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Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women - article also explains MGTOWs & Game-denial
Heartiste recently had an excellent article that in my opinion eloquently explains the reason for the behavior of not only most Blue Pill men, Betas, White Kinghts, but it sheds some good insights into MGTOWs, MRAs, Game-deniers, PUA-haters as well as the minority of women on the low end of the sexual market.

I will post the text in full and then add my comments.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/03/...ize-women/

Quote:Why do so many betas harbor gauzy delusions about female sexual nature? Why are monogamously inclined traditionalists, manginas and white knighters so quick to sanctify women and paint their misbehavior in rose-colored hues while simultaneously offering unconditional support and shitlapping amen choruses for women when they accuse men of committing a litany of hackneyed misdeeds?

I’m here to provide what I believe is the most parsimonious answer to this riddle:

Beta males are rarely in a position to witness the worst of women.


Put yourself in the typical beta male’s shoes. He spends a goodly chunk of his horniest years — teens to mid 20s — when holes in watermelons look like acceptable vagina substitutes, pining for ethereal hot chicks who don’t pay him a lick of attention as they swoop by him on a cloud of incandescent purity. He sees them only from afar, where his imagination is free to feverishly fill in the gaps with only the most pleasant assumptions about his dreamgirls. When the rare communication does occur, she is as nice and kind as a saint to him. He is too smitten to recognize the hint of pity and condescension laced in her polite chat.

Later, usually college, he fumbles his way through awkward social interactions with plainer janes, the great majority of which end up with him being used for emotional sponging and ball-twisting, torturous friendships. All these girls are exceedingly, superficially kind to him because, after all, why look a gift herb in the mouth? A girl loves beta male attention, as long as it’s platonic, on her terms, extractive, and focused on feeding her ego. Naturally, these girl-friends never talk about their sex lives with the beta, never reveal what really goes on behind closed doors, and never invite the beta to join them on any adventures that really matter to him. Contrary to media popularization, betas rarely hear “This one time, at band camp…” from girls in their social circles. What they often hear instead are requests for help with term papers.

Then, due more to a combination of luck and (ovulation cycle) timing rather than bold effort or charm, the inoffensive beta male might find himself in a fledgling relationship with some semi-cute shut-in nearly as awkward as he and already past her beauty prime. She really likes him and treats him well… more sincerely than the cuter girls who made a sport of cockteasing him at any rate… but like ‘Rat’ Ratner from ‘Fast Times’, he labors for months and months waiting patiently for her to put out. For reasons beyond the beta’s ken, she is an extremely modest girl. He interprets her chasteness as evidence of women’s all-round goodness and saintliness, but of course he is sorta pissed off that she won’t satisfy him without months of “getting to know each other” warming up. When he finally does bust that cherry, after painful years wandering the celibate desert, it’s all he can do to stop himself mentally affixing a halo atop his girlfriend’s head, and pronouncing all women the undistilled essence of goodness.

A few pitiable betas, like those with bitch tits, horizontally stretched navels, and receding chins who wear ‘this is what a feminist looks like’ t-shirts, get trapped in sporadically sexual relationships with manjawed femcunts at grad school, mostly because long-winded bull sessions among their kind occasionally spin up enough libidinous energy to resolve in PBR-fueled late night groping, which is promptly regretted and/or rationalized by one or both parties the next morning, usually the girl.

Eventually, the beta male gets married, and his lack of experience — one to three lifetime “partners” (and I use the term loosely) is the norm — has cultivated in him a strong inability to read women’s signals, which sometimes leads him into blissful ignorance where infidelities can linger for years unnoticed, and “Surprise! I have a divorce paper!” gambits accost him like hammer blows to the head. Mostly, though, he floats through his marriage thinking the best of his wife, and worst of himself should feelings turn sour or the sex dry up. Because this is just what men are supposed to do when a woman is less than happy: take the blame. Women are the weaker sex, after all.

So you see, in the final analysis, it is very likely, by dint of the beta male’s ignorance, inexperience and habituated veneration of women and reflexive indulgence of women’s motives, that his view of women is severely constricted, child-like in its naivete. The beta male is not privy to what Tyler Durden famously called the secret society of women. He was never invited, and he was never apprised of the secret society’s goings-on by any woman in his life. He lives in a pinched world with only a peephole to the wonders beyond, given him not by insight but by stumbling into depravity or by the good grace of a sympathetic alpha male. As far as he knows, women don’t have much sex, and they are very nice and polite most of the time.

The beta male pedestalizes women because one, that’s all women have deigned to show him of their sexual inner world, and two, he cannot bear the contrary thought, affirming and cementing as it does his lackluster place on the sexual totem pole. (He is mired down in the sticky pubes, his vision obscured, while alphas dance joyously at the tip of the glans.)

As for the women, those few who have not experienced the thrill of the alpha male often are nearly as chaste as the beta imagines, because they have never been tempted. All they know are a parade of beta males, whom they lash out at occasionally for unwittingly stifling their truest desires, but who, for the most part, they treat in a nontoxic manner that buttresses heavenly notions about their secretive natures. A woman is ever aware of the precariousness of her reputation, and this goes double in rural outposts of heavy religiosity.

And so the beta male has his crimped worldview confirmed by the asexual, undersexual women in his life. But should he ever step outside his empillowed existence… take that daring step into the gritty, grimy world where the female id roams free across fruited plains of phalluses… screw up the courage of heart to face head-on the previously unimaginable… he will find that a bigger universe has existed all along, enveloping the bubble of his life, surging with unleashed energies just out of his reach like uterine aurorae, and if his soul isn’t killed dead right then from shock, he’ll cross the boundary into this new world — he won’t really have a choice — and never look back.

Nor ever again blindly assume the purest of women’s motivations. The stronger among them do with this newfound knowledge the following: acknowledge, accept, incorporate, delimit. He rules his knowledge, but he does not let it rule him.

Such boundary crossing is rare. The beta and alpha male worlds are almost as separate and distinct now as they have been since the dawn of anonymous urban living. Though that is changing.

If betas knew what alphas experience, it would blow their minds. Completely, utterly. Out from under the judgmental Eye of Proper Society, equipped with the requisite beauty to pay the price of admission, the wild female libido is insatiable, crass, debased. It is willing to surrender to the most vile sexual plunderings, screaming in ecstatic pleasure at every enthusiastically welcome violation. Women of the sweetest daytime dispositions and most innocent countenances — smartly coifed women in demure business suits who expound drily on cost-revenue projections and wait tidily in lines for healthy lunch alternatives — will unleash vaginal hell in the arms of alpha lovers, squirting glorious love over dominant men who swap them like baseball cards, presenting like beasts in heat for throbbing units in dank dive bar restrooms, casually spreading as far as they can go in locked office rooms for illicit lovers, giggling in breathy whispers in their lovers’ ear about the clear and present danger of getting caught, deliberately effusing a fake sorrow for the cheated-on boyfriend back home unawares, bemusing wistfully about a history of letting alpha lovers snort coke off her ass while claiming another headache to evade hubby’s entreaties.

Beta males never see this world. To them, it doesn’t exist. And that’s exactly how women want it.


I think that this assessment of the Blue Pill Beta male is correct.

Now when seeing all those White Knights, Male Feminists (real ones - not celebs who drown in pussy, but claim to be feminists) & Betas - we really have to put ourselves in their shoes. The have not experienced this immense raw female desire and most of the Betas out there are getting a constant dose of Blue Pill brainwashing with little to no experience to the contrary.

And here is what is interesting in terms of Red Pill / Game and the types of men:

A) THOSE THAT ACCEPT GAME AND RED PILL FAST AND STRONG:
They have had some experiences, some passionate women falling in love with them, some even cheating on their boyfriends with them, but they are somehow lacking the full picture (my personal case). Those guys usually have little trouble seeing the Red Pill and Game for the absolute truth - it effectively clicks from day one. This is the mindset and skills they have been unconsciously looking for that enables them to understand the real feminine mystique.

B) THOSE THAT ACCEPT IT DESPITE THE LACK OF EXPERIENCES
Those men may have had little of those experiences, but are either determined or positive enough to make the changes. It may take some time, but they ultimately accept Game and the Red Pill. In a way they say: "I will do it or die trying." And of course they manage, since the reality of the nature is that if you are not obese and have a modicum of Game, then you will date and fuck much hotter girls than before. Some may even reach the pinnacle of Game mastery and become full Alphas who bang hundreds on multiple continents.

C) THOSE THAT ACCEPT THE RED PILL, BUT REFUSE GAME
Now here is where the MGTOWs, MRAs, PUA-Hate crowd is mostly located (with rare exceptions of course - some may be idealistic MRAs, others may be TESLA-like geniuses - but let's face it - very few are).
Keep in mind Heartiste's examples of the sexual experiences of those men. They have now with the help of the Manosphere found out about female nature. But you see - they have mostly found out about the negative aspects of it. They have read about the passion a woman may have felt for the Alpha male, BUT THEY HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THE POSITIVE ASPECTS OF WOMEN. The Red Pill Beta is in a tight spot. He may not fall prey to marriage, but he will never experience the fun, happiness, mirth, laughter, lightness, girliness, private sluttiness, intense love and passion of what it means to be with a hot girl who is so hard into you that she will drop anything, dress and come over to you for a 03:15 AM booty call (all despite having to got to work in the morning and you having woken her up at 03:00).

Since those guys have barely scratched on the experience spectrum in that regard they only see the negative sides of female Red Pill awareness - hypergamy, divorce rape, mood swings, lack of passion etc. Without developed Game they are at the mercy of those forces. Also without the positive experiences with women their only option seems to be the one of not playing the game at all, since they seemingly cannot win without legal changes (MRAs and MGTOWs united on that front).

Of course the confident Red Pill Alpha knows that he can win by picking the right woman that is completely enamored with him - and also desires him deeply. He may even enter into a marriage fully aware that it is more likely that he blows it up by too much side pussy than she will.

D) BLUE PILL CHODE:
He either has never found out about the Red Pill / Game or he refused it on the spot, because all his life experiences as well as the social indoctrination are completely opposed to that perception. He brushes off those women the PUAs talk about and show on infield videos as low-level sluts. "Game only works on low value women."

E) SEMI BLUE PILL / NOT FULLY RED PILL AWARE ALPHA:
To make the list complete I would like to mention those. These men have no trouble getting and fucking girls. They have no problem with a lack of girls falling in love with them. They only encounter difficulties when they enter into marriages and LTRs that they want to keep. A recent example is Arnold Schwarzenegger who said that he considers his marriage therapy with his ex-wife the biggest mistake in his life. Alphas like Arnie need Game & full Red Pill awareness too, but mostly for LTR-Game and how to convince your wife to stay with you after the world found out, that you sired a little Arnie with your maid. Many of those men have natural Game, but you need more of it sailing smoothly banging chicks on the side AND having a happy family at home.
http://www.etonline.com/news/166787_arno...ever_made/

This comic by Red Pill Comics clearly explains the above mentioned mindset of most women and most men today:

[Image: cartoon21.jpg]

http://redpillcomics.blogspot.com/

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Now in closing I would only like to mention briefly women. Most women are of course unconsciously Red Pill by default and also the majority had at least experienced the Alpha male. Even the 19 year old fattie managed to nab a drunk Alpha frat boy who gave her a few trysts before falling asleep in her blubber.

However Heartiste makes a good point about the 30-40% of women who probably never experienced Alpha dick in their youth. Some of them were ugly, some socially awkward, some uptight. In the end they date and marry Betas and live an undersexed life until they don't (cheating in marriage, Swinger clubs past the Wall, divorce etc.).

BUT what happens to the highly intelligent ugly / fat women who then become feminists, politicians, high level administrators & managers? You guessed it - whether married or unmarried - those female equivalents of PUA-Haters are staffing the new government politburos creating YesMeansYes laws, even worse family laws, anti-prostitution laws, are stopping Fat Shaming at Reddit etc.

Those women have not experienced the positive side of the male experience and the raw passion & fun an Alpha male can give her.

Like the Blue Pill Beta - they are naive and stunted in their development only seeing the negative sides in men - in their case even worse since their perception of men is not even founded in truth, but in the crazy doctrine of feminism.


Long post, but too good to pass it up.
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RE: Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women - article also explains MGTOWs & Game-denial
Great post Zel, and a good throwback to a great post by Heartiest. I know how close I would've been to being a blue-pill virgin for life had I not fallen ass-backwards into a relationship with a girl where I accidentally emulated an alpha attitude when I was 15. The lessons I learned in that relationship, and with being raised by women my entire life allowed me to readily accept the "Red Pill", as it mostly confirmed a lot of thoughts I had had in my head.

I think the logic this article espouses is extremely unheard in the manosphere. Most guys don't see the "OTHER" side of women. What's ironic is that they see it in the porn they watch constantly, but they're told that it's 100% fake and has no relationship to life whatsoever. It's understated how many guys are friends with a) other herbs and b) girls that constantly reinforce their ideas of how women are. My group of friends was filled with athletes and whatnot, and even though I didn't come out of high school with a 25+ notch count, my personal experiences and the stories that were told in our circle gave me enough of a "Red Pill" basis that nothing I heard around here was ever particularly shocking.

I've seen the texts that "locked down" girls have sent to my buds. I've been that guy laughing at some guys sincere text messages after I came in her face. I've died laughing at stories about how a three of my friends fucked a girl at a party on Saturday night and Sunday morning there were pictures on her Facebook of her holding flowers describing the elaborate way some guy asked her to prom. I've also had MY prom date get fucked by my friend at the after party when I left to go see another girl I had a thing for. I've seen enough to get it, and I'm thankful for that every single day.
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RE: Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women - article also explains MGTOWs & Game-denial
Great post Zel.

I think you left out one category:

F) Those that had the red pill forced down their throat by getting cheated on and/or getting divorced.
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(06-27-2015 09:56 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Great post Zel.

I think you left out one category:

F) Those that had the red pill forced down their throat by getting cheated on and/or getting divorced.

There are probably other categories one could think of.

But the truth is this - that F) guy has to fall into one of those slots I mentioned above.

What will he do next? Will he fall back to Blue Pill Land or will he delve more into the Red Pill, will he accept and learn Game? Those decisions will decide on how he comes out of it.
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RE: Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women - article also explains MGTOWs & Game-denial
(06-27-2015 10:29 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 09:56 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Great post Zel.

I think you left out one category:

F) Those that had the red pill forced down their throat by getting cheated on and/or getting divorced.

There are probably other categories one could think of.

But the truth is this - that F) guy has to fall into one of those slots I mentioned above.

What will he do next? Will he fall back to Blue Pill Land or will he delve more into the Red Pill, will he accept and learn Game? Those decisions will decide on how he comes out of it.

You're right, what he does next determines which slot he falls in and what the rest of his life will look like.

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RE: Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women - article also explains MGTOWs & Game-denial
This post was very helpful at explaining the resistance I get when discussing PUA outside of the Roosh Forum. I can easily template, "That guy is C. That other guy is D. So is that dork."

I'm a B-guy. Had many chances in my twenties to accept Red Pill knowledge, but it didn't take. Now it has.
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(06-27-2015 12:32 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  This post was very helpful at explaining the resistance I get when discussing PUA outside of the Roosh Forum. I can easily template, "That guy is C. That other guy is D. So is that dork."

I'm a B-guy. Had many chances in my twenties to accept Red Pill knowledge, but it didn't take. Now it has.

Heh - I was a a romantic, oneitis-prone, semi-shy Beta in my teens and early 20s. There were plenty of flashes of Alpha/Sigma and a lot of passion which is the reason why I attracted some girls quite strongly, but I became more Alpha-ish only over time.

Red Pill and Game I only found at age 37/38, so chances are that you have found it faster. I came upon the PUA TV show with Mystery a few years ago - and even at that format it made a lot of sense, but the overblown design of the show appeared ridiculous to me (on purpose I think).

I think that the biggest obstacle to me was not that I was not open to accept radically new viewpoints, but that I fell for the typical trap of the intellectual: You learn to look only to the mainstream path of knowledge and simply ignore the rest. (I compare it to learning to drive on rail tracks instead of taking to the sky and flying in all directions even faster.) Only when I allowed myself to assess alternative perceptions of reality, only then did I come upon a more satisfying explanation of economics, science, medicine and of female desire and attraction.

In any case - everyone has his own path - we are all unique - there is no superior way - just a different one.

The points made here help us find an understanding for all the men out there who keep White Knighting for women and refuse to accept Game. It's no surprise that David Futrelle is no good-looking charismatic guy - his experiences have colored his perception so much, that he is unable to understand the more feral female nature as he never experienced it. And as I mentioned above - the better part of the feminine nature is fun, silly, emotional, caring, passionate and girly - that is why Players keep on plowing after some 15 years and hundreds of women. Women are fun if you see them for what they are. Just as we are fun to them when we become more Alpha/Sigma - our natural state within each of us.
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