gonna have to go "nah" on that. I have an alternative explanation. I'm not claiming this alternative theory makes sense, mind you, just that it makes more sense than the 4000-D triple reverse bankshot hypothesis above.

To wit:
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