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Unfortunately there is no career path in agriculture and the cost of living these days means that unless you're willing to piss about hitching multi-ton trailers to mult-ton tractors until your back gives out and you spend the rest of your days drunk or sucking down opiates then it's simply not a smart choice in life. At best you find yourself having to move back into non-physical work while competing with 18 year olds for the same jobs.

I say this as someone who sympathises entirely with farmers. Physical labor has a time cost that farm wages no longer account for. "Hard working ethics" won't be there to pick up the pieces when your body craps out half way to the finish line. Time was, there was a moral jobs market that gave preference for cushy jobs to old timers who'd blown out knees or backs doing the hard yards while they were young. These days all those jobs go to women or the lowest bidder/most spineless kid.

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12-13-2019 01:31 AM
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If being a farm hand afforded a middle class lifestyle, Whites would do more of it. Wages do not rise because of bills that allow foreign labor.

This would mean Americans would need to pay more for food. Considering how cheap food is already, it's a small price to pay.

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Watching the impeachment hoax votes being counted is a pretty revealing exercise. It's naked demographic warfare. A microcosm of the nation and the absolute joke of a system we live under.

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Vincent James calls out Jared Kushner for pushing through hate speech legislation and linking to the ADL. He berates Trump for having liberal Jared meddling in the White House. He also thinks that Cerno is a hot-take merchant (on zio issues) but he still likes him.. Probably true.


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(12-14-2019 03:27 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  Watching the impeachment hoax votes being counted is a pretty revealing exercise. It's naked demographic warfare. A microcosm of the nation and the absolute joke of a system we live under.

Molyneux always says something like this:

In a multicultural democracy voting is a racial headcount.
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He’s paraphrasing Lee Kuan Yew.

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Fake news fluncky can't handle the truth.

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Here is another Hoax, brought to you by Karol Sanchez.

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I'm sitting here watching the closing impeachment remarks. Absolutely disgusts me to the core to see these fruitloops taking this patriotic moral high ground touting the importance and sacred nature of our constitution when you know they take such pleasure shitting all over the 2nd amendment and would just rather burn the thing to replace it with the commie manifesto. The fuck out here you cocksuckers.

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All the major networks are showing the impeachment proceedings or whatever (shows how much I know and keep up with it) live on top of regular programming. Is this a desperate to make people care?
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(12-18-2019 04:37 PM)kamoz Wrote:  All the major networks are showing the impeachment proceedings or whatever (shows how much I know and keep up with it) live on top of regular programming. Is this a desperate to make people care?

I think it was Scott Adams on twitter that said something like, the result of this process will be to nullify the meaning of 'impeachment'. Its like being called a racist or a Nazi. The only people who care about it are democrats.

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It's bombastic, they always cover garbage with the veneer of importance.

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(12-14-2019 02:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:  If being a farm hand afforded a middle class lifestyle, Whites would do more of it. Wages do not rise because of bills that allow foreign labor.

This would mean Americans would need to pay more for food. Considering how cheap food is already, it's a small price to pay.

Salaries would increase for everyone, so rising food prices wouldn't be that big of a deal. People could also have their own gardens, like most Americans before 1964.
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(12-18-2019 10:25 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(12-14-2019 02:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:  If being a farm hand afforded a middle class lifestyle, Whites would do more of it. Wages do not rise because of bills that allow foreign labor.

This would mean Americans would need to pay more for food. Considering how cheap food is already, it's a small price to pay.

Salaries would increase for everyone, so rising food prices wouldn't be that big of a deal. People could also have their own gardens, like most Americans before 1964.

This is 100% true. Americans won't do jobs Mexicans/Hondurans/Guatemalans do because those jobs no longer provide the living wage they used to. Guarantee Americans would pick fruit if it paid true market wage with a 40hr week, overtime, and benefits. Yes, prices would increase at the market, but remember a rising tide lifts all boats.

Use that logic on the next lib to argue for open borders. You think the average Mexican benefits from Big Corporate greed? They get used up by 35, get paid $3.20/hr if they're lucky, live in company tenements off the grid, and when they're injured, hurt, or otherwise incapacitated after years of hard work, they get thrown back home to some Hidalgo shithole in Mexico. Benefits. No. One.

Also, remember that for the large part of the 20th Century, 1 in 9 Americans worked in an industry that was filled by largely unskilled, repetitive-motion work in fraught, dangerous condition exposed to far more workplace danger (falling objects, chemical vapors, crush and fall, electrocution, etc) than anything the most back-breaking construction day laborer or agricultural worker is ever exposed to - automobile manufacturing. They worked their asses off, were paid well for it, and could not only afford the product they were building, but could afford to give their children the choice to do something less difficult in their lives.

You can thank NAFTA and non-reciprocal tariffs for the death of the American motorcar industry.

P.S. God help us if we ever need to mobilize the nation for a true existential threat to our shores from another nation or beyond. Who do you think built all this B-24s, tank destroyers, and munitions?
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Q seems to be suggesting the Supreme Court will throw out the impeachment case before it goes to trial at all.

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(12-19-2019 12:32 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  Q seems to be suggesting the Supreme Court will throw out the impeachment case before it goes to trial at all.

Wait....Q is still around?
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(12-18-2019 11:45 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  Also, remember that for the large part of the 20th Century, 1 in 9 Americans worked in an industry that was filled by largely unskilled, repetitive-motion work in fraught, dangerous condition exposed to far more workplace danger (falling objects, chemical vapors, crush and fall, electrocution, etc) than anything the most back-breaking construction day laborer or agricultural worker is ever exposed to - automobile manufacturing.

I don't agree with this in the slightest. You ever worked on a farm man? Farming, forestry and fishing are some of the deadliest jobs in the states. When you work on a farm or ranch you wake up every day and ask yourself how can get killed or maimed that day. There's 101 ways if not more. If it's one of the most dangerous jobs now, it sure as hell was back in the day to if not more. People could afford the product they were building partly because the currency still had value. But that's another story.


(12-18-2019 11:45 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  This is 100% true. Americans won't do jobs Mexicans/Hondurans/Guatemalans do because those jobs no longer provide the living wage they used to. Guarantee Americans would pick fruit if it paid market wage with a 40hr week, overtime, and benefits.

40 hour work week working on a farm??? Hahahahaha. Nothing will ever get done and you'll have more problems than a Boeing MAX. And when you got problems you lose time. And time is money. In agriculture you're always flirting with bankruptcy. When you work on a farm or ranch everyday is Monday. If there were 8 days you would work 8 days to try and beat the weather and time if you could.

It's 100% false. Americans won't do it because it's miserable dangerous work with brutal hours. Plain and simple. And Americans are massively spoiled. I got plenty of personal stories to say that with confidence. People be acting like these immigrants are getting exploited at like 2 dollars an hour or something by evil farmers. These workers get paid good money. The same money an American would be making if they chose to do the work. It's good work for young single men. The starting wages for a lot of farm and ranch workers is the same as what you would find in the city for entry level jobs. But the kicker in farm work is it's kind of like working on a ship. A lot of the perks you get like housing, food (some or all of you're lucky), no utilities to pay offset the low wages and it's a good way to stack cash. And being on a farm everywhere you turn is gym equipment and you get paid to work out all day. Hell even hand harvesters who work on piece rate can make like 150-200usd a day if you got hustle. Good money for a fit young American man. But God forbid a young man has to wake up early and work sun up to sun down in miserable dirty, stanky work that those dirty messicans do. Even more traumatic if you're remote and theres no Wi-Fi. Ah! There's money to be made in ag but the only thing stopping Americans is themselves and their laziness and self righteousness thinking they deserve better simply because they exist.

I want tight borders as much as the next guy. But like I mentioned about the H2A workers. Next time you pass a farm and see Mexicans out there, or drink a glass of milk that was milked out by young Jose from Oaxaca, those were jobs that by law had to be offered to domestic workers. Americans. But alas where are they? Ill tell you where they are. They're working behind a counter at 24Hour fitness staring at their phones for about the same pay or OD'd in an alley somewhere.

If Americans wanna see food prices soar make it more difficult than it already is for farmers and ranchers to keep their legacies afloat. For example overtime got mentioned above. Farms are exempt from overtime pay. But in California, of course, passed an agriculture worker overtime law, and thats why some produce like lettuce produced in California is still more expensive in California than it is on the east coast even after being trucked all the way across country. Probably among a host of other reasons too to be fair.

Most people dont realize and will never appreciate the costs of running a farm operation. It's not their fault if they've never been exposed to it. But You have to be a helluva penny pinching son of a bitch to keep your farm afloat. The operating expenses on farms are so astronomical most peoples heads would explode when they saw numbers. Fuel, insurance, labor, feed, taxes, utilities, transportation, water, fertilizers, machinery, the machinery maintenance, the list goes on and on on. All for low crop and livestock prices. Most farm families are perpetually in debt and run on operating loans year after year with hopes just to break even first and foremost and whatever is left is left. Theres a reason farmers and ranchers have the highest suicide rate of any occupation.

If any young man wants to work in ag and needs a point in the right direction, send me a pm. Instead of illegals or H2A workers "taking our jobs", take them before they do! There is career progression. Start off as hired hand, move to manager, crew boss or foreman, and then it you're crazy enough befriend a banker. buy your own land and start your own operation. And if you get to that point just make sure you're emotionally stable. If you aint; stay away from guns. Laugh

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This is truly the end of an era. There is something grim and symbolic about the sheer lack of pretense that the bloodthirsty liberals all over the world displayed with this impeachment. They will not stop at anything.

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It’s waking a lot of people up.

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Always better to know where you stand. You Yanks are officially playing for keeps now. No more warmups and do-overs.

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What we have is a group of white supremacists (Jews) working tirelessly to have a white goyim president removed. It's akin to a small group of black supremacists working tirelessly to have Obama removed from office. It seems ridiculous. But if one reads what the greatest minds in Western civilization have said about jews, it's really just par for the course.

The irony is that elite Jews are accusing Trump of promoting white supremacy. And yet, it's the elite Jew that is obsessed with white supremacy...his supremacy. It's another case of their psychological projection...accusing others of the crimes they commit. As the old saying goes, "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

Trump has made countless concessions to them. And yet, it's not enough. What the elite Jew despises is the rogue element on Trump's character. The trait that refuses to lick the toenails clean. The trait that refuses to be humiliated, cucked, spit on, etc. So they will stop at nothing to satisfy their debased egos - even making a mockery of our legal system.

Perhaps more troubling is the unique Jewish skill of foisting the blame onto a useful idiot. So if people ever rise up against this impeachment debacle, you can be sure that they will foist the blame onto the wrong target.

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